Why Did American Airlines Cancel Its Airbus A350 Order?

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • Back at the beginning of 2018, American Airlines decided to cancel an order for 20 Airbus A350s. This was a bit of a surprise, as the order had been on the books since 2005. So what was the reason for this order cancellation? And was it the right move for the carrier?
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  • @YamiPheonix531
    @YamiPheonix531 Před 2 měsíci +88

    Those Airbus a350 delivery slots are so valuable. For American Airlines to just give up those a350 delivery slots and have to go to the back of the line for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner would mean American Airlines takes much longer to modernize their fleet.

    • @Trainmaster909
      @Trainmaster909 Před 2 měsíci +3

      They should have kept their A350 after delivery until they got their 787s, then sold their A350s.

    • @jgnclvgmng5408
      @jgnclvgmng5408 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Smart people, really smart. The same ones that said they would go to Airbus and get A320/A321s before everyone else in line...

    • @GintaPPE1000
      @GintaPPE1000 Před měsícem +1

      Did you even watch the video?
      No, of course you didn’t, because otherwise you would’ve known the order was for the A350-800 variant, which Airbus canceled and has no plans to resurrect. American had no need of the larger -900 or -1000, and the 787-10 was the only other aircraft in the segment.

  • @bringbackmd7579
    @bringbackmd7579 Před 2 měsíci +79

    Same reason Delta cancelled the 787 order.

    • @PlaneSpotterRVer314
      @PlaneSpotterRVer314 Před 2 měsíci +9

      They’re buying more Airbus A350s and their also adding the MAX 10 to the fleet. They mad the smart choice with canceling the 787 order for A35ks

    • @paulroling1781
      @paulroling1781 Před 2 měsíci +4

      The Max10's are probably part of the cancellation deal.

    • @PlaneSpotterRVer314
      @PlaneSpotterRVer314 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@paulroling1781 it all depends on Boeing. Delta is now expected to start receiving MAX 10s in 2027

    • @jpazinho
      @jpazinho Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@PlaneSpotterRVer314given Boeing track record, the 2027 is contingent on no more crashes and/or other questions around the type's air worthiness

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@jpazinhoit’ll definitely be fixed by 2027. Quality control doesn’t take 3 years to fix.

  • @timbaugh4034
    @timbaugh4034 Před 2 měsíci +133

    American Airlines should have not have cancelled the A350 order

  • @Glegh
    @Glegh Před 2 měsíci +85

    "A350 without the mask doesn't exist, it cant hurt you"
    A350 without the mask: 0:02

  • @Morseshorsey
    @Morseshorsey Před 2 měsíci +13

    US Air merged with America West Airlines, not American West

  • @PlaneSpotterRVer314
    @PlaneSpotterRVer314 Před 2 měsíci +32

    American has done the same thing that United did. They both ditched the A350 and are going towards buying more 787s which in my opinion they should have both kept their A350 orders. The A350s would have benefited their long haul routes even more and they could even put the A350 on their longest of routes but they both decided to cancel.

    • @terrysidhu1078
      @terrysidhu1078 Před 2 měsíci +1

      They should have kept them and crossed crewed them

    • @PlaneSpotterRVer314
      @PlaneSpotterRVer314 Před 2 měsíci

      @@terrysidhu1078 instead both airlines chose the 787

    • @CineZoneYT
      @CineZoneYT Před měsícem

      The a350 is too big and less efficient.

    • @PlaneSpotterRVer314
      @PlaneSpotterRVer314 Před měsícem

      @@CineZoneYT actually the A3)0 is way more efficient than the 787. The Rolls Royce Trent engines is has are the most efficient engines on any jet today

    • @CineZoneYT
      @CineZoneYT Před měsícem +1

      @@PlaneSpotterRVer314 They are efficient on the a350 because they are underpowered 🤣. Airbus is always making their planes underpowered, which is why Delta and Ethiopian are both having problems with the a350 takeoff performance.

  • @da480
    @da480 Před 2 měsíci +53

    Delta was the wisest of the legacies.

  • @ADRIxFTBL
    @ADRIxFTBL Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi simple flying

  • @wadehiggins1114
    @wadehiggins1114 Před 2 měsíci +33

    They will regret canceling this order.

    • @filledwithvariousknowledge2747
      @filledwithvariousknowledge2747 Před 2 měsíci +13

      They hardly lose any sleep over it and haven’t in years in fact

    • @FlyLeah
      @FlyLeah Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@filledwithvariousknowledge2747boeing hasnt been ignoring safety years ago

    • @patriots101
      @patriots101 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@FlyLeah and I ate lasagna yesterday.

  • @ronriesinger7755
    @ronriesinger7755 Před 2 měsíci +7

    America West, not “American West”.

  • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
    @EuropeanRailfanAlt Před 2 měsíci +9

    This was in early 2018, so several months before the start of the Boeing saga. Which no one knew it would happen.

    • @trevorhart545
      @trevorhart545 Před 2 měsíci +3

      NO, Boeing Senior Management and Board KNEW it could happen just hopefully after they took retirement?

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@trevorhart545he definitely means nobody in the public…

  • @JoaoPessoa86
    @JoaoPessoa86 Před 2 měsíci +31

    and now all the 787s are delayed and their summer plans are shot

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +4

      American themselves pushed back delivery of their 787s. That was their decision, there’s a video on this page about it.

  • @CHULAIa4-6667
    @CHULAIa4-6667 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Getting aircraft parts from out of country can become expensive with duty charges and taxes compared to getting them from Seattle.

  • @nigelm1130
    @nigelm1130 Před 2 měsíci

    Boeing really has to get their act together, just looking at the Airbus commonality cockpit lay out and how fast pilots can be cross trained after initial type certification across Airbus families . If American has enough 787 in their fleet and does not need it good for them

  • @cabottaxi
    @cabottaxi Před 2 měsíci +23

    Must have been the politicians getting involved.

  • @wernersalzl1650
    @wernersalzl1650 Před měsícem

    Others became happy!

  • @eddieo4156
    @eddieo4156 Před 2 měsíci +26

    American will eventually need the A350 to replace older 777 aircraft

    • @hectorguillen6357
      @hectorguillen6357 Před 2 měsíci +15

      They’re already looking at the 777X for their older 777 replacements

    • @LordPanda-wz9oq
      @LordPanda-wz9oq Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@hectorguillen6357will take years. Their future plans for routes existing and new routes up in flames. Cancelling A350 order makes no business sense.

    • @PlaneSpotterRVer314
      @PlaneSpotterRVer314 Před 2 měsíci +6

      American will replace its 777-200 fleet with 787-9s. Although the 787-10 is it’s directl replacement

    • @trevorhart545
      @trevorhart545 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@hectorguillen6357 Still BLIND?

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@LordPanda-wz9oqthey are replacing their older 200ERs with 787s and the 300ERs wouldn’t need replacing until at least the early 2030s. The decision made the most sense for American bc they were trying to reduce the number of models within their fleet. And it worked, their aircraft maintenance costs have come down even though their fleet has grown.

  • @GMVIPER74
    @GMVIPER74 Před měsícem

    B787 is cheaper BUT with unknown flaws that will be discovered in the near future......

  • @Ayayau57
    @Ayayau57 Před 2 měsíci +14

    All the Airbus fanboys are angry. I also like Airbus but gosh the comments are hateful towards American, it’s their choice and that’s it. The a350 had already got enough orders for its sake.

    • @maxsaviation9512
      @maxsaviation9512 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You should’ve seen the Boeing fanboys angry at delta for ordering Airbus in the first place.

  • @irtwiaos
    @irtwiaos Před 2 měsíci

    They got their marching orders.

  • @Randomvideos-zi7pe
    @Randomvideos-zi7pe Před 2 měsíci +9

    stubborn loyalty basically

  • @bennettchan3668
    @bennettchan3668 Před 2 měsíci

    Where is cathay pacific

  • @flightfernando
    @flightfernando Před 2 měsíci +4

    🤔Bargain are Bargain, Airbus and Boeing under pressure!!⚠️all are about DISCOUNTS ...Delta and 787, remember.

  • @zibrese
    @zibrese Před 2 měsíci +21

    they should have just gone with the a350

  • @mh12-47
    @mh12-47 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Airline CEOs spend the best part of 2 years deciding what new planes to order only for some CZcams armchair CEO Fanboy to complain that they they have ordered the wrong aircraft

  • @uchikoshi-TL
    @uchikoshi-TL Před 2 měsíci +3

    I was expecting some analysis on this video but it left it up for the comments. Sad.

  • @Patrickair4444
    @Patrickair4444 Před 2 měsíci +2

    well it will fun fly on AmericanAirlines a350.

  • @jonathanpaul4856
    @jonathanpaul4856 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Yes they should have kept the A350 orders.

  • @ag6371
    @ag6371 Před 2 měsíci +7

    They might choose 777X

    • @calou0165
      @calou0165 Před 2 měsíci +7

      yes if he flies one day !!!!

    • @mmm0404
      @mmm0404 Před 2 měsíci

      Deliveries starting next year​@@calou0165

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@calou0165he will fly, just like every other aircraft program gets delayed, so did the 777X. Luckily, Americans doesn’t need any widebody capacity at the moment.

  • @PeterRudesindus
    @PeterRudesindus Před 2 měsíci +4

    I think it is good that some American airlines focus on buying mostly American planes.

  • @bigonicha3225
    @bigonicha3225 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Because they don’t like products that are good like the product they offer on their planes

  • @johnburns6422
    @johnburns6422 Před měsícem

    Life in rural Ukrainian

  • @Lockbox45
    @Lockbox45 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I know I might get some slack for saying this. If you look at the history of choices that U.S. military made in some planes and fighter jets, they let some real good stuff past them by. I'm not surprised they did this. The history still lives on

  • @SirPresidentRoYaL
    @SirPresidentRoYaL Před 2 měsíci

    I wonder why airbus dropped the A350-800

  • @r12004rewy
    @r12004rewy Před 2 měsíci +3

    I would imagine they are regretting that decision now, particularly with the continued delays with the modified 777 but at least they can stay with the 787 in the meantime.

  • @RALPHD57
    @RALPHD57 Před 2 měsíci

    20/20 Yep, they should have kept them...787's delayed...again....

  • @Tpr_1808
    @Tpr_1808 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Now United are constantly deferring

  • @spoon_onfire
    @spoon_onfire Před 2 měsíci +14

    the a350 is so much better than the 787 in almost every way. i dont even trust boeing anymore so they should’ve kept the order

  • @jltrain-zgamingrailfan202x3
    @jltrain-zgamingrailfan202x3 Před 2 měsíci

    Yes, I think they should've followed through. Since American Airlines retired its fleet of A330s in 2020, originally placed by US Airways, its widebody fleet consists of only Boeing aircraft; which could be problematic because of the profits>safety crisis, government oversight, quality control issues, and more which could lead to delays and affect safety; which is now much worse since the airline canceled the A350 order originally by US Airways. What was the point if Airbus had to send one of their A350s to fly over American's headquarters all those years ago?

  • @gustavofernandez7178
    @gustavofernandez7178 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Agree with American decision.

  • @orangeball5312
    @orangeball5312 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Those cancelled A350 orders must have been lookin' really nice now

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Why would they? American recently pushed back their 787 deliveries (there’s a video on this page about it) because they don’t need any new wide bodies at the moment.

  • @user-iz3gv5vo6b
    @user-iz3gv5vo6b Před 2 měsíci +4

    In hindsight, with the 787 Dreamliner quality and safety issues on people's minds, and the large backlog of orders in the industry; yes, they should have kept the A350 orders

  • @deniermurch8693
    @deniermurch8693 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I bet they regret it now.

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +4

      They definitely don’t. They recently deferred deliveries of 787s because they said they don’t need any more widebody capacity at the moment.

  • @lollol-ew6hb
    @lollol-ew6hb Před 2 měsíci +4

    first

    • @zibrese
      @zibrese Před 2 měsíci

      i have seen you on my edits lol

  • @travelcaribbean2009
    @travelcaribbean2009 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Oh American and United, no Airbus widebody’s PERIOD.

  • @maximme
    @maximme Před 2 měsíci

    "supply chain resilience"
    BUT
    not in practice....

  • @dannmm6745
    @dannmm6745 Před 2 měsíci +8

    For the same reason no American carriers bought the A380…
    Political reasons.

    • @wotan10950
      @wotan10950 Před 2 měsíci +6

      So maybe you can explain how Delta, JetBlue, American, United, Spirit, Frontier, and Hawaiian all have large Airbus fleets? Same government, same politics. Your comment does not make sense.

    • @JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke
      @JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke Před 2 měsíci +5

      The same reason NOBODY is buying A380s

    • @GintaPPE1000
      @GintaPPE1000 Před měsícem

      Uh huh. Sure. Must be politics, even though all 3 carriers also didn’t buy any 747-8s either.

  • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
    @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The real reason is that American broke down and took advice from Nicky Oliver. 👀

  • @xskrym
    @xskrym Před 2 měsíci +6

    They chose to be patriotic over safer Airbus planes I guess. Now not only are the wheels coming off, doors and slides too!

    • @filledwithvariousknowledge2747
      @filledwithvariousknowledge2747 Před 2 měsíci

      Then why are they worlds largest A320 family operator?! *Explain that loser*

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That’s why they have ordered over 500 narrowbody aircraft from Airbus in the last 2 decades huh? I swear you guys just say goofy stuff 😂

  • @Mark-uh7cr
    @Mark-uh7cr Před 2 měsíci

    I liked US Airways but they merged too many times and American gobbled them up and ruined the brand.

  • @CaptainKA320
    @CaptainKA320 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Politics come to mind

    • @wotan10950
      @wotan10950 Před 2 měsíci +3

      So maybe you can explain how Delta, JetBlue, American, United, Spirit, Frontier, and Hawaiian all have large Airbus fleets? Same government, same politics. Your comment does not make sense.

  • @carlk3989
    @carlk3989 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Mistake

  • @alonzoj.107
    @alonzoj.107 Před 2 měsíci +8

    It's American's loss, GO Airbus!

    • @mmm0404
      @mmm0404 Před 2 měsíci +9

      It's airbus loss , the customer doesn't lose.

  • @eamonahern7495
    @eamonahern7495 Před 2 měsíci

    Because murica

  • @realadrieno
    @realadrieno Před 2 měsíci +2

    American airlines is definitely the worst US carrier. They have zero diversity in their fleet, they barely even flew the 747.

  • @dhulon09
    @dhulon09 Před 2 měsíci

    AM AIRLINES has cheap poor quality BOEING. So it will not invest in good quality safe A350

  • @zibrese
    @zibrese Před 2 měsíci +2

    second