Why I never buy electronics from Ebay

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • The title says it all.
    Caveat Emptor
    Buyer Beware

Komentáře • 188

  • @Bangulo
    @Bangulo Před 3 lety +17

    I love buying broken stuff on ebay and repairing them! love the challange!

    • @bryede
      @bryede Před 3 lety +4

      For the home technician, buying untested or broken stuff cheap is a much better deal.

    • @tacofortgens3471
      @tacofortgens3471 Před rokem

      Specially if parts are unavailable, or they want way too much for broken stuff

  • @teacfan1080
    @teacfan1080 Před 3 lety +24

    I've seen sellers that say "unable to test" even though it has a plug. They don't even have access to a plug? That's a big red flag.

    • @leonjohnsonjr3331
      @leonjohnsonjr3331 Před 3 lety +3

      And we dont except return i like the 30 day policy

    • @RMBittner
      @RMBittner Před 3 lety +1

      Or it runs on AA batteries and they’re still “unable to test.”

    • @TheTheo58
      @TheTheo58 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree w/you .... what I find amusing is "unable to test" no cord or cord was cut off" If it's a deck with a plug in cord like the Teac's just need a test cord with a set of insulated alligator clips. Not rocket science.

    • @ColinTimmins
      @ColinTimmins Před 3 lety +1

      “unable to test” = Don’t buy, move along…

    • @weeardguy
      @weeardguy Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheTheo58 I always read 'unable to test' as 'It's working, but I don't have the equipment/ability to see if it still meets specifications'. No need to go so hard on people advertising their stuff this way. Just move on to the next one if you don't like the things offered on Ebay.

  • @thetechgenie7374
    @thetechgenie7374 Před 3 lety +15

    You can repair that ribbon and just sand coating off and solder wire to broken connections. Likely has other issues, so understand why you gaved up as likely not worth it.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +3

      He left the unit with me so perhaps some day I will attempt but don't hold your breath on that one.

    • @ColinTimmins
      @ColinTimmins Před 3 lety

      @@12voltvids Yeah, lots of work. Perhaps could be used for parts… or the great electronic place of happiness in the sky… only time will tell.

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety +2

      It can be "fixed" but it's not really a repair. Finding parts for these is hopeless unless you find a donor unit. Also, it looked like a tape guide floating loose in there - working on the tape path on these is a nightmare.

    • @rarbiart
      @rarbiart Před 3 lety

      @@12voltvids and then you find broken drum head... i assume it has at least 2-3 other severe issues.

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 Před 3 lety +7

    Everybody knows "powers on, unable to test" is code for "works perfectly at a great price!!" 🤣

    • @cfcreative1
      @cfcreative1 Před 3 lety

      Many times unable to test is just because 1 the seller doesn't have a clue what it is or what it does and how to use it that happens on electronics test gear or 2 doesn't have leads or other parts that go with the equipment. Like soldering stations with no soldering irons etc.

  • @onometre
    @onometre Před 3 lety +13

    Wow I buy vintage tech off eBay all the time and have never had a problem

    • @zulumax1
      @zulumax1 Před 3 lety

      I've been doing eBay since 2001, give it some time, you will see it.

    • @BavarianM
      @BavarianM Před 3 lety

      Once I bought a VCR
      Someone broke the heads

  • @t0rxe
    @t0rxe Před 3 lety +2

    It's perfectly fixable. You can manually solder runner wires to the ribbon connector easily, thus bypassing the ribbon itself.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Před 3 lety

      I thought you couldn't do that because it melts, again it melts?????????????

    • @t0rxe
      @t0rxe Před 3 lety

      @@ranbymonkeys2384 not to the ribbon itself, but to the ribbon connector.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Před 3 lety

      @@t0rxe OK, what if it's broke in the middle of the cable, LIKE THAT ONE?????

    • @t0rxe
      @t0rxe Před 3 lety

      @@ranbymonkeys2384 doesn't matter where it's broken, you just bridge any damaged ribbon pins with jumper wires from header-to-header. The headers on those old FPC connectors are super easy to solder to unlike modern FPC connectors.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Před 3 lety

      @@t0rxe I'm not the one with the broken ribbon here, tell that guy. I say just solder the trades together (that works) and call it a day.

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 Před 3 lety +1

    I buy from Ebay and it is a gamble but you can stack the odds in your favour.
    1) I buy only electronics that is 9/10 cosmetically or better so this also means that there must be many high res pictures of the item.
    2) I buy only electronics that is easy to work on (from the 70's and early 80's, no plastic on the enclosure) or real cheap. My cheap technics CD player with plastic front for about $40,- is cosmetically 10/10 (almost NOS) and is playing faultless since I bought it a few years ago, lovely sound as well.
    You have to be aware that there is no relation between the description and the state it is so you may as well seek electronics that is declared broken. My repaired daily turntable was listed as for parts only and I won the auction at around $10,- I also bought a cassette deck for about $7,- listed as faulty that needed some Deoxit D5 to come alive. So as with everything, if you know what you are doing, you can do it.

    • @gorak9000
      @gorak9000 Před 3 lety

      That's great, if you still have CD's! I haven't seen or held a CD, or DVD for that matter in at least 7 years now - when I moved, I stuffed them all in a couple of boxes (both audio and data cds / dvds), and it's been on a high shelf in the garage ever since. FLAC files are where it's at for audio these days. Physical media is largely dead and not too useful these days.

  • @battokizu
    @battokizu Před 3 lety +9

    I dont know how much shit i've bought but very rarely do I get anything that that hasnt worked or has died very shortly after Ive bought. I honestly like buying from ebay just for the fact that its not supporting jeff bozos empire as a pesudo hedgefund that destroys its competition.

  • @DoingMoreKustoms
    @DoingMoreKustoms Před 3 lety +1

    Easy fix on that ribbon cable, I once used staples to bridge the connections...worked out beautifully !!!

  • @gabrieleorioli1760
    @gabrieleorioli1760 Před 3 lety +6

    Buying from ebay is the same as buying from a flea market but with higher prices and premium options.

    • @ronb6182
      @ronb6182 Před 3 lety

      You are right Gabriel O. I seen my three dollar battery lamp cost about 8 on EBay. Thrift store shopping is the better deal

  • @leonjohnsonjr3331
    @leonjohnsonjr3331 Před 3 lety +7

    I love ebay

  • @RetrofIex
    @RetrofIex Před 2 lety +1

    I NEVER would recommend buying a CRT tv off ebay. Aside from them being grossly overpriced to compensate for high shipping costs, there is a high chance the unit will get tossed around, dropped, banged up and damaged in transit. Also sellers have an easier time being misleading on issues because its easier to just ship and forget. Always test and buy a CRT in person.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety

      That's right. Vi shipped one 20 years ago. Cost 300 in freight. It arrived smashed. Guy wanted his money back
      I said make a claim.

  • @Raptor50aus
    @Raptor50aus Před 3 lety +2

    That why when ever I buy from Ebay I asked the seller to send me a video of the unit powering up otherwise forget it. Been fine with that method so far.

  • @nikodemoka6585
    @nikodemoka6585 Před 3 lety

    i bought a pioneer sa-6500 amp and tx-6500 tuner together and it said for parts or repair. it was 100$ and 100$ shipping. when they came i was hesitant to plug them in but when i did i descovered the only things wrong with them were the power light on the amp didnt turn on and the stereo light on the tuner is burnt out. but thats it, perfectly working otherwise. sounds fantasic too, probably needs a recap just to be safe though.

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 Před 3 lety +1

    I bought a PC motherboard from a 'market', of course they said it works. When I got it home it was dead, for starters one of it's BIOS EPROMs was in backwards.
    I actually fixed it, but only because I worked for a company with a surface-mount rework station, and a stock of chipset IC's that they let me use.

  • @TheTheo58
    @TheTheo58 Před 3 lety +2

    I have bought a number of electronic items on E-Bay most of them w/o any issues or gear I am able to repair. However, I would likely stay clear of vintage audio gear since it's hard to get parts for and wear/tear with tape decks and worn parts.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Před 3 lety

      On both of these items the seller indicated they had problems.

  • @ranbymonkeys2384
    @ranbymonkeys2384 Před 3 lety +2

    Just strip the plastic off of the traces on the ribbon cable and solder it back together.

    • @t0rxe
      @t0rxe Před 3 lety

      You can't do that. It melts. The correct way as far as I know is you need to hot-bar it but the temperature must be perfect otherwise, again, it melts.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Před 3 lety

      @@t0rxe Don't doubt me when I tell you the copper traces inside the plastic don't melt. Again, STRIP OFF THE PLASTIC and solder it back together. I'm sorry to hear that you got the vaccine.

  • @robguitarwizard
    @robguitarwizard Před 3 lety +6

    Ebay is great for selling unwanted and broken electronics.

    • @ranbymonkeys2384
      @ranbymonkeys2384 Před 3 lety

      Ebay is great for buying unwanted and broken electronics. You would be surprised how many times it just takes a 30 cent capacitor.

  • @devicemodder
    @devicemodder Před 3 lety +2

    I bought a sony Video8 VCR from ebay, listed as Ppowers up, no further testing done" i got lucky, and it works.

  • @MajorCadence
    @MajorCadence Před 3 lety +1

    Yep, I don't buy anything vintage unless it says "tested and working" or "pulled from a working environment/lab". Occasionally, I will buy something untested or broken if it's very cheap, but just for the challenge of repair. :)

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 Před 3 lety

      Exactly my thoughts, I read "untested" as "tested and believed fubar" and pay accordingly. Sometimes there's a nice surprise from an honest seller, mostly it is just as you say, a challenge!

  • @THOMMGB
    @THOMMGB Před 3 lety

    Dave,
    About 15 years ago I got lucky with a used Sony TCD-D10 Pro II dat machine. It was given to me by a customer who said it was not working. The owner had lent it to a friend who took it onto the ocean in an open boat where it got wet from salt water. It was ruined. I called Sony to check about their repair service for this machine. I can't remember the exact amount, but it was an outrageous flat fee of $300 - $400 to fix whatever was wrong. I sent it in and paid the fee after they promised it would be repaired. The tech spent quite a while on it and sent it back with one channel working. I politely told the lady on the phone from Sony that they were supposed to fix whatever was wrong, whatever it took. I took it back. I spoke to the tech who told me he would make it perfect. And he did. It was there about six weeks. Every board, and then some, was replaced. Worked like a brand new machine, which it was, I suspect. Nice technician, that guy.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +1

      Well when you change all the boards i would hope it would fix it.

  • @thomascalamo4236
    @thomascalamo4236 Před 3 lety

    Dave, I never had the need to buy from EBay.
    When I do, I go through another retail outlet.
    I try brick and mortar first, before doing over the internet. You know in your heart you made the correct call.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +1

      Same here. I don't order off Amazon or eBay as a rule.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM Před 2 lety

    when I buy stuff online, my methodology is
    Used: well used
    pre owned: another word for "well used"
    Refurbished: someone ran a magic eraser over it (seriously if you buy a referb and it has a battery, it's the original unless it totally died)
    untested: definitely tested and broken (potential handing off of products)
    Job lot: here's a pile of my unfixables that I couldn't get working
    open box: used but "looks like new"
    Brand new from unofficial sellers: either an open box that got re-shrink wrapped or actually new(10% chance)
    and cheap GPUs: most likely a mining card that they're selling off because they already used most of it's lifespan in a year

  • @rarbiart
    @rarbiart Před 3 lety

    you can buy from ebay, but it's gamble, you have to be strict with your limits, and to adjust if the gable produces to many losses.

  • @zidane2k1
    @zidane2k1 Před 3 lety

    Last year I bought a cheap "untested" 20MB hard drive for my Macintosh SE. It didn't work, which I expected, but it didn't have the usual fault those drives had. Instead, what I found was that someone had already been inside the drive, put some fingerprints on the top platter, and ripped the wires leading to the top head. That made it unusable and unrepairable.

  • @crebegea
    @crebegea Před 3 lety +1

    German Ebay has been pretty good for me. Laptops, a couple of decks, all good deals and pretty much what I expected. Granted, I'd research the market and avoid the too low deals.

    • @mrb.5610
      @mrb.5610 Před 3 lety +2

      ...and it's always worth a look at theit feedback and history.plus 'other items' for sale - it's easy to sniff out a dealer from the genuine 'I inherited this but haven't a clue what it is or worth' seller.

  • @jerryspann8713
    @jerryspann8713 Před 3 lety +2

    Sometimes I think people dig junk out of the trash and sell it on Ebay.

  • @danmackintosh6325
    @danmackintosh6325 Před 3 lety +1

    I was all set to say about repairing the ribbon cable with telephone wire until you reminded me that if they messed it up and hid that, what else did they kill while in there rounding screws and knocking guides loose? I mean, it's something I'd look at as a challenge but economically there's not an ounce of sense in even trying. At least solid state kit doesn't generally arrive with all the semiconductors missing or replaced with incorrect like valve/tube equipment people flog on the bay!

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv Před 3 lety +3

    Yup it's deader than bell bottom trousers.
    Not one of sonys best works, bodge wires everywhere and parts splatted on the pcb.
    Usually sellers say 'untested, sold as spares'.
    " Untested " is often an ideal lie to sell crap!.

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety

      Or it's really just not tested. Unless you worked professional audio in the 90s you're unlikely to have any DATs laying around.

  • @Megalocade
    @Megalocade Před 3 lety

    Some times you can get a good one, i remember buying a sony minidisc it was heading up as (for parts) untested, cost me $5 and when i received it it worked perfectly and still works to this day also mint condition.

  • @rbus
    @rbus Před 3 lety

    I've had insanely good luck buying electronics on eBay for 10 years, but I love buying "broken" stuff cheap and seeing how quick i can get it working. A lot of times, when its a seller that deals in lots of returns, they dont seem to thoroughly check the items and i look for common minor problems. If its a small seller who says "untested" i look for other listings to guage if they actually *can* test and they're being dishonest. My PS4, Xbox 1 S, 2 PS3s, all "as is" buys that arrived just fine and have been working for years. i cant explain it except i just get a feel about it. Also ill get a feel about buying obscure hardware and it arrives & turns out to be awesome. Most recently a $100 Green Hippo media server (worth 50x that) & ELO signage server that turns out to be a micro ITX Intel i7 PC that is easily hacked runs off simple 12v power source for $35.

  • @grizzlyaddams3606
    @grizzlyaddams3606 Před 3 lety +1

    Yeah 3 out of 3 busts on Ebay. Even when the buyer supposedly said he would give me a refund, somehow he was all of a sudden no able to be contacted in any way shape or form. Like twilight zone.

  • @mrb.5610
    @mrb.5610 Před 3 lety

    It's a gamble ... I bought a B&K sound level meter for about 10% of the going rate as 'spares or repair' as supposedly the seller 'didn't understand how it worked' - yeah, right !
    But it paid off - 2 dead capacitors replaced and it came good - but a broken microphone would have made it a financial write off.
    It's a risk you take.

  • @lordsmurf
    @lordsmurf Před rokem

    Even "tested" and "working" video gear is often NOT working whatsoever. The seller saw lights when it was plugged in, and then called it a day. Many are giddy to get $$$ for non-working junk. Once their BS is discovered by the buyer, many sellers then try their best to fight returns. After that fails, the sellers next try to only issue a partial refund after the return is made, hoping you won't notice. eBay is a video gear dumping ground now, and it can literally take months to get your money back on bad buys. And these days, bad buys are more common than not. VCRs/VTRs, camcorders, TBCs, and even many capture cards are a problem. eBay is the guy selling speakers from his trunk in the parking lot, not a reputable merchant. You need and want this legacy gear for conversion, but don't random buy from random strangers in random places. Indeed caveat emptor, aka you've been warned!

  • @cfcreative1
    @cfcreative1 Před 3 lety

    I love buying electronics on Ebay and have had pretty much all good experiences. If you are a repair guy look really closely at the pics. Many times you can tell from the pics how "virgin" the gear is. Look closely at the state of screws and the case.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      DAT machine I bought looked virgin and was sold as a working machine. It didn't work and requited extensive work. Now i didn't pay much for it but I did pay over 100 in shipping charges I wasn't aware of untill the auction ended because the auction said shipping only 20 bucks but because the auction didn't go to whey he wanted he bent me over and gave it to me up the ass in shipping charges and thn when it didn't work offered me my money back less the shipping but i would have to pay to return i recapped it only to find out the heads were badly worn so in the pile of crap it sits. It looked absolutely mint too so that means diddly.

    • @cfcreative1
      @cfcreative1 Před 3 lety

      @@12voltvids well i have had very good experiences on Ebay over maybe the last 10 years. I have bought in working condiditon musical gear, old synthesizers and samplers and drum machines. The buyer seller rating really pushes people to be serious about the condition they they list things in. In disagreemant situations I have come out on top as well. The last I bought a leader signal generator. The first one didn't work and so the seller sent me a second one tha worked. So now I have two one that needs repair. I have also been surprised by buying "as is" condition electronics too that have needed almost nothing to get working again. I bought an HP oscilloscope that was booting up with an error message and all it needed was a battery. Their are endless deals on Ebay. If you are patient you can always find gear selling for hundreds and sometimes thousands off store prices. Gear you just couldn't afford otherwise. Thats my experiences.

    • @cfcreative1
      @cfcreative1 Před 3 lety

      @@12voltvids If you are looking to see if someone worked on the machine many times you can tell by really closely looking at the pics. I am not talking about heads. But what you believe is what you believe and there is no convincing some people.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      @@cfcreative1 the machine i bought had never been opened. It even had a factory seal on the back but the drum hour counter told the story. 2500 hours but it looked like it just came out of the box.
      Doesn't matter though as there is nothing I want bad enough to pay eBay prices for. If i wait long enough I will get one for free heading to the dump.

    • @cfcreative1
      @cfcreative1 Před 3 lety

      @@12voltvids ya but it also depends on the item. for sure a tape recorder is much different from other gear. I just got a reel to reel on craigslist. I sincerely hope you get way more deals than bad experiences. Was the item sold "no returns". If it was sold in working condition what i would do is ask for a partial refund at the very least sometimes u can cut deals. It has happened to me. Generally sellers will really try to avoid getting a negative review on Ebay. Did u give him a bad review?

  • @SavageGame1998
    @SavageGame1998 Před 3 lety +9

    I have bought broken game systems off Ebay, and I was able to fix them.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +11

      The guy that bought this one bought 2. The other was repairable. Thing is many things sold on ebay are not repairable. You take your chances.

    • @viewer54322
      @viewer54322 Před 3 lety +2

      sometimes its not worth hunting down some ones mistakes (can often be many, maybe even shorts etc) especially when its some old recorder that youre fixin for someone else for free.
      Is everyone with a Sonic the hedgehog avatar autistic?

    • @DuncanWEDD2019
      @DuncanWEDD2019 Před 3 lety +1

      @@viewer54322 No, but this subscriber is.

    • @ChucksGhost01
      @ChucksGhost01 Před 3 lety +4

      You can't call out the whole eBay market based on what you've personally bought. There are other circumstances involved like how much you're willing to pay and I'm guessing you didn't pay much for what you're trying to fix.

    • @SavageGame1998
      @SavageGame1998 Před 3 lety

      @@viewer54322 You really need to think about what you're saying, because this could constitute cyberbullying, and something could come back at you.

  • @TRONMAGNUM2099
    @TRONMAGNUM2099 Před 3 lety +1

    I buy old 8 bit computers off eBay. It is a crap shoot. Luckily though, The market is huge for them right now, so you can still get most of the repair parts. I have been scammed before. Massive battery leakage that ruined a ton of traces. A little over my skill level. Still though as a hobbyist I enjoy breaking out the oscilloscope and multimeter to do some basic repairs.

  • @zulumax1
    @zulumax1 Před 3 lety

    Another one for a parts donor!
    I just had to rob an output transformer off of a parts amplifier I bought for that purpose just today. I originally bought it for the potted power transformer that the filament winding shorted on mine probably 7 years ago. The amp would not DC balance out on the push pull output. Two CC Manufacturing can capacitors went open and I just changed them less than 5 years ago, and several out of tolerance resistors resistors replaced.
    Don't know if I caused them to fail prematurely by not grounding out one of the unused capacitors, I heard that an unused capacitor can develop a ghost voltage on it and cause the entire can to fail, so they should be shorted out if not used. Is that true?
    Heathkit W-5M amplifier, one of the 20 Mfd sections went open and probably caused the output transformer to fail. Odd thing is the amp was not producing any hum, or any symptoms that something was needing attention. Having a bone pile to pull from is a must for the unobtainable bits.

  • @426hemicuda1090
    @426hemicuda1090 Před 3 lety +1

    I bought an Aiwa 3 head tape deck usually listed for $500 for $100 and just replaced the belts and idler tire plus a speed calibration and one bad solder joint. Guess I made out good

  • @gabrieleorioli1760
    @gabrieleorioli1760 Před 3 lety +1

    I was wondering if there is a way to fix severed and unobtainable ribbon cables. I have managed to "bridge" some stupid, 2 pole flat cables which were NOT a moving part, but it was not an elegant solution. Conductive paint, maybe? Solder on the cracks? I am very curious about this because a simple cable should not render a whole unit unrepairable.

    • @pauldionne2884
      @pauldionne2884 Před 3 lety

      They're just flat wires. Scrap off the insulation and jumper them as needed with flexible wires. I do get the PIA aspect of this though.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +2

      @@pauldionne2884 I have fixed them before. Fiberglass reinforced tape on back. Reinforce with epoxy. Sand off the insulation on top and bridge the traces. Lots of work and if the traces are not super small. Can't guarantee the work though because you know it is going to fail.

  • @zulumax1
    @zulumax1 Před 3 lety +4

    Waiting for the radio swap meets and hamfests to open up now that we can get out of our covid hibernation. eBay is not any fun anymore.

    • @ronb6182
      @ronb6182 Před 3 lety

      I have to agree with you on this one as well. Thanks for posting zulumax!

  • @Super8Rescue
    @Super8Rescue Před 3 lety +1

    I miss my old portable Casio DAT machine

    • @BavarianM
      @BavarianM Před 3 lety

      You had a DA1?

    • @Super8Rescue
      @Super8Rescue Před 3 lety

      @@BavarianM I had two of them. Great little machines. I bought one, and I was sent two of them in error and no one asked for the other one to be returned. This would have been 1990-1992 or something like that

  • @robguitarwizard
    @robguitarwizard Před 3 lety

    Funny! An ad for e-waste popped up in the middle of the video.

  • @annierenard5954
    @annierenard5954 Před 3 lety

    excellent video thank you

  • @timothy2830
    @timothy2830 Před 3 lety

    Was this form-factor made up by Marantz... Sony... who?... was it first for Cassette, then DAT, Minidisc, Compact Flash, SD...
    I had a Marantz PMD-670 and 671 in this form-factor. Now I have a Tascam (something?) I was just curious about the form-factor history.

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety +1

      I can tell you it's rather similar to a Roberts(AKAI) 6000 portable reel-to-reel I have. Similar layout just smaller. The one I have dates to 1961.

  • @DavidLimUX
    @DavidLimUX Před 3 lety

    I sell electronics on ebay and i always make sure they are tested and working and offer 30-day free returns on all working electronics. If not, I sell for parts and explain the issues with the item in detail so there's no surprises. Sellers that sell broken electronics and pass off as working or untested are the worst.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +1

      Untested, or Powers up means the same thing. It is broken. When I finally get around to selling off my excess equipment inventory even the stuff that works I'm going to list it as for parts only as I don't need anything coming back. I was going to dispose of a lot of stuff that I'm not going to fix but I started thinking maybe I should sell some of these old pieces for parts just because the only way to get parts now is basically to pick them off broken machines so I may be an advantage to rather than recycle some of the old gear just put them up dirt cheap on eBay and see where they go because after all the buyers pay the shipping anyway right.

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety

      I used to fix and sell electronics on eBay. No money in it with seller pays for everything and eBay let's the buyer rent your equipment for 30 days for free. Way too many scammers and ridiculous policies. Nobody warranties used electronics in the real world. All used sales should be as-is. Let the customer buy an extended warranty if they want a warranty on a used item.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      @@equid0x bingo that's exactly what happened to me. Sold my old evw300 professional hi8 camera. 5 Weeks later guy requests to return it for a refund as he no longer needed it I guess. I said no all sales final. He then makes up a bullshit claim that it was not as described that the lens was no good that it had dark circles on the edges. He tried to use the lens on a different camera that uses a bigger lens, as that's the only way you'd have dark corners it had a half inch lens as it was a half inch camera. After months of going back and forth eBay allowed a refund and he never returned the camera I lost $2,500.

  • @caryhuffii7224
    @caryhuffii7224 Před 3 lety

    Hello I have a question about a tape player. I have a JVC Dual cassette deck that I bought off market place. At first it sounded great but then I noticed it started to sound worse over time. Eventually it fried a portion of a tape I had. It has a extreme bass effect in that fried portion. It has destroyed two tapes already. Do you know what is wrong with it. It seems mechanically fine.

  • @stevenclarke5606
    @stevenclarke5606 Před 3 lety

    I got stung, with a Sony minidisc deck from eBay, it said “powers up and display works but unable to test no minidiscs. “ guess what it didn’t work! So lesson learned in future read all descriptions, check all photos and if it doesn’t say it is fully working, walk away. The if you get it and it’s not working at least you can get your money back from eBay. I don’t know how people are able to be so dishonest that they are selling items that they know don’t work!

    • @leonjohnsonjr3331
      @leonjohnsonjr3331 Před 3 lety

      Never buy if it don't say 30 day return that's red flag letting u know it dont work

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety +1

      So basically, you got exactly what the seller described - an untested unit that powers on, and you ripped the seller off because the unit did not meet expectations that the seller never claimed in the first place?

    • @stevenclarke5606
      @stevenclarke5606 Před 3 lety

      @@equid0x How did I, rip-off the seller? I binned the item because it didn’t work And lost £30 ! The seller knew that the item didn’t work, but chose to use an ambiguous description in order to sell something that doesn’t work, it was false misrepresentation, unethical and unscrupulous!

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety

      @@stevenclarke5606 I'm unclear on what the misrepresentation would be. If it's a no returns item it would have to have been sold as for parts/not working.

  • @StillCloser
    @StillCloser Před 3 lety +1

    You can order new cables from PCB way - They already made flexy pcbs...

  • @paulb4uk
    @paulb4uk Před 3 lety

    I have learnt this lesson with the £10 3 head sony deck i got from ebay

  • @adredy
    @adredy Před 3 lety

    Someone woke up yesterday ... I found solution back in time get new one

  • @Madjed2024
    @Madjed2024 Před 3 lety

    Hello
    Would you be willing to tune up or restore some vintage audio units I have?
    Thanks

  • @gavincurtis
    @gavincurtis Před 3 lety +1

    Sadly, some of DAT stuff just can't be saved.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +1

      Very true. It's mechanical like a VCR. Lots to go wrong. When it works it is fantastic but many things to fail

  • @oscillatorjones3891
    @oscillatorjones3891 Před 3 lety +1

    "Dats" all folks!

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +2

      Hey that's copyright. One of my episodes is called that!

  • @walle637
    @walle637 Před 3 lety

    All right stupid question but what’s the point of these machines? Why not just invest in a Sony or Panasonic boombox from 2000-2005 with 4-inch speakers? Those rock

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      What DAT?
      To play and record digital audio tapes.

    • @walle637
      @walle637 Před 3 lety

      @@12voltvids Oh lmaoooooooo I’m dumb i thought it was only to play, like a walkman.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      @@walle637
      No, digital audio tape was a professional format used by pretty much every recording studio to make the cd master tape that went to the cd duplication center. Was used for field sound recording, radio reporters ect.

  • @cardboardboxification
    @cardboardboxification Před 3 lety +1

    eBay has ruined a lot of local used item prices, everyone looks on eBay over priced, and then ask that amount,
    For example a sencore lc53 people are asking $700 lol 😂
    I actually got mine off of eBay ..
    I was watching one with a starting price of $20 or so, and 13 people was bidding on it , it was at $50, their was another one for a buy it now for $180 I just got that one and the one people were bidding on sold for $250 at the time ...
    I have been to estate sales and this lady had 5 3” crt’s 3rp1, I wanted to buy them but she had them and looking on eBay what they sell for so she could re sell them...
    I doubt she even knows what they are...
    I got a non working , won’t power on, HP 83732a locally for $100 , I put 2 capacitors in the power supply and it’s has been working perfect, people are asking up to $10,000 on eBay for it lol 😂

    • @mrb.5610
      @mrb.5610 Před 3 lety

      It's worse than that, matey - they look at the prices on ebay then add about 20%....

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety

      I found a walkman sized Sony DAT at the swap meet. The guy didn't know what it was or if it worked. I offered him $50. He goes on eBay, looks it up, and decides he wants $500. I said, first of all you don't know if it's working so it's basically a parts unit. He ends up getting some batteries. Sure enough, powers up but won't play the tape and won't eject. I said $25. Guy still wants $400 for the broken unit. I explained to him there are no parts and he will never find someone to repair it, and non-working it's a worthless paperweight. Last I knew the guy was still trying to sell that thing for $400.

    • @cardboardboxification
      @cardboardboxification Před 3 lety

      @@equid0x some people are going to learn the hard way, looking at eBay prices then buying something they know nothing about and overpay for that item, then never able to sell it, and when they get tired of looking at it take a huge loss just to get rid of it..

  • @tedrobinson372
    @tedrobinson372 Před 3 lety +1

    I buy vintage used electronics on ebay knowing that it will need to be restored. Or new electronics systems from China. That's all.

  • @dontastodgh1067
    @dontastodgh1067 Před 3 lety

    On the next episode of "eBay Horrors of Hell..."
    (apologies for saying that "H" word..)

  • @Elberto71
    @Elberto71 Před 3 lety +1

    If you list something as (faulty) it seems to sell better, male pride says " I can fix this bargain purchase"

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +2

      I think i will list some of the junk i was going to take to recycling. List it as for parts only so no come back. My only fear is someone will send it to me wanting it fixed.

  • @theotherchannel2279
    @theotherchannel2279 Před 3 lety

    Yeah, eBay can be a gamble, but so far I have been very lucky, and had full refunds and been able to keep the items that I have bought!

  • @EddieJazzFan
    @EddieJazzFan Před 3 lety

    Can you tell me what brand of small micro-screw drivers you would recommend?
    The set I bought at Home Depot is crap!

    • @hugobloemers4425
      @hugobloemers4425 Před 3 lety +2

      Buy Wera, made in the Czech republic just like your favourite CZ side arm :)

    • @BavarianM
      @BavarianM Před 3 lety

      Wiha

    • @EddieJazzFan
      @EddieJazzFan Před 3 lety

      @@hugobloemers4425 I'd like to get a CZ side arm too, but in New York by the time I cleared the licensing process, I'd probably be about 88 year old.

  • @KlonoaTorqueBow
    @KlonoaTorqueBow Před 2 lety

    Why do you record to DVD instead of using a PC capture device?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety +1

      Two words, safety backup. I generally recommend to my clients what I'm archiving their home videos to back it up onto a DVD disc then the DVD disc can be ripped and saved as an mp4 that they can have on a USB stick. If something happens to that USB stick they've got a backup copy. Now I know you're going to say just capture it and be done well I do that too, capture it at dv25 and if the client wants it on a hard drive great if not it's then compressed to MP4 which is generally what people want their videos saved as. Only those wanting to edit want them in the dv-25 format. Analog tape captures very nicely to DVD as it's being encoded as a 420 color space as opposed to 411 color space when going to dv25. Just recently I had to deal with a client that had their material backed up on to both DVD and a USB stick but the idiot when she got rid of her DVD player throughout all the backup discs thinking that she wouldn't need them. I get this frantic call that the USB stick won't play and I remember backing her stuff up onto DVD for about 5 years ago so I said no problem just bring me the DVDs and we can make another copy her response was she threw the DVDs away because she didn't think she was going to need them. She's located some of her tapes but not all of them they're moldy I'm giving her a huge quote to demold the tapes and digitize them a second time and she's not happy. I told her had she kept the discs it would have been a very simple process to copy them to the hard drive and then to the USB stick again where is now I have to wind her tapes through by hand to remove the mold that's causing the tapes to stick together and shred basically then I have to capture them again it's like starting over doing the same thing except for this time instead of it costing her $20 a tape it's going to cost her $100 a tape. That's why I recommend get a second backup for the cost of the disc it's nothing. And DVDs if properly stored will last a minimum of 20 years. I have hundreds of discs that were recorded in the early 2000s and they all play perfect. The only ones that I've had trouble with and they weren't DVDs they were cdrs made by princo. All the good name brand discs play fine.

    • @KlonoaTorqueBow
      @KlonoaTorqueBow Před 2 lety

      @@12voltvids I've only ever captured tapes to a hard drive before, but I didn't start until 2015. I'm sure you've been doing this for at least 20 years longer though. I like being able to work with a somewhat 1:1 of the tape itself, then adjusting quality as I see fit with a video editor. Considering you're doing this for probably older people, it makes sense that you're doing DVD's and DV25, though.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 2 lety

      @@KlonoaTorqueBow
      Time is money. Uncompressed files are just something that the average person is not able to deal with. They don't have computers with enough power to deal with it. They want small files that they can upload on Facebook. The hardware compressor in the DVD recorder does a good job and does it on real time.

  • @Craig_Spurlock
    @Craig_Spurlock Před 3 lety

    Buying from Ebay is okay if you just go into it with the mindset of "NOTHING WORKS", even if they say it does. Ebay is a good, if often overpriced, source of "donor units" to fix existing units. It truly IS a game of chance.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey that's an idea. Sell this as a parts machine. Owner abandoned it so it sits on a shelf

  • @Tron1731
    @Tron1731 Před 3 lety

    Use some Vaseline intensive care for your arms and hands your skin looks real dry and man your hands look like mine sowlen to the max 😞 man God job on this video I wish I found that unit broken for repair

  • @kvn95240
    @kvn95240 Před 3 lety

    Agreed!!!

  • @abeditani8293
    @abeditani8293 Před 3 lety

    Is it can be fix by jumper wire?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +1

      Cost wise this is not economical. Also can not guarantee this. I have fixed flexible of boards in the past and they always give trouble. I have also received many that others have attempted to repair and failed again. When i fix something it is expected that it will last for at least a little while. Since i have seen so many flex boards fail again after attempted repairs it is something i stay clear of. Same with fixing traces on circuit boards that are eaten away from leaking caps. Charging someone to fix this just invited you to get married to the device. So I wash my hands of this crap. Years of experience tells me not to do it.

    • @rarbiart
      @rarbiart Před 3 lety

      i am unsure if i'd undertake such effort for a DAT! they all die from worn drums sooner or later. Most enthusiasts burned through multiple drums in the 1990ies. No chance for replacement, since the one in donor machines have hundreds of hours on them too. In plus the tapes are quite rare as well. you end up with a lot of PCM-noise.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      @@rarbiart That's the problem with DAT. Use sparingly these days. I have a spare DA40 and 30 for parts, and both have low hours.

  • @user-cb1ve6ke6y
    @user-cb1ve6ke6y Před 3 lety

    Привет, за видео лайк.

  • @tubeDude48
    @tubeDude48 Před 3 lety +1

    Besides the Ebay issue; SONY is CRAP!!!!

  • @SuperAgentman007
    @SuperAgentman007 Před 3 lety

    I’ve seen dat recorders just like that model you have there is that a $200 unit because I’ve seen like five of those for sale from the same person but they had different ads for each one but they all said the same thing they were 200 bucks and they needed repair I had digital inputs and outputs on them but I see the one you got doesn’t have that myself I do buy electronics from eBay quite a few things I buy somethings are broken when I get them I just repair them like for instance I bought a JVCSRHD 1250 Blu-ray recorder for a measly 200 bucks no it needed repair when I got it all I had to do swap out the hard drive I put in a 500 gig I had laying around I bought a pioneer elite laser disk player for $198 it had power issues when I got it I had to repair it it had a dead short in one of the transformers in it so instead of fiddling around with all the little transformers in it I just went on Google found someone in South Korea with parts and bought two power panels from them it only costed me 78 bucks plus $20 in shipping and I repaired it and it works beautifully plays DVDs as well as laser disks now when I look up this particular model on eBay today it’s almost $1000 I bought a Nikon camera one time from eBay 24 megapixel a mirror in it was out of whack Saw the picture didn’t look too good fuzzy out of focus sometimes it anymore want to take a picture because the warning kept on popping up saying that the mirror wasn’t operating Took me a few hours to fix it and it worked now So you are right in a lot of things that electronic wine that I bought from eBay might be a big risk to purchase because one you don’t know like you said if somebody else tampered with it and screwed it up worse than what it was before hand it’s like playing craps you might crap out and buy a tape deck that you can’t repair I have Bought a tape deck in the past that was a DAT and I couldn’t fix it because it was screwed with before and there was two little gears that were missing now I could’ve contacted my buddy in South Korea to get parts but I only paid $60 for the damn thing so I just use that as a part unit. 😁

  • @john2914
    @john2914 Před 3 lety

    Well I am not sure why you are insulting ebay? buying anything used can go bad. I buy many used items on ebay, and i have had complete descriptions given to me about each item I have bought. Some I bought working and some not working, and have known about everything before buying. Thanks for your nonsense here.

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      I lost 2500 on ebay years ago, and they permitted the fraud and did nothing to protect me, the seller. They basically said too bad so sad. Sucks to be you. Well I say fuck them. Never again will I sell or buy anything on ebay.

  • @SDsailor7
    @SDsailor7 Před 3 lety

    I don't buy from ebay i have heard to many horror stories from there.

  • @RegiPavan
    @RegiPavan Před 3 lety

    The one DAT got on the the trash...

    • @DuncanWEDD2019
      @DuncanWEDD2019 Před 3 lety

      I taught I tore a ribbon cable. Call me naive, as a non-electronics engineer (though fascinated, hence here), but as these ribbons are so crucial and fragile, easily damaged (even the best tech can have a slip), you'd think there would be some sort of standard, or a range of interchangeable, universal replacement ribbon cables (like belts), at least available for a time. All that sophistication, electronics, mechanics, and hard work, binned all for want of a silly li'l thin row of tiny wires all wrapped together in a plastic film.

    • @tedbell4416
      @tedbell4416 Před 3 lety

      @@DuncanWEDD2019 I agree should be some kind of standard and better connections to them that are serviceable

  • @Rejetor
    @Rejetor Před 3 lety +1

    send it to "my mate vince" he has the patience and it would we an interesting video.

  • @williama29
    @williama29 Před 3 lety

    At 0:25 what is with the cat hiss ?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety +1

      Kitty is pissed... At jon the dong sanchuk

    • @williama29
      @williama29 Před 3 lety

      @@12voltvids interesting I like watching your videos

  • @redrooster1908
    @redrooster1908 Před 3 lety

    I see, I click.

  • @BloodAsp
    @BloodAsp Před 3 lety

    Out of pure curiosity, have you ever tried to 'fix' broken flat flex cable?

    • @12voltvids
      @12voltvids  Před 3 lety

      Yes many times. Sometimes suscessfully.

  • @lesrogers7310
    @lesrogers7310 Před 3 lety

    Oh well, you can't win them all i guess.

  • @robinsattahip2376
    @robinsattahip2376 Před 3 lety

    Play a 1khz tone or has some asshole claimed copyright to that too. (smile)

  • @Banditt42
    @Banditt42 Před 3 lety

    I stopped buying off ebay. Too much garbage on it to be trustworthy anymore.

    • @teacfan1080
      @teacfan1080 Před 3 lety +2

      Plus, just because it's "old" must mean it's worth a ton of money!

    • @equid0x
      @equid0x Před 3 lety

      Too many garbage buyers looking for freebies.

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot Před 3 lety

    Dat uncool...