You're welcome. It does pose some challenges, but I think it's important. There is the possibility that there could be a little more muzzle flash if I was mag dumping really fast or if I used different ammo, but this at least gives a decent comparison. Thanks for watching.
The thing with the night shoot camera is it’s to the side so it’s looking at the side port flash; if you notice the front barrel flash is barely even noticeable at close range. I have a relative in LE and he uses the Epsilon; they mentioned the department utilizes a front camera down range at 250 yds so as to monitor flash suppression from target’s perspective. The flash isn’t even visible downrange with the Epsilon attached; day, twilight or night. Which is what matters most because that’s it’s purpose.
I finally got my hands on a AR 15 .556 S&W M&P. I purchased that VG6 because of this video and I 100% have noticed the same reduction in recoil. Thank you sir. Great video.
Thanks. I appreciate that. For some reason, CZcams is not notifying me of many of my comments on my videos. I usually reply to comments very quickly and I just saw this one now. Thank you for watching.
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sorry it took so long to reply, but it seems that CZcams isn't giving me all of my notifications when people comment on my videos. Every once in a while, I stumble across a comment that I haven't seen. I try to reply to everyone if I can. Have a good one.
Thanks for the great info. I was looking for buyers confirmation as I already purchased this break for my ak in 7.62. Around $50 on Primary arms. Just installed and can’t wait to feel it working in person
I have this on an 11.5 build with the CAGE device. The flash looks like wings when firing and the gas slaps me in the forhead. But this brake is awesome! The CAGE worked really good for the concussion shooting 210 rds at an indoor range!
Awesome muzzle devices, run those on my ARs, SAR 1 and micro draco. You may wanna consider getting the cage device that slips over the device to really control the side blast and muzzle flash.
I meant to order one shortly after I bought it, but it kind of slipped my mind. I definitely have it on my list of things to try. Thank you for watching.
Update- I put the 7.62 gamma on my patriot chambered in the .300 WM, really takes the bite out of the 220 grain bullets. Works out beautifully to keep cross hairs on target for follow up shots if needed. I put the 6.5 gamma on my patriot chambered in the 6.5 creedmoor and works out great.
@@perryfryar5424 Worked out great, the harder/faster i run it, the better it responds. Just be wary of the placement of your non firing hand, it barks and throws some huge fireballs.
Everybody has different needs and different wants. What works for me may work for you, or it may not, and that is fine. I hope the video helped. Thank you for watching.
I went with the Gamma. It's ordered and I'll let you know. I heard the Epsilon was a real dragon far as muzzle flash. I didn't see too much flash on your video.
Yeah, I didn't experience a whole lot of flash with mine, but people may have different experiences with different ammo loaded with different powders. Either way, it's much reduced when compared to a barrel with no muzzle device at all. Thanks for watching and let us know how that Gamma works for you. Stay safe!
Happy to help. Sorry I just saw your comment now. CZcams does a really good job of NOT notifying me of all comments, so I do occasionally miss some. Thanks for watching, and stay safe out there.
Thanks for the comment. I haven't picked up the CAGE device yet, but I am gonna try to get one in my hands as soon as I am able and have the extra funds. Now that I have a request for a video, I might have to put it higher up on the priority list. Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing! Have a good one!
Good stuff man great video! How bad was the flash when shooting at night, considering what it is the flash wasn't that bad on the vid. Keep up the great job!
Thanks. The flash wasn't bad at all, all things considered. Not quite as subdued as a flash hider, or even my BD2, but certainly WAY better than having no muzzle device. I would say it's a very effective all-around device, but if flash suppression was your most important concern, I would stick with a dedicated flash hider.
I've been meaning to, but it often slips my mind. I wonder how easy it would be to find one right now with the way things are regarding firearms stuff. Thanks for checking out the video. Hope you enjoyed it.
The device really looks cool But I have one it doesnt help with muzzle flash maybe 30 % but it is very nice job of muzzle rise and better for compensation only....
Basically, two reasons. 1) I have a .308 version and I like the consistency of having the same stock on two nearly identical rifles, and 2) it stays put in my shoulder better. The plastic butt on the original stock doesn't have much friction, and honestly feels cheaper. I ran into a guy who was getting rid of one for a great deal, so I took advantage. I would have been just as happy if it was a thin, firm rubber pad, but this is what was available and works fine for me. Thanks for watching.
Hahaha. There are woods between me and the traffic, so I can't even see them. I just have the joy of interstate traffic noise in all my range videos. Thanks for watching. Have a good one!
I'm sure it would work fairly well. The stock break on my .308 Galil ACE is very similar to the Epsilon (minus the flash reducing prongs), and it is extremely effective. Granted, thatbis a semi-auto, but it would help a bolt gun too. Physics is physics. Have a good one and good luck!
Its upside down, according to the company, with that open prong straight up in ur line of sight at night wheres the flash goin straight up infront where ur trying to see and saying it compensate too well just adds to what I'm trying to get through to everybody on yt
I've only used this on this rifle, which is in 5.56mm. It could depend on caliber, but if reduction of recoil is your top priority, the BD3 would be the most effective of the three. The Epsilon and BD2 both work very well for that too, but the extra chamber of the BD3 does add some effectiveness, as well as just a little length. Hope this helps.
@@JunkfoodZombieGuns im not sure but big daddy unlimited has had the epsilon and gamma in different calibers and a bunch of other vg6 comps for half off for a while 🤫 they're both 50 bucks on there and its been like that for the past at least 6 months
To be honest, I can't remember. It has been close to a year since I purchased it, and I can't remember for the life of me. It may have been on sale at the time. Even so, the normal price of $65 is pretty reasonable for a brake of this quality. Thank you for watching.
It's been a while since I've looked them up, but if I remember correctly, this is essentially the same brake but with the short prongs on the front to help reduce flash.
@JunkfoodZombie - You noticeably shifted your weight back with the A2 flash hider than with the VG6. You were inducing the desired results. This test was a total sham. Besides, an AR has no kick whatsoever, and a real man can run an A2 flash hider and run it like a boss. Nothing wrong with the A2. Background: 8 years Army Infantry, 3 deployments, all with an A2...SMH
I hate when people use their military service as a source of authority over anything. Ninety-nine percent of service members will fire fewer than 2,000 rounds during their time in service. I didn’t fire my weapon once across two deployments. I‘ll take marksmanship advice from civilian shooters over military shooters almost any day of the week because they simply get more rounds down range, have more time working the trigger, etc. It’s pretty safe to assume that the people that have more (and proper) practice time will be better. IMTs and squad tactics are obviously a different story. Maybe if COs allowed their subordinates to store their weapons in the barracks or at home and let them use them at civilian ranges to gain proficiency, we’d be at a much higher proficiency. The Marine Corps is already moving forward with a recent MARADMIN allowing Marines to use CMP shoots as a Table 1 score, but it’s simply not enough yet.
Thanks for shooting in low light no light. This answers a ton of question.
You're welcome. It does pose some challenges, but I think it's important. There is the possibility that there could be a little more muzzle flash if I was mag dumping really fast or if I used different ammo, but this at least gives a decent comparison. Thanks for watching.
The thing with the night shoot camera is it’s to the side so it’s looking at the side port flash; if you notice the front barrel flash is barely even noticeable at close range. I have a relative in LE and he uses the Epsilon; they mentioned the department utilizes a front camera down range at 250 yds so as to monitor flash suppression from target’s perspective. The flash isn’t even visible downrange with the Epsilon attached; day, twilight or night. Which is what matters most because that’s it’s purpose.
I finally got my hands on a AR 15 .556 S&W M&P. I purchased that VG6 because of this video and I 100% have noticed the same reduction in recoil. Thank you sir. Great video.
Awesome. Thanks for watching. Glad it helped.
Appreciate you talking through the practical application, while it's a fresh experience. Very informative!
Thanks. I appreciate that. For some reason, CZcams is not notifying me of many of my comments on my videos. I usually reply to comments very quickly and I just saw this one now. Thank you for watching.
Just got one for $74 after shipping for a ZPAP M70 :D. After watching your review: super excited.
Good deal. Hope it works well for you.
Epsilon and cage are 89.99 until july 6th
Good video brother! Thanks for showing all the important comparisons. Also going to try that "magazine forward" thing you did
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Sorry it took so long to reply, but it seems that CZcams isn't giving me all of my notifications when people comment on my videos. Every once in a while, I stumble across a comment that I haven't seen. I try to reply to everyone if I can. Have a good one.
Thanks for the great info. I was looking for buyers confirmation as I already purchased this break for my ak in 7.62. Around $50 on Primary arms. Just installed and can’t wait to feel it working in person
Awesome. Have fun with it!
I love mine. I think it made a massive difference in recoil and muzzle rise. 50 bucks is a steal for one.
Bought one for $32 at Primary Arms. This will be my first muzzle brake / compensator.
Nice. Great price! Hope it works well for you.
Good stuff, as always. Taking delivery of a 5.56 Galil Ace soon and it looks like I’ll be mounting a VG6 to it.
Awesome. I hope you enjoy your ACE as much as I have been enjoying mine. Have fun with it!
I have this on an 11.5 build with the CAGE device. The flash looks like wings when firing and the gas slaps me in the forhead. But this brake is awesome! The CAGE worked really good for the concussion shooting 210 rds at an indoor range!
Awesome. I appreciate the info on the CAGE device. Stay safe and happy new year!
Awesome muzzle devices, run those on my ARs, SAR 1 and micro draco. You may wanna consider getting the cage device that slips over the device to really control the side blast and muzzle flash.
I meant to order one shortly after I bought it, but it kind of slipped my mind. I definitely have it on my list of things to try. Thank you for watching.
Update- I put the 7.62 gamma on my patriot chambered in the .300 WM, really takes the bite out of the 220 grain bullets. Works out beautifully to keep cross hairs on target for follow up shots if needed. I put the 6.5 gamma on my patriot chambered in the 6.5 creedmoor and works out great.
How well do it work with the micro draco
@@perryfryar5424 Worked out great, the harder/faster i run it, the better it responds. Just be wary of the placement of your non firing hand, it barks and throws some huge fireballs.
Thanks for doing a flash comparison!
No problem! I feel like it's useful to a lot of people. Thanks for watching.
Great video. I guess I don't give a rip about flash hiding capabilities, but having a quick follow up shot or tracking my shot is important.
Everybody has different needs and different wants. What works for me may work for you, or it may not, and that is fine. I hope the video helped. Thank you for watching.
Great video comparison and review. You showed the differences
Thanks for the comment. Appreciate you checking out the video.
I have thought about getting one of these for a while. Well needed information.
Thank you. I hope it helped.
Just bought a Gamma to put on my Tavor SAR. Lots of great reviews ! Hope it performs well
Thanks. Good luck with it!
Huckleberry arms the price was $46.00 for Vg6 epsilon
I went with the Gamma. It's ordered and I'll let you know. I heard the Epsilon was a real dragon far as muzzle flash. I didn't see too much flash on your video.
Yeah, I didn't experience a whole lot of flash with mine, but people may have different experiences with different ammo loaded with different powders. Either way, it's much reduced when compared to a barrel with no muzzle device at all. Thanks for watching and let us know how that Gamma works for you. Stay safe!
You should do a video on the cage when get one. I feel it’s a good combo for indoor range and home defense.
I'm hoping to snagbin at some point. Right now, I'm dedicating most funds to any ammo I can find at reasonable prices...
Great video man, definitely helped me out with my decision
Happy to help. Sorry I just saw your comment now. CZcams does a really good job of NOT notifying me of all comments, so I do occasionally miss some. Thanks for watching, and stay safe out there.
Nice video.. I feel the Gamma has less flash than Epsilon the Cage actually works pretty well with out effecting Compensation too much!!
Thanks for the info. Have a good one!
Always glad to see your videos. Keep them coming :)
Will do. The next one is gonna be a bit more somber, though.
Got one of these coming in for my 9mm carbine.
Hope it works out for you. 👍
Thank you for the video.
Thank you for watching it!
Thank you for the video. Very well done. Perhaps you could do a review of the cage device also? New subscriber 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks for the comment. I haven't picked up the CAGE device yet, but I am gonna try to get one in my hands as soon as I am able and have the extra funds. Now that I have a request for a video, I might have to put it higher up on the priority list. Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing! Have a good one!
Good stuff man great video! How bad was the flash when shooting at night, considering what it is the flash wasn't that bad on the vid. Keep up the great job!
Thanks. The flash wasn't bad at all, all things considered. Not quite as subdued as a flash hider, or even my BD2, but certainly WAY better than having no muzzle device. I would say it's a very effective all-around device, but if flash suppression was your most important concern, I would stick with a dedicated flash hider.
Love the Santa 🎅 t-Rex 🦖 shirt. Lol
Thanks! 😊
Should checkout the cage device for it, mitigates some of that concussion with not effecting it’s performance to much.
I've been meaning to, but it often slips my mind. I wonder how easy it would be to find one right now with the way things are regarding firearms stuff. Thanks for checking out the video. Hope you enjoyed it.
Great Demo!
Thanks so much. Glad you enjoyed it. Go ahead and share the video if you like. 🤘
Epic shirt may man!!
Thanks. I assume you're talking about the one with Santa on the T-Rex, and not the building supply one... 😁
Have a good one!
It is the cheapest place I found it anywhere on the Internet everywhere else it’s ranging anywhere is between $70-$90
Well done.
Thank you.
Nice video! Love to see the guitars.....guitars and guns!
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Have a good one!
I’m putting it on my 22lr Nordic components upper
They will look good, but I don't see them making much difference on a 22LR.
The device really looks cool But I have one it doesnt help with muzzle flash maybe 30 % but it is very nice job of muzzle rise and better for compensation only....
good video
Thanks!
Add the C.A.G.E. if you want to reduce Flash
Great video!
Just subd.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Look at precision armament multi hiders and how the prongs are positioned
If there is hardly felt recoil on the Galil 5.56, why did you get the 308 Galil stock with the recoil pad?
Basically, two reasons. 1) I have a .308 version and I like the consistency of having the same stock on two nearly identical rifles, and 2) it stays put in my shoulder better. The plastic butt on the original stock doesn't have much friction, and honestly feels cheaper. I ran into a guy who was getting rid of one for a great deal, so I took advantage. I would have been just as happy if it was a thin, firm rubber pad, but this is what was available and works fine for me. Thanks for watching.
"There's nothing I can do to control the traffic." Uhhh, look at what's in your hands... :D
Hahaha. There are woods between me and the traffic, so I can't even see them. I just have the joy of interstate traffic noise in all my range videos. Thanks for watching. Have a good one!
Of course! 🤣🤣🤣
Lmao!..
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Will the Epsilon VG6 for .308 work on a bolt gun or is there a better choice?
I'm sure it would work fairly well. The stock break on my .308 Galil ACE is very similar to the Epsilon (minus the flash reducing prongs), and it is extremely effective. Granted, thatbis a semi-auto, but it would help a bolt gun too. Physics is physics. Have a good one and good luck!
Great review, thanks for sharing boss!
Happy to do it. Thanks for commenting. Appreciate the feedback.
JunkfoodZombie I have one in the mail, looking forward to trying it out.
Its upside down, according to the company, with that open prong straight up in ur line of sight at night wheres the flash goin straight up infront where ur trying to see and saying it compensate too well just adds to what I'm trying to get through to everybody on yt
Which is best for Reduced recoil on an AK? This VG6 , BD2 or BD3?
I've only used this on this rifle, which is in 5.56mm. It could depend on caliber, but if reduction of recoil is your top priority, the BD3 would be the most effective of the three. The Epsilon and BD2 both work very well for that too, but the extra chamber of the BD3 does add some effectiveness, as well as just a little length. Hope this helps.
@@JunkfoodZombieGuns Definitely helps. Thank You 🙏
@@jah5075 VG6. Just installed one on my AK and it's night and day compared to an A2.
Epsilon and cage are 89.99 until july 6th
That's an awesome deal! Is the CAGE on sale by itself?
@@JunkfoodZombieGuns im not sure but big daddy unlimited has had the epsilon and gamma in different calibers and a bunch of other vg6 comps for half off for a while 🤫 they're both 50 bucks on there and its been like that for the past at least 6 months
@@JunkfoodZombieGuns actually they have the cage on there pretty often for 50 bucks
where did you find it for 50.00
To be honest, I can't remember. It has been close to a year since I purchased it, and I can't remember for the life of me. It may have been on sale at the time. Even so, the normal price of $65 is pretty reasonable for a brake of this quality. Thank you for watching.
Wouldn’t say it is a flash hider. Way to much flash from the muzzle.
Everybody saying same thing, flash straight up and blinds me(flip it over..) compensates too much(its upside down) ect ect ect
Theres is like 2 people on yt with this thing on right..moves DOWN BECAUSE ITS UPSIDE DOWN
Gamma is better
It's been a while since I've looked them up, but if I remember correctly, this is essentially the same brake but with the short prongs on the front to help reduce flash.
@JunkfoodZombie - You noticeably shifted your weight back with the A2 flash hider than with the VG6. You were inducing the desired results. This test was a total sham. Besides, an AR has no kick whatsoever, and a real man can run an A2 flash hider and run it like a boss. Nothing wrong with the A2. Background: 8 years Army Infantry, 3 deployments, all with an A2...SMH
Okay then. You have a nice day.
I hate when people use their military service as a source of authority over anything. Ninety-nine percent of service members will fire fewer than 2,000 rounds during their time in service. I didn’t fire my weapon once across two deployments.
I‘ll take marksmanship advice from civilian shooters over military shooters almost any day of the week because they simply get more rounds down range, have more time working the trigger, etc. It’s pretty safe to assume that the people that have more (and proper) practice time will be better. IMTs and squad tactics are obviously a different story.
Maybe if COs allowed their subordinates to store their weapons in the barracks or at home and let them use them at civilian ranges to gain proficiency, we’d be at a much higher proficiency. The Marine Corps is already moving forward with a recent MARADMIN allowing Marines to use CMP shoots as a Table 1 score, but it’s simply not enough yet.
Wow fick you lied so much! This break is a fire breathing dragon
You can't hide the extreme flash, liar
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