Pathfinder Canteen Set Review - 2019
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- Something to carry water in & a metal cup to make a beverage or cook in....surely you don't need to spend big amounts of cash to sort out this bit of your bushcraft gear?
The Pathfinder Canteen Set is not the most expensive, or the cheapest - but is it any good? After a couple of years of using it almost everyday, here are my thoughts on this item.
You can easily bend the tabs slightly on the cup handle catch so it does not slide loose. It will provide enough tension to hold in place.
There are CZcams videos about this.
The first thing you do when you get one of those set ups is to take a circular saw with an aluminum oxide blade and cut a big hole in the center of the stand so the flame can actually come up and touch the bottom of the mug .....and also install 4 number eight bolts with nuts to give yourself another quarter of an inch in height on that stand.... which means the mug sits up a quarter of an inch more which allows the flames to touch the bottom of the cup and then spread around the edges and you’ll get much faster boil times
Instablaster...
No you don't. Turn the stove upside down and put 2 metal pegs or bend a "V" shape wire as a stand. It becomes a windscreen for an Alcohol stove Trangia type, a wood stove and Esbit Solid fuel. It boils my 700ml cup much faster. By keeping the grill untouched, it hold the twigs much safer than starting a fire on bare ground. No risk on burning the forest down
@@nickcasolino8903 Or just get a crusader cooker.
I agree with you on the canteen fire stand, though it does help if you put it in the coals for a solid base.
The one thing I like about military kidney shaped canteens are they can't roll away from you.
I finally bit the bullet and splashed out; $97.oo cad (58.14 PoundSterling) on the Pathfinders 32ounce (4 cups) Water Bottle & a lid with a 25 ounces (3 cups) Stainless steel Cup ...(no bag, no fish mouth opener, no stand)
I hope I don't regret my purchase.
My Vet buddy gave me his miltary canteen set 10yrs ago, and I love it.
I enjoy your informative and practical videos. I bought the set a few years ago for a back up when we travel by car. I was hoping to do more short day hikes, but between asthma and knee problems I haven't followed through, so never used the kit. The canteen itself is great and serves as an additional water supply. I also picked up the canteen shop bag that attached to a backpack.
I love this canteen one of the best things I’ve bought for Bushcraft
Same here
Really enjoyed your review Neil, Thank you my friend & stay safe 🙂👍
Thanks Neil, for a well thought out, and honest appraisal of the pathfinder canteen set. Tis very easy to become overwhelmed by new, and often high tech kit. Your guidelines of value for price have long served the online Bush-craft community well, please continue the honest evaluations .. Cheers 🙂
Thanks for sharing Neil, looks like a nice cookset. I don't have that particular set but I did buy the lid because it fits nicely on a few of the other canteen cups such as the US GI, Dutch and British Crusader cups.
The stand is awsome, you are supposed to put it directly in the fire and build a bed of coals around it, put the cup on top or grill directly on top of the stand. And a trangia fits also perfectly underneath while the stand uses no extra space in the pack.
I use my Trangia burner under the cup stand. Works great. Boils @ 20 oz. of water in about 6-7 minutes.
Keep videos coming, really enjoy them
Got one for my birthday today looking forward to using it
Neil , thanks for sharing , an honest review, atb
My Pathfinder cookset came today. I enjoyed the video.
Great review! I'm looking for a good canteen! Thanks
Looks like a very good buy .. nice review .. thanks 👍😊.
Would love to get one .. BUT .. I currently have so many Water Bottles and such (dating from personal issue in the 70's) that another 😨 .. would have to find a way to smuggle it into Home Base under the Beady-Eyed Radar 😊.
The Stove / Burner Windbreak Thingamajig could be made to work like the standard issue by drilling some holes and using a wire support (I use Stainless Steel Bicycle Spokes for similar projects). Perhaps the Manufacturers could look into this.
Turn the stand upside down, and insert metal rods x2 for a tin for solid fuel or alcohol stove. Works like a charm.
Thanks for sharing check for rust on the inside seam of the bottle stay safe
Very good I have one I like it a lot thanks
Nice review. I love my set, so far find it to do everything I need it to do. Thumb's up video!~John
Great kit. I have the other one. Love it
I really like mine, as you said a great sized cup and bottle. Not so bothered about the pot stand.
i agree with you about the cooker i use the crusader cooker it is the best,, i love this canteen the kit is a bit expensive... i loved the video..
From what I have seen in a few vids, the stand/oven work nice with a pile of coals.
Hi, I own a Pathfinder Canteen kit. I agree with you. The cup cup flipped on me a couple times. Don't need to tell you that I was pissed. I got rid of the original cup and replace it with a butterfly handle cup. I love the wide mouth because my MSR Mini work water filter fits perfectly. I flip the stove upside down. I use a Trangia knockoff inside. With 2 metal pegs across it, it hold the cup. The stove serves as a windscreen. You could put an Esbit solid fuel and also start a mini fire inside the stove while still upside down. With the modifications that I've done, the canteen set fits my need better. Just sharing my experience.
Any recommendations for which canteen cup to get? I’m also looking for a replacement cup with butterfly handles, but it seems most are a bit small for the Pathfinder canteen.
A simple, minor adjustment on the cup and it tightens the handle and it won't fit. Two minute fix.
Hey mate not sure how I’m just discovering your channel! Great vid mate greetings from Aus
I used to have something similar to that stove that is sold as Swedish Army stoves and with the the bottom bit you say is useless is good on those to hold the spirit burner and gets hot quick. Weighs a bit more I think but worked for me at the time.
Thanks for the benefit of your experience! One question: Why not cut out the centre of the pot stand so all the heat goes to the pot? Do you think that would make it useful? With love, Ken
another great vid
I have just invested in the TBS billycan set, which is basically a copy of the round section Pathfinder set. It includes the bottom cooker part, the cup and the bottle. It cost £48 and I got a really well made molle carry bag off eBay for £5.88. The TBS has measurements stamped in, so you can always see them, the bottle’s lid is attached but easy to take off. The whole thing is carefully designed, the bail for the cup allows the lid to be taken on and off, the lid doesn’t need slots in it, like others do. I haven’t used it yet, but bought it after watching quite a few reviews. I also have the British Army BCB crusader set, which I really like, this is slightly lighter, I have the 2nd version of the BCB, but have the original steel cup instead of the lighter aluminium one, that will account for the extra weight- it’s built like a tank!🤣😁. I got the TBS set, partly because I just like different mess tins etc, as I love cooking, and because my Firebox stove has a round “cut out” section specially for Pathfinder cups and bottles, which makes it extremely efficient. If I’m going for a walk and am just making a brew or warming soup, I would take my extremely efficient Swiss Army Volcano stove or my British Army BCB Crusader, but for an overnighter, then it would be the Swiss Army Volcano for brews and a mess tin or either TBS set or Crusader or just my Trangia 27 with kettle. Choices, choices!😩😁😂🤣
@@oldredcoonhound2182 Absolutely agree, old chap!😟
Think I'll be trying to modify that stove to see if I can get it to work a little better.
I liked your review. Do you ever use the trangia stove with this canteen kit.
Thanks
New subscriber. Nice eval of this kit.
Good stuff keep on !
Will the handle on the canteen hold a full canteen of food while eating?
Does anyone know whether the Keith titanium canteen fits inside the pathfinder stainless steel canteen cup?
How much does your favourite USGI canteen cup weigh on its own without a lid or the attached stove?
It is a straight on copy of the US military canteen set from the 40's only with a widemouth. I have the original one with the cutlery set and mess tins. It is part of my summer kit in winter i carry a bigger pot and still have the canteen set.
Sir, would this Pathfinder canteen set fit in a regular GI pistol belt canteen cover for transporting it by your hip with Alice clips?
Thank you.
Any canteen pouch that fits a 1qt canteen will probably work with a pathfinder, though the fit will no doubt be tighter than the slightly smaller plastic canteens that were designed to go in those pouches.
Solid kit, though I may have a different version because when I flip the stove over for cooking with tabs and use the fish mouth spreader for a trivet I don't get the balance issue
£100! What the.... oh it's a Keith, yes they are truly awesome. Just don't tell the Mrs
I have both, shhhh, both are great kits but titanium wins as I get older. 288g for mug, bottle and lid. Add a bushbox ultralight 74g and your on to a winner.
Crouching Tadpole .. Respectfully, it appears that your Mrs doesn't have the Beady-Eyed Eagle AEGIS Tracking System that mine has 😎. I hope for your sake they never meet 😊.
@@thomasmusso1147 I just got rumbled, cos your reply flashed up on my lock screen! 😱
With the holes in the lid of the cup I wonder f it can be used to make char material?
Yes it is possible. But you have to clean your cup very very good, otherwise your drinks/food tastes very bad. Scrubpads with soap. This char option is also called for the bottle. My advise (for what it is worth) do not do this !! Food/Drink holders needs to be only for food/drinks. I know people who tried this and ending up throwing away the bottle.
link to the canteen?
can the canteen lid handle heat so you could use canteen as hot water bottle
Most probably, I will have to try it out
Good review as ever Neil. I know that's not your intention but you haven't convinced me to buy one of these though. I know it's a 5Cs thing, but I'm not convinced on the value of boiling water in a heavy metal canteen (is that a band :-)?) Strikes me that it's more convenient to do so in your cooking pot or metal cup. Do you reckon it gives you sufficient advantage to justify the weight?
Tbh, Dave, it is tough justifying the extra weight and if I was on a long haul, I would probably take a lighter bottle. But this lives in my daysack with a few other well chosen items, so the weight is not a massive issue. As a "just in case" item having a bottle you can boil water in , to me, makes sense, water can be gathered in my millbank bag, filtered straight into the bottle and then boiled, so less links in the contamination chain.
@@greencraft4783 Fair enough!
They are a good bit of kit. I have the bottle kit myself, same basic thing 32oz ss bottle, nesting cup and stove and its great. I also agree that the stove part is not too hot, for the bottle as well. I prefer to carry a proper twig stove (firebox nano) instead of that. But the bottle/nesting cup are bombproof and i love em.
Nalgene bottle and 0.6 to 1 litre titanium pot. Cheaper, MUCH lighter, can be used with a greater range of stoves, better bottle, better mug. The only thing it won’t do is nest as well and that’s only important if you have to carry it in webbing pouches.
Thanks for your opinion my friend.
I really wish Pathfinder would sell that canteen cup separate that is the best cup around instead of those wire handles that grab handle is the best it's stabilizing it and it doesn't add very much weight to about 1G
hows the canteen for making charcloth?
No idea, I use it for water and cook in the cup
can;t see the value in that vs army surplus
The base is for coals mate.
I find the set and so called options a bit overrated to be honest. But whatever suit your needs or thoughts. I agree on the stand totally worthless, 50% of the heat is gone in the stand. The cup is ok. The cover is excellent though. Boiling in the bottle is no extra option.
The stand goes on the red hot coels
Cheapest one in the states on eBay 74.39$ upwards to 173$ crazy good deal you got there..
$60 new on eBay
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At the risk of me being "THAT" guy... What makes it the best water bottle you've ever used? It's a water bottle, it's job is to hold water. I've used the same plastic squash bottle for the gym for over a year now.
This is a revamp of the US bottle system, the most noticeable difference being the wider mouth.
I've had my 58pat bottle since before getting out over 20yrs ago and use it for bushcraft camping and days out, it just works.
DC has cashed in on bushcraft and shiny kit syndrome... very successfully too.
No worries. It reminds me of the old 44 patt water bottle. I have had my 58patt bottles since the 80's and like them a lot. This one is even easier to fill, to keep clean and it has the added bonus of being able to boil water in it too if I have too. They have all cashed in on bushcraft- Ray, Lars, Dave, etc...the only exception is Mors. Dave seems to be doing well at the moment, he seems to have a very strong work ethic, so good luck to him.
Wise old Grandma’s saying on what you should spend the most money that you can afford on. “Your Boots and your bed”.
Because if you not in one you are in the other.
Ditch the heavy canteen and replace it with a military canteen so much lighter.
Nice review. In my limited experience its always better to pay a bit more for the high quality item that lasts years rather than the cheaper item that doesn't. Better for your wallet in the long run and better for the environment etc.
There are loads of such examples. I remember buying my very first leatherman wayy back when they launched the first one, I found it hard to spend that money at the time - especially as I was a student at the time. But I did, and 20 years later - or more - I still have it and it is close to perfect bar my use.
Cheaper €20.00 knock off multi tools are simply not as good.
Buy high quality and buy once imo. Quality will last a lifetime.
This video is four years old so perhpas my comment is a bit weird here but you're supposed to take pliers and adjust the little hooks that hold the locking bit so it will be tighter and won't come undone when moving it around.
I really don't understand Dave's persistence with the stoves. Literally no one likes them. I have the bushopot and the stove is just useless.
The new canteen cup has d-rings on top of the handle so you can run a stick through it and create a longer arm.
I had the same one and sold the whole Set. It didnt fit my needs as my US army issued canteen + Cup does.
It also has some Flaws and Major failures, but thats nothing for the comment section.
Glad you are happy with it my friend.
All the best to you and yours, Mike
So cut the bottom out of the stove then
I thought of that, but the sides of both mug & stand are straight, not tapered, unlike the issue version.
I bought this kit about 6 months after it came out. After my first outing I left water in it, filling it up for my second outing it was leaking around the seam! Closer inspection showed rust holes! In a stainless canteen! I tried for months to get someone from his store respond with no results. I'll never buy from Dave again.
Thanks Robin. I have had no issues with mine, but I will keep an eye on it.
NEWSFLASH!: Stainless steel (wait for it)......................RUSTS! lol, did you not already know this?? And, just because you're ignorant enough to not simply make sure the inside of the canteen is completely dry, before you screw the cap back on..........makes YOU, the one at fault for it rusting. And leaking. NOT "Dave". No wonder the guy never responded to you (Atomic eyeroll!). By the way, I own this same cookset. Have a nice day. ☺
The crusader stoves (either of them) are much better.
Don't know what 100 quids is in canadian dollars. But I wanted to get the kit.with shipping and exchange for our shitty canadian dollar.it came out to $300 canadian.way to much. Good vid tho..cheers
For me the one big failing of the Pathfinder canteen is that they didn't make the mouth Nalgene compatible. They made it wide mouth, why not Nalgene compatible? That way you can use all the Nalgene compatible accessories.
Are you ex military?
Negative
I'm in my sixties and I've never had the need to boil the contents of my water bottle, in fact I've only been using a filter for under a year so there is no advantage, for me, to carry a stainless steel canteen. I boil water in my Crusader cup or pot to make coffee and cook my meals and I think that one boiling is sufficient. Modern equipment "needs" are as much to do with fashion as necessity ( a piece of wire isn't as 'sexy' as a fish mouth spreader). Maybe we should work on the principle of carrying 11 C's, the most important one being a Credit card. All the best.
You are correct Gordon, one boiling is enough , so I'm ok for tea & cooking, but for drinking on the trail I normally treat it in some way first.
The only thing of real value is the lid the rest is ok but not worth the price tag. Probably appeals to the Walter Mitty wanna be non military types who buy anything if the marketing team prefix it with the initials SAS.