i5 4690k vs i7 4790 - Tested in 13 Games - With RTX 3070

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024

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  • @hardwaretested2795
    @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +8

    If this video helped you, consider subscribing! :)

  • @hardwaretested2795
    @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +2

    Timestamps:
    ➤ Red Dead Redemption 2: 0:00
    ➤ GTA 5: 1:18
    ➤ Battlefield 1: 3:19
    ➤ Battlefield 4:23
    ➤ CSGO: 5:25
    ➤ Forza Horizon 4: 7:02
    ➤ Forza Horizon 5: 8:35
    ➤ Metro Exodus: 9:53
    ➤ PUBG: 11:05
    ➤ Rainbow Six Siege: 11:46
    ➤ Rise of the Tomb Raider: 12:58
    ➤ Shadow of the Tomb Raider: 13:59
    ➤ The Witcher 3: 14:45

  • @nikolaswozniak6008
    @nikolaswozniak6008 Před rokem +23

    I'm considering changing my i5 4690k to an i7 4790k. In most games the processor is running at 100% and I'm missing those 10 fps for smoothness, while at the same time the graphics card at 70% usage. I mostly play Warzone and other shooters.

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +4

      I think it will be a pretty good upgrade!

    • @IanNubbit
      @IanNubbit Před rokem +4

      It's The price for me ~$100 for it on ebay right not, most more is hard to pull the trigger on, I'm thinking upgrading to a new platform all together will be what I upgrade too

    • @xtremejim5157
      @xtremejim5157 Před rokem

      @@IanNubbit still pricey on your country, I got mine for $40

    • @IanNubbit
      @IanNubbit Před rokem +1

      @@xtremejim5157 I went with a 4690K from a 4440. It was only $25. If a 4790K was $40 I would have done that

    • @lonewolfnomadic3403
      @lonewolfnomadic3403 Před rokem +5

      if you can afford the price then do it
      but if its price too high I suggest you buy new motherboard + processor

  • @RailithicEmporthus
    @RailithicEmporthus Před rokem +6

    That metro test sure looked like the v sync was turned on for the i5?

  • @Austo-zg4tn
    @Austo-zg4tn Před rokem +4

    Thank you so much for this very informative in helping me decide 🎉

  • @dannyBtech
    @dannyBtech Před rokem +6

    great video i always said hyperthreading is usefull, next video should be x58 6 core as they are great value for money , im running x5660 4ghz 16gb ram gtx 1080 and its running like a champ

    • @razor19829
      @razor19829 Před rokem +3

      me too, x5675 gigabyte udr3 at 4.0ghz,even 2022,they perform very well

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +1

      Nice! Was my first gaming pc. Used the X5675 on 4.0 GHz with a GTX 970. Started with the GTX 660, but upgrades it fast to a 970.

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +2

      I have a X58 motherboard laying around with a i7 970, so a new video about the X58 is coming soon!

    • @chase7974
      @chase7974 Před rokem

      It's not usually about cores anymore, it's about IPC. A 12 gen i3 is going to destroy any of those older 6 core CPUs easily.

    • @dannyBtech
      @dannyBtech Před rokem +1

      @@chase7974 dude im well aware a modern qaud core would beat this ancient hex core , but considering it costs about 10 percent of a 12th gen i3 then im ok with that ,and while i know ipc is important so is cores , theres many cases where these old hex cores beat much newer qaud core cpus ands its because of the amount of cores these old xeons are still decent enough ,im upgrading to a 5900x at some point this year and guess what that cpu destroys any off those 12th gen i3s :)

  • @Netbase2000
    @Netbase2000 Před rokem +7

    Exaclty what I wanted, ty

  • @NoThisIsntMyChannel
    @NoThisIsntMyChannel Před rokem +9

    4:47 BF5 this can't be right
    i5 4690k - 27 fps in average
    I7 4790 - well over 100 fps in average

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +5

      From what I found while testing these games, I found that BF5 really likes more cores and threads. It's a really big difference, I agree, but for the tests I used the same settings and hardware, so for BF5 you probably really want to have a cpu with at least 8 threads.

    • @Titanic4
      @Titanic4 Před 9 měsíci

      Certain games are able to take advantage of hyperthreading feature of the CPU. Battlefield V seems to be perfect example of that. The difference in framerate is just insane.

    • @NoThisIsntMyChannel
      @NoThisIsntMyChannel Před 9 měsíci

      @@Titanic4 even then it should be 2 times at best, and not nearly 4 times

    • @AlexIsYurMum777
      @AlexIsYurMum777 Před 6 měsíci

      this was my reaction, almost made me upgrade ever so slightly

  • @SKYJAKER
    @SKYJAKER Před rokem +5

    Can you show graph "frametime"?

  • @theaskingman
    @theaskingman Před 8 měsíci

    Do you have video testing for this processor but combine with GPU 1060 3gb or 6gb?

  • @twuuust
    @twuuust Před rokem +3

    hi! I have a question, is it worth it in 2023 to assemble a set of i7 4790k and rtx 3070?. Is a better processor and worse graphics card worth it?

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem

      I would opt for a better cpu or for a cheaper GPU if you don't have the budget

    • @fakeaccount3415
      @fakeaccount3415 Před rokem

      My setup same i7 4790 with 3070 very laggy. Only 4k works for me

    • @celtshaun1427
      @celtshaun1427 Před 10 měsíci

      @@fakeaccount3415 My system is triple 1080p with a 4670k and I have just acquired a 3060, The idea is that I cannot warrant going for a whole new system currently so my line of thinking is to try and get another 12 to 24 months out of this 7 year old Z97 system, I have found that the 4670k is bottlenecked at single 1080p on Ultra settings but is ok at the 3 screen resolutions at high or very high, So I have just gone and purchased a 4790 to drop in this system, I never went for the 4790k as you just don't know wether it's been thrashed for the last 7 years on an overclock so the 4790 should be a safer purchase at the cheaper price if £45 with free postage, From the Video I am thinking this should give me a somewhat decent balance going forward and hopefully give me the overhead to play the triples at Ultra at above 60fps levels.

  • @Seyyarkokorec
    @Seyyarkokorec Před rokem +4

    i7 3770 vs i5 4690k which is better

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem

      I would say that the i5 4690k is just a little bit better, especially when you overclock it.

  • @Wushu-viking
    @Wushu-viking Před 2 měsíci

    Battlefield V.. That's insane what difference HyperThreading on just 4 cores makes! (4 non-ht cores is barely playable here)
    CS:GO and Rainbow Six.. few of the titles where non-HT can give a slight advantage.

  • @xDAKPRODUCTIONSx
    @xDAKPRODUCTIONSx Před rokem +1

    Does the fact that the 4690k is at 100% cpu usage often affect smoothness in games compared to the i7 where its usually under 80%? At least for me on my 4670k when it runs at 100% cpu usage is feels less smooth and aiming can feel a bit unresponsive even if the fps is good. So even if the fps is around the same will the 4790 running at below 80% cpu usage just feel better to play vs the 4690 running at 100% or like in the 90% range with spikes to 100%?
    Doing some testing I can manipulate the results by looking at certain areas on a game with locked 60 fps 70% CPU usage then looking in another area with a lot of npcs and my fps stays at around 60 but my 99% fps drops on the graph shown on the GeForce experience graph drops from 50 fps to 30 fps when the CPU gets to 100%
    Its like the 99% fps is the true fps and the displayed fps is just a fake number and when the CPU usage is high the difference between the 99% fps and displayed fps gap gets bigger and the game feels worse
    I just learned about how 1% lows and 0.1% lows so that probably answers most of my questions on this

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem

      At 100% usage you have, most of the time, lower 1% and 0,1% lows, so that will give stuttering. Hope that answers your question!

  • @ScottX68000
    @ScottX68000 Před rokem +1

    I dont understand why all these Battlefield comparisons on youtube have such poor fps. I run a 4690K with a GTX 1070 on Ultra 1080p and I get almost flawless 60fps v-synced, processor is clocked at 4.4ghz.

  • @celtshaun1427
    @celtshaun1427 Před 10 měsíci +1

    My system is triple 1080p with a 4670k and I have just acquired a 3060 12GB, The idea is that I cannot warrant going for a whole new system currently so my line of thinking is to try and get another 12 to 24 months out of this 7 year old Z97 system, I have found that the 4670k is bottlenecked at single 1080p on Ultra settings but is ok at the 3 screen resolutions at high or very high, So I have just gone and purchased a 4790 to drop in this system, I never went for the 4790k as you just don't know wether it's been thrashed for the last 7 years on an overclock so the 4790 should be a safer purchase at the cheaper price of £45 with free postage, From the Video I am thinking this should give me a somewhat decent balance going forward and hopefully give me the overhead to play the triples at Ultra at above 60fps levels. The 3060 is replacing a 5 year old 1060 6GB card.

  • @ABDULMALIK-sj4ud
    @ABDULMALIK-sj4ud Před rokem +2

    How did you locked the 4790 at 4Ghz ?

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +4

      Probably the motherboard in combination with good cooling and PSU. I didn't overclock or anything and the bios of the motherboard is set on default.

    • @blakedmc1989RaveHD
      @blakedmc1989RaveHD Před rokem +1

      4790k's stock clocks is 4ghz

    • @jasont6287
      @jasont6287 Před rokem

      Set all cores to turbo max ie 4ghz on the bios as i have my i7 4790

  • @vincentma1618
    @vincentma1618 Před rokem +11

    Interesting how 0.1% lows are different with different games, some with the 4790K being better and some with the 4790k being worse

    • @iamtaran2649
      @iamtaran2649 Před rokem +4

      Its not 4790k

    • @brenohenrique9743
      @brenohenrique9743 Před 10 měsíci

      yeah but the ones i7 is worse are marginal differences where as with i5 the difference is huge when it's inferior.

  • @Radek0582
    @Radek0582 Před 9 měsíci

    Hello
    I got 4690K, 16 GB RAM, RTX 2060.
    What do you think about playing Baldurs Gate 3 on this system? Is the upgrading to 4790K worth 90$ ?
    4790K got more threads which I ve read are very important in today games (8 threads vs 4 th)

    • @juanmassiosare9850
      @juanmassiosare9850 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Of course you could play Baldur's Gate 3 with your i5 4690K, even more so if you have it Overclocked, but it is undeniable that more and more games like the CPU to have more cores or at least more threads, the detail is that the solution of a CPU with 4 cores/8 threads has been left further behind/more in the past, since the minimum recommendation today would be to go after a 6 core/12 threads processor (Sweet Spot in Price-Performance) and those players who can, then go for CPUs with 8 cores/16 threads.
      * What resolution/Hz does your Monitor have? What other games do you play?; Where are you from? Do you have more budget than those 100 USD?.
      * In this video you can see Baldur's Gate 3 being viewed with an i5 4590/16GB DDR3/RX 570-4GB at 1080p/Low.
      czcams.com/video/V76sG3vZFGc/video.html
      * At 1080p/Low it seems that the RX 570-4GB is not trying very hard, perhaps on the one hand the lower graphic load and on the other that the 4 Cores of the i5 are constantly at 95-100% load, so it is evident that the game needs a CPU with more cores and/or more threads.In this case it does not consume much more than 3GB Vram and in terms of RAM, 10-11GB of consumption is observed (the game, background tasks, Windows).
      * With the 4 cores of the i5 at 95-100%, the framerate does not reach a stable 60fps, in reality you get a fluctuating framerate, as well as a more unstable/changing frametime (I am referring to that dynamic/moving graph that looks like an Electrocardiogram ).
      What I would do is (if it were possible), resell that PC (save SSD/HDD, PSU, GPU, Case perhaps, Cooler-CPU if you were a good one, etc.) with the idea of ​​getting some money (maybe you prefer to give away the PC or put it in another area of your house); After that I would add more money to be able to build a new PC with more powerful, more recent and more future-oriented components.
      * This is a PC with an AMD Ryzen 5 2600 processor (as if it were an i7 4770/4790 but with 6 cores/12 threads instead of just 4 cores/8 threads), 32GB DDR4 and an RTX 3050 (close to your RTX 2060 ).
      czcams.com/video/FhiRvdFOg0s/video.html
      Observe the fps, the workload on the 12 CPU threads and the smoothness in the Frametime. That Ryzen 5 2600 is an "old" model, nowadays at least (new) you could find a Ryzen 5 4500 (which is more than the Ryzen 5 2600/2600X/1600AF), a Ryzen 5 3600 (which is more than the previous) or a Ryzen 5 5500 (similar or a little more than the R5 3600).
      * Generalizing a Ryzen 5 3600 = Ryzen 5 5500 = Ryzen 5 5600G = Intel i5 10400 = i5 10400F.
      If by chance apart from your PC games you are interested in emulating consoles like PS3/X360/Switch/3DS etc, at least go for the AMD Ryzen 5 3600/5500, but preferably go fordirectly for a Ryzen 5 5600 or the R7 5700X (depending on your budget ).
      At Intel I would recommend looking at Motherboards with socket 1700 and at least DDR4 ram (cheaper than DDR5 ram) and there putting at least an Intel i3 12100/12100F and preferably an i5 12400/12400F; Of course, on both platforms there are more powerful CPUs, with more resources, but also more expensive, so it will depend on your budget.
      * Intel i3 12100/12100F have 4 Cores/8 Threads but it is very powerful and very capable of taking advantage of your RTX 2060 and other more powerful GPUs as well.
      I'm talking to you about the Ryzen 5 3600 or the Ryzen 5 5500 because you could find them for 80-100 USD (new), it seems to me that it would also be the case of the i3 12100F (F = it does not have integrated graphics). IF you want more power you have to pay more for the Ryzen 5 5600/5600X/R7 5700X and the Intel i5 12400/12400F.
      * That i7 4790/4790K for 90-100 USD should be your LAST OPTION (only if the world closes completely to you); I think it's a good time to change the Platform.

    • @Radek0582
      @Radek0582 Před 8 měsíci

      @@juanmassiosare9850
      thanks a lot for such detailed explanation!
      one week ago I just upgraded to 32 GB RAM and 4790K - at a local store
      I am playing BG3 for ~15 hours now, looks very smooth (at max settings), but still on Act One. Which software do you use to show all parameters of CPU and GPU?
      I have also to mention that I am running at 1920 x 1200 (got 16:10 monitor)
      Probaby in year or 2 I will change the platform. All in all the whole new PC should cost ~1500$ plus some 2K monitor
      I am from East Europe - Poland. Usually I dont play many modern games. Most often roguelike ASCII game Adom. I got also driving wheel Logitech G920 on which sometimes I play Dirt Rally.
      I got also one year old gaming laptop Ideapad 3 - RTX 3060, i5-12450H, but I prefer the PC
      Maybe I will record some video

    • @juanmassiosare9850
      @juanmassiosare9850 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Radek0582 ...In that case you did the right thing, with that i7 4790K it is more than enough for the uses/games in which you are interested, also it does not seem to need much more performance, so that new more powerful PC will have to wait a few more years. Greetings from Mexico, in the South of the USA.Have a great year 2024!

    • @Radek0582
      @Radek0582 Před 8 měsíci

      @@juanmassiosare9850
      Happy new year!
      I like also the music from BG3 as like the actors voices

  • @harveybrooks1460
    @harveybrooks1460 Před rokem +3

    I had a i5 4670k and it was alright for gaming but had massive stutters. Just got a i7 4790 yesterday second hand and i can tell it is way better. Specs: i7 4790, gtx 1070 founders edition, 2x8gb 16gb gskills ddr3, 1tb seagate hdd, samsung 500gb ssd. My rig is a asus rog g20aj mini rig. Plays like a champ and still love haswell. This is my second haswell along with my second time owning a i7 4790 and it never let me down once.

    • @sandboy5880
      @sandboy5880 Před rokem

      Dated setup there buddy xd

    • @samothbr
      @samothbr Před rokem

      ​@@sandboy5880Still rocks btw.

    • @sandboy5880
      @sandboy5880 Před rokem

      @@samothbr
      Dunno.
      Maybe in 1080p but I wouldn't say it's "rocking".

    • @r3tr0x98
      @r3tr0x98 Před rokem +1

      ​@sandboy5880 i mean who cares if it's outdated,upgrades can be done anytime,and for a budget these specs second hand are extremelly good

    • @harveybrooks1460
      @harveybrooks1460 Před rokem

      @r3tr0x98 yup. Only spent $300 for all parts and pc. Runs game pretty well yet.

  • @tameruzun
    @tameruzun Před 3 měsíci

    Most of the people are looking at fps, but I'm looking at the cpu temperatures and I do not like what I see on i5 4690K. There is defo something wrong with those temps man, its like almost 20 degrees more hotter on 4690K constantly. So this will make my go buy a 4790 for sure for my new setup build.

  • @10WA
    @10WA Před rokem +2

    Stock comparison the 4790k does have a 500mhz advantage that helps a little in most games. Both should OC to around 4.6ghz on air and really perform the same since no games will utilize the i7 hyper threading. I'd still take the i7 because outside of games it smokes the i5.

    • @ToveriJuri
      @ToveriJuri Před 5 měsíci +2

      What are you on about? It's only a 4-core processor. plenty of games already utilize the hyperthreading. The Hyperthreading alone will allow people to run some modern games better.

  • @chikalikedis8170
    @chikalikedis8170 Před rokem +2

    Should i get a i5 4690k or the i7 4790?

  • @SaadAhmed-s9c
    @SaadAhmed-s9c Před měsícem

    But why in some games i5 getting more fos

  • @agungwijayaofficial5229
    @agungwijayaofficial5229 Před 7 měsíci

    Why is the fps that the i7 4790 gets higher than the i7 4790k series.
    and also why the i7 4790k cpu usage reaches 100% while the i7 4790 is not that high

  • @dincaandrei
    @dincaandrei Před rokem +4

    So doing an upgrade from i5 4690k its out of the question...
    They are both top of the line for 4th gen as i5 and i7
    Curently the i5 runs at 4Ghz with OC from the motherboard,Z97 PC Mate...
    If its possible,can you do a benchmark in Assetto Corsa Competizione with this configuration?

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, if you want to upgrade, I should just buy an AM4 setup. I don't have the i5 4690k anymore, so unfortunately I can't do it with Competizione

    • @dincaandrei
      @dincaandrei Před rokem +1

      @@hardwaretested2795I understand,thank you.
      I did found an i7 4790 non k for 56 €...if i will get 10-15 fps more,its fine...A full upgrade isnt possible now,i just got a RTX 2060...and thats all i could do till next year..😢

    • @vincentma1618
      @vincentma1618 Před rokem +3

      I went from i5-4670k to i7-4790k a month ago. Definitely a difference in eSports, Fortnite 0.1% and 1% lows improved greatly.
      Try to get a K series and OC it. Mine is a beast at 4.8ghz at 1.3v

    • @Konstantin2013
      @Konstantin2013 Před rokem

      @@BravoSixGoingDark, а может 5950x взять?

  • @lateupload
    @lateupload Před 10 měsíci

    i use pentium G3250 should i upgrade to i7 4790?

    • @juanmassiosare9850
      @juanmassiosare9850 Před 8 měsíci

      Would an i7 4790 be cheap or expensive?....What GPU do they have? What PSU do I have? What Monitor/Hz do you have? What do you play?

    • @JonesyTheCat
      @JonesyTheCat Před měsícem

      Yes

  • @vyrmathrax1069
    @vyrmathrax1069 Před 7 měsíci

    add star citizen to your test list please

  • @aisuotome1413
    @aisuotome1413 Před rokem +1

    Next i5 8600k vs i7 8700

    • @hardwaretested2795
      @hardwaretested2795  Před rokem

      If I get my hands on one of these CPU's, I will make a video about it.

  • @masterkaiserterry
    @masterkaiserterry Před 7 měsíci

    I bought a rx 6700 XT in ali. And I think the i7 4790 couldnt handle it. But I See that it could.
    So the Change from 1660 to RX 6700 would go smooth 😊🤓

  • @davidillesca50
    @davidillesca50 Před rokem

    ram? ddr 3?

    • @ToveriJuri
      @ToveriJuri Před 5 měsíci

      Yes DDR3 is max you can go with this generation of CPUs

  • @martinlinden4129
    @martinlinden4129 Před rokem +9

    Rip 4 c and 4 t its been a good ride

  • @nashcomp
    @nashcomp Před rokem +1

    Just stick with full hd or even hd, gen4 did awesome job when it pops out in 2014 when majority monitors are in 768p.

  • @user-gv5qo2xc1f
    @user-gv5qo2xc1f Před 3 měsíci

    Я думал жители Европы могут себе позволить менять комплектующие каждые 2 года

  • @elbruneke8850
    @elbruneke8850 Před 8 měsíci

    For gtx 1050ti??

  • @marclo1
    @marclo1 Před rokem +2

    El i5 estaba a punto de explotar, 78° grados de temperatura, eso es muchísimo para ese procesador.

  • @chelickkk5559
    @chelickkk5559 Před rokem

    RLY?! on my i3 4170 gtx 960 2gb 130fps in this benchmark 5:29

  • @КриничнийМихаил

    ну да ну да , каким боком в he Witcher 3 170 фпс такого быть не может

  • @valenalvarez6571
    @valenalvarez6571 Před rokem

    alguien sabe por que batelfield habia tanta diferencia y en el resto no?

    • @JoseCarlos-ez5zp
      @JoseCarlos-ez5zp Před rokem

      Se debe a que Battlefield le saca provecho a los 8 hilos del procesador. En cambio hay juegos que no los aprovechan como debería de ser.

    • @valenalvarez6571
      @valenalvarez6571 Před rokem

      @@JoseCarlos-ez5zp ahh y eso pasa con el motor de Ubisoft? Va con todos los juegos de Ubisoft tengo problemas que con el resto no

  • @mikmoody3907
    @mikmoody3907 Před 9 měsíci

    1600 mhz ram is the bottlekneck here, not tha cpu's.

  • @mati2626
    @mati2626 Před rokem

    BT 5 natural enemigo del i5

    • @pigbenis9068
      @pigbenis9068 Před rokem

      it kinda dont make sense, 100fps of difference.

  • @thewindwhisperer6839
    @thewindwhisperer6839 Před rokem +1

    With Witcher 3 i5 big Problems Like :)

    • @jacekszymaniuk1394
      @jacekszymaniuk1394 Před rokem +1

      Agree, I must replace my i5 4690k to i7 4790k and much better now. I found i7 is much colder then i5.

    • @milans.637
      @milans.637 Před rokem

      @@jacekszymaniuk1394 Of course i7 core is always much better and more future proof chip, or it was like that when they were both on 4 cores, modern i5's have 6 to 10 cores, so there is not big difference between i5 and i7, like this was case from 2009 to 2017 when they were both quad core CPU-s.

  • @AhmedAli-bl6dv
    @AhmedAli-bl6dv Před rokem +1

    Bottleneck

  • @labanana7933
    @labanana7933 Před rokem

    4xxx bottle neck