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- Hello! I'm an American on a quest to learn more about history, geography and the universe in general. In this video I learn all about the history of the slouch hat. I was surprised to learn that Australia wasn't the only country to use it, and just how many times I've seen it worn without realizing it. If you enjoyed this video, please like and subscribe!
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23:33 - Outro
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So you know british forces (and her colonies) where in huge numbers in the pacific, something american history and documentaries Don't comment on. Look into the british carriers compared to American carriers vs Japanese attacks.
Tasmania has had more VC medals per capita than the rest of Australia.
Don't leave them of the map like in the 1982 Brisbane commonwealth games.
Unfortunately Tasmanian soldiers had to punch above there weight because of jokes from mainland states because of the isolation and size of the state.
Due to the harsher conditions they lived in proved they are the heavy weights in all conditions per population.
Unfortunately most movies and shows don't show this.
Normally classified as another states forces.
But at least some records are kept and especially the VC medal
But the main point is that Australia as a whole fought above any expectations.
All Australian troops in battle in the great wars fought bravely.
"look at that picture" That is a photo of one of the Great Pyramids of some of the Anzacs on the way to Gallipoli.
It wasn't really until after WW2 that Britain and the US started working closely come to the 2000s 2021 you see a far more closer or special relationship that seems very much we go hand in hand we are extremely close now and cooperate in everything from economy and culture to military operations, projects like the F-35 and intelligence.
Edit: it's funny giving the Japanese was fight against British in Burma the one enemy that terrified them the most was the Gurhkas.
Without the slouch hat and light horse there would be no Israel;
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Check out the charge here;
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I worked on making the film in the Flinders Ranges of South Australia.
When watching Australian films, it's all about the landscape and the light.
My great grandfather was a member of e South Australian regiment;
sahistoryhub.history.sa.gov.au/things/south-african-war-memorial
I highly recommend the movie "Breaker Morant"
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Fyi, the allies were wary of the South Africans during WW2 because of the deep German roots of the Boers.
Being Ex Australian Army Digger - I was proud and honoured to wear the Slouch Hat.
I was with the 4/19th Light horse we wore Berets as we where affiliated with the 1st Armoured and Turret heads don't wear slouchies
@danny hawk lol
I loved my grade 2, it was an actual Akubra and just naturally fell into a Bush Tucker Man shape, no matter how I bashed it.
Thanks for in the trenches,if something happens..now days no one wants to join the add...
@@somebloke3869 got mine mid 2014, sgts used to make us iron it flat then it would rain and get that nice bend in it within 5 minutes. Used to try and charge us if the bend was more than 2cms from the brim.
The Boer wars were fought between Britain and the Boers (Dutch settlers in South Africa). The first war was fought in the 1880s and the second one was fought from 1899-1902.
British Empire ie Britain and Colonies - specifically in this case with troops from Canada, India, Australia & New Zealand
go back farther than that, love. the musselmen were trying to get a foot hold in the south. the western mob, mainly anglo dutch, were scrapping for years. now, the black fella will win out. might take a million years, like. who's got the rrrrr ?
@@blackbob3358 interesting!
My Great Uncle served in the Boer War, World War 1 and World War 2.... (he thought that The Breaker was railroaded, served at Ypres and also with White Russians on the Western Front - yes, the WESTern front - and Egypt. Almost got sent to Gallipoli but was reassigned at the last minute). He tried to get to Korea but they (the army) realized by then (finally!) that he had lied about his age twice already..... Gas from 1916 finally got him almost 100 years later!
Their is an Australian Movie called Breaker Morant that could help with some more info on the Boer war.
A big difference between Australian and American history education. In Australia, we learn local history, European history, North American history and Asian history. We also have a fundamental knowledge of African and South American history. America is completely US-centric so the global knowledge in history, geography and politics is practically zero, apart from professionals that specialise in these fields.
Would totally agree, same here in Scandinavia, history education covers the world a lot...
It is not just enough what you learn at school. These things are leant about throughout your life. Sometimes without remembering much about them from school at all. So I guess the slant on what history is worth knowing often remains throughout all our lives depending on country.
It's shocking how Americans can know so little about world history.
@@ookeekthelibrarian they are not taught it in schools. I was once asked if the American president ruled Australia. Trying not to choke on my drink I had to explain that contrary to what thought it was not the case. And that Australia is part of the British commonwealth formally the British empire.
The lass that asked was a 1st year college student studying law.
Her lack of knowledge was due to their education system
@@rhonamallard6918 Ok that made me choke on my tea LOL
south Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada provided some of the toughest Empire troops in World War 1 and 2. The Indian army and the Gurkhas were also tough soldiers.
The Rats of Tobruk and the Scrap Iron Flotilla are some fine examples of Australian contributions.
Well australia gave the axis powers germany and japan their first major defeats haha
@@ritaDas-xl4kz too bloody right mate!
@@damienmaynard8892 Well as an indian i know what our old Australian friends can do 👍
The Nepalese Ghurkas were the most feared soldiers. They were the masters of psychological warfare on the Japanese.
Would sneak into Japanese camps killing everyone and leaving the guards alive.
As an Australian I really appreciate seeing people from the US learn about our history. We have our stereotypical culture and how the world sees us but we are a heck of a lot deeper than we seem and have a very patriotic history even if we arent as overt about it as the US.
If you interested in early Australian history, research “breaker Morant”
Rule 303 means "take no prisoners" referencing the 303 calibre ammo used in the rifles to shoot enemies.
Breaker Morant is a devastating movie, as is Gallipoli. Must-see Australian classics.
Strongly recommend "Breaker Morant", a great movie starring Edward Woodward, Bryan Brown and Jack Thompson.
Good movie that takes poetic license about a true incident.
But…..
A real true ,more relevant and important Soccer topic is “John Safran vs God -Socceroos cursed in 1970 World Cup”.Comedy gold.
"Shoot straight you bastards. Don't make a mess of it"
Not a forgotten history to me, I served 13 years in the Australian Army.
18years myself, and then another 4 as an IOC. "If you aint Cav, you just aint" :D
@@gibsonethirty2836 That you both for your service
8 years myself RACT and currently OOC
@@michaelcavanough3539 and thank you for your service
@@gibsonethirty2836 what cadet unit were you involved with im at 123 at caboolture now since my discharge
What he didn't mention at all in the first half, is that the Australian brand and style of hat is called the Akubra, made originally from rabbit fur. Made by an English Migrant to Australia back in the late 1800's. The Akubra is what you see the military using, when they pinned it to one side it donned the name Slouch Hat.
The Akubra hat is worn across Australia still to this day, and it is funny when we hear people refer to them as a cowboy hat. They are completely different shape, style and make and most refer to them as the Stockman's Hat.
Nowadays Akubra's are made of all sorts of materials. Mine is Leather and quite durable for both hot and cold weather and I've had it for 22 years and other than a few scratches it is still near perfect.
15:11
During this period in history Australia was not even a country, the country to day named Australia was at this time in history 6 different British colonies.
Australia became a country in 1901 when the British parliament passed the "Australian constitution ACT" bring 6 British colonies together to make one country, Australia.
It's not that rest of the anglosphere country's were more involved with the British armed forces than the US, they were literally part of the British armed forces and part of Britain. There was no such thing as an Australian citizen till 1920, and the 1920 laws basically codified the concept of British subject into Australian law.
It was not till 1948 that there became a legal distinction between an Australian citizen and British citizen. Before 1948 all Canadians, Australia's, New Zealanders and the British had one single nationality status 'British subject'.
The concept of there being this distinction between Australia and the UK is an extremely new concept that only really came about after the end of WW2.
That's why the guy in this video accredited with bringing the slouch hat to Australia got the idea whilst serving as a British Colonial police officer in Burma. He didn't go and work for the police of a foreign country, he lived in one colony of Britain so he went and work in a different British colony.
Edit, on a side not, George Orwell at one point also served as a British Colonial police officer in Burma at one point.
great explanation, I'm learning a lot about my own country, thanks
She gets upset about killing emus, not knowing we lost a war against them...
Shhh, we don't talk about that.
Don't mention the war!
Yes, I've never forgiven the Emus, even the pet one I have is suspect.
I for one welcome and respect our emu overlords and masters.
@@geoffmaloney2717 na mate, you mean the Casswaries! Those buggers are pure evil on two legs I'll tell ya!
It's considered an honour to wear the slouch hat and I am proud to have worn one when I was in the Army Reserve...
I still have my Akubra Slouch Hat from when I served (Akubra is an Australian Hat company that for years used to have the contract for making Slouch Hats) When you got them they were "not bashed" meaning you had to shape them yourself. These days they come pre bashed. You're issued two slouch hats, one for general duty that you wear side down and your "Grade one" which is for ceremonial dress and duties. The First Battalion Royal Australian Regiment has a Green Puggaree and have an interesting story behind how they got it.
Good on you, Digger.
The nz army still wears slouch hats as part of their dress uniform except for very formal occasions where they wear lemon squeezers
Those lemon squeezers are the most rediculous looking things.
The reason we only pluck a feather is that the last time the Australian army tried killing emu they got their arses kicked. (See: Australian Emu War)
Great-uncle Nev would never talk about it.
I'm sorry but those records no longer exist... now can I borrow a lighter? I wanna practice flicking a smoke at this pile of old paperwork
Mate, go easy with this shite........ the Lighthorsemen wore their “kangaroo feathers” in their slouch hats with honour..... Tschuess aus Australien.
The pic (when you said "look at that picture") was of Australian soldiers standing on one of the pyramids in Egypt either before or just after the Galipoli campaign. My great grand father was there, Harry Sinkins :-) Yes an incredible photo
That's amazing! such wonderful family history to know :D
Hopefully he knew how to spell Gallipoli since he was apparently there.
@@jordantaylor260 and,,,,hopefully Jordan gets a ife
@@marklocke5678 Christ I hate boomers. Bunch of up yourself, fascistic wankers. My grandfather fought in New Guinea during WWII. You don’t have the sole right to nationalistic pride. “Get a life”. Lol. Get a new bit, some originality and a modicum of acerbic wit, you carbon copy.
@@jordantaylor260 A little triggered... lol. The problem is most of you are emasculated mummy's boys
I think you would enjoy learning about "rats of tobruk" in ww2, an anzac force that was under siege by erwin rommel for 8 months (iirc)
The First to defeat the Germans and Japanese in WW2
@@mylesdobinson1534 and a volunteer force,or chocos in new Guinea
@@roybennett6330 Yep My uncle Stan was at Milne Bay 🇦🇺
@@mylesdobinson1534 infantry?,gunner? Tell me more..my dad missed out,was in Portsmouth home guard, worked at the docks,and saw it All.tge yanks coming,the blitz,and Pluto..then joined the royal Navy,subs..1946/58...miss him.i love the veterans tales..they were a special breed..not like today where people winge about the virus being stuck in a hotel for two weeks... luxury!
My oath she would,the diggers and poms gave Germany/Rommel a bloody nose..and she could watch the diggers at long tan, Vietnam
If you are interested in Australian Military History have a look at General John Monash, from WW1 who was the first to develop mechanical warfare. Finally after a 100 years he is getting the recognition for his innovation.
He needed very brave soldiers to follow his innovative commands
The US wasn’t involved simply because it wasn’t a member of the British Empire.
Speaking of Australia, have you reacted to anything about the Emu War?
Spoiler alert! The human army lost!! 😂
Yeah that was an...interesting one 😄
shhh lol
Please no
The terror is intergenerational. Let's try and bury this
16:08 At that time Australia, New Zealand & Canada were part of Britain or the British Empire with England at the head for want of a better term.
The Emu plume was only worn by the Australian Light Horse to the best of my knowledge.
Correct and its pronounced EEEMMmm - UUUU not E - MOO, gess that really shits me when people get it so wrong FFS its 3 letters people!!!
No one going to say anything about the Emu War?
Edit: Never mind. Looked a little further down and saw it.
I Take my hat off to you (pun intended), as an American, for taking the time and Effort for doing your own research on this matter and for being interested in modern history in general. Perhaps you could go on to university and become and renown historian with a PhD. Wishing you ALL the best from Australia.
Congrats on 20k subscribers. The History Guy is a great channel, as well as his hat obsession he has a lot of good stuff about individual small actions in the World Wars (especially involving aircraft or ships) and quirky moments of history.
You might be interested to know that both Australia and Canada lost more of their sons than the US did in ww1
The Aussies and Kiwis were also in Africa, Europe and the Pacific regions in WW2
Vor Beck actually fought one of the most successful guerilla warfare in history in WW1 and was fighting in Africa right up to the end of the war
Hugely impressive campaign, the only German colony to manage to keep up the fight against the old British strategy that we’d been using against other colonial powers since the 7 years war
The most interesting thing i read about it is that after WW1 germany actually paid pensions to the former soldiers of a certain tribe they recruited for the forces of Lettau-Vorbeck. (they made up the non german forces) The payments were paused between 33 and at least 45 i think (for obvious reasons) but were continued until the last veteran of them had died after WW2.
(I don't know much about colonial treatement but this was the first time i ever heard that a colonial power/former colonial power/sucessor country paid pensions to colonial troops of that aera.)
Don’t think it’s forgotten history. My head dress for 20 years.
There is a difference between modern usage and the history behind it.
I've still got my grade 1 and grade 2 KFF's. Never knew the true history of it until the Forgotten History video came out.
The Boers. The southern cape of Africa was first discovered by the Portuguese in the 15th c. Later the Dutch had it as a colony. Then the British moved in and added it to their empire. The Dutch colonists, known as Boers, didn't like being ruled by the British, so trekked over the mountains and established the Orange Free State. ( Orange is the Dutch national colour, and free from British control. They also established a neighbouring state called The Transvaal, over a river. Trouble started when gold and diamonds were discovered in these regions. A lot of British adventurers moved into the Dutch colonies to prospect, and frictions developed. Accusations of mistreatment and bad behaviour lead to war. The 2nd boer war erupted in 1899. ( I don't know much about the first one, perhaps it's connected to the initial trek by the Dutch out of south Africa. ) The boer war was an eye opener for Britain, as the Boers ran rings around them for a year or two. Heavy handed tactics eventually prevailed. Winston Churchill served in the war, as did Baden-Powell who founded the boy scouts. Britain found itself isolated and disapproved of by all the other European nations, so began actively looking for allies. Eventually it signed a treaty with France which would have repercussions in 1914.
First discovered by the Portuguese, eh? In the 15th century? That'll be fvcking news to the Arabs, the Greeks, the Phonecians, and the locals living there for the last several hundred thousand years.
@@iatsd He said the Southern Cape of Africa, not the entire continent. Down at the Southern Cape there were no Arabs, Greeks or Phoenicians. They were all in the North. And yes there were indigenous people there, but for European nations it was all new information, and therefore a discovery for them. The Portuguese were the first Europeans to sail right around, stop off, and report back about what they found. But there is evidence that earlier than that Arab traders had sailed down the East coast, and had reached quite far South, but not all the way down to the Southern Cape.
@@okeinoz4450 I see reading isn't your strong suit. I didn't say there were any Arabs, Greeks, or Phoenicians living there. Look at the sentence again: it's referring to "discovering" and on that basis, all 3 had travelled to and/or around the cape by the time the Portuguese eventually showed up. As for the locals, yes, there were indeed locals. But he made no mention of them: he simply STATED that the Portuguese had discovered the place. *You're* reading into it that he was only considering external discoverers. There's NOTHING in what HE ACTUALLY WROTE to indicate that.
Just as an aside .. The Boers won the first Boer war and kicked out most of the British people who had settled in the Transvaal after gold and diamonds were discovered there .. but as per usual .. the British decided they wanted the place and sent men in as miners to cause trouble and so the second Boer war started because of Dutch "mistreatment" and social laws which they passed in the intervening years .. btw if u didn't know it those laws they passed were copies or re-writings of anti-Chinese laws passed in the Australian colonies for the benefit of Australian gold miners (most of which were British and American anyway) .. those laws became the kernel of the Apartheid laws which were also copied and refined from the Australian laws passed between 1901 and about 1910 when Australia became a federated country .. in Australia we call them the "White Australia Policy" If people are more interested in this then they should read a book called "Drawing The Global Colour Line:
White Men's Countries and the Question of Racial Equality" by Henry Reynolds and Marilyn Lake.
The Boer war was in South Africa
There were actually two Boer's wars (1880-1881 and 1899-1902), and with completely different outcomes
it was where Concentration Camps was first used (invented by the British).
@@jeanlongsden1696 Yeah it kind of was pushing things too far. In the past armies would take hostages, but generally, these hostages/prisoners were treated well. This would then ensure that the other side also treats prisoners/hostages well. ... Also in the past burning down and pillaging villages could be used to draw out and make an enemy fight/defend the village. Britain sort of combines these two ideas. But to make it work the "treating well" part had to be dropped. Yup, that is definitely an escalation of things. These weren't done in secret like WW2 ones were. So there is a big distinction there.
@@jeanlongsden1696 internment camps, bad idea from the top brass or politicians.
@@dave_h_8742 it was Concentration camps. Internment camps are just like a holding area, where life goes on as normal. a bit like if you cordoned off a town.
Cavalry means horses (for centuries), yes, but also means "speed"/"faster units" and nowadays they have changed their horses for helicopters...
There's also the matter of unit history. Some units trace their traditions back hundreds of years, back into times when horse-mounted troops were actual good idea on a battlefield. In time, advances in warfare made horses obsolete, and mechanization was applied - mounting "cavalrymen" in armored cars, trucks, armored personnel carriers and even full-blown tanks (depending whether their intended role was scouting, fast mobile infantry, or even heavy assault force... not unlike the heavily-armored riders on horseback they took their traditions after).
When horses were done away with in the British army a lot of cavalry regiments were given tanks.
And fast light tanks
You're taking it from a US Vietnam evolution perspective I see
Arent tanks considered cavalry as well?
My grandfather wore the "Slouch Hat" with the feathers in WW1. He fought at Beer sheba ( 7 wells in hebrew ) He was part of the 4th !ight horse the 800 horseman that charged the wells 2 save them from the ottoman & germanic empires. You might consider purchasing a book titled "the 800 horseman" by col stringer.
Hats khaki fur felt for the use off. Pluss Puggariee and Chin Strap with brass buckle. ( the brass buckle is place exactly on the corner of the mouth and is used to line up the troops in a straight line when forming up) Comes un bashed and you have to Bash it yourself by wetting the crown, than applying a stragic karate chop to the top, than placing a match box or two into the crease than your hand to squeeze in the sides. This makes every slouch hat individual, to each soldier no two looks the same though simula and some more sexier than others. Made from rabbit fur. It is naturally water proof. In my day the rising sun was not worn, only the corps badge on the side only ( as in your pick) and the side was never tuned down, though we only wore it for parades etc. In the field we wore the Giggle hat, otherwise we wore a navy beret.
In your pick the two guys at the front look like RAEME Royal Australia Electronic and Machanical Engineer's based on the blue Lanyard and what shape I can make from the pick, though it's not clear, those wearing the Red Lanyards could be anything, Though A Red Lanyard once denoted 4RAR. I wore both in my career.
modern soldiers who fight in armoured vehicles.
"a cavalry regiment"
Not even remotely true as a guide. it's far more complex than that
@@iatsd then there's the whole AirCav vs Armored Cav.
The US Air Cavalry fly helos. Makes sense.
one of my prized possessions is my fathers slouch hat, he was not though an australian soldier he served in the yorks and lancs regiment in the 14th army, they served in burmah during the second world war.
And rightly proud of him you should be, I don't know you but I am proud of him
@@crouqetoo2 proud is an understatement Babru believe me
the fact that y'all skip half the history of these major wars is insane, real shame you miss out
I made thousands upon thousands of slouch hats when i was a miliner. Sooo many!!
The guy you are watching here does a good short story on John Monash.
I still have my slouch hat that I was issued when I enlisted in the Australian Army in 1990
The most dashing hat ever devised!
The Second Boer War was the first war that Australia fought as a single Australian nation following the establishment of the Australian Federation on 1 January 1901.
My father, a Kiwi was in the European Theatre of WW2 and POW in Germany, in his POW camp were thousands of other POW's from Britain, South Africa, Canada, Australia and the US. In the camp, the US troops were kept separate from the other Commonwealth countries for some reason. I have the names and addresses of everyone that was in his room and they are mostly Brits and Canadians - he was the only Kiwi.
The History Guy is one of my favorite channels, mostly because of his impeccable research. And he does love his hats!😊
What is an "eemoo"? Is he talking about an Emu? Yeah, it is pronounced "eem-you"...
yeah I hate hearing that.
JJ
To put it simply use the pronunciation name of the letters "e" plus sound or phonic of "m" plus the name of this letter "u".
YARH the yanks have no idea of pronunciation and most don't want to earn.
The meaning remains the same the air cavalry moved from horses to the Huey helicopter
I love the history you are doing on Australia SoGal love it and love channel and keep the good work ❤️
History Guy certainly researches his history very thoroughly. You always learn new facts every time with him.
What's one of the sayings about Australia? 'Everything here can kill you' or something to this effect?
Wow what a fascinating place!
This is a myth.
some of the sheep are actually harmless.
Many creatures can kill you anywhere in the world. On average snakes, crocs and sharks only kill a small handful per year on average and in many years zero human fatalities are recorded. Horses are in fact the biggest killers of humans in Australia followed by bees, domestic dogs and cattle. Just to put things into perspective.
@@voiceofraisin3778 damn you. Hahaha.
@@lyndonmaddison5860 Yeh I make particular semi-cynical note of 'domestic dogs' .
The popular notion adds to Australia's allure I think.
@@voiceofraisin3778 Snort!
In the early stages of Australia's involvement in the Vietnam War, our slouch hats were very marketable items for US souvenir hunters. They could attract high prices (I never sold mine).
Kangaroo feathers too.
@@darrenhunt9049 Now they were scarce items!
Good on you, Digger, for holding onto your slouch hat.
@@peterfromgw4615 I can't say I wasn't tempted. However, I would have had to provide a lost or damaged kit report. I'm not sure I could have cooked up an excuse the Quartermaster hadn't heard many times before!
@@darrenhunt9049 LMFAO
British Officer: "Don't you men salute!?!"
Aust Private: "Not a lot, we're trying to give it up"
TV Series Anzacs. :)
It’s a Southern thing. Montgomery was driving past some Kiwi troops. He said to Freyberg (the NZ Commander).
“Don’t your men salute?”
Freyberg replied “wave to them. They’ll probably wave back.”
British troops wore the slouch hat in Burma, there were more US troops in Burma than Australians. Australian were heavily involved in New Guinea as part of the South West Pacific Area commanded by MacArthur which contained the vast bulk of the Australian army. Lt Gen Richard Sutherland (MacArthur's Chief of Staff) at his retirement speech stated that in 1942 and 1943 it was Australians that did the majority of the fighting (MacArthur's command was mostly Australians then). US troops first served under Australian command July 4th 1918 at the battle of Hamel. The History Guy has a video on this about John Monash, the Australian general they were assigned to, that explains it. Later the US II Corps was assigned to Monash to break the Hindenburg Line. This is US history that seems not to be taught and US troops have served under Australian command multiple times since and the Deputy Commander US Army Forces Pacific is usually an Australian general.
G'day. My understanding of the term "air cavalry" comes from a little film called Apocolpse Now. They like napalm in the morning.
Mel Gibson movie - We Were Soldiers, based on the US Air Cav and the Batlle of Ia Drang Valley. Basically describes the birth of AirCav and it's doctrine.
AirCav pre-dates Apocalypse Now. The term "cavalry" comes from the function they carry out, whether they use horses, ground vehicles or helicopters.
I admire your drive and curiosity to learn. Brava.
Love seeing the Aussie vids. Keep up the great work. 👍
The war he is talking about the Boar War in South Africa. We (Australia) was still apart of the British Empire during the Boar War hence why we were forced into the Britain wars before 1901
thats right, the commonwealth didnt exist yet, at least not as as we think of it today. Australia was not yet a federation of states, but dependent colonies of the Brittish Empire. The Brittish Empire had not yet evolved into the Commonwealth that we have today. I get the impression that the Australian colonies actually federated into a country during the 2nd Boer War - ie. 1901. So, the 2nd Boer war was the very first war that the Commonwealth of Australia fought in as a federated country.
Likewise, Canada, though self-governing since 1867, was still a British "Dominion" and thus was automatically at war with anyone Britain was at war with. Canada did not gain the right to make her own declarations of war until the 1930s.
A Boar is a pig. A Boer is a Dutch descendant white settler in Southern Africa.
Specifically this is why Aussies fighting in that war were mixed in the rest of the British army. This was part of why Gallipoli was a big deal, Australia and new Zealand were separate armies under aussie and kiwi control for the first time
@@shadowmaster1313 incorrect, low ranking officers were Australian/ Kiwi most major officers who gave the orders were British
As an Aussie, it's pleasantly surprising and refreshing to hear you want to find out more about Aussies and beloved Kiwis :) It's a wondrously mixed history these countries have got. It's great to learn about different histories - a good way to better oneself and discover new ways of thinking :) Mad props, SoGal!
The Australians fought shoulder to shoulder with US troops in Papua New Guinea
Nick Stevens
The yanks came in after Kokoda track (yes, "TRACK") was fought for and won by the Aussies.
SoGal you missed Tasmania of the map.
Maybe she has the same view of Tasmania as mainland Australia does :p
The Victorian Contingent.
Before 1901 each of the Australian colonies had their own defence force, mostly they operated as a police force but Victoria being the richest colony due to the gold rush had a standing army and navy.
Little known fact, in 1871 the Victorian navy commissioned the most powerful battleship in the world HMVS Cerberus. Victoria was so rich that the Royal Navy borrowed money from the government to finance their new monitor class battleships and Victoria got the first one.
I was taught in cadets, Australians wear a slouch hat to prevent knocking it off when we salute
It's pinned on the left and we salute on the right though? We used it as a way to know where to hold our hand when we saluted, knowing which fingers to keep the edge of the brim between
@@omgsplosiongg Thanks, I appreciate you making the effort to correct me.All I can say in my defence is cadets was obviously a long time ago.
@danny hawk 123-1 my dude
I thought it was so you could sling your rifle on the left?
May I suggest checking out Les Hiddins, (the bush tucker man), he’s a really interesting bloke.
I wore the slouch hat for six years. It was explained to us that the slouch hat came about in the early days due to lack of equipment issued. Most inductees were farmers who wore Acubra hats with the brim down and the top "bashed" into a triangle. When enlisted, they re-bashed with a straight dip and the side pinned up on the side with the unit badge. Different companies produced these but most today are made by Acubra. We were issued the hats unformed and we dipped them into a mixture of water, sugar and vinegar and formed the shape, then let it dry.
it was the Boer war before Australia became federated, my Grandfather served in the Boer war with the 3rd New South Wales mounted rifles, then later on he served in the Australian 1st Light Horse Regiment.
"People are not wearing enough hats". Monty Python.
"What was that about hats, again". Also Monty Python
It beats me how anyone could do a video on the Australian military, and the slouch hat without mentioning the lighthorsemen at Beersheba.
Right? One of the top ten military feats in all of history. Hard to ignore.
Beersheba is were Australian and New Zealand free Israel late in world war 1 .There a lot more to this ,
Hats, KFF. Kahki, Fur Felt.
The ceremonial and the grade 2. The grade 2 is what you wear when you're not on parade, e.g. when you're in what the US military calls "fatgiues" or out bush, if you're still allowed to do that. Grade 2's are usually worn with the brim down and often a downward curve at the front of the brim. Not sure if they are still allowed to wear them in the field - they used to be in the 90 and I think pre GWOT.
The felt is mad of rabbit fur. The one that was issued to me was made by RM Williams, who are more famous for their boots, japara raincoats and mole skin pants. I ended up in the armoured corps, who wear berets. If you got caught with a slouch hat at the Armoured Center the corporals would jump on them, cut them up or burn them, so I sent mine home straight after basic training and eventually gave it to a visitin Canadian WWII veteran, but I wish I had kept it.
That is Teddy Rooseveldt. I guess US schools don't teach US history either.
Cavalry is a role. Cavalry are used for reconnaissance, screening, covering force operations , raids and other highly mobile roles. The horse cavalry became motorised and then armoured and eventually the air cav.
The air cav - when it was actually a cavalry unit in the Viet Name and cold ware period had a fairly significant ground compont - about 3 parts air to 1 part ground.
Around 12:44 he is talking about the Boer War.
The horse of the Australian light horse/cavalry is the Waler.
Lancers before you ask are a type of cavalry - light cavalry.
Australian caval;ry still carry lances during some ceremonial occaissions instead of rifles. Which is nice because the lance is way lighter than a rifle and you don't have to clean them.
During the Boer war Australia did not exist as a nation. It was a number of british colonies, which federated in 1901 and became a single country - the Commonwealth of Australia. 14 years later we had Gallipoli and the nation was blooded and our most sacred legend was born.
The US are blinkered - you basically don't think the rest of the workd exists at least not enough to thing about. Australia was not involved in most of world histopry but we still know about it. The US is insular. Although there are very well educated and urbane Americans I don't think most of the world think of Americans in that way, simply because the majority of you don't appear to be.
You're like the Romans of the modern world, the majority want cheap bread and circuses and don't care about the rest of the world while your elite is exploiting and trashing the rest of the world. That in case you're not aware is why people hijack planes and fly them into your buildings. In case you get the idea I'm anti American, I'm not. You guys really have no idea about the rest of the world. Not wanting to be a dick, and youre nice people but as nation that influences so much of the world you collectively know so little about it.
BTW The US fought in China and Burma. Google "The Flying Tigers" and "Vinegar Joe Stilwell", "Merrill's Marauders".
As an ex service man some little info on the slouch hat and its shape, the hat is issued to the solder looking much like the hat used by hoss in bonanza, the shape then needs to be bashed to form the shape on top and ironed with starch to make the rim flat, then folded up on the left side to get this iconical shape seen today. the hat was originally made from rabbits fur. there is also a thin leather chin strap that must be worn on the end of the chin, this is the dress hat, the hat diggers us in the field is called a bush hat and looks like the one used on Gilligan in Gilligan's island, if the slouch hat is worn in field it is called a class 2 hat and does not have the side turned up this is when the side slouch.
You appear to be mixing up wars under Queen Victoria, of which there were many, and wars involving troops from the colony called "Victoria", now part of Australia, of which the Boer war, fought in South Africa was certainly the most well known.
There has never been a war in the colony, now State, of Victoria.
Closest was probably the Eureka Stockade. From memory there was at least one American involved and I think Mark Twain witnessed it or was thereabouts.
I served with 1/15 RNSWL who were the first Australian unit (light hourse) to serve in South Africa. We wear the slouch hat from from 1885 until the WW2 when we served in tanks. Today we wear the slouch hat again with the emu feather as we work as light recon. Most of the Australian army units still wear the sloutch hat.
My great grand father fought in the 1st Australian Horse Regiment in the 2nd Boer War as a trooper. He came back with the view that the Boers were the best bushmen in the world.
You really really need to watch 2 major US related events. The quasi-war with france and the Barbery Wars where the USN first set a mark. like in the song: "From the Halls of Montezuma. To the shores of Tripoli" there is a reason the USMC Hymn has Tripoli in it
The history of the colonization of africa and asia is imo realy interessting and helps you understand a lot of conflicts that happend and still happen in those areas.
I would love to see a video about the history of Hongkong.
As an Australian.... it's commonly said "late again?" America joined WWI in 1917, WWII in 1941.... there were American volunteers in both conflicts.
Heard an old coot in the legion (trafalgar) in Victoria BC talking to himself as i left to go back to my destroyer HMCS Yukon. He said to no one in particular:'The great American Doughboyi he was kneaded in 1914 and didn't rise till 1917 was kneaded in 1939 didn't rise till 41. Amused me i must admit :)
@@14hook I keep thinking of a recurring line in a New Zealand comedy called "Seven periods with Mr Gormsby", basic premise of the program (two series of seven ½hr episodes) is an old teacher, Mortimer Gormsby (everyone calls him Sir, or Gormsby by management), is employed by an all-boys school to teach predominantly one class (home room) called 5F, which is 5th form or Seniors comprising majority Maori and Islander students, with a few token others. One boy is the ring leader for the class, is perennially late, obstinate and distracted in class... hence the line "Late again, Hohepa..." The series is effectively a critique on how education has become so politically correct, by putting an absolute dinosaur of a politically incorrect teacher into a modern classroom... Gormsby is so old that he did national service, and served in Malaya and Vietnam, his mantra was "I don't teach syllabus, I teach lessons"... his class was assigned the task of organising car parking for the school's open day, so he teaches them combat skills, such as how to strip and clean an assault rifle blindfolded, how to safely repel from height... in the second season it is revealed he was a Major in the Intelligence corps.
American soldier calls for a beer in a French bar. Aussie calls out to Yank, No worries mate, your's is on the end of the bar. Got a bit of dust on it though.
I really enjoy watching your reaction to our country because alot of people from your country really have put us down in the past. We have backed America on a number of occasions, there is alot of history behind it. Plz remember that I said alot of Americans not all...thank you for your great efforts. God bless🙏🐨👍❤️🇭🇲
German General Rommel said " If I had to take Hell I would use the Australian's to take it and the New Zealander's to hold it"
There you go!
Don’t underestimate ANZACs!
One of my uncles was a Rat of Toburk and he was very proud being called a Rat. He would occasionally relate a story or two of his experiences there. Also had respect for the Germans......
This is actually a myth. There is zero proof Romell said that. What he did say in his diaries is "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners were marched off close beside us - immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an élite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle" Not quite as catchy but a compliment all the same.
@@glenmale1748 True. The other thing is a myth. It annoys me because Aussie and Kiwi soldiers don’t need fake stories. Their merit stands.
Does that hold then that if there is no proof that he said it, that there isn’t proof that he didn’t say it!
The British Ghukers wear them and the British troops fighting the Japanese in the Far East wore them in WW2
Great to see so many Aussies have stopped by to comment. 11 years RAInf for me. FYI America WAS involved in the China/Burma theatre. Gen Joe Stillwell ["Vinegar Joe"] commanding CHinese troops. But the main US contribution was flying supplies "over the Hump" before the Ledo Road was complete. The Quartermaster nomenclature for the slouch hat is an HKFF = Hat, Khaki, Fur, Felt.
The crease in the middle comes from where we hung onto it. While getting thrown into the grinder, along side our kiwi and canadian cousins.
When the emus attacked. We lost the first emu war. Now theres always a feather in every soldiers hat to commemorate that fateful day.
"Wearing a Slouch Hat will turn you into a goddam sexual tyrannosaurus, Just like me." Blain Cooper - Predator 1987
Brilliant movie
“Strap this on your sore ass, Blain!”
@@guylewis7418 "I ain't got time to bleed!"
Bi corn and tri corn are still worn, in ceremonial functions. Talking about wars in South Africa, Zulu wars and Boer war, Dutch settlers were the Boers. Watch the film, one of many fights, out there, Zulu stars a young Michael Caine.
America was also involved in Burma ,India and China against the Japanese. The American general was Stillwell if my history is correct
Claire Lee Chenault led the American Volunteer Group (AVG also known as the “Flying Tigers”) active just after Pearl Harbor. General Joseph Stilwell served in China for most of WWII, General Frank Merrill, Merrill’s Marauders, were active in the Burma theater. U.S.10th Air Force flew critical supplies over the Himalayas (over the hump) to resupply field forces in China and U.S. Army engineer units built the “Ledo Road” linking India to China.
Americans fought in Burma with great distinction - read up on Merrill's Marauders [my spelling might be a bit off], it had the highest casualty rate of any armed force in history. A bit of trivia about the slouch hat - the band on it is called a 'puggeree', from the Hindi word for a turban. It was only worn ceremonially when I was in the Army in the early 80's and there was a fair bit of work in looking after it. You had to starch and iron it each time you wore it, keep it in a dust-free box, get it re-blocked periodically - and corporals would always scream at you because you could never get it to look quite perfect enough. It wasn't the day-to-day hat; in the light infantry - the foot-sloggers, we walked everywhere - we wore a 'rifle green' beret [rifle green was a dark sea-green, darker than the beret that the American special forces wear] with a kangaroo-in-laurel-leaves badge
When you are watching Videos and come across things you do not understand why don't you pause and look things up, that way you might really learn, rather than irritating your watchers. Incidentally the US has plenty of involvement in Africa, though underhandedly using the CIA.
Surely the whole point is that this is a reaction channel?! One watches it to see SoGal interact with the original video and with her own viewers. Not irritating in the least - in fact it's the main reason I follow this channel!
I kind of agree with the research bit. A little research would allow you to ask more pointed questions and not sound so clueless.
Also the first Battle American troops fought in the European Theatre in WW2 was against the Vichy French in North Africa.
Australians have fought side by side with the USA and as part of the British Empire/Commonwealth for over 100 years and are proud of our links with our Commonwealth brothers and sisters and our USA partners. For a bit of history you might like this short video
czcams.com/video/8ZHlO0Sj3lA/video.html
You really should rewind a bit when you stop the video because that is where you are missing bits of the commentary.
17:30 where you said "wow, look at that picture. It is the Australian forces sitting on the steps of the Pyramid in Egypt.
As an Australian, thanks for caring.
The Boer War and Second Boer War were pre World War One and its serise of conflicts the British would largely rather forget it was a brutal and saw many crimes.
The brutality (perpetrated on both sides) included the first use of what were termed "concentration camps", by the British against Boer civilians, including women and children.
I never knew the American's used it !!!! Thank you SoGal ive learnt something new today
the Noer war South Africa. During WW2, the hat badge read " Australian imperial forces. " After the empire was dismantled it would read "Australian commonwealth forces " The hat badge was once on the side turned up and not in front
Air cavalry means that those units had replaced their horses for helicopters. There were Australian units known as 'Light Horse' which were basically mounted infantry using horses to get to new locations quickly, where the 'Troopers' ( soldiers ) dismounted to attack the enemy. 'Light Horse' units are still serving in todays Australian Army but now use armoured personnel carriers. 'Light Horse' units are the only units to wear an emu plume in their slouch hat to distinguish them from other Australian Army units.
A couple of additional facts on the Puggaree is 1 Unit does not have a colour unit patch on the side of the hat is the !st Battalion RAR as it has a green Puggaree rather than light olive. This was due to supply problems in the 2nd WW in resupplying uniforms in the various theaters of war especially New Guinea and Islands campaigns. A local Tailor was asked to provide hat bands for Infantry Slouch Hats, but as he couldn't source correct material. He used material from Jungle green shirts The 1st Battalion retained this habit and it became a tradition for the Unit.
I actually got caught on an Army Course outside of Unit in Victoria, a non Corps course. We retain Unit identification Badges. It was a Base Parade in dress Greens, ( early 80s) the Commandant (Signal Corps) spotted me, with a green Puggaree like a sore thumb, in a sea of olive Puggarees and asked me why I had to be different? I respectfully and proudly informed him of my posted Unit. the RSM appreciated my answer.
The 2nd difference is the Officers Military Academy , which have 8 folds, the a fore mentioned 7 folds for Australia and a red fold for NZ and other Foreign Officer Cadets.
Finally and no disrespect to the US education system but it is very specific to US history and not consistent across the nation. My brother moved to the US with his youngest son around 2000 and young James had a better knowledge of general US history in his High School history classes than his US classmates and of world history overall. A bit of concern as the US has such a world leadership position, world knowledge is vital.
It's frightening how little is known by younger people about Western cultural history. Your education systems have a lot to answer for,especially American education system. 🇦🇺
Yeah, no excuse just because "we weren't involved in that!" We learned about all sorts of histories Australia wasn't involved with.
Chris H
America only cares about how great they ain't.
On the slouch hat (KFF) the band that surrounds the hat is called a pugaree which has seven folds in it representing the seven states and territories of Australia.
Cheers SoGal.
We still where it for ceremonial purposes, with our dress uniform. It’s classed as a ceremonial grade 1 dress hat. Your every day hat, does not have the brim turned up. But is the same. Traditionally it was turned up so the rifle wouldn’t get caught up during drill movements. I was also told when I was in the army, that the older style long rifles with bayonet attached would clear the brim when carried in the shoulder.
The Second Boer(bore) war was also instrumental in the creation of the term 'kangaroo court'. Then it meant a sham trial overseen by the British that resulted in the execution or punishment of the aussie solider. Because of this it is written in the Australian constitution that no soul other than that of an Australian solider can judge, punish, or execute an Australian soldier. Such is our strength on this that despite our desire to prove ourselves on the international stage that we refused to have British 'overseers' standing next to our company commanders during Gallipoli and the great war.
The pin on the pinned side can be the generic crown, scroll and sunlight motif seen but it can be as specific as regiment and company designations. If you have a forebear that served and still have either regimental pin than you can use it to pin your slouch hat at no penalty or punishment. If you had an airmen cavalry grandfather then you as an army infantry can wear that pin in honour of your grandfather and you cannot be punished for it.
We're surprisingly dedicated to remembering and honouring our past, considering we are a joke-y, unruffled bunch. During the WW2 when our regiments, formally of hundreds per had shrunk to just several dozen refused orders from higher up to surrender the regimental colours and conglomerate together as a single full strength regiment. Its the only instance i can think of where there was simultaneous, unplanned, identical acts of insubordination that was never punished(what could they do that was worse than was already endured.
Also, find a good video on the great emu war. Its a good laugh.
Isaac, did you have a typo at 'WW2' when you may have meant 'WW1'? Cheers.
As an Aussie what really pisses me off is WWI videos which refer to British troops capturing some objective BUT the troops are clearly wearing Aussie slouch hats and therefore are Aussie troops.
BTW in WWI a lot of cavalry officers went into the primitive air forces because it was more dashing. In WWII tanks became referred to as cavalry. Neither had horses nonetheless.
General Monash and the man who founded the Australian War Memorial (War Historian CEW Bean) agreed with you on the issue of not crediting specific achievements to individual Dominions within the Empire, and it is still a sore point! I believe the Canadians got a slightly better deal because they insisted in retaining their own Command Structure and General Currie’s troops also contributed hugely to the victory in WW1.
I also agree with your point on the Cavalry contribution to the development of early aviation, however I believe it also may have had something to do with physical strength, dexterity, co-ordination and instincts of people who could ride horses enabling them to operate in a 3D, 360 degree environment.
Ex Aussie gun number here, cavalry comes in many forms including armoured units. Effectively they move faster then regular infantry
During WW2 when general MacArthur left the Philippines he was stationed in Australia. During this time he had like 500,000 Australian military personnel under his command along with two American divisions. One was a combat division the other was engineers. Almost his whole campaign was fought with Australian personnel. And the best part was once he got back to the Philippines he dropped us like a hot potato with hardly a mention of our contribution. Take a look at some of the Papuan campaigns like Kokoda or Milne bay. It was the Australians that broke the famous Japanese South seas detachment and were the first to repulse a Japanese naval landing. Aussie Aussie Aussie 😀
Yes MacArthur wasn't popular in Australia when he made a point of isolating Aussie troops in mopping up operations behind the lines once the Japanese were in retreat. Check out the "Morotai Mutiny" in which Clive "Killer" Caldwell and a number of senior RAAF officers were disciplined when they resigned in protest at being relegated to what they saw as strategically unnecessary ground attack missions bypassed by the Allies island-hopping campaign - considered by many as MacArthur's plan to keep all the glory for himself and his US troops.
I don’t recall soldiers wearing hats like this…… PRICELESS!
1. She was not present at the Battle of Gettysburg. It was a bit before her time so she was not a witness.
2. Seeing that point 1 is a given, she is obviously confusing a Hollywood depiction of the battle with what historically happened. Hollywood loves its cliches so audiences can readily distinguish the Northerners from the Southerners in a B&W movie.
The rest of the Anglosphere (as you put it) were very much part of the Empire at the end of the 19th century & very patriotic about it - many Australians, New Zealanders & Canadians of the time would of thought of themselves as British, first. The US had nothing to do with Africa at this point, it was a place dominated by European empires (and, as you say, America was involved at about this time in taking apart one of them - the Spanish in Cuba & the Phillipines). Australians in particular were very keen on helping Britain in a colonial war in South Africa at this time - although the British were less certain of their usefulness at this point - and something like 16000 served in the Second Boer War.
You have to remember that the USA did not enter either world war until very late in both wars.
For military names, don't confuse look with purpose. Yes, initially cavalry were usually horses (or camels, or ...). But one of the purposes for cavalry was to quickly exploit a weakness in enemy lines. To be able to quickly move around the battle field to take advantage of the tactical situation was a huge advantage. Armored Cavalry does this with Armored cars, etc, Air Cavalry does this with things like helicopters.