What is the Truth about Tartaria
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Please make battle videos about Mongol invasions of Korea and java.
@@atesyabgu0844 Imperial Russia: "... NO! We'll take what land we want." XD
If you read Chinese historical records, you will know what is Tatar, especially before the Emperor Qin Shi Huang.
How comes everything devolves into "European men bad" argument in YT history channels.
Lol, спасибо (:
When you mentioned how people today often talk about "Africa" to refer to the continent as a whole, it made me think of how in 300 years there will be a conspiracy theory about how Africa was one big country based on how people talk about it on social media
In 300 years? Right now you have (American) Black Nationalists doing exactly that and saying that Whites destroyed the culture and split the continent...incidentally, none of these gentlemen have been to Africa or know Africans or seem able to grasp the fact that a lot of North Africa is not and has never been populated by high melanin people but semitic peoples.
@@TheBayzent some of them even claim civilizations outside Africa like Olmecs, which in reality were Amerindians
@@TheBayzent I mean, the scramble for Africa (and the century following) did f**k a lot of stuff up in Africa.
@@TheBayzent Classic case of how a grain of truth (the Berlin Conference) gets blown completely out of proportion by agenda-pushers. There's seemingly always some kind of fact buried in any good conspiracy theory.
Both the insane "Kangz" and the less insane semi-respectable variants of Afro-centrism already essentially rely on this argument. No point in talking about Kangz, but the semi-respectable variant of the Black Egypt theory goes: Proto-Egyptians migrated North to the Nile from the drying of the Sahara, hence ancient Egyptians were originally a purely African people, hence Ancient Egyptians were black. The first two points are true, but the third only follows in the minds of Black Egypt theorists because their minds insist on "Africa" or "African" having meaning beyond geographical.
I have literally never heard of this. It's amazing how many things we don't know, even in our hyper specific areas of interest
The idea of “Tartaria” has been trending among white supremacist conspiracy theorists, who are DESPERATE to conjure up a common ancestral civilization, in order to justify land claims and solve internal strife.
To understand why, look into real world examples happening right now of people wanting to fill a cultural void in order to justify continued control-such as the Mormons, who are currently attempting to usurp as the founders of the Maya civilization in order to steal land from the local natives (Look up Utah-born Mormon/Mayan archaeologist Richard Hansen’s interview with Vice for more).
While Europeans once collectively revered the Roman Empire as their common ancestral civilization-a schism happened when the radicalized descendants of northern Barbarians and Vikings resented being seen as the catalyst to the empire’s downfall. The idea of Tartaria fixes that by uniting both factions under a common ancestral civilization.
@@CloroxBleachCompany I don't understand why people can't focus on building a better future for all of us. Sheesh 🙄
Thanks for the explanation
Same, I had no idea. Weird
@@CloroxBleachCompany but tartar people aint even white… they r asians
@@CloroxBleachCompany lol yeah spit that line npc spit that sheit
You start off by looking for a nice tartar sauce recipe and next thing you know you're done rabbit hole
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My
Mom used to say something as a kid…” who do you think ya are, the prince of Tartar?” It was a saying from when her dad was a kid
tartar in slang means "a person of irritable or violent temper"
also did you even fucking watch the video? it could mean "prince of asia" or something, which i imagine would mean that you're entitled, which matches up with the slang definition
@@taurus6392yea cause being the prince of someone with a bad temper makes sense
@@TopNotchTrades1 Did you even read my second comment? Tartar ALSO means a region of asia, so saying "the prince of tartar" would be different to calling you a tartar, Prince of Tartar meaning "Prince of Asia" which i imagine would mean that person is entitled, which then lines up with the slang definition "a person of irritable or violent temper"
@@TopNotchTrades1 What probably happened was "Prince of Tartar" became an insult for an entitled person, then "Tartar" became the shortened version, and was used as a slang term
2021: Bro all Asians are not Chinese
1321: Bro all Asians are not Tartars
It works different in America.
Asians you like: Japanese.
Asians you don't like: Chinese.
China was not part of Tartaria, the reason why the wall was built to separate and fend off attacks from Tartaria
this video, the whole channel is a shill channel. Greater Tartaria was real, and America was part of it. Its in the ol old maps, they dont lie.
@@thecandlemaker1329 1943 disagrees.
I could see how somebody would be confused that hasn't really looked into the subject at all and only listened to this information. What you fail to mention is that Genghis Khan was not among all like the mongols that we know today which looked Chinese he had red hair and green eyes and his wife was a blonde there are paintings of them that can prove this. I suppose you deserve whatever belief system you have because that's what you most studied or at least are open to.
As a matter of joke, I would add that if UK had been at war 200 years ago with the mighty Empire of Tartary, Napoleonic France would have actually allied with Tartary.
Louis the XVI would have done tha same!
... as well as every self-respecting french leader !
lol Napoleon the freemason?
@@elbentos7803 you wrote that in english
@@evan_brightfield Napoleon was not a freemason. He tried to co-opt the masons and filled their top post with his relatives though.
I think Africa is a victim of this as well. Rarely does anyone say an actual African country, it’s always Africa. With the exception of Egypt.
with the exceptions of Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa
@@Alex-eo9ofEgypt Nigeria South Africa Madagascar
With the exceptions of Egypt, Nigeria, Angola, South Africa, Madagascar, Kenya, Somalia and Ethiopia
Tunisia, Morocco, Eritrea
Maybe in your circle…🙄
A tiktok commenter brought me here, and im glad that you put this up. Told me to research tartaria and the muflood, like i was supposed to know what that meant. These people just dont stop
I'm pretty sure if Britian eliminated a massive Empire taking up most of Asia they wouldn't have kept quiet on it.
The blood French would have made such the world knew, heck they’d have fought with the tartars
In what reality do the French and British work together without America?
@@spongebobsucks12 I meant French in unison with tartars against Britain
@@berry1666 They have fought with tatars, namely in Napoleonic Wars. As a part of Russian occupational forces, some tatars were stationed in Paris and imparted their cuisine to the French. That's how you got all those food items attributed to "tartars".
Have you never heard of the Freemasons
Everyone knows that Big Toothpaste erased Greater Tataria.
It had to be 'Arm & Hammer' with how much glistening, sprinkled, grainy particulates of the cool ice and snow are found East of Urals, no?
Don't say that on social media! You will have started another conspiracy theory! lol
tell me you drink fluoridated water without telling me you drink fluoridated water.
Until the great empire known as GINGAVITAS came.
hahha awesome
They are changing history right now.
Sooo the basic argument here is that if the conspiracy is right and “they” erased the history of tartary, why would it still be on the maps? Not gonna lie it’s a bit shallow I was expecting way more debunking of the theory
'Mud Flood' is baseless idiocy.
He also said this: "which is more likely, that a faceless organization completely erased a vast empire both archaeologically and in sources across the breadth of Asia in hundreds of languages, and replaced its existence with made-up dynasties and empires, or ..." Seems like decent logic to me. The "they forgot to erase all the maps" part is just an addendum.
Hungarian historiography refers to the Mongolian invasion of the country in 1241-42 as "Tatárjárás" which roughly means the "Ravaging of Tartars"
@@trikebeatstrexnodiff the name "Mongol" until the 17th-18th centuries meant belonging to a political community, and was not the ethnic name. While “the name "Tatars" was “the name of the native nation of Genghis Khan …” , “… Genghis Khan and his people did not speak the language, which we now call the "Mongolian…" (Russian academic-orientalist V.P.Vasiliev, 19th century).
@@trikebeatstrexnodiff Tatars were more like Turkic then mongolic. History is weird and full of contractions
@@ryanparker4996 well the oldest illustrated bible known is in ethipoia, and jesus and mary and joseph apear as black....what do we make out of the debunkings....
@@Brandonhayhew not really turks are totally different
Ohhh so that's how we got Tartar sauce
The myth is hugely popular in Russia among some conspiracy theorists something like Great Tartaria was originally Slavic and was in war with what is now China some 7900 years ago. The Great Wall was constructed by the “Slavs”. Those “Slavs” had superior technologies like space travel but were destroyed by Napoleon who was an ally of the Russian Czar so basically Moscow and St.Petersburg were 2 separate states back then. Russian history were then rewritten so only those conspiracy theorists know “the real truth” .
The rabbit hole is immense
I heard about this theory about 10 years ago, and it smelled "rotten to the core". It has protruding "us vs them" component and how "great" we used to be. Unfortunately, several years later Russia found a new "enemies" by violating borders of Georgia and Ukraine..
To be honest, as a Russian, it is the first time I hear this myth, and I have spent a lot time in internet. Even the Hyperborea myth seems to be more “popular”
@@comradekapibarchik7997 Hyperborea isn't really a myth though. It's a regional term used by the likes of Pindar and Herodotus.
Lol same in Poland. Here it's called "Great Lechia" or something like that and it was supposed to be a proto-polish state that controlled ALL mainland Europe that wasn't part of the Roman Empire. XD
I'd never heard of this myth until now. Oh god, this this is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard of besides the flat earth theory.
Best explanation I've seen for this. This is what I understood as an explanation for the tatar in history.... but my confidence was LOW bc I've never heard this distinction so clearly made.
I'm looking forward to an accurate update of the ukr situation....
Oh Greater Tartaria doesn't exist? Next you will be telling me that Lemuria, home to our great Pro simian Humanoid overlords don't exist?
Was that the kingdom of testicles?
Or was that the Geigh Kingdom?
@Poli Dissent ok you are a special nutcase
@@nothing2see315 from the land of deez nuts
The ancient lumerians "supposedly" live in a city underneath Mt. Shasta in Northern California. Wild ass shit lol
This myth is new to me, but by the gods, between this, all the rest, and the “rome didn’t exist” thing… I’m so fucking exhausted
You think this is nuts? Take a quick look at people's evidence for the mud flood. Makes anti-vaxxers sound sane
I never heard of any of these. Weird. Uneducated people are so easily fooled
@@tryingmybest9819 You mean the people that choose to stay away from vaccines all together? Or the people that refuse to take.the covid vaccine?
@@Darthwgamer unless it's for medical reasons, both.
@@tryingmybest9819 One just chooses to not take this vaccine, the other one well idk what's wrong with them
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I recall watching a CZcams video dealing with Tartaria. Apart from promoting the infamous Mud Flood, it discussed the worldwide network of buildings with pointy tops, spires, etc - which formed a global electrical energy distribution system. For some reason, the Berlin public zoo was a key feature of this network. Looking back, I often wonder if that video was real, or whether I dreamt the whole thing.
Based schizo.
A lot of Tartaria-themed videos reference the "antiquitech" that was incorporated into the architecture of the "Old World" for the purpose of harnessing free electrical energy from the atmosphere. The controllers of the present age enrich themselves by monopolizing the creation of energy via more primitive methods and its sale to the dependent general public.
Sounds about right though
@@Daniel-415-PonceNikola teslas wardenclyffe project🤷🏻♂️
@@corbincody9506
Yes, Tesla knew.
The Mud Flood @3:55 is from those who never did a days work, so they're ignorant that these "Sunken Bldg's" once sat inside a perimeter curtain wall. Retaining walls were started with trenches forming a square. Inside the say 100ft Sq. the ground was excavated down several stories. Footings for the foundations were then laid, let's say 80ft Sq. so when this building rose it had a ten foot space all around it to let light and ventilation reach the lower levels. Once electricity became commonplace the lower levels openings were walled up and the air shaft back filled. They do basically the same thing today with modern skyscraper construction. But It's sooo much better to try and look "Smart" on a TicToc than take 10 minutes of research and learn something....
Nice try.
@@HaHaroni
I guess you never lived in a real city? Where do you think the elevators that pop up through the sidewalk come from? Next thing your lot will be saying is the small doors they used for Ice delivery is proof of Dwarves....
@@charles1964 Your theories don't hold the least amount of water. Some places have no mud flood. Some places have two or three stories with external doors and windows in the bottom floor.
These doors and windows are facing mud, not cleared out spaces.
You're really addressing something you have no concept of.
@@HaHaroni
Actually I do have a little more than a concept, having actually worked in constructing hi-rises. It's people like you that are defending and propagating a fairy tail theory. I explained more than once why the lower floors had doors and windows, it's not an opinion, it's a recorded fact. FFS have you ever been to Manhattan? Like I said, don't take my word for it, take ten minutes and research 19th century construction projects during The Industrial Revolution. Check out the Caissons used to construct the Towers for the Brooklyn Bridge in the 1880's, all that work was dug mostly by hand by Irish Immigrants getting paid Pennies a day.....
Bingo.
Funnily enough. In my history classes when we were learning about Mongols , their names were interchangeable and often changed with tatars. And i remember distinctly whenever i was talking about mongols with my grandmother she only called them tatars :)
In Czech, the word "tatar" is a synonym for a stupid or confused person 😀
Yeah the Germans were called the Huns which are the same blood group as the tartar and Mongols
Funny thing this all originated from the same country whose economy and culture are disappearing due more to beliefs then facts
Love seeing my old British school mates who due to my race loved calling me the N word. Well my fotze friends your country abandoned the EU with Germany at its head and now paying the price
So sucked in arshlochsand reap what you have sown
Sorry guys just a small uprising of German nationalism!
I know naughty naughty
@@svenerikmoeller8809 What? I don't really understand this reply , also germans were goths not huns?
@@Xenofer1 The British through WW1 called the Germans the Huns which are the same racial group of the TarTars and Mongols
Goths Saxons Vandals Lombard’s and Angles are of Germanic stock.
The true irony is that the Angles
and the Saxons ( which are my ancestors) invaded post Roman Britain and formed the language and people known today as the British even though their original stock bloodline comes from the very people they called the Huns
It’s like referring the Japanese are the same as Pygmy Congolese it make no sense
Mind you the Huns did rampage across Europe and my group did it not so long ago either so there’s that too
I appreciate the mention of Siber becoming "Siberia" and implying vast swaths of subarctic north Eurasia.
I can’t trust a page to tell me not to believe in something when they have a 3 minute ad before telling me why I shouldn’t believe 😂
I decided to watch this, despite its 666k views and my better judgement. And then opened up a fortune cookie that I had on the table, to find no fortune. I can't decide how I feel about all this. Its just happening so fast....
In my Estonian language we call buckwheat "tatar" and in finnish "tattari". which originates from central-asia around 10th-13th century.
Ironic, how its named after a non-sedentary society.
Ooh like cream of Tatar in english!
It's funny because my Mother has Tartarian roots and my name means Elder tree in estonian 😂
@@temptemp4174 lmao yess basically. blonde mongols
Is it the tartármártás in Hungarian?
Thou shalt not stop me from reaching Hyperborea as I travel through Agartha from Ultima Thule.
I was born in the capital of Tatarstan, it's called Kazan and today it's an autonomic state of Russia. Moreover, it is regarded as the third capital of Russia, after Moscow and Saint Petersburg. It is also one of the fastest growing cities in Eurasia, most people haven't heard about. But what's probably more important, is that this is one of only few places in the world, where Muslims and Christians live together in peace (mostly). Please look it up, if you want to learn about Tatarian history, first. Of course there are also Crimean and Turkish Tatars, however they do not have a place to call "their own". The Tatar language has many similarities with the Turkish language, but is written in a special type of Kyrillic letters in Tatarstan.
Interesting Real History.
So, does Tartarstan/Kazan have "Tartarian" architecture?
Тартария никаким боком не относится к татарскому народу
@@user-hb3oj5it2cно в видео говорилось и тюркские народы и, в частности, татар, так что он в тему
@@barkingbandicootwhat did you mean?
The fact that some people even say that 'Russia didn't exist in 1850, Tartary did' is sort of insulting to me, mostly because i'm Polish, and if you know History, you know that Poland has had many revolts against the RE, specifically the November and January Uprisings of 1830-1831 and 1863-1864, and to say such events didn't happen, and that there was no Russian state that Poles, Lithuanians, etc, rebelled against, is really insulting, and one of the few things i'd be offended by. Some people really think they're right just because, smh
Ya, this is a very North American conspiracy theory. You would get very weird looks if you uttered that in Eastern and Central Europe..
@@KingsandGenerals I swear, what is it with Americans always having to inject themselves into everything, yeah, i can get some things, but like, my brother/sister in christ, i am living proof that a 'great tartary state wiped out by a mud flood' is a lie. Hell, the thing about 'omg guys look, these houses are sunken into the ground, tartary real' can be disproven by the fact that, my city has a bunch of buildings with things that look like sunken windows, the thing is, those aren't windows. A lot of buildings in Russia, and occupied Poland too, they didn't have any electricity, so natural sunlight was the only way to light up a basement, lower level room, etc.
@ukaszwalczak1154
You're right man. I'm American, this theory was brought to me, I'm irritated because the defense is "History is written by the victors"
Why on Earth, if The Tartarayata Empire was real, wouldn't we boast about its fall?
You should share your insight for those of Us thats not so Shallow
@@carolannmcelroy5256 And, what are you even trying to say??
lol years ago my Mexican grandma told me something about "Great Tartaria", I read and watch a lot about history and had never heard about a "great tartar" empire, so that conversation didn't go very far. It's just until now that I know what she was talking about.
@@Lugal_kur-kur she believes in almost all of the conspiracy theories, the more reasonable ones and the completely bonkers ones as well. She got it all from Facebook, since they don't really moderate content in other languages besides English it's even more of a cesspool outside the Anglo world.
She knew because Mexicans are descendants of Mongols...
@@PASTRAMIKicknot the answer ancient avatar man was looking for probably lol
Can Kings and Generals do a documentary on Prester John the legendary Christian monarch of the East?
Much Thanks.
I love that story lol
It's a wild myth, but at least it is a historical myth, not some trendy internet madness.
Owyeah, I am fascinated by that so callled historical figure that was supposed tocome to the aid of christians against muslims.
the legend of Prester John was actually featured on this channel in the series on Ottoman- Portuguese wars.
Very briefly. Portugal was trying to find the mythic kingdom in order to attack the ottomans in 2 fronts
Well done on this confusing subject as I have listened to many and you include many things no one else has thanks for your work as history is very good to know
You are wrong about Tartaria, it did exist, where do you think Tartar sauce comes from? Eh?
Tartar sauce? I'd guess it's from the Maryland shore 😂😂😂😂
I have always thought of the term Tartary as being a name used to designate the lands that were ruled by the various khanates that arose after the Mongol Empire splintered. For me, it is just a name that was given to a place and really no big deal.
There are groups of tartar people still alive today that live in Siberia and on the steppe as he was saying in the video because there a tribe and even and ethnic group
@@nataliekennedy4646 some tatars live in the Ukraine crime area today too the ottoman was allied with the crimetatars
@@nataliekennedy4646 as it was mentioned, originally the ethnic name of the peoples governed by the Mongol polity was that of Tartar, but over time the eastern portion of that polity began to identify ethnically as Mongol, while those in the western portions continued as Tartars. Eventually in the east, Mongols and Tartars somehow became separate. So it's a little more complicated than you described.
@@nataliekennedy4646
I would assume that these people are either descended from those original tribes or adopted the name of those tribes through their association with the Mongol Empire. 'Tis likely that the Tatars in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Poland are an amalgam of these groups with Turkic peoples and Mongols.
@@Kursun28
One interesting thing about the Crimean Tatars is that through their conquest of Crimea with its forced conversions to Islam and taking of non-Tatar women as concubines, the Tatars there absorbed Cumans, Pontic Greeks, Slavs, Italians and Visigoths who already lived there. So, even though they came about from invaders that came into Crimea, the genetic roots of the Crimean Tatars stretch far back into the history of that peninsula.
A 19 century portuguese writer refers to the Wall of China as the Tartar Wall.
Yeh. Besides the use of the word of Tartary as a general region like "Asia" being used to describe anything east of Greece, it also sometimes lumped together many different steppe peoples. Some people mistakenly thought the Qing Dynasty was a part of a greater Tartary culture too because the Qing was ruled by Manchu people from the steppe.
Tatars are what Europeans at some point we're exposed to (Crimean/Hungary/Bulgaria)...
@@Intranetusa manchu/jurchens were not a "steppe" people nor nomadic. They were a seditary people who farmed and hunted in the forested region north east of the Mongols and Turks. The Europeans lumped them in with Tatars because the manchu were also a "horse Archer" society and linguitsically related to the steppe peoples.
@@teovu5557 Manchus are at least a partially steppe people because the Eurasian steppes extends significantly into Manchuria. They just aren't a nomadic people (and I never claimed they were). They are a non-nomadic, partially steppe people that widely used horse archers thanks to the fact that many of them lived on the steppes and had access to good steppe-pastureland to maintain large numbers of horses.
@@Intranetusa Manchu home land is east of the steppe they lived in eastern manchuria and russian far east. They are like other tungusic people who are forest dwellers who hunt, fish and farm
Example- I bet you cant link a single source in academia that says they are a "steppe" people or live in the steppe. Check mate
Sounds complicated, but never mind all that, I just wanted to say that News from Tartary, by Peter Fleming, is a fantastic account of a trip he made thru the region in 1935. You’ll have to keep your history hat on, 90 years ago is another universe now, but it’s cracking good read. I enjoyed every minute, I don’t think I’ve enjoyed a book so much since I was a little kid.
Thank you for the recommendation! I’m interested in reading this book when it arrives. Love me a good adventure. 🙏
This civilization could’ve been a major inspiration for a fictional setting that consists of island chains that were once the Russian colony that it has elements of Tartaria. Maybe this island chain would become new declared russophone nations. And that one nation would be a constitutional monarchy and one other nation would be a Soviet satellite state, and the Cold War would be literally warmongering.
The name Tatar first appeared among nomadic tribes living in northeastern Mongolia and the area around Lake Baikal from the 5th century CE. Unlike the Mongols, these peoples spoke a Turkic language, and they may have been related to the Cuman or Kipchak peoples. After various groups of these Turkic nomads became part of the armies of the Mongol conqueror Genghis Khan in the early 13th century, a fusion of Mongol and Turkic elements took place, and the Mongol invaders of Russia and Hungary became known to Europeans as Tatars (or Tartars).
Yep.
Even turkic groups and mongols are relative peoples
Wtf
Original Tatars are definitely Mongols. They were arch-enemies of Borjigin clan of Genghis Khan, and was later defeated and absorbed into the larger Mongol people. Modern Turkic Tatars and Mongol Tatars are different people who just coincidentally have the same name, similar to Iberians and Albanians in Caucasia and Iberia and Albania in Europe
You are right!
Great Tartaria we’re found by our Slavic ancestors like Perun that descended in their spaceships and gave us three tripes tracksuits and the superior ability to squat and not giving a f. about anything!
You can actually determine the exact amount of Tartarian Space Comrade DNA in an individual modern Slavic person, by measuring how low they can squat in a tracksuit whilst still keeping their feet flat on the ground. It's a real science.
Based Slav
No, the truth is that the Slavic created this empire by the goddess tara
I remember back around 1970ish when I was in the third or fourth grade. We used a then very old History text for our World History class. East and Central Asia had the lable, "Tartars." There was a Mongol horseman depicted next to the name.
I wonder if one could get their hands on that textbook? Maybe a copy is floating around out there. I'd be VERY INTERESTED in seeing that...
I have a set of encyclopedias from the late 1950's. I should look in them to see if something like that refers to Tartaria...🤔
That is the entire point of the video...
I too had a book like that. Thank you for reminding me.
When Tartarian truthers insist that humans couldn’t have built any of the old “Tartarian” buildings because all they had to build with were horses and carts and hammers and chisels, wtf do you say to them?
That nephilim built them and that current powers did world a favour by getting rid of bastard sons of fallen angels. Sounds more believeable I say
'What were Tartarians, if not humans?'
So, Great Tartaria, the Khazar Hypothesis, Finland not Existing, the Lost Cause, Phantom Time, the Myth of the Aryan Supermen (eastern and western variants), Ancient Aliens, the Oxfordian Theory, and both the old and new arguments about the "Race" of Ancient Egyptians... you can't say people aren't creative when they put their mind to it.
You forgot "Australia doesn't exist" and the old time favourite classic "Flat Earth"..
@@jlvfr ... And the russian counterpart of 'flat Earth' : Recentism !
I hear the new one is 'Ancient Rome was made up by the Spanish Inquisition'
@@jlvfr you do realize the flat earth community has literally gone 'full circle' and now the crazier conspiracy theoriests of their own group actually believe the earth is round just with a few variations.
@@MrHazz111
It seems to be akin to 'Recentism' (middle ages were made up by jesuits) - and russians created the World.
I just went from watching a video debunking a Tik Toker’s belief that the Roman Empire didn’t exist and I’m glad to continue watching people explain conspiracy theories are false
Tik tok is owned by China, and over here its "algorithm" is pushing inane crap on our kids, meanwhile in chins its pushing math, science and fitness onto theirs.
I stay away, from tik tok lol
@@alexanderrahl7034 tiktok is a braindrain, stay away from it.
Ah, good old Metatron begin one of few true bastion of history on youtube.
I see you are a man of science and facts as well.
Are you talking about the Metatron?
As an real Tatar this thesis is the biggest Hoax 😂
There is a big difference between Tatar and Tartaria , not a same thing .
Mh... like the Greeks called all Non-greeks "babblers" e.g. babarians. I think people just don't give too much thought to linguistics and just make assumptions and present superficial "evidence" without going deeper into it. For example I came across the theory that the vulcano "Anak Krakatau" in Indonesia is somehow connected to the word Anunaki (A race out of Sumerian mythology). That was so baffling because I knew that "Anak" simply means "child" in Bahasa Indonesia: "The child of Krakatau". But the author was adamant about his "finding" and would not let go of this supposed connection.
Usually I am not quick to rule out that there is a certain amount of occult knowledge out there which we haven't found or is being actively kept secret. But if there is so little to support a theory and more to contradict it, then it is hard to be convinced.
Anyway, thank you for this video! I had heard of "Greater Tartary" but did not know it was considered a "conspiracy theory" in certain circles. I thought it was more like something akin to King Arthur's Empire or the kingdom of Prester John: A mythical land with some connections to reality.
It's what happens when you are looking for facts to fit your theory instead of a theory to fit the facts.
It's not hard to envision the Bolsheviks wanting to twist and rewrite history...
One of the ' so called Tartarian buildings' in the 1893 Chicago World Fair, was built solidly, would have taken more than 2 years to build, and still stands today.
exactly
😂 ok smarty no one could trick you
Yeah, I didn't hear any condescending retorts about that bit, which is actuallywhat I'minterested in. Gotta put it in a nice, neat package. This is the problem with skeptics. They're so condescending that they don't see what they don't see.
@@timpalmer0432 💯
Bro really I thought you were claimining the ancient native american buildings than it’s dumb but believable. But no way you think the European style american buildings were already there before Europeans arrived 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they copied it from the ones that were already in Europe. And we still do the world fairs in 2015 it was in Milan in Italy I visited it and now Most of the buildings that were temporary built for the expo 2015 Are abandoned so I wouldn’t be surprised if 100 years from now they are rotten or Tore down to Build something Else. Same for all the old world fairs. You know the Eiffelf Tower was built for a world fair in Paris and than Left there? But originally it was meant to be temporary. Also I am honored that you Like italian style architecture so much that you have to make up a mythological world Spanning Empire ti explain it when simply the europeans colonizers copied the European Styles and built all of America in that style. It’s Not Even a secret that the White House is built with Neoclassical style to remind of ancient Roman Republic doesn’t mean the Romans secretly discovered America built the white house and were canceled from history 🤣🤣🤣
CZcams talked about having people ready to combat certain information, so tartarian empire and flat earth... even if it's a conspiracy seeing that you have a video to dispute makes it seems very real.
Apparently there are several etymologies of "Tartar/tartar" in English:
Lower-case "tartar": From Old French tartre, from Medieval Latin tartarum, from Byzantine Greek τάρταρον (tártaron), said to be from Arabic دُرْدِيّ (durdiyy), though it is already found in Pelagonius’s Ars veterinaria 46 in the adjective tartarālis, if the reading is correct.
"1 - A red compound deposited during wine making; mostly potassium hydrogen tartrate - a source of cream of tartar."
"2 - A hard yellow deposit on the teeth."
Upper-case "Tartar": From Old French Tartaire, from Medieval Latin Tartarus (“Tartar, Mongol”), from Old Turkic [script needed] (Tatar), spelling influenced by Latin Tartarus (“Hell (in Greek mythology)”), from Ancient Greek Τάρταρος (Tártaros).
"1 - Alternative spelling of Tatar"
"2 - A member of the various tribes and their descendants of Tartary, such as Turks, Mongols and Manchus."
For "Tatar":
"A person belonging to one of several Turkic, Tatar-speaking ethnic groups in Eastern Europe, Russia and Central Asia."
"Tatar became a name for populations of the former Golden Horde in Europe, such as those of the former Kazan, Crimean, Astrakhan, Qasim and Siberian Khanates. The form Tartar has its origins in either Latin or French, coming to Western European languages from Turkish and the Persian language (tātār, "mounted messenger"). From the beginning, the extra r was present in the Western forms and according to the Oxford English Dictionary this was most likely due to an association with Tartarus. The Persian word is first recorded in the 13th century in reference to the hordes of Genghis Khan and is of unknown origin, according to OED "said to be" ultimately from tata. The Arabic word for Tatars is تتار. Tatars themselves wrote their name as تاتار or طاطار. Tatar is usually used to refer to the people, but Tartar has since come to refer to derived terms such as tartar sauce, steak tartare and the Tartar missile. All Turkic peoples living within the Russian Empire were named Tatar (as a Russian exonym). Some of these populations still use Tatar as a self-designation, others do not."
in general tartar was rare/raw somewhat unknown unfamiliar and easily alienated !... by and with purpose by those whom capable of such alienation and underhanded conquests tho’ small in number.
Thank you for this. I'm hunting a wabbit... so I read this whole thing 😊
Wow, wish I could say this was the most bizzare conspiracy theory I've ever heard, but it does make my top 5, knocking-down the one about the British Royals secretly being vampires...
Which is ridiculous because they are obviously reptilians.
Honestly that one sounds more plausible lol
But it's tRuE !!!! 😯 I actually came to post this, but am relieved to see somebody else already spoke the tRuTh. /Sarcasm 😜
Most conspiracy theory debunks put the theory far away from what the actual argument is. There was a lot of history rewritten by the bolsheviks to destroy peoples connections to other authorities. They needed to bend the knee to the Soviet Unions new society. And we all know who the bolsheviks were.
@@comradekenobi6908 Believe it or not, Epstein DID enter into the original conspiracy - his network was apparently how they aquired their 'meals.' The guy honestly made me question if there's LSD in our drinking water XD
British Encyclopedia of 17-18th century however mention Tartary or Tatary as a unified empire with its capital at Hambalik. This is writtrn in Russian, English, French sources and many others. The author of this video "forgets" to mention it!
@@mr.purple1779
I guess the Encyclopedia Britannica is only an authoritative resource to be used selectively when it happens to support your preferred modern mainstream narrative.
@Aditya Chavarkar 1600s to 1700s English (not even british) sources are the most reliable especially when it's about an area that was never explored by them at that point
It's intriguing to see K&G covering this theory, lol.
My sister's husband has a friend who is super into this theory (the Mud Flood version). This friend lives in New Brunswick, Canada, and the poor lad claims with every ounce of his being that the churches of St. John are proof of the existence of Great Tartaria. One of his main focal points in arguments is to refer to how the basement windows of some of the city of St. John's churches are not completely level with the surrounding ground, and therefore concludes that the churches had to have been partially buried by the Mud Flood.
We honest to the gods thought he was trolling, but he attends Great Mud Flood online meetings and even has a CZcams channel describing the theory. We still crack a rib laughing about it every now and then whenever I see my sister and in-law. I'll have to ask him what his channel is so that I can edit it here at a later date, lol.
Anyways, truly bizarre stuff, haha. I enjoyed watching your video, as usual. Keep up the amazing content K&G!
Yup, seems that since Fomenko's nonsense was translated into English, he acquired more fans all over the world. And now Tartaria and other conspiracies are spreading.
I hoped it would not happen... But we live not in the best reality
@@ontheline3077 yup, they even opened "museum" in Yaroslavl 😑
Weird that I just heard about fonenko’s nonsense last night and this morning this video pops out.
What is it with Russians and conspiracy theories? It's the Protocols of the Elders of Zion every ten years with these people.
@@TheBayzent lol, what? Look at yourselves. Westerners invented or popularized many more conspiracies even recently.
lol yes keep believing jesuit history
Shakespeare made references to the Tarters in some of his plays. In "Macbeth", one of the ingredients used in the witches potion is 'Tarter's lips'. And in "Much Ado About Nothing", a character jokes about grabbing the Great Khan's beard.
I have an old Globe at home my 10 month picked it up I've never paid attention to it because I assumed I knew the globe and its territories but I decided to read it and I saw Tarrar Riea on it and checked youtube. This was passed down by my great grandmother. And here I am.
Apparently on Tik Tok some ppl think ancient Rome was completely made up and never existed. Compared to that White Kathy and Tartary seem downright reasonable.
every day we stray farther from god...
Considering the region of the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, The balance of power mainly switched from a Turkic people to another Turkic people... in the following order ; Huns, Avars, Bulgars, Khazars, Pechenegs, Cumans, Tatars
Poor Scythians.
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@@Riftrender Scythians mixed into all those turkic groups, that later dominated the steppes, especially the Huns. Thats why the Huns or other asian tribes, are not as "asiatic" as chinese, koreans and mongols. They mixed with indo-europeans long ago, and is Euroasians today.
@@YaverMemolibaba yeah.
@@raclark2730 cry me a river, they are as white as turks:)
Fact : The Tatra Mountains, part of the Carpathian mountain chain in eastern Europe, create a natural border between Slovakia and Poland. Both Slovak and Polish sides are protected as national parkland and are popular destinations for winter and summer sports. The Tatras are home to wildlife including the Tatra chamois, marmot, lynx and bears. Slovakia has the highest mountain in the range: 2,655m Gerlach Peak
If Tartaria didn't exist then where did we get TARTAR SAUCE from?! HUH?! ANSWER ME THAT! NARRATOR GUY WHO SOUNDS LIKE HIS NAME IS PROBABLY NIGEL!
As a real Crimean Tatar, I approve of this video. Can you make more videos on the Tatar/Mongol confederation and perhaps some on the Crimean Khanate or the history of Crimea? It would be incredible and would help shed light and awareness of the Crimean Tatar people and their situation. Thank you for your great content, as always.
My Tatar brother, I am a karaite Tatar (qaray tatar) and krymchak tatar (qrımçah Tatar) this video is truly epic
@@latinobunny9882 Tataria is a Latinized term to describe lands ruled by Tatars. Tataria as you know it is not fake. It's a loose term European cartographers used to describe lands under Tatar governments which existed throughout Eastern Europe and Asia. China, in recent history, was also associated with greater Tataria due to the Qing Dyansty's Manchurian roots and ties with Tataria/Turkestan/Desht-i-Kipchak/Ulus Orda. Just as Germania describes lands ruled by Germans. Those very Tatar governments were toppled and now we are where we are. There is no conspiracy, it's just good ol' victor and vanquished.
Hello from a russian tatar from tatarstan :)
So where did the "Tartarian myth" start? I find it just as absurd to claim its fake as to say it's real without actually saying how it is relevant to modern day.
nice data in this video was that mongol wasnt a term used for ethnic grou todan brainwashed indians called themselves mongols thile timur and Babur himself didnt called themselves mongol but turkic as Uzbek i was amazed that kazan tatars share the very similar language with us i think tatar uzbeks kazakhs... all share same lineage like there is no other nations in the world calls each other brother nation
Tartaria totally exists. I made it in CK3 with my Vampire Lord and his sister-wife.
Lol there is a vampire ck3 game go play that. 😂
I feel like there should be a horse somewhere in this sentence as well.
Profile picture checks 😂
@@hebl47 and a sword
dungeons and drachma’
bro let us not forget the biggest influence they left behind their dank dank sauce.
Тартария, Туран, Тюркский каганат, Золотя орда была уничтожена внутренней войной за власть между Тюркскими народами, потомками Чингисхана, когда они перебили друг друга появились многие государства. Европейцы,Китайцы, Арабы и Русские переписали историю чтобы стереть этот длительный промежуток истории,но след который оставили Тюрки в архитектуре и языках мира никогда не стереть.
Where can I find this link between some people call ancient tartaria and ancient Turks, stay blessed!
In this Information Age, it’s pretty crazy to think how it was once possible for even well-informed people to simply not know what was happening in a huge geographical region for over 100 years.
“Well, our last update on China was from the 13th Century, but that Kublai Kahn seemed to have things under control, so I’m sure we’ll meet his descendants when we get there.”
Never even thought about this thats crazy.
A video on the Northern Yuan would be awesome stuff, especially in this style.
This video actually doesn’t explain the tartaria conspiracy or the mudflooding or the bogus world fairs in the early 1900s at all.
What about Marco Polo? He got to Cathay, but not through Tatary?
Man, f**k Marco Polo. I got no respect for a dude that keeps getting lost in swimming pools.
Finally, we will watch a solid historical video on this topic! No conspiracy theories about Siberian pyramids and prehistoric nuclear shelters!✌🥰
I love conspiracy theories. My favourite is that Serbian guy who's trying to prove ancient Egyptian is really a Serbian language.
Hi Ancient Sites 😉
@@Ian-yf7uf I had a laugh❤🤣
Also have you seen videos about a tik toker who thinks that Roman Empire didn't exist?
@@KateeAngel Isn't just a troll? I've seen a bit of that and immediately dismissed that as unfunny trolling.
You should do one addressing the afro centrist nonsense saying that all of European civilization was built by black people and that a few hundred years ago albino turks took over and tried rewriting history.
Thank you for posting this the whole tartaria conspiracy is so annoying and it makes me angry when people talk like it's a real thing
lol, you are ignorant in this subject. I got into this subject because I am in real estate and see the old world buildings made in ways we can't even replicate in modern era.
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Excellent work. I don't know if you take suggestions for videos but I'd love to see a similar video or a series of videos debunking some of the nonsense that groups like the Hoteps believe. Truth matters.
"Utilizing sources from any period always requires understanding their contexts and reasons why they were made, a level of nuance that the internet unfortunately is not always capable of reaching."
Read 'Empire of the Steppes' by Rene Grousset a compelling masterwork. Mongols under Genghis conquered Tatars kingdom and incorporated into his own, as such when mongols invaded Kievan Rus, tatars made up a significant number of mongol army. Captured warriors identified themselves as tatars (rightly so) that's how the name stuck.
The term "Tatar" is generally used by Turkic speaking populations. However, those populations considered themselves ethnically Mongol, and are generally associated with successor states of the Mongol empire which were often ruled by male-line descendants of Genghis Khan.
The Steppe empires were generally not ethnically homogenous, with tribal alliances playing a greater role than ethnicity and language. For example, the Avar Khanate was majority Slavic, and is associated with the Slavic migrations into the Balkans. Likewise, various Turkic tribes adopted a Mongol identity upon their absorption into the Mongol empire.
Those tatars were old mongol tribes from the hun empire times that lost contact with the mongols. Huns were mongols who conquered china, russia, rome, and most of europe. Atilla the hun was a mongol khan. One of those nations the europeans called tatrs were the cumens. They are depicted as having blonde hair and blue eyes, which is bs. There were only a few who did and those were northwestern europeans who joined the cumens later on. The cumens were also mongols but refused to join the mongol empire. So genghis khan sent jebedei to take them out. After the cumens lost, they rejoined the mongol empire and later became part of the golden horde (horde directly translates in mongolian to empire). So yes, tatars means mongols. Its just a word meant to demean mongols that just stuck around. Europeans, russians, and the chinese called mongols tatars.
@ComboMuster
I have a copy of 'Empire Of The Steppes' it's a must have for any serious student of Steppe Peoples History and Culture.
I recently heard someone making an impassioned defense of the Tartarian Empire.
I am a sucker for digging into shit like this so I did. It's pretty wild how many people are absolutely on board.
One of the first things you mentioned is where the whole thing collapses for me. There is absolutely nothing approaching uniformity in an origin story. I'm not talking minor deviations, there are several that are at direct odds with one another.
The other which I saw somewhere else was the idea that all of the neo classical architecture in the US and Europe is actually Tatarian and we just sorta "ignored" that Tartarians ruled over the US and went on with our lives.
It's inexplicably bizarre.
Beyond the fact that we know the style is a direct descendent of ancient Greece (who predate Tartars by several millenia), it's just bizarre that an empire allegedly operated in plain site and nobody thought to mention it.
The most bizarre is the the Columbian Exposition in Chicago at the start of the 20th century was allegedly a Tartarian city built inside of Chicago, to no local resistance, lasted for a year and was destroyed--against absent any resistance.
The internet is wild, man.
And the tatars were Building in neoclassical style 🤣🤣 they were romaboos
And the Greek and the Romans can't show and tell how they built any of their classical buildings.
That goes for the pyramids too.😂😂😂😂
I remember that Zi came across a CZcams video and the comment section had people going Tartara. Now I know why.
Thank you!!!!!!! Theres so many weird conspiracies theories about this that its nice to have something like this thats more realistic
Have you heard the one that it was buried in a mud flood? I heard about it one channel called the crowhouse. The guy talking was a complete nutter. I couldn't believe the madness he was saying. Funny as hell 🤣
Edit. I made this comment before I actually started the video
There are none conspiracy theories there only viable and true and the one that ain’t.Conspiracies was a every day on every empire especially in Roman and later Byzantine empire and especially today with all those multi billion profits made.
All I heard about the Grand Tartary is that they're responsible for the Pyramids in China, as well as the red headed and blonde mummies from the Tarim Basin. That the people being genocided in China, the Uyghurs, are a mix descended from, partially the Tartars and partially the Han Chinese.
@@jamp12008 you should look at the photos of the structures buried by, well - mud. It’s not really a conspiracy, what’s a conspiracy is the ideology behind it - being that it was an advanced civilisation
@@jamp12008 but then again, there’s heaps of proof that Nikola Tesla got his ideas from these people
The term "Great" in "Great Tartary" simply means distant, in distinction from Lesser or Little Tartary. A similar usage occurs for Lesser and Greater Poland, Old Great Bulgaria, and Asia Minor. Great Tatary is contrasted with lesser Tatary, which referred to the steppes near the black sea. Often, but not always, the 'Greater' territory is larger, but only because the area is less well defined into smaller subunits. Great Tartary basically means "distant Tartary."
@@therealunclevanya Indeed, in other languages like Spanish and French the words for Britain and Brittany are the same.
Quit pathetic when I hear people use the term Asia minor, referring to North East Africa, where you have Israel, Palestine, Yemen and other countries around the region, simply by Europeans creating a cannel to detached it from the larger continent of Africa. Same people tell you Egypt is not in Africa... Lol
One day they will tell you Michael Jackson was a European, and Mandela was Dutch...lol
tartar reminds me of the sauce lol
@@Flat_Earth_Addy no shit
@@Flat_Earth_Addy Listen Lucy how ignorant if I know what tartarsauce is and where it comes from +the name? lol or else I won't reply with "no shit". Typical betweter reaction
Didn't expect to be dragged down another random rabbit hole...thx interwebs
We need more government funded channels like this
This theory sounds like someone posted a retelling of the events of their game of Crusader Kings on Reddit and other people with no knowledge of history thought they were serious. This is also my new head-canon to explain the "Rome never existed" conspiracy theorists.
😂
Isn't Tartary a ck2 formable?
@@K.Haaast everyone g angsta till the ck2 mongol player start spitting bars *OOOAAAAAA*
@@rachard *starts to aggressively beatbox*
11:03 As a Volga Tatar myself that was interesting to know.
We are always told that we just adapted the exonym and before that just called ourselves Muslims, or "Kazan people".
or Bulgar?
@Mehmed Islamof Greetings, brother. :)
@@user-uz9sr4jj7f AFAIK the ideology of Bulgarism appeared only in the second half of the 19th century with the Wäisi movement. And still it was just a movement and not a universally accepted idea.
@@mr.purple1779 Don't forget Volga Finns.
@@mr.purple1779 Not noticeable? Seriously? Look at the genetic makeup of Volga Tatars. 28.3% of them (the largest percentage) bear the Finnish haplogroup N. Which confirms that the bulk of modern Kazan Tatars are ancient Volga Finns assimilated into the Turkic culture.
I occasionally follow Tartaria stuff but more as a worldbuilding exercise instead of an actual conspiracy theory.
Got to admit, it does tickle the creative juices a bit.
Seems to be poplular with women
Lmao my friend I totally understand you on that 😂 I felt the same when I first heard about the silica trees age and the conspiracy theory that some mountains are really big tree stomps (I believe one of them is called "devil's column/tower" and it's in the US, I think). It's absolutely bonkers, but it tickles my imagination and my fantasy-novels-writing butt XD
All things Tartary’ should not be heaped in the (konspiracy) file, it is a term a clue to a rich history which runs through so many Nations (in and of ) !
Videos and discussions like this are important. There's a large group of educated or knowledgeable people that will come across someone talking about this and laugh at them, point, and mock them. It doesn't help and more often than not the person doesn't decide "perhaps they're right - I should investigate this more." No, usually they say "That guy's a POS and I'll prove him wrong!" The double down, dig their heels in, read or watch more by a creator with faulty logic or facts.
That helps no one. If the first person would instead say "I saw a video on that as well but they have a different theory. I'll send it to you." Well, that's a completely different discussion now. It can be a discussion now. The truth is no one likes to feel stupid but we're all ignorant about most things. Life has become specialized and everyone studies their subject and relies on the honesty and integrity of everyone else for other subjects. I don't know much at all about medicine, automotive repair, physics, or Chinese history. Doctors spend so much time studying medicine they're often ignorant about areas of popular culture or other subjects the average person does spend time on. It's not about intelligence but what we've experienced or been taught. Most of my beliefs are likely wrong in all those areas.
A kind and generous person would likely try and share some of that knowledge that I do not possess. A douchebag would likely laugh, point, and mock because insecure people love to take advantage of opportunities feel superior. In short I suppose I'm saying spend more time making friends than enemies and you'll likely find the world is full of more good people than bad. You can choose to share what you know or not but that likely says more about you than it does them.
Kings And Generals: "Other Version has the same Process but instead sticks the Blame on History's favorite Scapegoat"
"There's no such thing as a Favorite Scapegoa-"
Kings and Generals: The Jews
"Okay nevermind"
The term "Tatar" or "Tartar" has stayed pretty strong in our minds to this day. Perhaps my favorite case of using the term is in a fantasy setting, such as in Phillip Pullman's "His Dark Materials": Lyra's world is pretty much ours but history changed in quite some ways, and in that world this "Tartary" does exist, located in what we would call in our own universe "North European Russia". In the books it's mentioned many fear the Tartars who raid coasts and, much like the protagonists, want to go North to plunder more wealth (such as the "Kingdom of Svalbard").
truths only allowed in fiction section
I’ve only heard it on that movie bringing down the house when Steven Martin says “there is no sign regarding dogs which means there is no policy against dogs! now what you need to do bring me some chicken Tartar for Mr. Shakespeare ON THE HOUSE!” 😂
I love that series... I can't read so can u spoil the ending for me?! I can read CZcams...
I seriously could not remember where I had come across this before. It’s been bugging the Hell out of me. One of my all time favorite book series.
Didn't the "tartars" guard the facility in the north where they were experimenting on the kids? At least in the tv version..
Great work, as always.
The Europeans Calling a big Part of Asia "Tartaria" is Like the Romans calling a big Part of Europe Germania.
As an American living in the Netherlands, I can tell you that many of my countrymen insist that I live in Scandinavia.
Than you for making a video to refute this insanity I've found all over the internet.
STAY 🐑 YA 🤡
I had no idea that an entire mythos was created around Tartary. Thanks for dispelling myths I didnt even know existed.
The idea of “Tartaria” has been trending among white supremacist conspiracy theorists, who are DESPERATE to conjure up a common ancestral civilization, in order to justify land claims and solve internal strife.
To understand why, look into real world examples happening right now of people wanting to fill a cultural void in order to justify continued control-such as the Mormons, who are currently attempting to usurp as the founders of the Maya civilization in order to steal land from the local natives (Look up Utah-born Mormon/Mayan archaeologist Richard Hansen’s interview with Vice for more).
While Europeans once collectively revered the Roman Empire as their common ancestral civilization-a schism happened when the radicalized descendants of northern Barbarians and Vikings resented being seen as the catalyst to the empire’s downfall. The idea of Tartaria fixes that by uniting both factions under a common ancestral civilization.
The reason this theory is now hitting the West is because it is being used as a misinformation campaign by Russian intelligence seeking to radicalize people into extremist ideologies for purposes of psychological warfare.
you haven't missed much... the crazy world of Tartaria is a rabbit hole best avoided.. unless you like to be amused by loony toon ideas.. The mudflood that was alluded to, is a whole new level of bat-shittery that even makes flatearth seem tame.
@@CloroxBleachCompany Wut?!
@@CloroxBleachCompany sounds about right to me, they are Swamp People, and they get covered in a mud flood.... thats almost too perfect
@@CloroxBleachCompany I mean the Caucasian mummies found in China are a bit head scratching.
There were TARTARS for a long time.
People are trying to make this way bigger than it actually is and blow it out of proportions and truth. They want to relate everything to tartaria because it’s something they heard that sounded cool and then they want to sound smart and be at the front of a so called “break through.” It’s simply just a term to simplify an area like Asia which is made up of 48 countries.
Based on that one map's style and inclusion of much of the Americas, this would be during the early years of Russia. Even though Russia (shown as Muscovie on the map) is already shown, Grande Tartaria is 100% Russia. The name would make sense due to the geographical distribution of actual Tartars and the assumption that east = Tartar.
I hope this becomes a series, debunking popular historical theories from all over the world. We are in the age of misinformation afterall.
Great idea
Great Lechia (Lechina empire) will be a great example of "turboslavic" empire of the past
Yes! The so called owner of the Philippines, the Tallano family, would be a wonderful topic to be debunked
@@adamkaczmarek4751 A lot of early slavic history is very hard to prove or disprove one way or another
I learned about this empire in middle school with Ghengis Khan.
What is wrong with all of you?
Thanks for posting this. A very bizarre subject
Always thought it had something to do with Russia. Haven't watched yet, looking forward to it. EDIT: Ok, so I watched it! British must be involved, right? How to explain Tartar Sauce, otherwise? But do the British even use Tartar Sauce, or do they use vinegar? Still confused here.
Its funny because according to some keyboard specialists, it doesn't even end 200 years ago... They will point to monumental historicist architectural from around 1910 like that in Paris, Vienna, Nyc etc, of barely 3 generations ago.
They will claim that humanity, who accomplishes structures as the those in Dubai today, was not able to build monumental 8 story hotels in 1900.
You know, it's funny, because the Burj Khalifa doesn't even have a sewage system.
Ironically I bet you blindly believe all Jesuit forced history and science 😂
The catholic (and other sects of the) church did change the meaning behind the original sin and the afterlife by having the Bible rewritten a couple times.
The afterlife didn't always mean forever suffering in hell because you didn't want to serve the church's interests, marry or some other obscure bs. Christ taught of pitying sinners over resenting them, since
real sin can only be by choice and as a result - a weak character. Not because of base impulses, necessity or other trickery, but because of character.
Oh, and then there's a small, even crazier subsection nestled between some nationalists, flat-earthers and new chronology folk, who argue that central asia is in fact New World, (as in, it doesn't actually exist to the west of Atlantic), with grand canyon, major american rivers, great lakes etc. being in fact located in kazakhstan, while some other sites are located in uzbekistan and other countries. I didn't figure out at the time if it was some elaborate troll, and at this point I'm too afraid to ask.
I have a theory, in the russian monarchy flag there is a horseman and a black dragon, in the Tartary flag the same black dragon is present. I think the russian flag is a evidence that it already conquered Tartary.
In order to watch a debunk vid I need to sit through an ad as if I'm watching an episode of bs on MSM 🤣