Who Will Be The 20th AFL Team ?
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2023
- With Tasmania set to join the AFL as the 19th team, the obvious next question is who will be the 20th team ?
In this video, we’re going to go with the idea of an all-new 20th AFL team and I’ve got 3 possible candidates lined up.
Let me know who you think will be the 20th AFL team in the comments below
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Great illustrations and video. I like Darwin Dingoes as an idea, and your concept art is great. Canberra Capitals would be a nice backup.
While Darwin is hampered by a lower population, here are my reasons why I'd support the idea
+ Makes the team national (ACT notwithstanding)
+ Would make for a challenging home-field advantage against players who are not acclimatised
+ Would increase local popularity of the sport and foster a strong fan base and serve not just as a feeder to other states
But dingoes aren’t a native animal
I can see the 20th team being a northern-based club (based in far north Queensland and NT) playing their home games in both Cairns and Darwin. Call them the northern crocodiles. After that I think North could possibly relocate to Canberra, to become Canberra Kangaroos. GWS starts playing a couple of home games a year in Newcastle instead.
That’d be interesting, I don’t think they’d go to Queensland again but a lot of people believe they could
@@mattn1 Eddie McGuire brought up this idea as money will be invested into Queensland for the olympic games, so he thinks that the AFL prospecting there should be investment to the AFL and in this case the 20th team. (definitely butchering him a bit but logic seems plausible)
Yeah it could definitely work, I think anywhere they go will be a bit of a challenge
a club will never succeed if it can't even pick a state to play in, nor will it ever be commercially viable. Darwin and Cairns alike simply aren't viable enough to have an AFL side and two different cities in two different states hosting 1 side is just idiotic.
not to mention north melbourne are almost a lock to stay in melbourne.
@@chadchaddertonI agree on everything but your comment on N.M.
The AFL are desperate to push two teams out of Melbourne,....they will get their way eventually.
Here is a few ideas for you (some a lot less likely than others)…..
NT Top Enders - Black, Ochre and White like their rep jumper.
Canberra Kookaburras - Blue, yellow and white (ACT flag colours).
North Perth Pirates - Black, red and blue (the pirate, the ocean and blood)
North QLD Cyclones - Purple and teal (the storm and the Great Barrier Reef)
Hunter Valley Hunters - Navy and Royal blue (NSW colours)
South West Pelicans (this was already suggested in the media…. Teal, orange and white)
I actually really like these 20th predictions I like their logos to!
Darwin Dingos jumper is too orange and very ugly. The Navy Blue and Light blue for the Falcons could work plus I like the Canberra dark blue & gold. However the team I have in mind is a NT team simply called the NT MAGIC with a wizard being the mascot as the indigenous players have been nicknamed wizards with their speed and incredible skills. Colors are mainly Pale Peach with dark brown indigenous art work on the sides of the jumper with pale peach shorts and pale peach socks with dark brown bands at the top of the socks. Feel free to give your thoughts or ideas!
i like the idea of the Darwin Dingos, sounds cool, the home jumper looks sick!
I can't see at team in Darwin or NT. The population is too low and there isn't enough corporate support for 11 games of AFL footy. It would have to be heavily subsidised. Already there are too many financially weak teams. Perth has over 2 mill people. Darwin has about 140k and Canberra $400k. Darwin and Canberra can't compete with support or corporate money. While the idea of Northern Dingoes combining N Qld and NT is exciting, AFL really doesn't have a presence in N Qld at all. Also there is no real population in Northern WA. There isn't that much money with the locals, so many couldn't afford to go to 11 matches in a season. They couldn't spend a $100 a ticket to sit in premium areas, so how does a club survive. Mind you, if NRL moves there I might change my mind.
@@BDub2024 dude, no. lot saw a team for Tasmania, but a team WILL be in Tasmania, and its only fair the fans up in Darwin can barrack for a team from their home state
@@custarddragon9349 - NT will not be sustainable as an option for a full-time team. Tassie is a stretch, and it has double the population of NT.
But dingoes aren’t a native animal
Canberra/Riverina. Play some games in Albury and Mildura too.
Team 20: "Canberra"
Colours: bright green, royal blue and gold
After 10-20 years....
Team 21: "Northern Australia" (Based in Cairns for one half of the season, Darwin for the second half)
Colours: black, orange-ochre, maroon and white
(Black and orange-ochre home strip for NT games / Maroon and white home strip for Northern Queensland games)
Team 22: "Northern NSW" (team based in Newcastle to represent all regions north of Sydney)
Colours: sky blue and navy (traditional NSW colours).
A 20th team can’t be a merger!
I was coming here to say this, not only merger but people keep talking about relocations as well. Both would leave you with less than 20 teams!
Your Darwin Dingoes guernsey is amazing, both home and away kits look epic. The Falcons home one looks great, but the away one not so much. The Canberra Capital jumpers are pretty good, not sure about the name, but yeah I like the idea of all 3 teams, hopefully all 3 come to fruition eventually because I think Perth needs a 3rd team and Darwin and Canberra probably should get a team too.
Yeah I like how that Dingoes guernsey came together
I reckon the afl should be a 24-team competition by 2050. Canberra & Darwin are obvious choices for an expansion team, but we could also see a 3rd WA team (Joondalup, Bunbury, Mandurah??), 3rd SA team (Norwood??), or possibly even a 2nd tassie team (Devonport, Launceston??). Other cities that I'd like to see get an expansion team include Newcastle, Bendigo or Ballarat (Merge two VIC teams for this to happen), Cairns or Townsville, or possibly even a team in Auckland or Wellington, NZ.
I reckon they’d have to start merging or relocating vic teams eventually if they want to continue expansion, that won’t be easy though
I think beyond 20 teams they should seriously look into a second tier of competition
Yeah I could see that happening or even divisions or something
@@mattn1 i'd like to see that. Like a Western & Eastern conferences like the NBA does
Yeah it’d be interesting to see how that might play out
I like all of your ideas but it’s is the dingos for me their name just works the best and I like there shirts with the claw marks 👌✅👍
I probably agree with you on that, I love how that claw mark guernsey looks
My most option for 20th team for me would be Canberra, despite some claimed that it is the Giants Territory, but Canberra team could be the powerhouse of ACT and Riverina in AFL, It can play games in a upgrade Manuka Oval, and 1 games in Wagga Wagga and Albury, It would rival GWS if it’s created, I don’t even like the idea of Northern Territory in my opinion, because due to tropical climate in Darwin, and small population, despite Gold Coast and Melbourne plays few games there, if Canberra team was created, then GWS Giants have play somewhere else, they may can’t play all games in Giants Stadium because of the Easter Show, but GWS could’ve play some games in Accor Stadium, if no rugby games were played on some weeks, Accor Stadium could be for big games when they play against Swans and Large Victorian Clubs, But The ACT is more of the Rugby State, my another option is Newcastle if Canberra doesn’t want team, Newcastle could be a afl powerhouse of Hunter Region, like the ACT, it is a Rugby Region, and another problem is, like Tasmania, It needs a new stadium, which would be a bit expensive to build.
I definitely think Norwood will be the next team. Mainly because QLD, Canberra and the NT are small markets and would not be able to support a team at the financial level as well as their small populations.
Norwood is a pre-existing club with a stadium that has hosted matches and realistically all the league would have to do is to place the AFL logo where the SANFL logo goes.
WA can work but the club would need to be based outside of the main Perth area but still play at Optus Stadium.
West Perth adopting their arch-rival's colours for the AFL?😲
This team isn’t West Perth, the Falcon name is simply an acknowledgment of the west perth history in Joondalup
@@mattn1west Perth don't really have history in Joondalup though. All their history was in west perth/Leederville until they moved for financial reasons. But they don't really identify with Joondalup at all, they weren't even willing to change the name to "north Perth Falcons" or "Joondalup Falcons". They just dumped their team there.
@@mattn1 East Perth hate West Perth and vice versa. The only way it would be Joondalup in blue and black was if it was the Joondalup Royals or West Perth Royals. Then instead of bringing over 2 lots of supporters you may end bringing over none! West Perth haven't been in Joondalup that long (only 30 years). Their spiritual home with fans is Leederville, where East Perth and Subiaco play now. And East PErth 's spiritual home was turned into a rectangular stadium. Don't get me started! That really was the beginning of the crowd dropping away for them.
@@beebeenyneeee7692 East Perth hate West Perth and vice versa. The only way it would be Joondalup in blue and black was if it was the Joondalup Royals or West Perth Royals. Then instead of bringing over 2 lots of supporters you may end bringing over none! West Perth haven't been in Joondalup that long (only 30 years). Their spiritual home with fans is Leederville, where East Perth and Subiaco play now. And East PErth 's spiritual home was turned into a rectangular stadium. Don't get me started! That really was the beginning of the crowd dropping away for them.
@@beebeenyneeee7692 They went to Joondalup to get a decent junior area too. WAFC kept ripping off EP and WP, while Subi and Claremont that are more fenced in in the western suburbs were winning flags. I had a chuckle at a blue and black falcon too. For south australians its like having Glenelg Tigers, but making them wear black with white prison bar sash. I don't know if Joondalup Royals or West Perth Royals could do it. Or West Perth Cardies is attractive, as their traditional name before a stupid name change. West Perth refuse to call their team Joondalup despite the council making it financially difficult for them.
Do WA really deserve a third license given that they were thrashed in Perth by the SANFL by 11 goals ?
It shows how good the competition is within the SANFL and this translates to how great Norwood is. Best club outside the AFL.
Norwood is a strong traditional club that has the history behind them to succeed. The Crows don't want them in the AFL because they know their supporter base would drop dramatically. I'm a Port supporter and would love to see the old Port / Norwood rivalry.
@@Paul-lx2pc I actually hope that the Showdown continues, but that Port/Norwood have something like the Rivalry Round.
As a WA native, I would love a third team to come in. And as a West Perth fan, I love the idea of them being the Falcons. I’d sign up to be a member, for sure.,
A Northern Territory based team seems like the most logical 20th team location. I’d go with Northern to represent the North of Australia rather than a city based name. They could play some games in North Queensland like GWS plays in Canberra, and A universal name like northern would be more accepted by the Northern parts of Aus. Also, I couldn’t see any vic teams merging in the current day after surviving the merger/relocation proposals of the 80s and 90s, relocations could be a possibility though to even out the vic dominated numbers.
Unfortunately there isn't enough of a population in northern Australia. WA doesn't have much at all and wouldn't feel a link to it. You're talking massive distances. N Queensland is absolutely rugby and nothing else. Darwin only 140k. Perth is over 2 million and only has 2 teams and then you also have town that are 2 hours away that drive to the game. There are too many weak teams in the comp financially and supporter wise. The AFL won't be sustainable. There is even a lack of TV audience so you wouldn't get more TV viewers really, just water them down. I do think that the Suns could be playing home and away games in Darwin and Cairns at the moment. Brisbane could play a home and away match in Cairns too. Principle being that Suns play Saints home and away in Cairns, play North home and away in Darwin... same with Melb. When you add the matches up you suddenly have 4 matches in Darwin and 4 matches in Cairns. That's enough. The people in Darwin don't have the money to pay $30 to $100 for every match. Its not going to happen. So how will the club survive without it. Then you get the millions that clubs get from corporate boxes etc.
Nt will never get a team, they don't have the population or the finance to make it happen.
@@BDub2024 Yeah I agree with your points about teams moving some games to those cities instead of giving them a team. I do think that Saints and North need to either fold and distribute the assets back into the AFL or give those assets to struggling interstate teams.
@@SilentHotdog28 Those poorly supported clubs in melb should be playing home and away matches in the developing centres. E.g.North play GWS both home and away in Camberra. That way its a semi neutral venue and neither club is disadvantaged. It allows GWS to still have lots of games in Western Sydney but still service Canberra. North pulls their weight too. I reckon North should really be working the outer suburban areas of Melbourne if they are to survive. They need to pull their weight and at least make an effort to increase their supporter base at the same time. There doesn't seem to be sufficient effort. If North played Sydney (home and away) in Canberra. Then played GWS (home and away) in Canberra. Suddenly North are playing 4 matches in Canberra and working to develop a supporter base there. The club has had no long term vision at all
WA makes the most sense
South West WA - based in Bunbury. Capture the identity of WAs iconic south west: Margaret river, Busselton etc.
Not enough population density down there.
I feel like a relocation is more likely than a merger because of the outrage from fans.
If there was ever a WA team, I've often wanted a Perth side combining East Perth, West Perth and Perth. Colours are red, black and blue. Could be called Perth United or Perth Royals even. Something that would be like a Perth version of what Fremantle has representing their history with the Dockers, local suburban footballing for the old inner Perth area.
The other choice could be a Grand Swan Districts FC, they can cover an area from Bayswater out through Bassendean, Midland; up through Middle Swan, West Swan, Caversham; all the way through Ellenbrook up to Upper Swan. I guess the problem for them would be the team name and colours though, both already in use in the AFL.
Could call them the Western Districts or something, keep part of the swans identity without the ‘Swan’ nickname
@@mattn1 having the Western Districts vs Western Bulldogs matchup between two teams 2,721.51km apart with almost identical names doesn't sound overly lucrative for the AFL tbh
The Bulldogs need to go back to the Footscray name, Western bulldogs makes no sense in national comp
@@mattn1 "western" is much more representative of the club and it's fans that footscray was/is.
@@chadchadderton Literally not true! How can being based around 5km west of Melbourne in a national league make sense to use the "western" nomenclature??? Pure Victorian arrogance!
Why is it that Brisbane and West Coast had 5 to 6 months to get everything in order and ready to play the 1987 season, and Tasmania has a year or two??
How about a PNG team our first look internationally increase the talent pool plus more eyes from over seas PNG love both Aussie rules and rugby it’ll be a good risk to take for a longer benefit of the game overall also don’t think the game can handle anymore mainland clubs maybe a relocation of north mlb to the NT
What about Mandurah? We are quite a large city now in WA
Some of teams here have team names like (Thunder,Lightning)
Mandurah Thunder? and could use a mix of colours from the peel thunder and halls head lightning
I don't think it'll work out that way. Freo have already dominated the south of the river area now, especially with their move to Cockburn. WCE are still primarily a Central-based side. To to have a "North" team would make most sense, especially if they leverage that "northness" with Northern WA.
Peel thunder for sure if it's a WA team
id like to see the east perth royals or sturt double blues, only because i like the double blues and royals, sounds kinda cool
I'm an East Perth fan, so well done. East Perth was the first club in the early 80s that put their hand up to join the league. If there was a third club from WA it would probably be from Joondalup (EP arch rivals West Perth play there). Still, it could be Joondalup Royals. But you may get people protesting about Royals. After all, Colonial Brewing Company, had to change their name as hotels in Victoria started banning their product. Geez I'd hate to live in a narow minded place like that (sorry for locals, but how ridiculous). Actually West Perth were called the Cardinals or Cardies until 1981, but thanks to Cometti they stupidly changed their nickname to Falcons. They do have a good jumper red with a blue sash. I wonder if they would be the third Perth team.
East Perth are blue and black. That's an awesome look. Research their coat of arms its awesome.
@@BDub2024 yeah I'll look more into them, thanks for the info mate. I've been getting interested in both the wafl and the sanfl as a footy fan. Yeah I would like to see the royals name used in the AFL in the future and sure hope there is no woke nonsense around the world royal lol, I live in Vic and it is an absolute S hole for political correctness, all that colonial stuff is so dumb, I literally hate the woke n I don't hate many, just the woke and Collingwood 🤣
@@ImGodTheMaryBanger Yeh the Colonial Brewery in Margaret River? They had to change the name to CBCco because bars and bottle shops in Victoria said they'd ban the product because it said "colonial". WA and Qld is a bit different, and always seem to have a more realistic attitude towards the various minorities. We treat them with respect and don't patronise them...We got a Labor party leading here, so they're trying hard to push an agenda but its harder to cut through due to the population mix here.
@@ImGodTheMaryBanger Royals is great name for a footy club. I think Albany have a country team called Royals too. Combination of reasons. Royal Blue jumper. But also I think they when they started had blue red and white like the union jack. Now they blue with black yolk. Its a pity WAFL has dropped away. Partly WAFL's fault in they favoured some clubs like Claremont and Subi who had low supporter numbers and gave them favourable zones. So some clubs really struggled. Perth should be controlling the whole Perth to Armadale corridor, but they've been so unsuccessful over 40 years that no one in that zone would barrack for a WAFL team now at all probably.
i really want the afl to be a true australian league where the it's closer to having teams evenly spread across australia, with more teams in each state, some things that would need to happen are mergers/relocations, new teams and new stadiums. i think there should be maybe around 3 or 4 teams in each non-victorian state (excluding act and tassie) and closer to 6 teams in victoria. this may be a far-fetched idea, but if you look at the nfl, they have 30-something teams in it, and it seems like the league works well with that many teams, so it sems like 22-26 teams could work in the afl.
I agree, the current league is too vic heavy, but I also admit, it’ll be hard to see any teams merged or relocated
@@mattn1 it's probably too hard to see any relocations from any vic teams because the afl and those teams like melbourne, collingwood, carlton and geelong would want to preserve their history. but teams like hawthorne and north melbourne arent in a great position at the moment and they should be merged or moved.
I more-so meant it’ll kinda be sad to see teams change location or merge as you get used to certain teams being part of the league even if they aren’t your team
@@mattn1 i guess that makes sense, but i guess someone always loses when they try to add representation outside of victoria, because its hard to get rid of victorian teams, so to even out teams across states, you start to see needs for conferences like in the nfl, because the league is so big.
the US has over 330 million people, so literally 300 MILLION more people than australia... and even then they have NFL franchises that still struggle in larger markets than what you'd find in australia.
22-26 teams simply couldn't work in the AFL... 18 is a stretch as is.
I do think the AFL will probably push to do the same thing as the NRL, the NBL and the A-League, it is a dark horse in the race for a New Zealand-based team to be considered.
I don't see anything happening until sometime next decade, but if the AFL starts promoting in some of the areas you have mentioned, including another Adelaide-based team, most likely Norwood, as well as say the Auckland basin which has a big AFL following, I think we will more than likely find out by the end of the decade, with the build-up commencing a couple of years later.
I think there are five candidates for team 20, Norwood, the East Perth team, Canberra, Darwin, and Auckland.
A New Zealand team would be fascinating, I reckon it would’ve happened a lot sooner if those Anzac games they played in New Zealand were a greater success
@@mattn1 I wouldn't write it off just yet, the AFL is known for doing crazy things, I can see the new administration looking towards something along those lines a little later on.
I wouldn’t be surprised either but it’s definitely a long way off, have to build the fan base like Hawthorn playing games in Tassie for so long
NZ is disadvantaged because there isn't a stadium in Auckland. They're trying to work with the government for a new joint footy cricket ground. Slow moving. There won't be a third team in Adelaide due to smaller population (1.3 million). Perth has over 2 million. Perth team is more likely to be in Joondalup (where WP is based) which pains me as an East Perth Royals supporter. Unfortunately, after the Eagles and then Dockers joined the WAFL really dropped away. So people just don't have the tribal link to teams anymore. So if a WAFL team joined you can't even guarantee that the fans would jump ship from EAgles or Dockers to barrack for the new club. WA football commission would own the new club, so would have to be confident that 3 clubs would make more money for the WAFC than 2 clubs (Eagles and Dockers). Thats actually critical. My other thought is that there are too many weak clubs financially and supporter based in the competition. Its not sustainable. So I can't see that it can be Darwin or even Canberra really. The population is more in the proximity, but you just need strong corporate support not public servants. Perth is quite a wealthy town.
@@BDub2024 The key "disadvantage" in NZ is they don't care about the sport, and they're such a tiny economy that they can barely sustain professional sport full stop!
The NZ ideas in these types of videos/discussions are truly the weirdest and non-thought out ones of the lot!
I think GWS will probably move to Canberra. They have already got quite a fan base there and I think it suits them more.
And I believe there's a 3rd SA team pushing for AFL status. I also don't think a NT team will ever eventuate.
The Norwood red legs from the sanfl wanted to become a afl team a while age
@@AFL_productions Still do and if everyone here knows their football, Norwood is the only established club that will be strongly considered. Composite sides, particularly from WA do nothing for the integrity of the AFL. Norwood tick all the boxes.
@@gregrobins5615 I think either Perth or Adelaide are the smart choices as you will get membership numbers, both cities have been screaming out for a 3rd team. I think 2 Vic clubs need to go and I'd say North and Saints should, too many teams in Melbourne, Dogs (as much as I don't want them to go) are a 3rd choice if they want to take a 3rd out of Melbourne.
@@SilentHotdog28 Norwood are in advanced talks with the AFL already and are on hold whilst Tasmania get their own licence details organised. Has anyone confirmed that a bid from Perth is actually happening ?
I'd rather a team outside of W.A or S.A & probably Darwin would be my pick although player retainment might be an issue.
I’ve always thought it would good for TAS to have a team, for the NT to have a team and for North Melbourne to relocate to Canberra so that every state and territory is involved in the league. If any state is going to have a third team the only one worthy right now is WA and it’ll be a while but I’m sure someday SA will be worthy, as for NSW and QLD I wouldn’t look at giving them a third team unless the AFL starts getting almost as popular as rugby.
Northern Bulls will be the 20th team in the afl Representing all of the Northern Territory and Queensland north of the 26th Parallel. WA north of the 26th parallel is not included because the whole state is Eagles and Dockers territory. They will 7 Games in Darwin, 2 in Alice Springs and one each in Mackay and Cairns.
A 3rd team in Perth really is a weird idea. It's already working well with 2 rival teams, not sure how a new team would fit in. Like who will go for them ? West Coast fans switching teams, really ? On paper, they are too many so yeah I guess getting some of them behind a new team would be the idea, but it doesn't work like that though.. Same goes for SA, a new team doesn't make much sense.
NT would be great but unfortunately might be unrealistic. That leaves Canberra. Could be the most reasonable choice.
West coast fans will absolutely switch. Especially for a local team in a west coast dominated area like Joondalup.
Every teams supporters says "our supporters are loyal, they would never switch" before the new team comes, but they get proven wrong every time.
Joondalup also has a constant flow of immigrants from interstate or overseas who would support a local team.
@@beebeenyneeee7692im from joondalup and completely disagree
WCE already have a multi-year waiting list for memberships, and there are still quite a few "soft" Eagles supporters that would go for a new team. Perth and WA as a whole are really growing in population, and Freo and WCE are both very successful clubs financially, so there is room for more. Especially with the quality of stadium they just built. If they set them up in North side of Perth, and name it in honour of Northern WA, then you will also get the support of regional WA and mining sponsorship.
Canberra absolutely makes the most sense (four times the population of Darwin).
But you'd have to go with another team name. I'm personally a fan of the Canberra Griffins (Griffin was our town planner and a bunch of things are named after him), or the Canberra Owls (the collective noun is a parliament).
Canberra long overdue for an AFL team and agree they're the logical choice for team 20. We were the first city outside VIC to bid for a team in the VFL, well before the Swans moved to Sydney. As a Canberran Port fan, I could definitely see the Griffins becoming my second team. A third SA team would just be weird.
@@noahh1870 If anything Perth should have a third team, but the WA Football Commission would have to be convinced that a third team won't impact the profitability of Eagles and Dockers, as both clubs fund WA junior footy. If WAFC are convinced that there will be more moneyfor WA footy, then game over. Perth it will be.
@@noahh1870 There will never be a third SA team. Perth has a much bigger pop than Adelaide. Canberra is the Giants expansion area and they just need to play more there. Its easy to do. Giants just play Melb and Bulldogs home and away in Canberra. Boom, that's four games in Canberra straight away. Then you get Sydney playing Saints home and away in Sydney... Suddenly its six games. Its the way to do it, as all the teams are playing at a neutral venue and you don't have Melb clubs having to sell matches in Canberra and be disadvantaged.
Griffins are creative for sure. Burley is something else too. In Perth they don't use a Sherrin, they play with a Burley.
@@BDub2024 Interesting point about a third Perth team. I agree that it makes more sense than another Adelaide team - the market for footy in Adelaide is entirely saturated by Port and the Crows. As for Perth, I get the feeling that there might just be enough room for a third team that represents 2 or 3 WAFL teams (like the Dockers). It's a fast growing city. Eagles and Dockers are almost definitely going to object to it though.
The NT team could be like the New England Patriots in the NFL and represent an area rather than a state/city. Maybe an NT/FNQ team possibly?
I reckon a second tassie team for a tas rivalry. Devils v Titans?
They barely got one team, no way they’d be able to justify a second team financially
@@mattn1 understandable. Though that would also be a contributing factor to the NT (their representative team in the NEAFL folded due to lack of sponsorship)
Would be fun though for a Tas rivalry (north v south etc)
More afl cards to collect
What do you use to make those guernseys
I use photoshop
@@mattn1 oh ok thanks
Norwood, pure and simply. The Gather Round experience shows exactly what can happen when Norwood Oval is involved with the AFL. No more composite teams because it questions the integrity of the AFL . Clubs like Norwood will be at the front of the queue.
There won't be a third club in Adelaide, sorry. There isn't the population. Adelaide is 1.4 million. Perth is over 2 million now. I acknowledge that Perth people no longer have a real interest in the WAFL, so if a WAFL team joined you can't guarantee that old fans from the 1970s AND 80s in their 60s plus would even barrack for the team. But WAFC owns the Eagles and Dockers and if it can be argued that 3 clubs is more profitable than 2, then a new club will be from Perth. A lot of money in Perth and you can't have all these weak clubs like Darwin and Canberr that don't have a supporter base or financial support.
The Bunbury Bandicoots orange base with blue vertical stripes
Blue and Orange together wouldn’t look great unless you go the Denver broncos route of a darker, more navy blue
The clash gernsey is to similar to norths gernsey for the falcons
Could do Darwin salties?
I think Adelaide will get another team will probably be Norwood or South Adelaide
Canberra Capitals is the name of our WNBL team so unfortunately it won't work.
Maybe ACT Aviators or Canberra Colts. I'm sure someone could think of a better team name. We just need to upgrade Manuka oval first.
Or Move the Kangaroos to Canberra and Raise another team somewhere else.
Canberra isn't necessary either. GWS needs to play home and away matches at Canberra. Same applies with Sydney. For example, GWS could play Melbourne and Bulldogs home and away in Canberra each year. Sydney could play Saints home and away. Straight away that's six matches in Canberra. I reckon that is enough. GWS would still have 9 home matches in Sydney + 1 away against Swans.
The Northern Territory should really get an AFL team, they all love their footy over there in the territory. I think it would be cool if they incorporate North Queensland as well so the AFL won’t worry about making a team up there. Split games in Darwin, Alice Springs, Cairns and or Townsville.
Also Mackay for one game too
Northern Territory would be the number 1 choice for a 20th team because not only its a true footy state, they have a great fanbase and the Territory folks love their footy, also a lot of the best players come from the NT. Western Australia, as a Freo man but also don't mind the West Coast, not too sure about a 3rd team from WA given that the non Vic states in the comp (WA, SA, NSW and Qld) have two teams each, then again there has been talk in the past of another WA club. ACT, another candidate for a club in the Nations Captial but I reckon the AFL prefer the Giants to field that territory. And this one may sound way off the chart but there's also been talk about New Zealand get their hat in the AFL ring. Most of the other sporting codes (NRL, NBL, A-League) at least have a team from NZ and also a lots of the leagues best have come from across the ditch. But that all aside, after Tasmania entry we need another team in the mix.
I disagree, Darwin is only 140,000 and there isn't the population or wealth. I get the idea that a lot of tickets are given away there. You need people happy to pay $30 to $120 each match. Plus all the corporate support needed. Even Canberra will struggle though there is a population in NSW. I think it needs to be in Perth really. Probably be Joondalup. Could be Mandurah, but they wouldn't travel to Perth for home matches and it seems sleepy hollow there though a population of people that actually love footy. Other option is Swan Valley that is rapidly expanding. Pity that there isn't an allegiance to WAFL teams anymore really. Joondalup mightn't even attract many West Perth fans. East Perth was the biggest club but not really anymore. Would you call a team West Perth and base itself at Joondalup for training? Or Joondalup Royals (or would you get the same whingers that forced Colonial Brewery to change its name rock up). Swan Districts Swans... problematic. You can't call them the Black Ducks. In the end it needs to be provide to WA Football Commission that they will make more money with 3 clubs in Perth than 2 clubs.
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@@jamesmunn867 Tell you what, the A-League announced a new team in Auckland for next season to go along with the Wellington Pheonix, the NRL are thinking about expanding with one more NZ based team to go along with the New Zealand Warriors. In the NBL the New Zealand Breakers have been one of the most successful teams in the league history. Heck I would love for the AFL to have another crack at New Zealand. It has been 10 years since an AFL games been played over there, given the low attendance played a factor, but things change over 10 years.
I don't know why people are so weirded out over the idea of a third Perth team. I get that it might not be the most "feel-good" option in that sense, but it's definitely the most logical. A strong economy, solid population growth (which is already upwards of 2.2 million), and it being an existing AFL zone. And while Freo's lack of on-field success has perhaps resulted in a smaller-than-what-it-should-be membership base, West Coast's numbers are through the roof, despite this particular current season's shocker for the club. Seems like there's enough room for another team to me. Some will say that it might disrupt the fierceness of the Western Derby? Diddums. That's business. If anything, it'll probably more likely than not ad a literal third dimension to the mix and make it bigger and even more interesting. Perth needs to shake off that small town mentality anyway.
Why not Adelaide be considered for a third team of its own if Perth gets one? Again, it comes down to population. 1.4 million is actually considerably smaller than Perth when one thinks about it. Sorry, Adelaide.
Everyone would love to see Darwin included, but the place is just way too small, and its population size tends to fluctuate up and down depending on whether or not economic times are good. Plus, many who live there tend to be there on short-term basis and are unlikely to seriously get behind the local team. Not to mention that half those short-term residents come from NRL States. Don't even bother trying to convince most of them to give AFL the time of day let alone support a local team. Waste of energy.
North Queensland? Absurd idea. It'd be like the NRL plonking a brand new League club in Tasmania.
New Zealand, or anything foreign for that matter? Forget it.
Canberra? It's a League/Union place. Yes, it has a fast growing population, but it's not enough. But it's the perfect location for a struggling Victorian club to retreat to and start all over, like the Swans did in Sydney.
You should do your homework, Norwood are the best option. It has nothing to do with the population of South African Australians in WA. It's about giving back to an established club and not another composite side.
The new club in Perth would be owned by WA football commission. So the critical thing is whether a third club would increase or decrease the dividend that is paid by the AFL clubs to WA football commission. They would need to be pretty confident that it was going to be successful and not impact on Fremantle or West Coast's profitability. Really that is the key consideration in any decision.
There's no real market or need for a third WA franchise in the AFL. There's no other location outside of Perth capable of hosting an AFL side, and no other cultural/geographical history in Perth to leverage for that third franchise (despite the constant weird desperation to make "Joondalup": a soulless region of northern suburban expansion of Perth, sound like some viable option as a marketing option for a new WA AFL side).
The only two realistic options for any AFL expansion are Tasmania & ACT (and Tassie have been offered a spot in 2027, and ACT basically have half of the supporter base and half of the games hosted in Canberra for the failing and hugely expensive GWS franchise. So likely a future permanent home of GWS). So outside these two options, there's realistically no other options.
@@mikespearwood3914 As a West Aussie it would be good. But it wouldn't strengthen Eagles or dockers. Joondalup I kind of agree with you, but is far enough from Perth to develop a decent fan base. If 10 years earlier you could have been guaranteed a strong West Perth WAFL fan base. But in 5 years time... everyone has moved on. Swan Valley is the only other option, but that would be a risk. Despite that, it would be great to have 3 clubs here and more regular matches. It probably won't happen as WAFC won't want the risk of cutting profits. Giants just need to play home and away in Canberra more. 3 home and 3 away matches there would get the job done surely.
@mikespearwood3914 this is comments coming from someone who's never set foot in Joondalup, you know nothing about the football fans that are loyal to the West perth falcons in the WaFL
@@jackhudson2237 It would have to be West Perth for sure. But Joondalup wouldn't support it. Also have to be West Perth jumper and colours. But there is a problem with really local WP fans being in their 50s upward mainly (in the largest numbers). By the time, a 20th team comes along they will be late 60s. So if West Perth joined in the 2000s then more feasible and you would have got a guaranteed fan base. Now there is the risk that you'd also stop fans from barracking for the club. Lot of Subi fans up there now. Swan Districts are a loyal breed pushing from Bassendean into Midland and the Swan Valley, but probably not feasible. East Perth too inner city. South Fremantle would be the best option for club loyalty, but they already have Fremantle Dockers even though it doen't embrace Fremantle culture anymore and never too on South Frem East Frem traditions really at all.
@@jackhudson2237 Mandurah is feasible and it can connect with South west. Problems. Long way from Optus Stadium for home matches. Expensive to develop ground in Bunbury, but would be the obvious move for a few home games a year. Difficult for fans to go from South West to Mandurah, apart from car. So how do you fill a 20k stadium at Mandurah. No feasible. A long journey into Optus Stadium from Mandurah or South west. Plus Mandurah is a sleep town but an AFL town, as is the south west. Would it impact the Dockers too much.
the last team i have a feeling if it were to be considered i think should be called either the Canberra captains or the Canberra pirates. The pirates i seem may be a better option as a team in Canberra as it relates to the history of James cook landing in new south wales since back at that landing act was still considered new south wales. And i hope their isn't an actual team exactly like that Darwin dingoes that becomes a thing in the future of afl as i have my CZcams channel on my other account named something similar too dingoes and as soon as i saw that idea of your my mind was instantly turning to barrack for them although im a pies fan....... how could you do this!!!!😭😭😭
Maybe they can be your second team 😂
@@mattn1 i only have one life pal........ pies all the way. also yes i had to look up the fact look up the fact that James cook came before act was established okay why u bully me😭😭🤣🤣
The nickname "Pirates" for a landlocked team??!!
@@mikespearwood3914 its about the specific part history of the land wiyth captain james cook settling in roughly that area yes he wans't a pirate but its good sports team name
@@epicindian1013 James Cook landed in Botany Bay (Sydney) in 1770, and left and never lived in/helped settle, Australia.
If you like "Pirates" just say so, but literally both Canberra & James Cook don't have anything to do with pirates!
Either the NT or ACT for me.
Not enough population.
How does a relocated Victorian team make it an even number?
How about the Broome Bandicoots?
Broome - Population: 14,660
Ah I don't think so! 😅
West Perth in east Perth colours! Wow!
This team is not West Perth , the falcons name is just an acknowledgment of West Perth’s history in Joondalup
@@mattn1 btw great effort man! They all look great!
Thanks mate 👍🏻
I had a chuckle too. But could it be West Perth Cardinals based in Joondalup.
i think it should be located in canberra. crazy how it's been the capital for over a hundred years, and has never got a footy team. maybe the canberra cockatoos, but i do like the canberra capitals. on the other hand, since hawthorne are currently sponsored by the tasmanian government, they would probably lose that deal, and they would become less relevant in the league more like north melbourne, and they could merge. i honestly dont know why they didnt make them the hobart hawks in the first place.
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised to see a vic merger at some point, probably should’ve happened a long time ago
The Canberra Pollies?
Why they didn't let Fitzroy move to Hobart in the early 90s is more to the point.
@@chasindigo becuase there were issues with the management at the bears, and it was clear that if noone stepped in, they would have gone under
Not enough population or money. Giants should be able to service it by playing home and away there each year. Sydney could play there too.
they need a place with a big fan base, NT isn't big enough for a AFL team and likewise for Canberra sadly. i'd do what NRL, NBL and even Baseball did and go overseas. PNG has a HUGE afl following as it's their national sport... but in this case i'd go more local and start a team in Auckland with a rivalry against Tasmania
I don’t think they’d take that big a risk but it’d be interesting if they did
All of the giants biggest crowds come from canberra. If they upgraded manuka oval thy could probably get 10,000-15,000 people a week, which is enough to start off.
PNG doesn't have a HUGE footy following, rugby league is by far the biggest sport in the country... by a long way.
Also canberra is a larger footy market than Auckland and it's more logistically viable for the competition also.
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Dingos for me I always thought that would be a cool name.
I think the Canberra Capitals, the WNBL team that's been around for like four decades, might have something to say about the AFL stealing their name
don't think the WNBL will be that big of an issue, since the AFL is the bigger name on the block, they could simply purchase the name, or work with the WNBL team to come up with a compromise. the problem with the WNBL is the fact that it simply doesn't have a lot of capital to prevent the AFL from using the name.
the AFL makes a profit, while the WNBL runs at a loss so they won't have the resources to prevent the AFL from using the name either.
Why can't west Perth just keep the same kit if they came in as Joondalup falcons? Red with blue sash is not in use. I know it's same colours as melb, but the sash is different. NM, Carlton and Geelong all essentially have the same colours
Because we don’t need another team wearing a sash, also the particular shades of red and blue that west perth use look terrible together
@@mattn1 hard disagree here. What's wrong with another sash? They are traditional to our sport. Red and blue together look fine and it stounds out. Plus it's about tradition. Look at how poet cling on to their prison bars.
If west Perth is team 20 they keep the same kit and logo. Maybe they change their name to Joondalup or north coast, but that's about it.
We already have two teams with a sash, three teams with vertical stripes and three teams with a variation on hoops, new teams need unique designs not more of the same
@@mattn1 West Perth have the best jumper in the country probably and I'm an East PErth man. Its absolutely iconic strip. The fans are fanatics but the supporter base has aged... You can't really have any relationship with EP for it to be serious. It has to be red and blue or nothing.
Canberra does not need a stand alone afl club! The renting of gws is enough
The Darwin Dingoes I like. But the Falcons and Capitals ... too much use of the blue and the gold for teams. Green is a massively underused colour. Maybe even heading towards some neon colors as used by some soccer clubs now. A neon green and earthy, terracotta red. Maybe make Canberra team colour a nice Barbie pink, suits them.
Sydney would wear light pink as clash jumper. Falcons is a rubbish name. Too many birds or prey already. Dockers should be green still. Dumb decision. Darwin doesn't have enough population or wealth to have a team.
The Giants are more likely to move to Canberra, Darwin won't get a team as they dont have a population to support it. Perth won't get a third team as your either west coast or freo. the only place that makes logical and financial sense for a 20th team is New Zealand being the Falcons mens team and the Kahu women's team. plus they already have a stadium. Would need to be like a Melbourne Storm type venture within the next 10 years. also they have huge amounts of untapped talent.
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If you want to be realistic here, the only option here is WA 3.
The Tasmanian team is going to cost a fortune to create. You are looking at over a billion dollars for the stadium, facilities, workers, team costs, etc.
Do the AFL and Federal goverment really want to be spending crazy amounts of money setting up another expensive stadium or club in a high risk market with no garuntee of survival without constant funding like the NT, Canberra or NQL?
They need a team fast to even out the competition. The WA market is low risk, been needing a team for decades, already has a stadium, state league, faciltiies, etc. Population is rapidly expanding and footy interest is everywhere. A place like Joondalup is perfect for it. Upgrades to HBF arena is all that would be needed to house an AFL team. A 3rd team would also stomp out the rising NRL interest in WA. The eagles are too big. They have more members than they have seats. There are masive years long waiting lists for reserved seat memberships. A 3rd team will relieve that pressure. Joondalup and north perth is heavily dominated by eagles support, so a Joondalup based team would be taking from the eagles without harming much of freos supporter base which a Mandurah team would do.
Perth 3 would be a fast, cheap and low risk option. What the AFL needs after adding tassie which will need lots of support snd funding. This also applies to SA 3. But WA just makes way more sense short term. If this happened then im 100% a 3rd adelaide side will be bundled up with a canberra or NT team in the next lot of expansion.
One expensive risky expansion side, one easy garunteed success for financial relief side to go with it.
Also the new Joondalup team wouldn't be the falcons or be called the falcons. WA afl sides are all original and seperate from the WAFL and are handled by the WAFC. Naming it after let alone associating with the WAFL will only harm the new sides success. South Australia is the opposite and will probably have a SANFL club like Norwood join the AFL.
Everyone seems to forget that the AFL don't want another composite side just for the sake of it. It does nothing for their integrity handing out licenses like McDonald franchises. This is why Norwood is the only established club who could step in as the 20th team and continue the huge rivalry with Port Adelaide.
@@gregrobins5615 A 3rd WA team will be far more financially successful than Norwood would be. They have a far greater audience and far more people in the market. Being a rich in the SANFL means nothing in the AFL. The WAFC has plenty of money. Port Adelaide greatly benefits from pokie money to stay afloat while WA clubs have turned massive profits while not having any. The only reason gold coast and GWS need so much money is because they are in hostile markets with little interest in Aussie rules.
The Cook Island Cannibals or The Auckland Rams
Somehow I don’t think that first name would get past the AFL censor 😂
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Get someone who loves you like Matt N loves clawmark guernseys
I do love the claw marks 😂
NT is the most likely and I do like the name the Darwin Dingoes but the problem is that NT will only ever have one club so it needs to be called Northern Territory. I think just keep the Thunder name but change the guernsey. Canberra is out because GWS are there for another 10 years and the Capitals is already a taken name. The Cobras might work instead. I also like your guernsey designs but they are too retro looking. Clubs these days like traditional looks so go with something more simple.
Should be another sa team as sa has one of the best history of Australian footy. I reckon either norwood redlegs. Colours, navy blue or royal blue, red and silver. Or Woodville-West Torrens Eagles but replace the name to warriors to bring back the original name and call it woodville warriors. Colour are green and gold.
I like the sound of Woodville Warriors 👍🏻
there should not be another SA team whatsoever... there is not a market for it.
norwood are already in the AFL in the form of the crows...
and woodville couldn't even sustain a SANFL side but you think they should be an AFL side?
Perth is too much bigger than Adelaide. So if anything would be from Perth. But WA Football Commission will need to be convinced that the profitability will be higher with three clubs.
@@mattn1 Have you taken a serious look into the Norwood FC ? They are miles ahead of ANY composite side and all club sides. Are you from WA, by any chance ?
@gregrobins5615 Norwood was the other team I considered doing for this video, I’ve done some Norwood stuff in the past so I decided to just do some new designs
Don’t think WA will get a third team because it will piss off the other states besides Victoria that WA gets three before them. Canberra or Darwin will go next. Great jumper for the Darwin Dingoes though
I think Canberra is best pick because the NT is to far for them to travel to Melbourne let alone perth and WA don’t need another team
Hopefully it will be an Auckland team 🙏
Now you're talking. There needs to be a stadium in Auckland first and then for there to be 5 games a year. It needs to be fast tracked as a priority. Unfortunately it will be 20 years away for a team maybe. But I think there should be 2 games a year there right now.
Kiwis don't care, so how on earth is Auckland a viable option for an AFL franchise???!
@@mikespearwood3914 Without a decent stadium in Auckland they can't play a couple of matches a year. That is the first step.
@@mikespearwood3914 - Wellington had a few games there, averaging more to those games than GC and GWS average. The thing is too, that was in Wellington, not Auckland. Auckland literally has 6x the population of Wellington, and better weather. I think it's doable. Greater Auckland has almost 1.9 million people. Current data alone says there's 20,000 Australian-born residents in Auckland.
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Heres my idea: Darwin Dingos
Darwin dingos seems the best option. Gold Coast should adopt orange as their third colour instead of blue.
I reckon Gold Coast should use white as their third colour but either way, they need a whole new look that’s for sure
a team in darwin does not seem like a good option tbh...
@@chadchadderton Apart from financial hurdles, why not? Gold Coast and GWS have been running at a loss since their inception, and unlike those teams, a team in the NT would offer enormous social benefits...
@@an0nym0us8c Gold Coast and GWS are significantly larger markets... like HUGE.
and even then we've seen them struggle for a place, it'd only be much much worse for a NT team.
Canberra colours are too much like Eagles. You need to stop having a yellow jumper and then white shorts. Its a shocker. If you have a yellow jumper it needs yellow shorts or a colour like red or green, to differentiate to blue. The yellow could be a faded lemon I suppose. There is an option for lighter pastels. Like the Indian one day cricket uniform in the early 80s light blue and light yellow.
So more majority black & navy blue jerseys for AFL sides?! How about some more original colours and colour combinations?!!
The AFL is at that point where multiple teams having similar colour schemes is inevitable, orange and green were the last original colours
@@mattn1 PA bought in teal, no?
@@mattn1there needs to be another green afl team
Yes but my point was after Freo used purple, Port used Teal, GWS used orange and Tassie use green, there aren’t really any unique colours left, a team in black and blue is at least a colour combo not currently in use
The dingo isn't actually native animal to Australia
lol nor are tigers and lions
Okay, maybe not native, but an iconic Australian animal.
Joondalup is the obvious location. Though it is a massive area full of British and S Africans. They love their soccer and rugby. Still there is the hard core footy fans in the northern corridor. The options would be in the fast growing Swan Valley. Swan Districts are based in Bassendean and have the working class loyal fans. East Perth are pushing into the Malagas, Caversham, Ellenbrook... It will continue to grow to Bullsbrook. This will have a train line and likely to have passionate fans. Swans wear black and white stripes... sorry Eddie. When Swans played Collingwood in 1982 its Collingwood that wore all white. Swan Districts nickname is Swans. Though sometimes the fans fondly call them the black ducks! Then you have clubs like East Perth Royals who are blue and black. Other option is Peel, but that is a lot further from Perth and Optus Stadium. While its an Aussie rules heartland, I don't think there is much passion to watch the footy or even catch the train to watch it. Its a large holiday town where people want to surf, go crabbing and surf. So Joondalup or Swan Valley are the obvious places
@CJ-theDJ Would you call it Joondalup or West Perth? Would you go with red jumper with blue sash, which is an iconic strip. Falcons or Cardinals or something different.
@CJ-theDJ If Joondalup then they have to take advantage of the West Perth connection. Red with blue sash. But you'd can't have Falcons. West Perth used to be called Cardinals/Cardies, but switched stupidly in the 1980s. Mind you, it won't happen for 10 years and by then a lot of the old WAFL fans would be too old. So you lose the advantage of being linked to a WAFL team. In the end any new teams will be owned by WAFC. So WAFC has to decide whether it will make more money if there are 3 teams instead of 2. No guarantee that it would make more.
@CJ-theDJ then you need to somehow convince the west perth fans that the West Australian Football Commission club actually has strong links to West Perth and not something just contrived to con the WP fans to barrack for Joondalup. A bit tricky to do that. Here's another idea from left field. Have a team called the Black Ducks and have them in WA State colours. Make it a team with a strong WAFL and WA footy heritage, so to try to win the old WAFL fans to support an AFL team. Not sure if that will work though. You can't call them Black Swans. So Black Ducks is an official nickname. Yep I'm from the land of the black duck.
@CJ-theDJ East Perth Royals. Great team. They're ripped off because they aren't given a decent zone. They get a zone where the kids doing soccer and hockey or get tutoring all weekend, instead of playing footy! half joking. They're getting a training base out Malaga soon.
Swan Valley will be expanding quickly right out to Bullsbrook eventually. So there will be a lot of footy fans out there. So that's another option for a team. But it all comes down to whether it will make more money for WAFC. Eagles and Dockers pay a share of profits to WAFC and they get a really good deal for their home games, so if there fan base drops due to a third team it could really affect revenue to WAFC. You'd think 3 teams make more money for WAFC but not necessarily.
It'll be in W.A and not called Junda-whatever it was (I'm from North America) Probably something relative to Perth followed by the name of something uniquely Australian or not unique at all (i.e, Suns or Giants)
Joondalup is by far the best option. The only other option would be to call it north Perth.
@@beebeenyneeee7692 It would be Joondalup, West Perth or Swan Districts. But Swans is problematic. Some people nickname them black ducks.
Joondalup was a satelite city create about 35 years ago. 28km north of Perth. West Perth moved there but are still called West Perth.
I would go generic and call them the "Northern _____". Being based in North of Perth, and representing Northern/Regional WA, otherwise they are limiting themselves too much.
@@debuthunter5389 The problem is that is that there is nothing to the north beyond Yanchep. Geraldton is 5 hours away. Kalbarri a fishing town. Then you get Carnarvon which is 10 hours from Perth. In time the Joondalup may consider themselves northern. But I suspect they still relate more to west description.
What about New Zealand
Auckland need a ground. Thats the critical first steop.
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NT colours are traditionally white black and brown. You'd mainly want that really. Especially white and mid brown. I'd be thinking of another colour like green or grey instead of black.
Canberra has 4x the population of Darwin - it's a much better choice for team 20
Fold Gold Coast to make way for the new Tasmanian team and keep it at 18
if any team would fold, north melbourne would be the most likely
Another SA team would be good, I don't think we will see another merger any time soon because all the vic clubs are too financially viable
They probably do need to bring the number of vic teams down for fairness and equality in the comp but it’s hard to imagine any teams merging
I dont really buy into that, but relocation is always on the cards, so every time a new team comes up north Melbourne always looks the most vulnerable, but if the point of expansion is to have more teams and draw in more of an audience then why would they want to divide the current audience by taking a vic team away! Theres ten nsw teams in NRL and people seem content with that. I'll think you'll find that sentiment shared in Victoria with AFL
It’s unfair because most vic teams travel interstate maybe 5 times a season, non vic teams travel interstate 10 or so times a season, that’s an immediate advantage
But vic teams, apart from geelong, share their home grounds with severel teams whilst interstate teams have a big home ground advantage sharing thiers with one or none so argument could also be made the good teams capitalise no matter the venue's
another SA team would not be good...
We are the only state that doesn’t have a team named after our city
As a joke... Hawaii.
A 3rd team from either Perth or Adelaide is unlikely. Because if Perth has 3 then Adelaide will want 3 and then we’re up to 21.
Furthermore the cities would host 2 games one week, I game the next. An existing club wouldn’t want to share a weekend with the new club while the other existing club has the next weekend to itself.
It is the most likely scenario for a 3rd Perth and Adelaide team actually.
There no issue with 3 teams in one city. Victoria has 9 teams in 1 city. Even if you use a population:team ratio it makes sense.
A third team from SA is very likely, Norwood.
@@gregrobins5615 maybe for team 21/22. But team 20 will go to WA. It makes far more sense than Adelaide for WA to be first. Theres no urgency for a team in Adelaide. Crows and Port have a fairly equal split while there is a huge imbalance between west coast and fremantle. West coast are far too big and have more members than they have seats. Years long waiting lists people unable to attend. A 3rd team in a west coast dominated area like Joondalup will take tons of pressure off west coast.
Adelaide aren't after 3. They only have 1.3 million. Perth is over 2 million and growing rapidly.
@@gregrobins5615 Not enough people in Adelaide. Perth is over 2 million and growing rapidly. Adelaide is only 1.3 million.
I would have liked to see a 2nd Tasmanian team, with Hobart being the 19th team and Launceston being the 20th team.
Though Darwin in Nothern Territory would be good for those who live up on the Top End.
Maybe a combination between Northern WA/Nothern Territory and North Queensland to be a team from all the Northern parts of Australia's Top End.
If it's a WA team it will be peel or south Perth. NT won't have funding so scrap that. ACT has potential
AAYYYE FREOMAUPPORTER
But dingoes aren’t a native animal
Canberra Raiders would he a better name
LOL already used by the NRL team.
I think NT is most likely, but could even be another SA team possibly
WA is most likely, followed by ACT, imo.
Can’t we just get rid of North Melb?
Im from joondalup and completely oppose an afl team. Next team should be from NT
I have made a similar video to this, not to plug myself but this seems a bit similar. Great video nevertheless tho😊
For the dingoes I mean
Haven’t seen your vid but I’ll be sure to check it out
Quick question why are you forcing afl on commonly known rugby suburbs ?? Gcs was a waste of time and money that far north
Only problem I see with a NT/Darwin team is the thunderstorms they get during June/July. Their stadium would have to be indoor, similar to Marvel
you don't see the small market size and lack of commercial viability as an issue?
weird...
Darwin and Alice don't have the population or corporate money. Even the locals wouldn't pay the prices required to sustain a footy team. There wouldn't be enough corporate boxes, premium seating on match day and they'd struggle to get 10,000. The people aren't wealthy enough to pay $30 for all the home matches. There is too much of a drain on the competition with the Qld and NSW teams... then Tassie and a number of Vic teams. Its not sustainable.
darwin
cairns
canberra
hobart
Send gws to act and add a nt team afl complete
NT not viable as a full-time option.
How could a relocated Victorian team be the 20th team? they would not add another team to the competition.
It’s more likely a merged Victorian team to bring it back to equal numbers at 18 rather than 20