The Fiery History of BEAUDESERT
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2023
- Without a doubt, Beaudesert has one of the most varied and fascinating histories of any town or region I have yet explored in Queensland. It does however rather seem to be beset by fire though...
And isn't it odd that 'fire' and 'fiery' are written so differently?
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I grew up in Logan village, you could hear the trains blowing their whistles in the middle of the night as they came up to crossings along the track. I was 13 when they stopped the trains. They ripped up the train tracks, but left the bridges. Then they rebuilt the tracks for special passenger cars and then ripped them up again. Now they are building a walking trail from Bethania to Logan village called a “rail trail” linking to the new township of Yarrabilba
One would think a fire station might have built earlier.
Lol
It burnt down.
Something I should mention is that trains continued to run on the Beaudesert line until 2004 under Beaudesert Rail, however the people at the top didn't know anything about running a railway. All they saw was run train make money, the track was terrible (which actually caused a derailment) the coal used for the steam locomotive was trash and some of the pipes on the steam locomotive was made from the same material used in a garden hose (it's ment to be made from copper). Leading to BR disbanding in 2005, the diesel was sent to Cairns for use on local cement trains, the steam locomotive and coach 1416 would be sent to the Mary Valley rattler and still operate there, and the rest of the coaches went to the Zig Zag railway.
One of the bridges burning down was the nail in the coffin. I remember we had a party booked on the McDonalds carriage a week after the train shut down. We were devastated
That's it, I'm now pronouncing Beaudesert French-style from now on. I will not be stopped!
Could push land prices up if you did ;)
I live in Melbourne and in 1991 (approx) I flew to Brisbane to travel on a steam special to Beaudesrt when it was still operated by QR.
In the early ‘70s I read all the James Bond books and one made a reference to Beau Desert in Jamaica. I visited the Gold Coast with my parents and saw there was a Beaudesert which reminded me of the James Bond books. Not really relevant but was important to a 14 yo.
In a recent visit I visited Rathdowny and was fascinated by the tramways run by Red Freds, they ran to two destinations, I forget the other one. I think they were municipal tramways operated like the Aramac tramway.
Hi Rob, love your videos.
I actually live on Sandy Creek road and was so excited to see you filming!!
I wanted to pull over and say g'day but didn't want to interrupt.
Great video
You should have done so, am always happy to have a chat!
To your comment at 19:11, it truly is a shame that a railway line such as the Bethania - Beaudesert line was closed only 26 years ago, considering the need for fast & reliable public transport in our region today. Realistically, the original alignment couldn't be used by the electric trains of today, but still even some sort of light rail system would of been great to connect the region's towns together. Here's hoping that the proposed Salisbury-Beaudesert line gets started soon.
I found this video today and I felt compelled to watch as I've been living in beaudesert for the past 5 years now. Thank you for the history lesson of beaudesert. I've come to love this town 😊
Must be a different town these days compared to 15-30 years ago. I spent half my life there and hated the place. I'm not a city boy at all, it's just an absolutely trash town with, back then, majority trash people with no transport options. Much better towns in Queensland with better facilities, better countryside, better nature and better transport. Ie Gympie.
I shit you not the career goals of a good portion of my classmates at BSHS was legitimately to collect centrelink cheques and have kids. Maybe they've gentrified the place, haven't driven back through there for 3 years now
My home town.
It used to be known as "The Closest Country Town to Brisbane"
The KFC used to be in the centre of town... ways to go swimming at karrie. Always great feed on the way home
Thanks Rob, another informative video of the surrounding area near home.
I spent 19months at boys town. Not the happiest time but better than home
Not far from Beaudesrt, 30 min drive there is a place called Kooralbyn....... Kerry Packer, the country's richest man use to stay in the mid 80s used to stay and play polo and golf, (At the Center of Scenic Rim)
When growing up all the older people pronounced it as B'desert rather than the Beauuu-desert everyone seems to use now
worked with a young lady whose family was from Tamrookum way going back to the 1800's, she mock me when I'd say Beau-desert. She also pronounced it B'desert.
Sensing a running theme in this video, but I can't quite put my finger on it 🔥🔥🔥
I have many fond memories of the Beauie Show from when I was a kid. It was like the Ekka in miniature. Not as crowded or hectic, which I liked, and it was closer and cheaper, which my parents liked. Great video, I was surprised to learn about the connection to the English manor house. Apparently there's an adventure campsite on the remains of the estate now.
My mum and I ran the dog section of the beauy show for around 30 years. Seen a lot of changes there
Beaudesert's had a lot of fires over its history. 🔥
The Beaudesert fire bug🔥
Another great video thanks! I feel like old buildings burning down has become a bit of a theme in your videos. It seems to come up often.
Another informative film thanks Rob
I was born in Beaudesert so was my sister. My grandmother was very well known in Beaudesert years ago and done a lot to help this town. 👍 it good to see some history.
@datwistyman thanks! It is a truly fascinating town with a great future ahead of it.
Love your shows have subscribe. Thank you rob
Thank you!
Thoroughly enjoying your videos, Rob
The railway corridor from Beaudesert is still owned by the State Government and I agree, it should be re-opened for passengers as well as produce.
Parts of it are already converted into rail trail for bikes, and walking.
Bromelton will be the new station for freight.
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Love the knowledge you share Rob. A lot of fires in that town. Pity
A Tourist steam Train used to run on weekends to Beaudesert from Logan Village in the early 2000's.
I imagine fire insurance premiums must be rather high in Beaudesert
Maybe I'm confusing your humour with Russell Coight but I full expected 'The reason why it was known as a place of parrots was because..' "the place was full of parrots" 😂
Another great video, thankyou. When the Kassulke's had the Railway Hotel they served the coldest beer in Beaudesert , my dad would always stop there after the calf sale during the 60's and 70's at those yards you were at. Dad also told me Monsignor Owen Steele was the most decent man, it did not matter your religion , race or whatever, he treated everyone equally. Some of the Irish catholics from Beenleigh settled out Kerry way , due to a bit of " persecution " from the German settlers. The Duke and Duchess of York stayed at the Joyce family property, " The Overflow" which is now a winery on the road to Boonah. As a child if i misbehaved my parents threatened me i would be taken to Boystown, Thank goodness they never followed through .Keep up the great work Rob.
@anitaandjiml8167 thanks for the very interesting feedback and historical insights.
my grandma grew up in/near beaudesert. when I was about 5 she took me for a drive out there. and she loved telling this story. apparently just before we got there I started sobbing. And she asked me what was wrong and I said, “I don’t want to go to the desert - it’s full of lions and tigers!” TRUE STORY
Oooh I never knew Beaudesert had a train station...I so wish it was still running. Thanks for another great video 😊
The State Government still owns the railway corridor!
@@chuckanoo1455 to be honest I've been to Beaudesert maybe twice in my life and the last time was over 10 years ago 😅 so I don't know much about it lol. Thank goodness for Walkaboutwithrob as now I can go to work with random facts about towns and act like I'm not a total introvert and homebody who hardly goes anywhere 🤣🤣
This was great. The depth of the lagoon is crazy. I guess the kids didn't have much else to do but eat ice blocks and drink beer 😂 that church is beautiful...I'm glad you were a busybody 😊
yeah that was a knowledge filling up fun time there ....that going on walkabout for a day which took just about anyone else 3 days to complete ..
Hi Rob. That was very interesting. Such a shame so many of those beautiful old buildings bunt down and were rebuilt so horribly. I remember going to Beaudesert for family picnics in the 60's. If my my younger brother was naughty on the day Dad would threaten to leave him at boy's town. Thank god he never did. The old wooden church was quite beautiful. I agree that the current colour is not good. A lot of the older buildings were better colours.
@jennycampbell5236 For reasons unknown, Beaudesert didn't get a proper fire service until the early 1940's. And what with the majority of buildings and houses being built out of wood, it's no wonder so many burnt down. And yeah, the old St Marys looked much better in the dark paint. Gave it a solidity I think it needs in terms of appearance. Thanks for watching!
12:34 Wow, the area at the start of Tarwonga Road has certainly changed quite a bit with these new subdivisions! If you look on Google Street View, it is very different from how it is now. It is a shame though that all of the bushland has to be sacrificed for the new houses however :(
Loved your video as always. We've been visiting friends who moved to Beaudesert for well over 50 years now. We'd drive down and back on a narrow
single lane (one each way) road. sure has changed a lot since then with estates springing up all the way along a wide four laned highway. After heavy
rain we'd have to push our cars through deep water over the road at Jerry's Downfall. Can't even recognize that spot now. And, how come so many old
heritage buildings used to burn down? Were records kept giving the reasons for the outbreak of the fires?
Thank-you for this presentation Rob. I live just down the road at Tamborine (Village).
I was really hoping you would talk about the hospital, but you spoke about so much I didn't know and I was born there and lived around the area..... LOVE THE VIDEOS
@mizzhope22 thanks! I did have the hospital originally in the script, but the show was running long and so I had to chop a couple of bits.
@@walkaboutwithrob I'm use it will come up one-day haha... Thanks for the reply very much appreciate it 😀
@@mizzhope22 you're welcome! Always great to get feedback.
@@walkaboutwithrobnever 'chop' your videos. I think we'd all keep watching even if they were another hour longer ;) I love going to towns all over SEQ now that I am older, and appreciating all the old buildings and history attached to them. My missus gets the shits when I wanted off looking into every building while she waits impatiently in the car or on a park bench. So - film away ;)
The historical museum in Beaudesert has to be one of the best, few bit of my German family history in there.
I agree. The staff there were so generous in helping me find the information I needed. They really went above and beyond the call.
Well researched and plenty to see in this little town when in my youth I broke my heart over a girl oh well I have been through there many times without knowing any of what you presented Great Job
caught it right as it got released 💪
During WW2 I used to regularly visit Beaudesert. My father worked for the Army and he worked closely with the US Army. At Round Mountain near Beaudesert there was a US Army internment camp. The inmates were mostly black soldiers some of whom had been convicted of capital offences but could not be hung in Queensland because the state had banned capital punishment. At the camp was a luxurious officers club where we saw first release Hollywood movies and had unlimited access to American candy. I seem to remember that there was a railway line than ran into Round Mountain which had something do with mining.
Round Mountain quarry. Yes there was a USA army camp as well. The current interstate rail line is still there.
I’m watching and an ad popped up. It’s David Reyne selling Subarus. But anyway, a movie called Frenchman’s Farm was filmed at Beauy. 1986. David Reyne was in that too. 😊
Hi Rob, I find your videos very informative. I'm from Belfast in the North of Ireland. I was in Brisbane last year for just two weeks.
I'm going to New Farm for the month of November. I would love it if you could do a video on the history of New Farm.
@michaelvalente2784 I am hoping to do a New Farm history walk later this year. A lot to explore there! Keep subscribed and press the bell icon that way you'll know when new videos come up.
Great video. Thank you
Hey Rob, Another Great Vid, Ripping up Railways is always a mistake, Lovely town, Nice to see Mt Flinders form the other side from time to time. I remember doing some research on the Tancred Brothers, I can't remember what I did with it. I know I have consumed a lot of their product over the years. Some of it in the Railway pub in Beaudesert...T-Rocks.😎
@t-rocks1960 thanks Tony. I hope it gets to remain a town for a long time to come, rather than just being another suburb like Beenleigh.
The duck quack😂😂😂😂 lol
Great Video Rob Lovely to see some of history about Beauy, my home town. Of course it's nothing like what it use to be. It's slowly becoming just another modern suburb.
Mate the growth in the last 10 years is crazy. Pretty much the burbs now haha.
A lot has been missed. Rob has only scratched the surface, like most city people that visit will do. Come back Rob and spend a month, not a day. What about Bromelton House and the Chinese company that now owns it? Then there is Alan Creek and the Alan family - what about them?
I have only ever heard it pronounced Beauuuuudessert in Aussie English! No idea it was originally "Bådisär"! Beautiful countryside around there. 20 years ago when I first moved to Australia, I went to the Beaudesert footy club on Sat afternoon with some friends and it was the biggest pissup I've ever seen. Not sure if it was a one off or if it was always wild...
I've never actually been to a sports match. Did you enjoy the event and have a pint or two?
I grew up around Beaudesert. You know Boy Swallows Universe? Imagine that except rural and set in the 90s/2000s and that sums up Beaudesert. The place is a general hole too; much nicer Country around. Moving to Gympie was eye opening RE quality country towns with quality facilities near a city.
Yeah, now I get what you mean! I have read Boy swallows universe and now I am watching the series on Netflix. The places described in BSU (Darra etc) are also pretty similar to the place I grew up in in Sweden (socioeconomically, characters living there), just warmer. So while Beauie was exotic to me, it also was oddly familiar in a way....@@dingobonza
@@JennyEkberg If you want good rum, try the Beenleigh Rum Distillery. Far better than Bundy! I don't follow any sport so I am definitely a minority here!
@@walkaboutwithrob Any rum is better than Bundy!
The heading of this story is short of the mark regarding fires e.g.
Neibling's Cafe, Tortora's Bakery,
Veiver's Bakery,
Blunck's Garage,
Spalding's Dairy Supplies,
Shay's Cafe, Imperial Theatre,
Panitz Bakery,
Durrands Corner.
I can remember the present Council Chambers land being a dirt car park and standing on the Post Office Verandah( now RSL) watching the Grand Hotel Burn in the middle of a cold winters night
I was stationed in Beaudesert for about 9 months. It seems the locals pronounce it "Buhdesert" said as quickly as possible. Or just "Beauy" (Bow-ee).
Yeah you are right! I heard Beauuuudesssert from town ppl, and Buhdesert from locals. I had fogotten that. Have not been in Beauy since early 2000s I think.
Yeah most of us locals would just say Beauy. To this day I still call it Beauy and I haven't lived there for 10 years, just grew up there.
Great view of St Mary's Church ca 1907 thankyou my Great Grandfather built it apparently.
Boystown sounds horrendous. I remember the raffles they used to have for it.
I noticed lots of things burned down in this docu. problems with candles and early electricity, or shennanigans?
Many reasons. Accidents. Flammable materials. No safety equipment. Arson.
My home town! Grew up on Bromelton House Rd, and went to Gleneagle State School :)
Thinking back to painting the bauedesert hotel I've just realised that the back wall kitchen ect is original and the bar side being new. I didn't realise at the time but the window's my mad father was hanging out of were far older than 40s. The underneath was mind blowing also
Up Beaudesert ! Thanks mate.
Enjoyed that thanks 👍👍👍👍
Very knowledgeable man. Thank u.
So, to commemorate the 150th anniversary, which 20+ businesses/churches/pubs will be burnt down?
I agree the script (& some of the plot) of Sons Of Matthew are will ropey, but I am glad it was made. Some of the scenery shots in the Lamingtons are spectacular snapshots of a land being opened up (& later exploited). It also has a direct link with Bernard O'Reilly of Stinson and O'Reilly's Guesthouse fame, though Chauvel mauled the tale and managed to make it a bit creepy.
I was hoping to hear a bit about Tomas Brayford
Great video Rob. A classmate got sent to Boys Town. He was asked what was he here for. He replied " By the looks of it, a holiday". Then he was punched in the head for his remark. A few years later, he took his own life. Not sure what else happened to him there but could only guess.
Hi Rob. I really enjoy watching your videos. Very relaxing to watch especially after work. 😊 Q; will you be making videos on history of Toowoomba anytime soon?
@naryroeun3298 Thank you! Yes absolutely, I am very keen to do a video on Toowoomba. It's just a matter of finding the theme or angle to it.
Im assuming Alfred William.....?probably knew my ancestor John hepher who assisted in the draft of 1st Labor platform in n.s.w.Really enjoyed this video rob,was surprised the Logan has 90foot depths.Again,more stunning old photos..would u consider going a little further north?up into the hinterlands or somewhere like the bunya mountains or the diaguilar ranges?I just realised john hepher was in the council quite a bit later than 1850.Thankyou again for a great video.
@raindog428 Thanks indeed, glad you enjoyed it! I have visited the Bunya Mountains a few years back and included it in my Dalby video.
We bought an investment property in Bowee and my husband's research revealed the new railway to be built using the same area. It should be on the new government planes. Not certain when it will begin, but it is in the pipeline. Shame when the old pub burnt down and instead of copying it, they built that monstrosity. Cheers
Just keep in mind, I'll summarise what I've commented elsewhere, the train line has been planned for decades, like we are talking when my grandparents were young and had a farm at Park Ridge. There was no movement. The mysterious planned trainline has been a community talking point for so, so, so long. It's a long pipeline and I wouldn't expect anything to be realised in the near future.
There was even more noise around it when Beauy Rail closed down but that corridor didn't align with the current government's vision of duplicating the freight line via Greenbank and running a service out to Beaudesert via Flagstone.
Personally I'd love to see the trainline run from Beaudesert to Flagstone, up to Jimboomba, Yarabilba, Logan Village then swing back to run towards Springfield Central station and connect there with another stop at Greenbank. Though a cheaper option would be Beaudesert, Flagstone, Greenbank and Springfield, diverting Jimboomba and Logan Village. I think this may have been the plan when I was a kid as that route follows the freight line that's currently there you'll see on Google Maps. Once you hit that roundabout area at Greenbank, it wouldn't be too hard subject to Defence approval to use the perimeter of the Greenbank Barracks to run the line through which is pretty much what has happened with the Springfield line. And since the Springfield line is planned to become a big loop from Ipswich to Springfield to Brisbane, it would really open up the entire region and help Springfield become the satellite city it has been envisioned as.
Star gardens❤
Maclean's bridge ❤
Sounds like Beaudesert had a pyromaniac living there in the 1880’s and 1890’s
In the late 80's, the water level of the IL-Bogan lagoon was very low.
For Beautification the Club excavated the Lagoon deeper using the excavated spoil ti create a island within the lagoon behind the Grandstand
Subsequent committees have not been as dedicated.
Hence the Lagoon depth
the race course received a large Qld government grant for track up grades. The co
Hi Rob, thoroughly enjoy your Walkabouts. Do you think that some time in the future you could do a walkaround in Charleville QLD ?
@marcusdighton1561 Yes, would absolutely love to visit Charleville. It's just a matter of finding the time to do it. Are regional flights expensive to there from Brisbane?
@@walkaboutwithrob Really unsure Rob.
@@walkaboutwithrobget a train mate and film a train history segment, QLD used to be a Locomotive giant back in the day so there's plenty of Locomotive history to unpack. Jump on the Westlander!
As a beautiful nod to the past, Beaudesert has retained an element of the sideshow to the present day. A full 80% of the residents pay homage to the Fat Lady, by copying her aesthetic.
I was thinking that it's so sad that half the population have the same build as the fat lady. The ones of 2024 are covered with crudely drawn tattoos.
So much fire damaged buildings
We used to be told Jimboomba creation stories
Oh and yes fire and fiery is like a lot of the English language...confusing for a lot of people. I have to say too that it was a really terrible thing for those young men at Boystown, but certainly not surprising. My dad was in the orphanage at Moorland House run by the catholic church on the Wesley hospital sight, and while it wasn't like Boystown, the abuse they endured was something he didn't like talking about
@shelleigh5993 I was absolutely shocked to learn that something like this was occurring in south-east Queensland, let alone in such a lovely and seemingly innocent town like Beaudesert. I just can't fathom what makes so-called religious people be so harsh and cruel to young people. It wasn't a fun part of the video to research or edit, but I felt I had to include it as it's part of the overall story of the region.
@@walkaboutwithrob I know, it's a terrible thing. I think it attracts a certain kind of person who has those tendencies because people don't expect that behaviour from a "religious" figurehead
Lots of 🔥 burned places out there
I really like your vids, however I would love to hear you do an acknowledgment to the original owners of the place you are filming. And some history of the indigenous peoples.
@suzetteperkins1089 I included an acknowledgment to the traditional custodians of the Beaudesert area right at the beginning of the video. I also included some history about the Indigenous people including the site of a bora ring and the belief in a bunyip from the Il-Bogan Lagoon.
and he included the monument and story of William Drumley
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Wow I mispronounced beaudesert
Hoop pines main use as far as I could surmise was it's use as an inert packing wood for box's for dairy products like butter & cheese , perhaps an clue the dairy butter plants in area's they were logged
Yep according to my pop it was used for agriculture a lot, some rail sleeper usage and a bit of building here and there (alongside silky oak when used in building)
They're re-building the trainline
They said they were building a line out there to the city via Flagstone back in the 90s lol, they also had a city line planned back when my dad grew up on his big farm property which is now Park Ridge (my grandparents developed the shopping centre and the property was on the site of the school), it's been planned for decades. Let's see how many more decades pass by.
It needs a train line honestly and it would make the area much nicer. Having grown up in the Beaudesert area, it was a country ghetto on the outskirts of the city and a lack of transport definitely impacted that as youth crime was pretty bad because no one has anything to do or nowhere to go.
Unfortunately very unlikely as they stuffed up towards Browns planes according to the boys that work on the freight line. Stupidity killed it and now killing it again 🤦 same story in Ipswich with old line's going off in very intelligent direction's but all gone. Our public transport system is wonderful for about 2 percent of the population
@@dingobonza🤯 is that shopping centre still there if so I used to sweep it
@@DirtySlapper99 that's terrible about the train lines and doesn't surprise me at all. Imo it shouldn't even swing by Browns Plains, I'd prefer a Beaudesert to Springfield Central service diverting at the Greenbank roundabout part of the freight line back through Greenbank Barracks towards Springfield (similar to what they did with Springfield Line). It would make far more sense when considering Springfield's satellite city concept and future loop service up to Ipswich via Redbank
@@dingobonza i think that was the plan but something else is in the way 🤣 it will have to happen but they'll leave it until it can't be avoided anymore costing far more. I collect scrap metal from building site's for a living and working in the Ripley area travelling through Springfield daily and omg the road's are already so over crowded. They just keep building and adding whole areas using the same roads ect and the train line is just going to be the excuse but right now before it gets to bad we could make that motorway 4 or more lane's and future proof but I'd say that us a long way away. Funny thing is that I can imagine a bloke like me saying this all those years ago whilst the tracks were being ripped up 🤣
So many buildings burnt down back in tbe day wounder why maybe candles
Lots of people in and out all the time. Some drunk. Open fires. Alcohol soaked wood. Accidents. Poor safety procedures.
I went to St Paul De La Salle in Sydney, 🤬
90 feet is about 27 metres to Non-Americans.
What's the story with all the fires?
@mathewharrison most houses and buildings were built of wood, and there was no fire department in the town until the early 1940's.
The fire station was located just left of the present entrance to the Council work shop yards. The fire Station was manned by volunteers. When you needed there services, you picked up your phone and waited for girls working the phone exchange (Building still there behind Post Office)
The Phone Exchange would engage a very loud siren which would not stop until enough volunteers arrived at the fire station.
I did mention Viever's Bakery Burnt, it was Veiver's Butchery.
In the 50's&60's all the fires were in winter, and mid week. At one stage, I renember there were 3 fires in consecutive weeks.
The sideshow is just everyday in Beaudesert
Hmm Lot of red steers in Beaudesert.
Everything burnt down 🙄
Do Ipswich please
@gpp4376 I've already done it ☺
🤣ya missed heaps of fire's lot's of those places burnt down and rebuilt like the pub 5 time's i know of
Your lucky you didn't meet the bunyip Shane conyard rumur has it his been banished there since he knocked up hid daughter
When can we shut all churches down? or at least make them pay taxes and educate children to avoid them.
Lost me by kowtowing to 'original owners'.
@williamhumphrey9766 it actually says "acknowledge the traditional custodians..."
Kowtowing, how?