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OO Gauge Model Railway Layout In The Shed - Part 9 - Big Changes
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Hallelujah.....great looking Peco locos
The beauty is in the simplicity...far too easy to get mired down these days listening to the "experts" telling you you need this, that and the other to be a real modeler. Marching to your own drum is the best way to enjoy the hobby.
Wow. My cave is 16x10 and my problem I see now is that I've tried to use all the available space eg 10x10. I can see I should start small say 10x3 and build on if need be. I've never finished and I've been at it on and off for about six years! I've spent £££ trying to get there. I'm not a modeller or DIYer. I've tried this plan and that plan and never finished anything.
This gives me new hope. Thank you
Great video great layout 👍
Layouts are never finished!!!😁😁😁
This is crazy... But good!!!😍
You have a big adventure there! This vídeo was a great trip! Cheers!😉
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Always love your layouts thanks
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great stuff as ever its gona look great enjoy
Always good to get fresh inspiration and that channeling is perfect for bridging the gaps you have.
Like it, back to back...
Very inspiring got me thinking again about my layout. Thank you.
Thanks, keep it simple and just do it is my best advice. Don't over plan and get something started
Like the way you think it out. 🤔
I love the fact you are using off-cuts for your newest railway scheme. They fit your needs and are kept out of a landfill. I'm really enjoying your channel and the creativity you bring to the hobby. Bless you.
That's very kind thanks
That Piko steam loco is a real beauty! I Look forward to see the progress on this one.
Brilliant video - I can hear the excitement in your voice as you talk about your plans for the layout and it inspires me - thank you!
What an inspiring video, I do so agree with you. I have both the railbus and deltic kits never worked out the best way of doing them, well thanks now I do. Please keep these subject videos so helpful for me thanks John
Glad we could help, thanks for the comments
Just watched your video. Absolutely inspiring. I like your recycling🤙
Thanks
I love what you do! Just love it! Modeling and running trains for the enjoyment of it. You’re not trying to be on the front cover of RM, you’re just having FUN! And surely that’s what this hobby is all about 🤩 I said it before, but you were the inspiration I needed to get my own layout started, so thanks also for that ☺️👍
There are too many outlets for perfection at any cost brigade so I like to show an alternative. You can have just as much fun at half the cost lol. Thanks for supporting
@@BudgetModelRailways How is Doug’s A levels going? As I have the first of my leaving certificate applied exams next week.
@@oscarosullivan4513 thanks for asking. He is just sitting mocks, he is doing 4 A levels so it's pretty fraught. The real exams are a month away, fingers crossed and good luck with your exams
@@BudgetModelRailways Our mocks happened in early spring. Am at the measuring out for platforms. Dual Imperial and Metric tapes are a nightmare for reading and marking in metric.
Brilliant...another project....what a great idea using one layout to run alongside another through a shared station....look forward to seeing this develop
Interesting that you have gone for Piko. I started buying their products over 50 years ago when I was working in Czechoslovakia, more by accident than intent. There was, at that time, almost nothing of value in their shops, being just after the Russian takeover. As I was given expenses at western levels in local currency it was difficult to spend it. There is only so much Czech beer that can be drunk! Anyway, a search of the shops revealed a Piko stockist and I bought a load of locos and rolling stock each time I returned. This was all with a view to my retirement.
The stock is still very good quality and detail even by the standard of today. About 3 years ago, I visited the still active Piko factory in the old East Germany. Not everything was still being made on site and they have diversified into G scale.
I'm still working on the layout, having been too busy as carer for my late wife but even now 81 I still am determined to carry on to get it up and running.
Great story thanks. Hope you have a great time with your model railway, I have some of the older Piko models too, they are great. Take care and have fun
oh wow im looking forward to this. I have to say your layout is one of my favourites and i agree with alot of what you do. I really like that your not trying to show off expensive locos and trying to make everything perfect. Really looking forward to see how this project this develops.
Thanks, there are more than enough channels showing you how to throw money at model railways, we like to counter all that
Was looking forward to Sompting but now have a funeral in Bristol that weekend. Lovely to see the shed layout developing, you remain my main inspiration in getting things actually done !! Wishing you well.
Sorry to hear that, my condolences. Hope the railway is going well
I love how you promote this 'whatever floats you boat' approach to the hobby, ever since I dropped the obsessive, perfectionist approach I have become more laid-back and enjoyed myself more. In the past I went over-the-top on buying buildings, rolling stock and locos that were uniform to a particular region/company and an era, but it came at great expense and all the money that I wasted could've been invested in other things I would need more. I run LBSC Terrier locos with LNWR 6-wheel coaches and BR Blue diesels with private owner coal wagons, and you know what, I couldn't care less what anybody else thinks about my layout and train formations.
I am astounded at the pricing of today's brand new models, £100+ for a locomotive, £35 for a wagon, £60 a coach the list goes on. No wonder so many people who would love to get into the hobby become put off. I don't understand any logic from Hornby believing that charging £500 for a train pack should cost more than a 7-night self-catering holiday in Spain.
Thanks. What annoys me is that Piko can produce an excellent basic bo bo diesel for £60 with wagons at £13 yet Hornby need £100-200 for a loco and £20+ for a wagon. Sadly Piko is German HO so of little interest in the UK. Prices and the drive for perfection are ruining the hobby, like you say it should be about fun
@@BudgetModelRailways The Germans are showing us how it should be done like in many things.
@@BudgetModelRailways American HO seems to be more cheaper than average European HO, so I can see why European outline is of little interest in the UK in comparison to American. I was interested in getting European HO trains but saw the prices and was really baffled by how expensive they were, more ridiculous than Hornby or Bachmann.
@@AgenoriaModelTrains the Piko Hobby Range has some very cheap diesels
Really looking to follow you on this epic journey. Little by little it will all come together to make a great railway knowing you. You've made me think twice about prices I've paid in the past and there's something rewarding to making a finished product out of offcuts and scrap as after the landscaping is done . . . who would ever have known !! Think the idea of running them separately gives so much more options whilst looking connected. Just Brilliant, love it.
Very kind thanks, my layouts are a bit like film sets shiny out front but just mess below lol
Looks like a fun project.
Koolest ❤️🚂😎👍
Great thinking and love your enthusiasm and the simplicity of your build. You are so right some modellers do over engineer (I was guilty) but thanks to you I have learned to enjoy the “ playing with trains “ side of our hobby. 👍👍
Happy Easter. Your layout has inspired me, and I’m basing my new layout of of yours. Have a good day.
another great video. i bought the piko shunter, its brilliant. thanks for the heads up
Thanks, glad we could help
Wow your brain must go at hundred miles an hour . What about the loaf layout ? I like your ideas which helps me get motivation with my ho layout ,I’ve got OO layout and building a shelf ho layout above my exciting layout. Thanks for the motivation! ! Regards Mark
The loft layout is very dormant for all sorts of reasons. Glad you enjoy what we do and have fun with your layouts
Your Instagram link doesn't work. But I was able to find you. Enjoyed the video. Thank you.
You can make a nice Viaduct bridge for that curve to raise that up.. If possible.. Just a thought..Best of luck with that.
A viaduct is planned
Very good ideas!
Thanks! hurrah! Very best wishes to you all 🤗
That loco packaging polystyrene as a support caught me off guard 😁 looking forward to seeing how this progresses, especially with the need to have removable sections.
As for the loco pricing; spot on.
Hey Mike! That is going to be fantastic! I can't wait to see this build progress
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What a great way to link all the layouts👍😊 and the ‘across the shed door’ section so reminds me of dads layout in the shed! 😁 I think we used to be able to walk under it without banging our heads 😅
Banged mine twice just for old times sake lol
Happy Easter. Excellent video, just love the plan seems in some ways a shame when completed can show it. Just simple and cheap way to go Thanks
Happy Easter to ye all. Still have my Lima ho 33 with her 3 blood and custard coaches, a carlsberg van wagon and a tanker. Christmas 1976/77 I think. Still flying but looks lightweight alongside her oo brethren. This new project is exciting. Love the content
You're too much! Lol!! I alway believe the best ideas happens in those late hours. Very ambitious. Can't wait to see the outcome. Good luck!
Great video, I love the layout and what you are planning to do. I also agree with you, I don't know why Hornby Locomotives and rolling Stock has to be so expensive. Keep up the good work.
Hello,the layout is getting bigger, and progress.what a brilliant idea to add the track by the shed door and keeps it running.the piko steam loco is a cheap engine.
I plan to do HO/OO Continental, because HO rolling stock being cheep, but I have a lot of UK Rolling Stock I can not part with and I do not want to make two layouts either. So I want to do a combined.
Smashing - wish I could get Piko that cheap in the UK
This was in the UK?
@@BudgetModelRailways Nowhere I can find as cheap as yours though!
I had that piko model when I was younger but sadly it broke...great little runner, gonna have to buy a new one at some stage
I'm thinking of adding a few more foreign models to my collection, I'm mainly fast UK passenger trains (predominantly HST's) but I have one TGV would like the silver/blue one too and a white ICE, but would love to start a collection of japanese bullet trains 😀
Great video again, like the idea of the good prices of PICO trains will look into this for future purchases. Thank you for your time again on another great video.
It's worth remembering that continental stock has different couplings and is smaller than UK OO, but the range is epic and second hand prices much cheaper
Love it
That's fabulous Mike and I'll bet it will look astonishing by the time you have finished. I think we are all getting fed up with paying for Hornby/Bachman/Dapol/Heljan prices, it really is a joke when you look at some of the things that have gone up in price and then realise they are old models with a different paint. Keep safe. Frank
What annoys me as well is people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about reg manufacturer costs. If Piko can make a perfectly acceptable Diesel with directional lights, crew, all wheel pick up and drive for £60 new then so can Hornby etc
Great video Mike. I love the concept of having a layout that runs all the way around the shed. As for the prices of Piko vs Hornby I agree 100% it would be nice if they could produce steam and diesel locomotives at much cheaper prices especially at the moment with a lot of the price increases in the Hornby range. - Nicholas.
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My name is Ethan Armitage. Cool train layout.
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You don’t have to do it but I would personally love a collection video as u have a lot of engines and rolling stock cheers guy 😀
I don't think I would want to admit how much I have lol. But I will try and show some of it in future videos
As I keep saying simplicity is the key...
It works for me, I've heard and seen two many huge projects never get finished or even started, inc my own loft layout because the plans were too grand and complex
Your ingenuosity is always astonishing gentleman. About HO, I repeat myself here but, if I had not bought dozens of OO models already, I would have discard the idea of buying UK trains due to the poor overall price/quality of UK trains models and buy a narrow but good selection of HO models instead (yes, I've done both by now...). I had started a decade ago with UK models because they were overall cheaper than continental models, and I understand now at which price it is... As you said, you have continental manufacturers that are realistic towards what their customers can spend for the hobby.
You remind me that I have a PLM railway station to look closely for one of my projects. Thanks for the video, always instructing, if not fascinating.
Love it Mike,i know i have told you before but i was very nearly put off coming back to this wonderful hobby over the cost of everything model railway linked,that was until i found your great videos! You dont have to spend a fortune to have fun well done Mike :)
Thanks, we do our best to offer an alternative more welcoming attitude lol
@@BudgetModelRailways Great stuff ! Keep up the good work
The good thing about you tube is we can all learn something from each other and for those who feel they must have a minimum layout for 00 gauge measuring
8’ x 4” all I can say is they haven’t watched budget model railways ? I’ve just watched a guy not from the Uk who thinks you must have a minimum of 3 separate levels so to have 3 lots of separate track and 3 locomotives running on them at the same time , In my opinion this is simply a lot more work and expense and who wants that because I certainly don’t ( As Mike has said many times keep it simple it’s a hobby to be enjoyed and he’s right 👍
Paul
Thanks for the support. Only the other day one of the monthly magazines was quoting that the absolute minimum for OO was 6x4 feet!
I just can’t understand this obsession that to enjoy the hobby we must have a minimum of 3 tracks , and have the very latest locomotives which all must be dcc with perfect detail ,
Why anyone would want to pay £200 for a locomotive just because it has lovely detail and makes a noise is completely beyond me 🤷🏼♂️ but let’s be honest as long as folk keep paying these prices then greedy companies such as Hornby and Bachman will keep charging it !!!
The type of layouts that we are seeing on you tube will certainly not have been done on a budget, and how many people in the Uk with the cost of living being the way it is can honestly afford such a layout or have the room in which to do it 🤔
Beginners such as myself will watch these videos and think no way can I afford this hobby I don’t have the room or the money so they think forget it 🤔. ( and I would be one of them ) Thankfully we have budget model railways who show it can be done and Mike has always produce really nice affordable layouts that any beginner can enjoy building and this is why I watch every video they do because they are the only channel who want to encourage beginners not drive them away 🤨. Paul
hello, mike. i like what you are doing. i would like to see overhead views of all the layouts you have, to see how the towns are laid out, particularly the back edges that are out of sight. looking forward to what you might show us. regards, bill.
Hi Bill I did show one in an earlier video , but next video I do I will do an overhead view for you
@@BudgetModelRailways thank you. not just for me, but ALL viewers, followers, will find that view helpful, and encouraging, in their own endeavours
@@BudgetModelRailways thank you, mike. i would like to see this layout from above
this is brilliant seeing this has made me want to get some more ho now seeing those prices I have just the one German loco at the moment purely because I like it but see this has inspired me to expand and maybe build my own ho layout live your videos been watching for the last couple of years first time comment 😂👌🏻
Thanks for commenting, I have my HO on hold while I finish my OO layout, but I have plans for the HO the rolling stock and locos are just too nice to ignore
Cheers :)
Gawd, felt a bit dizzy watching that! But it’s gonna be a great layout!
Looks very good 👍 I have an H0-layout but I have recently added some UK rolling stock. I am planning to connect an OO-layout to my H0-layout 🙃😊 By the way, Piko has great stuff, I agree with you! Greetings from 🇧🇪
Thanks hello to Germany
I think that should be Belgium.
@@gordanmilne7034 lol should have put my glasses on, sorry. Hello to Belgium!!
Did you count the starter sets or the Piko shop offerings for the Hobby range?
My count is the following (for the Hobby range, excluding the expensive ones that probably don't belong there)
3 steamers in various color schemes. A 0-4-0 tank engine, a 0-4-0 with tender and a 0-8-0 which is DCC ready and has a very good tender drive motor
3 diesels (218, DieselTraxx and OBB Hercules)
4 electrics (Taurus, 185, 189 and 101)
The rubber drive diesels are from an even lower price range (MyTrain)
What you did forgot to tell is that Piko does fit proper NEM shafts with close coupling capabilities on all the freight and passenger cars in the Hobby range. Only the MyTrain stuff has the old stamped sheetmetal couplings.
Another good deal in HO scale are the Roco sets with 8 freight cars, these end up being about 10 euro per car at the current price point.
I agree with your assessment of the value in buying HO second hand gear. I've got a Inglenook board made with the usual code 100 HO Peco track, with bargain price Flieshmann locos, sorting pre-owned OO wagons. via a shunters match wagon. I'm prepared to swop couplings, to run what I want on my bit of preservation railway.
The LNER before the end of steam would be my dream layout, but available space, budget and but collecting Preloved items, from different countries, why not build a 'museum' layout, working a random selection of vehicles brought together. A further wild idea was to assume it is a museum of Romney Hyde and Dymchurch scale vehicles in a Minifig world - and use Lego to create the buildings, Lego people to decorate the spaces. There is boxes of Lego in our loft, I've got the rolling stock. I've retired recently, and a 3 by 2 metre room inside is a potential railway room. Your full lap circuit is the first feature I hope to make, later connecting to a separate U shaped layout. All DC of course. The terminal sections I plan to build as modules to enable swopping the trackwork. A Station to an industrial scene or a fiddle yard, That's for later. If you have the space and the models... the Big Boy 4014 can stand alongside Flying Scotsman, with its double tender and coaches, there are moving pictures to prove it!!! Keep up the good work.
Sounds great, have fun with it
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I have a lot of 00 stuff and an 8x6 shed. Can I ask do you use nickel silver tracks or steel? I’m worried about tracks Rusting
I use a mix, steel is fine but does take a bit more cleaning, I have never had rust issues though. I do but all my track and points second hand so have a big variety of makes of track, but I only ever use Peco points
Only just seen this! I was in Lincs at the father-in-laws over the weekend and his internet was down! My goodness, that’s a big step up! Good one though. Can’t believe how good that diesel is and if you can get new engines that cheap then it shows how you can be accessible to new hobbyists without breaking the bank. I do like many of the Hornby new releases, but like you I find myself wondering why there isn’t more of a market for cheaper models 🤷🏻♂️
In truth, I don’t think it’s helped by this snobbery that exists, which I swear is behind this trend for almost ridiculously obsessive emphasis on detail. It’s as though they want to make pure enjoyment taboo! I wouldn’t mind, but I find a lot of the detailing doesn’t work as it almost makes the model unusable at times, because you are scared to snap off a delicate piece. It’s ok if you are a fine scale modeller or you make things like that from brass or lost wax metal, but otherwise it is just an expensive accident waiting to happen! 🙄
Nice use of the trunking by the way. Great thing about that is the ease with which you can remove it safely and it’s rigidity when stored 💡🤓
Nice one mate, great to see the expo layout is ready to go too 👍🍻🍀
Hi, thanks, agree with you 100%, I've even seen reviews of new high end locos that say couplings are included in case you want to run the loco?!
I had American running too. Often the foreign stuff is better made than UK
I agree. Usually, my HO/N stuff has better features an an higher quality than some of what I can see in OO, including some OO models I have bought... And not always at an higher price than the equivalent offer in OO/british N. I have now receive an Arnold SNCF DMU that is a nice little jewel for a decent price. Irony : Arnold is now owned by Hornby...
I have that german loco it's a tanks
Could you put a link to where you got the piko locos from.
Hi, Jadlam Racing, Scograil mostly. Have a hunt around not just on ebay as prices vary hugely, and don't forget to factor in postage.
And another tip: know your manufacturers... Especially the ones that don't exist anymore.
Besides Piko you also have Schicht, Prefo, Sachsenmodelle and Gützold which are all coupler compatible with each other, as all these brands were eventually merged into Piko.
For the west German stuff you have Rowa (predecessor of Roco) and KMB aka Klein.
Lima did once sell part of their range branded as Hema.
Where did you get that (covered bridge)??
From Classic Rail a few years ago, it only cost me £5
Would you be able to send a link to the range? I tried to find it, but ended up finding the expensive ones.
I don't have a link. If you go into the retailers website and search Piko Hobby they will be in there, likewise with ebay
@@BudgetModelRailways Thanks for the help. I appreaciate it.
@@REDARROW_A_Personal ebay is good but shop around for best price and postage rates for Piko hobby locos
@@BudgetModelRailways I will and thanks again.
Still watching🚂🚃🇨🇦🇬🇧👍
Hi gang ,do you have a link for the piko hobby diesel for the price you paid I want to treat myself on a diet so chocolate restricted hehe,happy Easter mate
I got mine from Jadlam Racing and Scograil
@@BudgetModelRailways cheers I’ll look them up
It's worth remembering that they are not compatible with OO , having different couplings and being smaller
@@BudgetModelRailways I know I have a collection of German and French models plus some US ,but thanks for letting me know mate .👍🏻😊
Where did you get these locos from Mike?
Jadlam Racing and Scograil, both recommended
It's worth remembering that they have different couplings to OO and are smaller. I've just bought a red bo bo diesel from Scograil £61 inc inc post. Immaculate detail superb runner even down to a crawl and directional lighting
is OO and HO gauge the same size track
Yes but the scale of locos rolling stock and buildings is smaller. HO track is correct gauge whereas OO should really be 2-3mm wider to ge accurate
Did you remove the videos of your oo9 layout.?
No, we haven't removed any videos?
@@BudgetModelRailways ok that’s good I must have missed them when I was scrolling back.
The detail just isn't there. Great vid cheers
Do ho run on 00 track
Yes they are the same
Great video. Hornby and value for money appear to have parted company. Looks like they are only interested in making money these days. A real shame as the Railroad 0-4-0s and 0-6-0s were the only truly affordable options in new OO gauge. Not any more.
The 0-4-0s have gone up from £40 to £56 in two years, the latest 0-6-0 went up from £50 to £66 between launch and delivery, a 20+% rise. No other manufacturer has seen such rises. Piko hobby range makes the Hornby railroad range look very expensive
I think my subscription ended lol
I think you're trying to give us motion sickness.
Love what you're doing, the videos are my inspiration but out here in Australia even Piko the prices for locos are thru the roof!. Keep up the good work, you're gonna need a bigger shed soon!