Did the apostle Paul receive the Gospel on Mount Sinai? | Joel Richardson & Michael Rood
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- In his letter to the Galatians, Paul mentions that he went to Arabia. Given that Mount Sinai is located there, did he, like Elijah and Moses, have a personal encounter with Yehováh and receive the Gospel of the Kingdom?
There’s only one person in the New Testament that is accused of teaching against the Torah. During his lifetime and the time we live in now. No one else is quoted. My parents were once Torah Observant Sabbath keeping Believers in Yeshua. They eventually stopped believing that way because of Paul’s letters. The way Paul is taught in the typical church.
This was absolutely devastating to me and broke my heart. My parents were Torah Observant before I was.
There's no doubt that Paul is either getting the worst "read" in scripture or being intentionally misused to create garbage.
He uses it for a little bit of levity now and then, but Michael is dead-on with his "Don't think" ( I have come to destroy the Torah or the Prophets ) -analogy of the western Christian experience.
Think about how many believers today still think that Paul was chosen to minister to the gentiles solely as some sort of divine restitution for his OG Sanhedrin body count.
And while that might be a portion of the total equation, it is NOT the total answer. We understand that ONLY a Pharisee of Paul's age, stature, and learning could be chosen for this task. He's a defender. You're not going to get any rabbinical nonsense past him nor will you find an ally if your goal is to 86 the Torah.
This is a monumental task that has been laid before his feet. And you can read it plain as day that he's instituting some Torah-based stop gaps to keep everyone acceptable with Yeshua and the Most High while he's harvesting the wheat field of this new reality in order to create the definitive baseline for acceptable behavior and doctrine going forward!
I can sympathize with your situation. It's like having a close friend or relative that won't even investigate salvation much less accept it. Still, we pray for them as others prayed for us, trusting that God will see them through.
Isn't it amazing how they fall for it hook, line, and sinker
VVe are FREE to do it, though without legalistic judgments on others. But oh the joy when believers living in harmony do so! I'm so sorry for your emotional loss and pray you will find His own heart to coach you through it with the Spirit of self-sacrificial grace.
@@yishislassieswaiting4748 are you saying you want him to follow the beliefs of paul?
I pray that they find their way back home 🙏🏾✡️✝️🏡
That definitely feels right, Joel. Cool to think and pray over. Blessinngs.
Show me in scriptures where Yehovah came back to Mt Sinai and gave Paul the Gospel.
Acts9:19 And when he (Saul)had received meat ,he was strengthened.Then was Saul certain days with the disciples
which were at Damascus.
That was where he learned the Gospel from the disciples.
Paul taught the torah
Gal. 5:1-4 have you ever read this? What do you think he is saying? He is saying the Torah has been abrogated... Don't be deceived this is not a Jewish rabbi who speaking.. this is a Roman Catholic priest Saint Jerome who rewrote the Bible.. the word of God is what God spoke to Moses and what he spoke through the prophets and what he spoke through Yeshua, after the four gospels there is nothing else.. when Yeshua ascended in Acts chapter 1 it was over he gave his apostles all the commands there was nothing else it was finished
There is no such record that apostle Paul received the Gospel on the Mount Sinai.
Acts 9 : 17 So An·a·niʹas went and entered the house, and he laid his hands on him
and said: “Saul, brother, the Lord Jesus, who appeared to you on the road along
which you were coming, has sent me so that you may recover sight and be filled
with holy spirit.” 18 And immediately, what looked like scales fell from his eyes,
and he recovered his sight. He then got up and was baptized........Since then Paul
started to preach the Good News about the kingdom of God, first in Damascus
following the foot step of Jesus, who said in Luke 4 : 43 "I must also declare the
good news of the Kingdom of God to other cities, because for this I was sent.”
They are not teaching this as doctrine, and claiming beyond a shadow of a doubt that this happened. It's only suggested as a possibility.
Speculations never clear doubts.
Yeshua said you cannot serve God and money.. you can try but never think you will get by with it... Many men of God has fallen away from being spiritually close to God Balaam loved the money Judas loved the money Ananias loved the money and we know where it took them in the end... So if you lose Paul's followers, believers, Tither's, donators... So is The Truth worth it... When you're an old man like I am at 79 money cannot control a true man of God for when you realize you love God more than money nothing else in this world matters...
👍 Thank you ❤️🙏🏻
Acts 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, *and it shall be told thee what thou must do.👈
Wake up fools
Yes, I agree and think Paul went to Mount Sinai.
Interesting
It shouldn't be Angel of God, it should be Messenger of God. The word is the message that became flesh
"anggelos" in Greek can mean either "messenger" or "angel". Only context tells us which meaning makes the most sense.
@@yishislassieswaiting4748 So was the Angel of God, whom was in Jehovah an angel or the messenger?
I wonder if he traced all the same steps of the Israelites in Arabia after the red sea crossing that Ron Wyatt re-discovered almost 2000 years later!
I have read/learned more than once that Qumran or near there was also referrred to as "Damascus".
@@yishislassieswaiting4748 yes of course he was in the deserts of Syria... This is the most satanic teaching today.. to try to justify this heretic teaching..
I have not seen Joel in a good while. It looks like he has lost a lot of weight. I hope it is for good health reasons and not illness.
He was in Arabia and he wrote about Mt Sinai in Arabia. What was he doing in Arabia?
I don't speak Spanish but Our Heavenly Father said everyone put the 🍎s back in the basket of rebellious angels he called false gods in his commandments and there is a pads with wings section of his discipline implemented between all relationships, and a reminder we not suppose to entwine with angels of angelic birds including these ones 👽👽🍎🛸 of the pads without wings section.
Exactly HOW was Paul's words messed up? (6:45)
People have twisted Paul’s writings to believe that they don’t have to be Torah observant. Not the way the Jews do it, but the way Moses said
5:35
Yup
Yeshua is God's image, not God.
Like Joseph wasn't pharo
Conversion?
While I appreciate the potential transformation Paul might have undergone, I cannot agree with the seemingly authoritative assertions by both Mr. Richardson and Rood. In Galatians 1, Paul simply mentions "Arabia" (Strong's G688). Later in Galatians 4, Paul states, "Hagar represents Mount Sinai in Arabia" (Mount Strong's G3735 and Sinai Strong's G4614). In the same book, Paul refers to Arabia in general and Mount Sinai specifically. He could have said, "I went to Mount Sinai in Arabia" if that were the case, but he did not. Nowhere in scripture does it state or imply that Paul visited or received anything at Mount Sinai. While it is possible he did, scripture does not confirm this.
This situation is common in life and Christianity, where individuals make glib and presumptuous claims unsupported by facts. Joel Richardson's assertion is not backed by scripture-a common mistake for new Christians, but also a tactic some use to generate revenue. I hope Joel falls into the former category. Nevertheless, it is a fascinating hypothesis, and I enjoyed the discussion.
It is intriguing to consider that Paul might have instinctively gone to modern Jebel al-Lawz in response to his transformative experience. Jesus completely changed his life and passions in an instant. As a devout, legalistic Pharisee, I can imagine Paul thinking, "Let me get away and be with the Lord," and going to Mount Sinai, only to find that the presence of the Lord was "not there." Perhaps this was the final nail in the coffin of his legalism. Or perhaps the Lord was there and revealed the Truth to Paul. Nevertheless, this is not supported by scripture.
Fascinating possibility. Exactly!
I am a big fan of Joel, so don't take this wrong -
I can't believe Joel said - Paul got knocked off his horse. The scripture does not say Paul was on a horse....or a camel, donkey, chariot, walking, or in a Honda. It simply does not say what his mode of transpertation was. It it one of those traditions that gets repeated. It is like saying the 3 wise men came to the manger.
An apostle is a disciple of jesus who followed jesus during his ministry, who can witness about jewus and his gospel. But saul was persecuting the disciples of jesus when jesus was alive. Therefore saul cannot pretend he is a true apostle of Jésus. He is a liar. No liar is from God. Deal with it.
Well said. I use to follow the entire Bible and believed every word of it. Then I decided to read all of Paul's epistles. Eye opener!! Then I started reading the 54 books of the Apocrypha. Another eye opener to some truths. Well that rabbit hole wasn't enough so I started reading the Lost books of the Bible. Long story short, I decided that I would follow Jesus. Who better to follow? Jesus came to teach the world just what His Father in Heaven wanted the world to know. (my opinion).
The road to damascus IS THE DESERT FOOLS
JESUS SAID "BELIEVE IT NOT"
BLIND FOOLS
It was after Paul, Jesus had John write Revelation.
_Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ._
Who came and made war against the church?
_Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles._
_Acts 8:2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him._
_Acts 8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison._
_Acts 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,_
_Acts 22:3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day._
_Acts 22:4 And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women._
_Acts 22:5 As also the high priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the elders: from whom also I received letters unto the brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished._
_Acts 26:11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities._
_Galatians 1:13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:_
Paul came and did what Revelation (which was written after Paul) recorded that the dragon came and did.
It is Paul who came and made “war with the remnant which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
_Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ._
Oh and ofcoarse the other lying account is totally differant 😂 wake uo
I have never heard such BS in my life.... You belong to a cult and Paul is your cult leader... What happened to Yeshua do you not read him? Do you not read all the commands he gave to Peter and the apostles before he ascended... Why why would he need paul? It does not make sense it's not logical.. if he gave another gospel to Paul that means he betrayed and lied to Peter John and all of his apostles... That never happened.... Nonsense
Paul knew Torah better than most of the great teachers of his day. As the great scholars of today, you can know the Word but not understand the message of the Word. Paul (like all of us) needed the Holy Spirit to illuminate the gospel message throughout the Torah. He then became the tool God used to break it down for the rest of us.
Paul is much more clear in the Hebrew NT. He’s not the heathen, it is clear in his Hebrew choice of words where the Greek could misunderstand his writings and make them slightly different and anti Torah. Paul says multiple times for the believers to adhere to the Torah and accept rebuke from it and respect God and his Torah. To which the Greek changes to “sound doctrine” passages and completely removing the Torah
Calm down please, what did they say that was against scripture because I didn't hear anything
@@darinmeritt3790 will you read 1 Corinthians 8:4-10 and tell me only a heretic Jew would say such things as this.. everything that was a great big No-No with God do not ever do.. eating things offered to Idols, circumcision, it does not matter what day you observe to God, these letters are compromised the Roman Catholic Church used a man named Paul and his letters to bring the religious world into Catholicism and separated them from God's true people and his true religion.. I'm just so amazed the great depth people will go to justify this man Paul
@@V_N_Zadok when you read Paul's letters and you read all the nonsense, verses contradict, and clearly opposed to others biblical scriptures... There's no Jewish Pharisee Rabbi wrote that those are fake letters by Saint Jerome and the Roman Catholic Church that is why the whole gentile world totally rejects everything that is of God is Sabbath his festivals everything because of Paul.... And that was the objective of the Roman Church
No he didn’t. He is a false apostle!