Two-Pot Retirement System Explained by Old Mutual Corporate

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
  • Watch this easy-to-follow animated video that explains how South Africa’s proposed two-pot system for retirement savings - and accessing them before retirement - could work.
    Learn more about Old Mutual Corporate and our retirement solutions for businesses here: www.oldmutual....
    Learn more about the proposed changes to retirement-fund regulations
    www.oldmutual.co.za/2pot
    #OldMutual #pensionfunds #retirement

Komentáře • 86

  • @masegorakoma9897
    @masegorakoma9897 Před měsícem +4

    So all money we’ve accumulated until the 30 August will be vested pot right. Then 10% of that money will go to my saving pot from 1 sept 2024 and then my retirement pot will start from balance of 0.00? Then as per my contribution every month 1/3 of it will go to saving pot and 2 /3 of it will go to retirement pot is that right ?😅

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      That is 100% correct, Masego!

  • @codymakwela3195
    @codymakwela3195 Před měsícem +3

    R30 000 - 40%tax =R18 000...and ask yourself whatu gon do with 18k in this wicked economy.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi there, Savings Pot withdrawals are seen as “income” by SARS. SARS will apply the marginal income tax rate, which is the tax rate payable based on your current earnings at the time of the withdrawal, to the amount that you withdraw. In addition to the tax that you will pay on your Two-Pot withdrawal, SARS also requires that you pay any additional outstanding money that you may owe to SARS as well.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Old Mutual will pay out the amount of the withdrawal less the tax payable on the withdrawal and less any outstanding money that is owed to SARS.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi there, Savings Pot withdrawals are seen as “income” by SARS. SARS will apply the marginal income tax rate, which is the tax rate payable based on your current earnings at the time of the withdrawal, to the amount that you withdraw. In addition to the tax that you will pay on your Two-Pot withdrawal, SARS also requires that you pay any additional outstanding money that you may owe to SARS as well.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Old Mutual will pay out the amount of the withdrawal less the tax payable on the withdrawal and less any outstanding money that is owed to SARS.

  • @Waz8
    @Waz8 Před měsícem +1

    Will I be able to transfer the savings pot into an annuity without it being taxed ie in the old system I could 3/3 to an annuity

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hello, that is correct. If you reach your retirement age and have your vested savings and retirement pots all still intact.
      You can opt to purchase your annuity with the entire portion. If the value is under the commute amount (combined) and want to take the full portion, this will be allowable at retirement age.

  • @lenganatysonmazwi-2388

    Why are we only able to withdraw from 23 September?

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 4 dny

      Hi there, we have switched over to the two-pot system as of the 1st of September. With phase 1 viewing of values via WhatsApp as well as update their details. Phase 2 (from 23 September 2024): Withdrawal claims on WhatsApp. allowing us to handle the 600,000 applications expected.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 4 dny

      Hello,
      We have switched over to the two-pot system as of the 1st of September.
      The implementation of the two-pot system will happen in phases to handle the expected 600,000 applications smoothly and securely:

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 4 dny

      Phase 1 (1-22 September 2024): Customers can view retirement values via WhatsApp (0860 933 33 3) as well as update their details to ensure that they match on our system.
      Phase 2 (from 23 September 2024): Customers can submit withdrawal claims on WhatsApp.
      Only Retirement Fund members can withdraw, not third parties.

  • @mhlonishwamadlala1730

    @old Mutual.. I was thinking of resigning from work on November and i haven't reached 55 years, will i be able to get full amount of what's due to me??

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 8 dny

      Hi there, Old rules will apply to your retirement savings accumulated as at 1 September. You will still have access to some of your accumulated retirement funds (which will be in your vested pot) when you leave - one third of your investment (as at 1 September) can be taken as cash. You can also access what is in your Savings Pot if you leave after September 2024.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 8 dny

      Hi Mhlonishwa, thank you for getting in touch with us.
      If you have a pension fund and you resign, you will be able to access all the money in your vested pot as well as what is in your Savings Pot (provided that you did not make any prior withdrawal from your Savings Pot)

  • @kjn2673
    @kjn2673 Před 8 dny

    @old mutual I'm a bit slow. Please tell me, let's say my 10% is r100 000 and I understand I can only access r30 000 of that, where does the remaining r70 000 go? Does it form part of the 10% that I can access going upwards, meaning it will remain as a balance in my savings pot?

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 7 dny

      Hi, The Two-Pot Retirement system is a proposed change to improve financial security and encourage saving for retirement. Your retirement contributions will be split into two parts: a 'savings pot,' which is one-third of your contributions and can be accessed before retirement if needed, and a 'retirement pot,' which is two-thirds of your contributions and will be preserved until you retire.

    • @kjn2673
      @kjn2673 Před 7 dny

      @@oldmutual I understand all that you've mentioned here. My question was about the breakdown of the monies and percentages I mentioned in my question.

    • @xolanimsipa7656
      @xolanimsipa7656 Před 6 dny

      Hi R70 000 will remain in your vested pot

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 5 dny

      @KJN2673 thank you for your response. The remaining funds will be moved into your vested pot. It will not remain as a balance in your savings pot. As from the 1st of September your future contributions will be split where one-third will go into your savings pot and two-thirds into your retirement pot. Your vested pot will be governed by the old retirement rules.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 5 dny

      @KJN2673 thank you for your response. The remaining funds will be moved into your vested pot. It will not remain as a balance in your savings pot. As from the 1st of September your future contributions will be split where one-third will go into your savings pot and two-thirds into your retirement pot. Your vested pot will be governed by the old retirement rules.

  • @lungisanizungu5900
    @lungisanizungu5900 Před měsícem

    So what is the minimum tax per withdrawal in this two port system?

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi, please note that the tax will be charged at marginal tax and will also depend on your tax profile with SARS. Unfortunately, we are unable to confirm the amount of tax SARS will charge you. You can however, send "Hi" to 0860 933 333 and use the Savings Pot calculator on Whatsapp 0860 933 333 to see the amount that could be available (seeding amount) as well as an estimate of the marginal tax applicable to your elected savings withdrawal.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi there, Savings Pot withdrawals are seen as “income” by SARS. SARS will apply the marginal income tax rate, which is the tax rate payable based on your current earnings at the time of the withdrawal, to the amount that you withdraw. In addition to the tax that you will pay on your Two-Pot withdrawal, SARS also requires that you pay any additional outstanding money that you may owe to SARS as well.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Old Mutual will pay out the amount of the withdrawal less the tax payable on the withdrawal and less any outstanding money that is owed to SARS.

  • @BotsheloRaditsabeng
    @BotsheloRaditsabeng Před 24 dny

    How do i apply for the pot and know if I qualify to withdraw the funds

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 23 dny +1

      Hi Botshelo, individuals participating in retirement funds will generally need to be members of an approved retirement savings vehicle (like a pension or provident fund). This also includes retirement annuities. Please use the Savings Pot calculator on Whatsapp 0860 933 333 to see the amount that could be available (seeding amount) as well as an estimate of the marginal tax applicable to your elected savings withdrawal

    • @user-my2vt5ib7i
      @user-my2vt5ib7i Před dnem

      Hi how do I apply two pot system cuz am struggling to get information

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 21 hodinou

      Hi, the Two-Pot Retirement system is a proposed change to improve financial security and encourage saving for retirement. Your retirement contributions will be split into two parts: a 'savings pot,' which is one-third of your contributions and can
      be accessed before retirement if needed, and a 'retirement pot,' which is two-thirds of your contributions and will be preserved until you retire.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 21 hodinou

      There will be a once off allocation to your Savings Pot of 10% of your existing fund value as of 31 August 2024 (capped at R30 000) in September 2024. You can only withdraw once in a tax year, i.e., between 1 March and 28 February each year. A minimum of R2 000 can be withdrawn; if you have less than R2 000 in the Savings Pot, you cannot withdraw.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 16 hodinami

      Hi, thank you for reaching out to us.
      Individuals participating in retirement funds will generally need to be members of an approved retirement savings vehicle (like a pension or provident fund). This also includes retirement annuities. Please use the Savings Pot calculator on Whatsapp 0860 933 333 to see the amount that could be available (seeding amount) as well as an estimate of the marginal tax applicable to your elected savings withdrawal

  • @mzeinvestments9176
    @mzeinvestments9176 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can I withdraw 100% of my vested component contributions on 15 September 2024?

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 2 měsíci

      Hi there, thank you for engaging with us. The vested component can only be withdrawn upon resignation or retirement if the funds are coming from a pension or provident. If it is a retirement annuity policy, the vested component will remain under the same rules of accessing the funds at age 55 only.

    • @mzeinvestments9176
      @mzeinvestments9176 Před 2 měsíci

      @@oldmutual Thank you very much! Yes, I meant via resignation. Its clear now, I think most people were scared thinking the vested component will go to the retirement portion, so the seeding amount can also be withdrawn.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 2 měsíci

      We are glad to have provided you with more clarity on the matter.

    • @Asokolyrics
      @Asokolyrics Před měsícem +1

      Is the invest money be affected by the new system ?what if you want to leave the organization are you going be able to take the old money with is ready there

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hello, Old rules will apply to your retirement savings accumulated as of 1 September.
      You will still have access to some of your accumulated retirement funds (which will be in your vested pot) when you leave - one-third of your investment (as of 1 September) can be taken as cash.
      You can also access what is in your savings pot if you leave after September 2024.

  • @user-yu4pw6km8v
    @user-yu4pw6km8v Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hi will I be able to access my money if I resigns including the two third of retirement which is the vested pot after 1 March 2024? And what happens if I resign before 55 years after the inception of this bill. Will I receive my vested pot with one third, then two third that is generated after inception of this bill receive at retirement age? Can you please clarify these grey areas.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hello, thank you for reaching out to us. Please DM us the following information (to protect your personal information) :
      ID Number
      Contact Number
      Email Address

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hello, thank you for reaching out to us.
      To find out more information about the two-pot system, kindly visit www.oldmutual.co.za/two-pot-retirement-system/

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 6 měsíci

      Hi there, the Two-Pot system has not been approved as yet. More details will be shared in the near future.

    • @Gracy_Plaatjies
      @Gracy_Plaatjies Před měsícem +1

      ​@@oldmutualI'm sorry but can you please answer the "what happens if I resign" part. Thank you.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem +1

      Hello Gracy_Plaatjies.
      You will still be able to withdraw from your employer-sponsored fund any savings you made before 1 September 2024. If you have not made a withdrawal in the tax year in which you lose your job, you will also be able to withdraw what is in your savings pot

  • @benjaminrobertson254
    @benjaminrobertson254 Před 7 měsíci

    What rules will apply to GEPF?

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 7 měsíci

      Hi there, we are, unfortunately, unable to provide full information on GEPF.

    • @benjaminrobertson254
      @benjaminrobertson254 Před 7 měsíci

      I just wanted to know if this 2 pot ystem affect or includes GEPF.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 7 měsíci

      Good morning, more information can be found here: www.oldmutual.co.za/two-pot-retirement-system/

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 7 měsíci

      Hello,
      The proposed two-pot system will apply to all defined benefit funds, including the GEPF. However, the calculation methods for the two pots will differ due to the unique nature of defined benefit funds. The allocation of contributions to the savings and retirement pots will be based on the member's pensionable service.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 7 měsíci

      Hello,
      The proposed two-pot system will apply to all defined benefit funds, including the GEPF. However, the calculation methods for the two pots will differ due to the unique nature of defined benefit funds. The allocation of contributions to the savings and retirement pots will be based on the member's pensionable service.

  • @Waz8
    @Waz8 Před měsícem

    Is retirement the earliest retirement age still 55

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi there, yes, that is correct.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hello, that is correct.

    • @Waz8
      @Waz8 Před měsícem

      Thank you

  • @RebeccaMokgopo
    @RebeccaMokgopo Před 2 měsíci

    How can I withdraw from two pots

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 2 měsíci

      Hi there, you can only access your savings pot, which is capped at R30000, with the minimum being R2000.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 2 měsíci

      Hello, as From 1 September 2024, your retirement contributions will be divided into two pots:
      A savings pot where one-third of your contributions will be allocated and which you will be able to access before retirement if required, and
      A retirement pot, where the remaining two-thirds will be kept for funding your income in retirement.
      This pot will be preserved until the retirement date.

    • @mahlodiannah204
      @mahlodiannah204 Před 10 dny

      If I started worked in 2016 and my pension is R640000 am I qualify for it

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před 9 dny

      Hi there, please use the Savings Pot calculator on Whatsapp 0860 933 333 to see the amount that could be available (seeding amount) as well as an estimate of the marginal tax applicable to your elected savings withdrawal

  • @shota2725
    @shota2725 Před měsícem +1

    If I'm retrenched at work what will happen to my money.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi, thank you for getting in touch with us. it was understood that you would be paid from all three pots (Vested, Savings, and Retirement) upon retrenchment. However, the policymakers have clarified that retrenchments will be treated the same as resignations. This means that you will only be paid the balance in the Vested and Savings Pots as a cash benefit.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      The balance in the Retirement Pot must be preserved within the Fund or transferred to another approved fund, with the restriction that you will only be able to access these amounts once you have retired.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi, it was understood that you would be paid from all three pots (Vested, Savings, and Retirement) upon retrenchment. However, the policymakers have clarified that retrenchments will be treated the same as resignations. This means that you will only be paid the balance in the Vested and Savings Pots as a cash benefit.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      The balance in the Retirement Pot must be preserved within the Fund or transferred to another approved fund, with the restriction that you will only be able to access these amounts once you have retired.

  • @Mhlengindwandwe
    @Mhlengindwandwe Před měsícem

    What happens if i get fired from work

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi there, your current retirement savings will not be impacted and will be governed by the old rules up to the Effective Date.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Hi there, The Two-Pot Retirement system proposes changes to South Africa's retirement savings to enhance financial security. It divides contributions into two pots: a "savings pot" for a lump sum at retirement (one-third of contributions) and a "retirement pot" for income during retirement (two-thirds). Members can access the savings pot before retirement, while the retirement pot is preserved until retirement.

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      Your current retirement savings will not be impacted and will be governed by the old rules up to the Effective Date.

  • @JusticeTshitoeng
    @JusticeTshitoeng Před měsícem

    Better not to sign/ accept it leave it that wei even if they put that money R30k do not touch or withdraw it up until u reach your retirement please this pot stores was wei bag stories during 1980 government of that time it's now operating finali😂 en implement GNU while other don't know rules of it 😂

  • @xhantilomzingqumba5499
    @xhantilomzingqumba5499 Před měsícem +1

    Allegedly... Old mutual is just a scheme😢

    • @oldmutual
      @oldmutual  Před měsícem

      We're sorry to hear that you feel that way. We take customer feedback seriously and would like to understand more about your experience. Can you please provide more details about what led you to this conclusion, so we can work to address any issues and improve our services? We are committed to providing the best possible experience for our customers and would appreciate the opportunity to make things right. Please feel free to message us privately on Twitter or Facebook.