My Flooded Corvette Project Might be DOOMED!
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- My Flooded Corvette Project Might be DOOMED!
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Are we doomed, or do we say F it and run it!? Thanks so much for watching and here's the link to the endoscope since I know you're wondering 😎 amzn.to/3DeBBjq
i say run it
@@nicholasclemmons1923 hell yea man, I'm with you 🤘
Try running it first! 💯% 😎
Yeah F it and run it you got this bro!!!!! you may need to bore the cylinder by chance to get rid of that rust but im not that smart, im sure you got this man!!!
give it several oil changes with cheap oil flush it out
Papa Sabo needs to be a regular on the channel!!!
I agree man! I'm stoked he's been helping out with this one!
Lmao that's exactly what I wanted to say but yeah I agree 😂
Got that mic on him and everything😂 love him
You can tell he’s definitely a seasoned and wise man 💪🏻
@@MichaelSabo Can you get him a new pair of New Balance?:)
Bro u don't realize how much people really love watching you videos......something about you rebuilding these old and neglected vehicles is relaxing.......love the content, bro......
Put diesel fuel in the engine and then drain it out before putting new oil in it
This is an awesome compliment man; thank you for the love. I will continue to make more videos 🤘
Marvel mystery oil in all of the cylinders seems to do the trick. Id fill the oil sumps back up quickly as exposure to air will accelerate rust. Spin it over by hand in a few days to see if it frees up. If not just pull the whole engine and send for a rebuild. Probably want to drain the transmissiin and read diff with that mucb water
Send for a rebuild? This is basket case garage. I expect Mike to rebuild the whole damn thing.
I'd agree here. He can re-build this. It'll be a lot of work though. I had to get my engine out and remove all the gunk that got in when it got flooded.
I'm gonna guess that the crank and the barrings are gonna be rough.
That would be unbelievably lame if he sent it away for a rebuild, i think if sabo made auto content itd be the best auto content on the platform the guy truly has his own unique style and theres nothing like what he does for atvs for cars
I meant to say pull it for a rebuild. I'm sure he will do it himself, but it may need some machine shop work.
Well the good news is there will definitely be part 2..
Facts lol
Couldn’t ask for a more realistic CZcams channel,no lift,doing the work outside your garage and a great dad helping,I’m definitely subscribing,good luck on the vett
Thank you for subscribing and for coming along for the journey Dan!
Hey Mike, I’ve dealt with a lot of flooded engines. Go find bio diesel.
Fill the engine up with diesel instead of oil. Jump the starter and turn the motor over with no plugs for 30 seconds or so. Drain the diesel from the drain plugs and repeat until it’s clear of moisture. The biodiesel will strip all the moisture out! And it’s oily so will not damage bearing on the crank and so on.
Good to know thanks 🙏
Ive heard of this trick before. It works!
@@MetzRc84 100%
I’ve actually ran an engine with diesel oil and drove around the block a few laps on really bad cases. Generally when you have water in an engine you can try and flush it out with oil but it will take a dozen full up and drains and tons of wasted oil to do what a few gallons of diesel would do.
Finally someone mentions diesel
Bio diesel is junk.
Put marvel mystery oil into All of the cylinders,, let it soak a day or two. Drain gas tank refill with new. Rotate engine by hand make sure its free. New plugs then try to start
After doing a brake job on my girls 19 hybrid fusion I'm fully convinced auto makers are making it next to impossible to do stuff without having a proper shop I struggled my ass off
Oh no doubt man, and especially on hybrids!
Hi , once all the goop is drained put the scope in the oil pan and look at the crank , the transmission and the rear end lubricant should be drained and refilled. This will give you a good idea of the total condition. Samcrac has a flood corvette that he is bringing back to life and his was filled with water also
Thank you for the advice man! I am following Samcracs vette as well.
Tech for over 20 years here, bottom end will be fine with a few oil cycles (when up and running). I would definitely remove oil cooler and lines/hoses and flush them. Marvel Mystery oil in the cylinders, let set for a few days and turn over by hand.
You have tons of options, just continue to flush till your happy. LS engines are tanks and can take a lot.
Awesome to hear from someone with experience; thank you for the info and feedback!
@@MichaelSabo make sure to check the transmission fluid and rear end. They'll have vent hoses that could have let water in. It's the same process of flushing everything out.
I'm really enjoying all you do, thanks for the great content.
@MotoChurro no problem man! Thank you again got the info!
When you pulled that second drain bolt my heart just sank....I was like oh no just the sheer amount of water that came out was horrifying... god bless you on this one mike..... and so it begins😮
Mike, I’m sorry to see all that water come out, but I couldn’t help but kinda laugh a little that you just gave zero Fs and let it go lol, that spoke to me big time! Nothing you can’t fix, it’ll be back up and running better than new I know it! Also sure is a pleasure seeing pops over there working with you!
I appreciate the confidence man; guaranteed she will be a runner again! That was all genuine reaction dude lol.
OMG put the plug back in!! I laughed and felt bad at the same time :)
I really didn't think it would keep going at that rate... it just never stopped lmao
@@MichaelSabo Ugh, sorry man. The music was a nice touch though!
just put a thumb in it
I would say now that the water is out put oil in it and run it like that with bariman and sea foam oil treatment and run it for 10 to 20 minutes in your yard giving it some revs and letting the engine get up to temp and after that 10-20 minute run cycle drain the oil and change it again. That will get everything out and clean your engine
Thank you for the tip! I plan to do something like this once I get it fired up.
@@MichaelSabo I hope you see this in time! Use DIESEL FUEL not oil.........Don't rev it up like some bozos are telling you! Let it warm up drain and repeat a couple times..... Saved several flooded engines in my 40 years of being a mechanic.....
@IndianaFarmer-bx7wn thank you for these tips! Awesome hearing from someone with experience; not sure if you've seen episode 4, but I've got diesel fuel in the engine 👌
I have not but I will soon.
I’d like to see what the borescope sees if it’s stuck into the oil drain holes. Wonder if you’d see any rust that way.
Put a little two-stroke oil down the cylinder with a rusty plug rotate the motor with the plugs out and it'll be fine
Change the oil run it for 15 minutes then check the oil filter for metal flakes your not going to do anymore damage in that amount of time so it's worth starting it before you pull it out
Could bend a rod
U should build a Honda 300 fourtrax
Remember Mike the oil would have been touching the engine in the water would have been at the bottom of the pan flush it out fill it with good oil and it'll be fine
Damn dude, that’s a lot of water. I’m both excited to see how this progresses, but also anxious with what that bottom end looks like.
Yeah it's done with that much water
Great project...Good to see pop helping.I know about Floods..Just happen in my town in Vermont.Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the love on my video man!
I say go for it.. Definitely enjoying this series. Looking forward to your next chapter. I live in West Palm Beach, and I am a welder/fab guy. My material supplier is two doors down on Belvedere Rd. from where you picked the Vette up from. I was fun watching you travel and knowing exactly where you were. Stay strong my friend.
Your dad literally looks like an older version of you 🤣 you can tell how similar use are , he must be a very proud man my friend , what I would give to be fixing a dirt bike with my dad again the good old days 👍 love the channel
Damn Mike!😂😢 This will be a great series to watch. Good luck bro. We’re here for ya.
You got this Mike!! I have to say, perfect camera placement with draining the water. We’re here for ya!!🤙👍
I feel with this series (and any other basket case cars) we'll see more toys in Sabo's toolbox never seen before. Shit anything from BCG IS ALWAYS GOLD. Especially coming home from work.
Amazing video! I laughed with you and I cried with you on this video. Rush of emotions. Glad to see you wrenching with your dad. My dad and I did the same this week changing the fuel pump and cleaning the Farn on his Honda Ruckus.
Hell yea man, that's what its all about 🤘
Mike, this is an awesome series bro ! I hope when you fix it completely an I know you will. That you do another one lol .big props for tackling this
Hate to see all that water come out but i did have a good laugh when it just kept going. Insane how much was in there! Great video
I hope venturing into other stuff besides powersports helps your channel grow huge Mike! Your videos have THE best attention to detail. The auction buying suspense is awesome, seeing you work with your dad is awesome, and you’re awesome man! I’ll watch all of your videos no matter what project you choose to take on….
You got this Mike, dont let alittle water scare you, lube the cylinders and put in some good oil and crank it over then change it. Try to get all that sludge out or pull the pan if possible.
Oil catch pan would be a great idea. Walmart sells them.....I'd get sued for that mess where I live.
you got this mike.. you always did a good job rebuilding quads , engines are all the same , you will be fine and you still have about 30k loose before topping the value of the car itself 👍🏼
Mike, when you put the scope in the rusty cylinder you could see a valve was open. Figure out which valve is open, and it’ll tell you which way the water came in. Either exhaust or intake
Reminds me of my first car. This is something you can make possible. Love the video. It reminds me on we took my first car apart and made it better than when we bought it.
Thank you for the love on my video!
Let’s go man. This hot week is finally over and I get to end it with a Sabo video. Love this so far man. Would you ever consider restoring any classic cars as well in the future?
Glad you're loving the series so far Jeff! Right now I don't have plans to do any customer work; I'd definitely want to have a shop setup and indoor storage to tackle that. I'm flattered you'd trust me with your car!
Oh yeah. I meant more just as a personal project for yourself, like your own car. Id trust trust you with my care though. Would love to have you work on my stuff, even if it is fixing rust 😂
Well, the pure water settled to the bottom--hopefully below the crank and other critical parts. How much oil is it suppose to hold? Maybe the water just displaced the oil (or oil water mix) higher in the engine and crank etc. didn't rust.
Waiting for this series to get fully finished successfully (hopefully 😅).keep doing this,u r content is so realistic.
I think you're gonna have to rebuild the motor as well as clean all of the dry sun system out, Then electrical with any luck you'll be good to go.
Pull the motor apart and fix it ….I think you can get it back to good condition under a few grand
They pull the front fender out so they can work in the fuse box and reach the spark plugs
I legit felt your pain. But the faces and music were priceless 😂. I’m routing for you bro. You got this!
Haha, thank you man!
I found your channel this morning, love it so far, subscribed to see you get this car running!!
hey man big fan of the new car content. I've pulled junk yard ls engines for a while now. I've seen some rough ones a few times if the engine is gonna be replaced in the long run. fill that cylinder with some wd-40 and send it they free up eventually.
With the Z51 you have to run the engine until running temp then you can check the oil .Don't overfill it or you will have major issues.
Thank you for the info on this!
I wish my dad was still there to work with me on my toys too... those are precious moment buddy you a lucky man. Enjoy each day with him !!
Exxon Valdez Exxon Valdez!!! That was an incredible amount of fluid in that engine. I was honestly shocked.
My heart sank with all that water I’m hoping for the best for you mike!! And don’t forget to look at that transmissions fluid cause who knows if water got there to just saying but I’m hoping that everything pulls through nice
Thanks for the support man! I have high hopes and I will definitely be checking the other fluids!
Dude, your face watching the oil drain out! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Awesome seeing your pops on the channel 🥰Everytime I decide to work on my camaro pops always comes out lol..memories last forever🙌🏼
100% man, it's awesome having him around for the project.
Pour some Marvel Mystery Oil in that last cylinder. Let it sit overnight, then turn the engine over by hand a few rotations.
Once it pushes the majority of that out, pour in some ATF and let it sit for a couple days so it can soak in really good.
Spin it over by hand again a couple times, put in fresh gas and new spark plugs, and fire it up.
Make sure to put in 93 octane AFTER removing all the gas out of the gas tanks.
Wow didnt expect that. It was topped off with water. The 2 years is what worries me mike. That bottom end cant be good. The mains and the crank cant be good shape. But it was sumerged under that water and that is different. Im not sure man.
Wooo Sabo upload! Getting close to 200k subs! Keep up. the great work Mike!!
Thank you for the love man!
The water separates from oil and it sits at the bottom of the motor. If the oil pan is easily replaceable, it might be worth taking a look. It may not have damage any higher up. I think the engine still has a good shot of working. I'd try to run it as is. The oil hopefully would have helped protect the rest of the engine, even with a little water in it.
Excited to see you and your dad get this thing on the road!
Hell yea man!
Feel you pain!
Nothing money and time can't fix!
I'm sure it will run but not for long maybe flush it with diesel and then multiple oil changes but I'm pretty sure that motor is going to be coming out transmission and diff are more than likely the same.
Bro… you and your pops… reminds me of my pops and me. To much lmao. Thank god for guys like them
Always awesome having the old man around to give a hand!
Another great video!!! Check where the water was sitting, since this is a dry sump system maybe that's not where the crank is, maybe the water has been sitting in the oil holding tank. Kind of like how Yamaha used to use their frames to hold the oil for their dry sump system and the water might not have done as much damage as it could have. You'll have to look at the engine schematics to see what else was in there with all that water.
The question is go stock or upgrade? Can't wait to see what happens!
100% I believe in you Michael!!
Don’t be sad or mad. You’re doing a great job! This job is going to teach you so much. As long as you’re learning things, you’re not defeated keep going you can do it.
I have dealt with the same situation. Fill the motor with diesel and let it sit for 24 hours. The diesel will help dissolve the rust. Once you are at the point to start it, add a quart or 2 of tranny fluid which well help lubricate the internal components and free the rings. It worked for me on several floods
Thank you for this feedback with your experience!
Can’t lie, jealous you and your father have such a solid relationship and work on projects together. I’d get yelled at for even asking to use the garage (god forbid it be used AS A GARAGE) to do even a stereo install, so no possible fluid spills, and don’t think it was packed full with storage either. He seems insanely cool and knowledgeable as well! Should be reg with this project!
The missing screws and stuff makes me think you got bamboozled before you even get any further but we shall see lol
Likely; either way I'm going to get her going 🤘
We’re here for it! 😅
Can you pull the drain pan without pulling the motor?
*_You pulled the 2nd (main drain plug), & my heart dropped!!!_*
_Bro, save yourself the headaches later onnn.. just go balls out & buy a fully built crate motor!_
_Buy once, cry once!_
Haha, I like that - "buy once, cry once"
Its worth fixing. Pull it out, hone it and rering it. Add a cam and valve springs while its out. Go ahead and upgrade the rod bolts and head bolts to arp.
Keep going Mike, This car is going to turn out awesome!!
No doubt man; glad to have people such as yourself along for the ride
Stick mud tyres on it...and race it against the quads
I just bought my first front end damaged C7 2017 grand sport (collector's edition) from co-part. I'm struggling trying to get mine started since the wiring harness is kinda shredded in the front. Either way, hope yours starts up without to much trouble, and will be anticipating future videos. Subscribed! 😎
My reaction when you pulled the second plug was the exact same, pure shock. Also about the cylinder, looked to me like possibly pitting on the cylinder wall, but could also be debris from corrosion. My concern is that metal expands and flakes with corrosion and could build up on the top of the ring and scar up the cylinder or gaul and seize over time. Spray the oil,of choice in there let it soak and then try vacuuming it out and re-inspect, the cylinder prior to any cranking. Love the video, I bore scoped the piston holes on a 2011 f150 before with a Milwaukee scope but that one you bought had a superior image and the articulating end is super useful.
Good call on the corrosion - I will be doing my best to clear all of that out before firing the engine.
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I just saw on your channel Michael! I love cars! I’d love to learn to repair them. I’m 60 years old now in Florida retired. Maybe I should sit with Papa Sabo, and just sip on a cold drink and watch. XO Diane- your new fan and subscriber ❤
Really awesome to see you working with your Dad and I agree with an earlier comment he needs to make more appearances
It's awesome having him here to help out!
Michael, yes a lot of water but be advised the z51 with the dry sump takes 9.9 quarts of oil. Please don’t get discouraged, we have faith in you. You will bring this Corvette back to life, hang in there! As one person said, time for the marvel mystery oil soaking…
Greatly enjoyed the video and the choice language. Brought back memories of spending hours beneath a C3 struggling with frozen nuts (both kinds). Once was struggling with a frozen nut, the ratchet slipped and I hit myself in the nose with a fist wrapped around a ratchet handle. Yes, broken nose! Now I'm your fathers age and a little more cautious. I look forward to the rest of the story.
Dude so cool you got the old man working with you. I say you do the project and make some good memories with your pops. He a great addition to your videos love it!! Thank you for the great video 🔥😎✌️👍
Enjoyed this vid. Dad's. God bless em. Thanks. My dad be right there in a sec for me, my bro, or my friends. He loved Corvette and retired GM. Fingers crossed u have no problems and we see u REALLY PISSING UR NEIGHBORS OFF SOON WITH TEST DRIVE.
Hell yea man; love this attitude! Thank you for the love and support!
Also, I feel like the likely scenario was the exhaust system filled up and possibly backfilled into the cylinder which is why the one cylinder is rusted up. Car may have been parked on a slope possibly? Not sure, but I’d still pull the valve covers and the intake just to check for rust in the top of the heads
You might be right, that could have been the lowest cylinder with an open valve.
@@MichaelSabo that’s what I’m thinking
I live in southern Arkansas next to the Ouachita river, I have a buddy that was riding around in the river bottoms and got stuck in the back water from the river. He left the truck overnight and came back the next day to get it out, he could not find anyone to help him as the truck was now sitting in water up to the middle of the tires. The truck sat there as the water came up and eventually the tuck was completely underwater for the next month. We along with others drove john boats in the bottoms to see the truck but could never find it. When the water finally came down enough to get the truck out with help from many people with trucks and large tractors there was prop marks on the roof of the cab lol. He drained the oil lubed the cylinders, drained the transmission, rear end, and front diff. Let the electrical dry out and a couple weeks later he was back to driving that truck. I believe the year model was a 2000 model Chevy Silverado. Of course that year model did not have all that electrical stuff that your car has. From my understanding the truck is still running and going strong. Wish i could find some pictures of it.. Good luck with your car can't wait to hear it run.
Those GMT800s are the 'retard strength' trucks of the truck world
Im sure the crank and bearings are not happy lol but if it were mine i would get some marvel mystery down the cylinders fill the sump back with it and start spinning the motor by hand very very carefully maybe some kroll oil along with the mystery oil to help with any rust or corrosion worst case you have some great content with a full rebuild that alone makes it worth saving in my book with the following you have. Love your videos man im excited to see more of this car!
Make sure that valve is not stuck before you turn the engine over so the piston don't hit and bend it. Great video. Hopefully it works out OK. Them not draining the water might be a good thing. It means no oxygen in the engine so no rust.
Very good call on the valve; I will definitely be rotating by hand before any power is put to it. Quite a few people saying the same thing about the lack of oxygen possibly resulting in minimal damage. It's going to be interesting.
I agree with everyone Mike you make some of the best Detailed rebuild videos on CZcams. What dose or what did Papa Sabo do for A living? Engineer whatever he did or dose he raised you to be A go getter and todo the Job right! Congratulations on your success and thank you both for your wisdom 🙏
Enjoy seeing the progress, good or bad. Currently weighing my options with a warped head on my Sonic. We shall suffer/wonder together!
Glad you're enjoying man! Good luck with your Sonic!
Mike, if you mix transmission fluid and vacuum pump oil together, they make at fantastic combination to live and remove moisture from cylinders. Fill the bad one and let set two or three days before turning over by hand. Fog the intake as well to help the top end, scope out the sump to see water/oil separation levels if below crankshaft all should be well. Positively check out the remainder of the drivetrain.. I did a Buick 401 CI motor that was 400ft underwear for 4 hours and got it ruining the same day and it never had to be rebuilt..
I feel bad saying this, but that just made this build much more entertaining 😮
Lmao! Thank you James, don't laugh too hard though, there's probably going to be some parts of this Vette in your shop soon 😂
I say F it and run it but you should put the endoscope in the drain bolt hole so maybe you can see the crank and see it’s it all rusted or not. That should give you a good idea of where to go next. Can’t wait till the next episode, keep up the good work!!
Should feel that cylinder with Evapo Rust!
Best solution to guarantee your sanity is pull it out and rebuild it so it’s right. While the engine is out you can then handle all the other issues like electrical and hood issue. Your have the will to make it happen!
I agree that would be the best solution - I still may try to run it after cleaning and assessing it more.
The rust in that one cylinder is just from water makin it past the exhaust valve that engine is perfectly fine it looks really good
I would be purchasing a 2 poster hoist for this project . You could make up some attachments from the jacking points that would let you hoist your quads up 😉. Love your content from here down under Aus 😀
Haha, thank you for the love on my videos man 🤘
I just join your site been watching, i know how its suck to fine road block , i am restoring a 64 vette its become frustrated but stay with it and you wlll enjoy it and you will be glad you did it . Mark from camp verde AZ.
Had a similar situation on my first Corvette a 1967 Vert.. Tropical Storm Doria hit us in NJ in 1971 and all our cars went under including my ‘67 Corvette while I was there. Our detached block garage sat a little higher up but the water was over the dash. As soon as the water receded and the Sun started drying up things I went to work on it. I had just turned 20 years old so my knowledge of Corvettes was limited. I jacked the car up first and took the drain plug out of the oil pan and like your situation on your second drain bolt water being heavier then oil came out crystal clear which was surprising. Being under the car I moved the oil catch pan out of the way and let the water drain out on the concrete floor until I started to see some darker color in the water I then slid the pan back under and saved myself from creating a mess. When it completely drained I took the cannister oil filter down next. The ‘67 Corvette from the factory still didn’t come with a spin on filter back then. I then dropped the car off the stands and started taking out all of the spark plugs and went inside the car just to crank it a few times and the pistons pushed all kinds of water out the spark plug holes. I then gave it 5 quarts of new oil and a new replacement oil filter for the cannister. I then replace the same plugs back into the cylinders. Went in the car and started the car and the car ran great. It didn’t hurt a thing and I was running it around as I was rebuilding it but changed the oil and filter once again about a week later being I thought it was a good idea. I took the complete interior out of it and sat on a Plastic Milk Crate for awhile. Checked the gas tank and lucky for me there was no water in the gas tank. I ordered all new gauges and clock,tack and speedometer from Chevrolet and pulled the dash out and cleaned up all the wiring with CRC back then and Cue Tips. One of the local garages knew a lot about 4 spd Muncie Transmissions and knew right where to drill under the trans so he could drain the trans for me,tap it and insert a small drain plug. Water surely came out with the 90 weight gear oil used in the trans. Refilled it and was good to go. On my own back then I purchased a suction gun to suck out the gear oil in the rear end and refilled it. Back in the day it was a lot easier to handle a job like this. Not any Computer Control Cars then. I give you a lot of credit taking this on but $22k you sure took a chance. My car never burned a drop of oil I should mention. Sorry I sold that car about a year after I fixed it up but this fellow from another town kept bugging me to buy it and the newer C3’s were out there drawing my interest so I sold him that car for $1800. I had paid $2150 for at 3 years old in 1970. I then purchased a like new 2 year old 1969 427-435hp 4 Spd Tri-Power Blue Coupe with just 11k miles on it for $3100. I still own 4 Corvettes today all coupes a C2,C3,C5 and C6. I noticed your C6 sitting in the garage. I am going to follow up on your progress and see if you made anymore video’s in your project. At 72 I could only think about projects today.
Just found your channel, really awaiting to see how this packs out!
For that cylinder, I do engine work, there doesn’t seem to be any major pitting there from that video. Putting some oil and solvent in there and slowly rotate the engine will probably get it free if it isn’t moving, but considering the car rocked back and forth while in gear in your first video in this series the engine seems free.
Those piston rings will likely take a bit of a hit polishing that rust off, but that liner still looks pretty decent. That cylinder might burn a bit of oil and might be a few psi low on compression, but I doubt you’re ever gonna notice it.
It’ll most likely run just fine!
Just turn it over a bunch with the starter motor, a very small amount of oil in the cylinders, all the plugs installed and the coils disconnected to get most of the ‘polishing’ done at low RPM and she’ll rip!
I would love to own one of these, but here in Europeland they’re unfortunately really hard to get by!
Crate motor at this point. Pull that one and rebuild it from bottom up and either turbo or supercharger. Use all forged internals and just make it a bad ass 700 to 800hp monster
Love the content man ! Don’t give up yet we gonna get her running
Thank you for the love Manuel!
Looks like a motor/trans pull in your future and full rebuild to be safe. OUCH!!!
Keep doing what you doing. Water sat in bottom so in a dry sump situation you may get lucky.
crazy how much water was in there haha , can't wait to see what happens next !
Fill all cylinders and the crankcase with marvel mystery oil as well! May be able to get by with that and slowly working it back and forth if it’s seized