After riding Vsett 8 and Vsett 10+ I must say that there are one of most cuality scooters on the market for the price with 8 newer problem it is City beast. And with 10+ no one woble riding hige speads 60+ kmh and no stem moving its solid and good scooters. I love them.
I plan on upgrading to air springs on my Blade X and having pivot construction the same as all other scooters, using cheap metal bushings, I plan to use a very pricey grease used for my mtb. Finishline pure fleuro, basically teflon grease. By using it you essentially lube for life.
where did you get the tires? can you drop the link? Shouldn't it be 10x3? It's been 500km. the yellow handles on the handlebars keep coming loose thanx
You say " that expensive " but overall its an A performing scooter at the B+ price range. There are scooters out there almost twice as expensive as the 10+. This guy has also had his for like 2 years now with near daily usage as a delivery driver. So his 10+ must have been one of their first ones so can't say for sure if the screws thing is still a thing in 2022 with the different variants available today.
@@schism6976 it's expensive. i literally rode over 35 000 km on a regular bicycle that cost 100 euro from a friend and 100 euro maintenance. tell me what fucking scooter will do 35k kilometers without paying thousands of dollars? the price per km driven is absolutely insane
@@sdfefde haha you compare bike (15kmh) with scooters (50kmh). Average speeds not comparable. Also fuel consumption: electrics are so much cheaper than human work. Human time and food cost much.
I would like to know the kind of environment you mostly ride , is it city streets you ride or dirt trails? And what is your weight as I am 215 pounds and makes me wonder how well this would last.
hey mate! when did you buy your scoot? im seeing some are shipped with nutt/zoom brakes now??? have you read or seen any of this??? and also thats ashame witht he tires. idk i might just get a vsett9+ with the biggest battery possible and call it a day, im already out of my budget going for the 10+ i also only weigh around 58kg so im sure the 9+R would rip me anyway. Also im coming from a gotrax G4 thats 350w single motor..... but i also ride a cr250 that i cant even touch the ground on and i absolutely send on it hahaha. lookling for some excitement when i get a chance to open the scooter up you know??? if u can answer me any input would be cool. also hows your twist bolt on the nexk??? do u fold the scoot often? or leave it up? ive heard the bolt that holds the clamp in can strip over time.
yo yo :) I bought it 2021 august i think or maybe October something like that :D ... Yes I noticed that too and some even have different motors, they probably changed to Nutt brakes because those stock ones were getting issues like I have right now. Yeah I think for you 9+ should be a great buy just make sure to make your research on what the issues are as 9+ is slightly worse quality, but with that weight you have it should suite you. On the other hand think of it this way if you can buy the best you can and enjoy it to the max especially if you plan to keep it for a long time isn't it better to save up a bit more and go for the premium one like 10+ ? :) otherwise you might not like 9+ acceleration or something else and then you will feel regret that you should have saved up a bit more and gotten that other one :) well at least test both to see which one you like more. I can tell you once you try 10+ its not going to disappoint :D ... regarding the bolt I mainly have it fixed at all times...I folded my scoot only 3 times :D but 99% of the time it is on fixed position. I have to heard or seen any issues with folding mechanism, but even after 3600 km it is not moving at all it is as stirdy as it was from day one :)
@@Guitarnoob99 awesome response dude i appreciate it so much. and yeah i dont want buyers remorse after getting the 9+ and being like wow i wish i had some more power here and there- cause really in the end its only a few hundred more and as u said the quality is better- just the fact the 10+ has hydraulic brakes and 10" wheels is almost worth 200$ more, nevermind the power and such. my thing though is im either going to have to get the 10+ with the 20.8ah battery (smallest config at $1890) or the 9+ with the largest battery 21.6ah ($1625) my question now for u to me i guess is, knowing that i only weigh like 130lbs or so haha do you think the 20.8ah battery on the 10+ (assuming im not ripping 30+ ALL the time, i will be around 18-25 though alot id say, and i plan to adjust P settings to make the scooter slightly less insane so i can be in dual motor on level 1-2-3 and not die or burn battery like hell) do u think with teh basic 20.8ah config on the 10+ for $1890 that i would get a decent range out of it? i know its really hard to say with weather and all that but- all of the reveiws i see whether its with 20.8ah or the 28ah battery everyones so heavy and really doesnt drive it normaly for their "range tests" often. idk if i can get over 30 miles range going between 15-30 most of the time, and occasionally MAYBE slighly faster, then i would be super happy with the 1890 price tag. i KNOW i can get that out of the v9+ but idk. i really wanna make the right choice here. also too the vsett9+ compared to the 10+ the hydraulic brakes are huge for me coming from fairly heavy mtb backround and such. i know at speeds you want those. 9+ has none :L
@@TheRealElectricOutdoors yeah deff go for 10+ if you can affor it :) ... the range well my guess is that the smalles battery could give you 40km of range easy, I can also say when I was testing my thing there was no difference in the range wether I used single or dual motors wich is weird, so just keep going on DDM and you should get 40 km :) maybe more... regarding hydraulic brakes you should be careful :D at higher speeds if you so much as touch the brakes that thing is gona grip like a cat on a carpet :D it might catch you offguard and you could fall
I have near 4000km on my zero 10x with nutt brakes. I had to change brake fluid. It gets worn and diluted over time, especially during winter time, maybe thats why leaking. My didn't leak but got spongy and lost braking power. Beside brakes I changed tires to excatly the same one you are using, scooter feels more stable now but lost some top speed. Main problem is battery got bad cells and I only have about 20km of range. It's LG 24Ah. It happened a few months after warranty period. Planning to switch to this yellow beast. Chears!
wow only 20 km left ?! that must be a defective battery ! My current Km stands at 4540 km and i gained weight too and I still get 55 km of range driving with dual motors, when it was new max range was about 70 km but i was slimer back then too :D
great, thank you for that. Exactly what I needed to all this positiv blabla... real feedback. So what are the prices when replacing the brake handles incl cylinder?
Vsett charges you $200 for 2 way shipping and $50+ per 30 minutes for servicing the scooter and that's if they can even fix it. If you tell them that it is still under warranty, they will stop replying to you
That's a great video thanks. I have the same scooter, with the new display. Something weird happened recently, maybe after a small hole on the road. I loose power...then, the scoot would not accelerate anymore. Display is on, but totally locked, could not do anything. No power, but display on. Buttons not responding. I disconnected the controler cable to restart everything, and it worked again. But I'm worried. Did the scooter feel a shock and go into alarm? I have no idea. On the other hand, I find the battery level indicator very inaccurate, I never know how much battery I have left. Within a few seconds of accelerating, it drops to almost zero and starts flashing, only to return to a normal gauge at cruising speed. This inaccuracy prevents me from being at ease with the battery. Should I trust the voltage indicator instead? What is the minimum level of that indicator? Remember that I'm talking about the new display. Apart from this, great scooter!
Im looking into a Vsett 10+, can you still recommend it? Its a early model with Nutt brakes (and the seller said they are not leaking) and was undergoing a lot of tuning, mainly stronger and better parts. Is such a scooter a good deal? I would have to pay like 1500€ for a 25Ah LG battery version, including adjustable (oil) dampeners, steering dampener and a complete "redesign" to look like an IOHawk which is limited mostly to 25 km/h.
Hey :) hell yeah I would recomend it, but make sure you get the one with a new ass as mine was made out of 2 parts the black one and the yeallow one, the later models got those 2 parts made into one yellow part :) ... regarding the brakes I heard Nutt brakes ar better than the Zoom ones Im thinking of buying that for my scooter too, but make sure to use Magura oil (blue oil) it has better viscosity and will minimize the risk of leakage ... As to price a brand new one is like 2200-2600 euro so 1500 perhaps is a good price but it also depends how much he used it like I used mine for 12 500 km now ...thats a lot ... the what does it look like is it scrached a lot ? was it in some accidents ec. for 1500 euro that scooter should be in a very good condition if not then I would offer 1000-1200
Btw. If you blow another controller. To get you by. You can unhook the phase wires. The thick yellow blue and green wires to the motor that isn’t working. You’ll be running a single motor and may lose your speedometer depending on how those read speed but it will run.
My front wheel motor turns off and glitches after riding over bumps, I can't change the controller because the screws holding the plastic cap closed broke by them selves and fell off so I was forced to super glue that part closed so now I can't access the inside components. My fault for buying a Vsett
Hey. Sorry im not sure what instrument you are talking about. The battery here is 28 Ah ... the range is not reduced and is the same, but the speed is with 25 km/h limit but you can turn it off or remove it if you will :) ... so mine goes faster than 25 km/h
@@Guitarnoob99 real speed limiter is 22 km/h, for correct measurement need change P06 and P07 to 9.6 and 30 (real magnets) also not sure for 60v setting on controller, because battery indicator shows 100% until 60v, after it droping very fast, that because, imo, in misscalculations in controller. 100% charged battery is about 67V
I still think you should consider it :) Although it might look like its braking down a lot, but keep in mind that I do A LOT of milage on it with a lot of stress on the components + im like 115 kg now I think :D ... I mean there is no such thing as problem free thing everything brakes down one or another day :) even apple, F-1 or Tesla or Ferrari :D although its expensive :) .... I actually spoke to my courier collegues about realibility of different scooters and the shop where i bought mine about what is the most reliable and the answer to my surprise was Ninebot max 30 :D its cheaper, simpler and suposedly has less issues, but even that thing brakes down, but the owner of the shop also said that Vsett comes at second after ninebot. Finaly I would like to stress that this was the first production model, so the one you would get is the one with fixed bugs that the scooter showed in time, so in theory the updated Vsett 10+ will be even more reliable than the one that I have.
I almost guarantee you it’s not punctures. Tube tires on scooters are absolute junk. They soon so fast and create so much heat from running they pop. Switch to a scooter with airless tires and never go back
Hello. I think I also have a problem with the controller, only that's how I bought it, it's 3 weeks old and has 60 km. When it is on only one motor, that is the rear one, the scooter is very lazy. If I accelerate it while keeping it blocked from moving forward, the front wheel spins very strongly and the back wheel has no power to spin, it stays put...but if I get on the scooter it works, only it's slow. In short, the rear wheel is at 20% of the power of the front engine. I don't know how your rear engine is. If you raise the front wheel and accelerate only the rear engine spins at idle making a burn, or yours doesn't have the power to spin at idle either. I don't know if the rear motor really needs to pull less even though both are 1400w or if it's just like that for me. If you could leave me an answer I would be happy. Thank you very much and good luck.
I have the 8+ and mine get SOOO Loose every single week. The solution is to take each bolt off, clean off all of the oil on the threads and the inside threads, then buy a tube of Loctite Blue and put it on each screw, you will never have to tighten them again, that's what I did
On my vsett 10+ scooter within 200 km They unlock chip control stopped working. Urban machina send me a replacement, good no problem. At 700 km the rear motor stopped working, they actually paid for shipping for me to send it back to them, said they had to replace the controller. At this point I was pretty angry, I let them know that and they gave me the upgraded version, props to urban Machina they did everything in their power to make me happy. When I got the brand new scooter I didn't even take out of the box. I sold it right away. These problems should not be happening this early so I jumped ship.
I bought a mantis pro se about 6 months ago. And I’m on controller #6 currently. I’ve been able to build 3 of them from the bad ones. And I have 2 new ones left. It’s been the same issue in all but one. The rear motors transistors. That power the yellow phase wire have shorted to power. One litterally blew up another got pretty close. I have replaced litterally everything. And can’t find anyone else with the same problem. Like they blow them once a month. For This current controller I’ve sanded down the scooter where it mounts and added thermal paste I am working on adding a heat sink under it as well on the underside of the scooters body. I have also lowered my settings and turned off regen braking for the first 10% of battery charge. Thinking it’s ether heat or an over powered surge from the regen. Causing “crowbarring”. Ironically the ones I’ve built seem to last longer. Luckily I purchased from an American company Voro that until now had provided me with the replacement parts. I do think they did all they could to help resolve my issue hopefully I’m close or possibly have resolved it I have been sent my final replacement controllers though (2 dual controllers) halfway through the warrantee and no more parts will be provided but I guess I can understand as I am sure they lost a lot of money on my issues. Idk how to feel really but it could have been worse. I do love to ride it when it works though. Hopefully I’ll have the problem figured out soon. I have at least 3 chances left possibly 4 with a successful rebuild lol. So hard to not run maxed out though..but the Benefit of the dual controllers are 2 bad ones can be rewired and paired to make 1 good one.
Its a shame you have so much bad luck with your machine and im kinda glad I dont have regen function :D Vsett no matter what model as much as I know does not have it, but overall I would say its a good thing considering how often I use it. Normal people in my city ride 10x less then me so apart from the controler I only have small issues. When I have more money Ill chage into Nutt brakes cuz these stock ones are shit, not durable at all.
@@mytriggertime2610 no never actually because it does nothing to the range or has any other advantage in my oppinion, I did a test and it is the same distance + i very heavy dude so it takes a lot of power to move me :D
@@mytriggertime2610 only for the trip home when the controller fails. No i ride full speed like a madman always. I do believe i have the issue resolved. I think it was overheating. So i replced the thermal paste on the mosfets.i also sanded down the chassis where the controller mounted and added thermal paste there as well. The stock paste inside the enclosure was dry and cracking away. Possibly from over heating but idk i figured thst would be a good place to start. I plan too add a heatsink under the body also, or at least dremel in some lines right under the controller but on the outside of the chassis to act as a heatsink, you wouldnt see that part anyway. But so far its been working fine. Settings maxed and its been getting pretty warm here . I normally get about a month before it blows and thats of im careful. Im on 2 months now and its one i rebuilt from 1 that caught on fire, and another that was filled with water. Lol but ive been trying to burn it out for the last month and shes solid. I thought i blew it a couple weeks ago but it was my hook washers p. Theystripped and twisted my motor phase wires up and pretty much destroyed the harness. Locked up the motor from the wires shorting but that was an easy fix.
i think you brake hard with a full battery and then regenerative braking sends back too much volts and blows the controllers. there is no way controllers just fail that often in normal use
I'm at 2,000 miles and I think my front wheel motor is jacked up, it stops working for 5-30 seconds after going over cracks and bumps. I can't change the controller because I super glued it closed after the cheap ass screws broke them selves so there was nothing holding it closed
@@Guitarnoob99 All Vsett10+ scooters have regenerative braking. P11 setting needs to be set at zero. The reason is that continual recharging of an already fully charged battery will cause over heating and damage to the controller. It is not neccessary to engage any level of regen braking as the hydraulic disc brakes are already totally adequate. Steven Chan, the Administrator for Vsett Scooter Riders Group had similar problems with his controller which required replacement. He has since completely stopped using regen braking and has not had any further problems with his controller.
@@Guitarnoob99 regen brakes engage only when you press lightly brake levers, when cutting off motor power. I have set it on lvl3 and have prety decent braking on 25kmh+ helps when going down the hill
Great video thanks! Since I commute at least 10 kilometers a day with my scooter I will accumulate a lot of kilometers eventually so this video was very informative and useful. Still using stock tires and I just wait to get a puncture always checking tire pressure like I am obsessed but fingers crossed they'll last 😁 It's bad to hear about the controller but fingers crossed it won't fail for me any time soon. The shocks will probably fade and maybe become softer but that will give me a reason to upgrade the shocks anyway.
@@escobar1656 I am at around 3500km after a year in a month or so and I have on average driven six out of seven days a week in this period. I have driven in basically all types of weather everything from thunderstorm or snow storm with 5-10cm snow on the road to dry and sunny days. Also the dual drive when riding in snow was really a breaker or life saver I mean using single drive made the scooter going nowhere or the scooter sliding all over the place no grip at all but with dual drive it was like having 4x4 on a car great stability and grip. Anyway I haven't had any issues whatsoever thinking either mechanical or electrical despite riding in rain and snow many times. Only done the usual tweaks like silicone different places where water might creep in. So for me the scioter is pretty waterproof even if some might argue the opposite. The only issue have had is punctures but I guess that is somewhat expected with these scooters so I call it a non-issue it's just boring and annoying to change the tubes. But at least it's easy and it's done in an hour or so. So I am really happy with it and it has far surpassed my expectations. Hope this answers you question but if you wonder anything more it's just to ask. 😉😀
@sebulbathx the salesaman warned me about the tires. I think i will get the semi off road ones Any brake issues? I noticed the rotors sometimes warp a tiny bit after use. Amped up the regen brake for that reason
@@WorivpuqloDMoghThe stock tyres are really bad in every aspect. Even the grip on smooth asphalt us horrible even compared to offroad tyres. If I knew better I would have changed earlier. Not too expensive mod but can save you a lot of hassle in punctures. From everything I read do not use regen if you want your controller to function for longer time. The regen the higher setting it will overheat the controller. I haven't had any brake issues beside a small leak of brake fluid around the caliper which isn't really an issue. Just that I have to refill the brake fluid every other month. And no warping if the discs but that can happen with any disc if abused anyway. Also that is a relative inexpensive mod too if you want a step up from stock. Anymore questions just ask. I have soon around 5000km on mine so I guess I have somewhat longterm experience. 🙂
Hello Tomas... i spoted your channel today and i like it... i have Vsett 10+ 25.6Ah from avgust 2021 with 1300km and i must say a had problems with controler in first week(front motor died) but then they replaced it at the service station and unlocked it ... after removing the electronic limit at 25km / h (white wire on the controller) it never happened again... I bought four tyres: 2 wider street and 2 offroad tyres(not good tyres in my oppinion) but now i ordered 255/80 like you have them... hope that will be better... And this is interesting... my friend has Vsett 10+ scooter but he bought it in February 2022 ... the controller died twice in one month... he didn't want to remove the restriction (he was afraid of the police)... he removed the restriction three weeks ago and everything has been ok since then... Stay healthy and many safe km... Greetings from Slovenia(EU)
holy shit controler died twice o_O ! thats crazy and must be very frustrating :( well at least we have warranty :D im a bit worried what will happen when the warranty ends xD cuz the controler is quite expencive + service costs. Lets hope it holds. Also did you notice how expencive the tube is for these scooters ? at least in Lithuanian one tube is like 10 euro :( ....a much bigger tube for my bycicle is like 3 euro. Rock on Slovenia ! ^_^ hand shake from Lithuania :D
@@Guitarnoob99 yea it's frustrating but like you said at least we have warranty... yea i notice how expensive they are... one tube for scooter in Slovenia is 15eur and one tyre is 35eur :/ so i ordered tyres 255/80 and tubes from Aliexpress for 55eur(both tyres with tubes) and is like 45eur cheaper than in Slovenia... hand shake back my brother :D
I am curious about wider street tires. Where can I find them or what is the name for them? Interesting about the speed limiter. If it might be the limiter that for some reason makes the controller fail then maybe I don't have to worry about that much since I don't have the limiter on my scooter. If your buddy hasn't have any more problems since he removed the limiter that is.🙂
@@sebulbathx i looked on aliexpress for 90/65-6 tyre that is 270mm in diameter and 100mm wide(original tyre 80/65-6 is 250mm in diameter and 80mm wide) but i dont know if that wider tyre will fit because i have 160mm freefloat disk mounted... maybe will fit on original 145mm disk... My buddy has no problem so maybe there is problem with that speed limiter and controller...
@@sebulbathx i think its called touvt semi off road tire. I bought it in LT shop so not much help to ya in that sence, but im sure you can find that on ebay, amazon or your local el.scooter shop :)
I woul buy a neew stem or the stem base or even both if needed. Its metal dude...once its damaged you cant restore it to be perfect. www.rideandglide.co.uk/product/vsett-stem-base-clamp/ also its not that expencive :)
Yeah unfortunetly I have to, because those handle incorporate a turn signal button and at least when I last checked there are only handles without that so id be giving up my turning signals. Considering that I driv along with the cars sometimes the turning signal is a must for me. But yeah I wish I could buy something with leather :(
@@mornaistar oh yeah sorry i missunderstood :DDDD yes I was actually thinking of changing that handlebar :D its starting to be annoyng when I feel it wigling a bit :D
Hey Bro, nice video & thx for sharing those things, for the flat tires I use the blue band into the tire & slime, it’s very useful! Regards from Colombia
Interesting! I'm about to buy the Vsett 10+. Seems like this scooter was worth it to you? Looks like this scooter can last a LONG time as long as you take care of it.
I would say deff, yes. In retrospective I think its a good idea to change into a diff. hydraulic brake sett like shymano or Nutt, change some screws to a better quality ones, tire change is a must aswell to avoid punctures ... otherwise its a great sterdy scooter that will last a long time for a simple user cuz I do food delivery job with it so it is beeing used daily 30-60 km
@@Guitarnoob99 Oh wow! Thanks for the reply! I agree with you from what I saw. Where did you buy your tires from?! I'm going to buy spares just in case. Also where did you buy a new controller from? Are the tires and controller easily replaceable or were they hard to change?
@@wombat5252 since im based in Lithuania I buy my stuff at that vsett dealer, but iv seen same tires on aliexpress too :) its called Touvt semi offroad tires. The controler is something i did not buy but it was changed for free because of waranty :)
Yes its perfect scooter compared to others. Great design, sturdy parts.. except maybe handlebar (changeable), tires (changeable), try go get with Nutt brakes if possible. Im not realy happy with folding hook, but acceptable even if it does not have fix in folded state
@@milordas I just got mine in last week. I totally agree with you - Everything is great except the stupid folding handle bar. I will be changing that. Mine came with the disk brakes and they seem to work well. Maybe I should buy the nutt brakes?
Hmm well it looks similar, but its somewhat cheaper....you know one reason I would not buy Mantis is because of its stem lock, looks like any other scooter with those clams, I bet after some time you will get some sort of wiggle :) ...one of the main reasons I bought Vsett was because it has that super clamp :)
Labas :) pirkau Riedis.lt ..... daugiau problemu nera, jei kazkas islys iskarto sukursiu nauja video :) arteju prie 4000 km ribos tai paziuresim kaip ten bus :D
problema kinietiskuose varztuose.. kurie kaip sake yra per minksto metalo, o ir atsukti juos kebloka. Visu pirma jie "priklijuoti" o antra, kai kurie turi viduje "spygli", kuriam reikia specialaus rakto
Me to, I have the 8+ and every piece has its own problems. Broken screws, stripped screws, missing screws that fell off because they do not put loctite on the screws so they get soooooo loose. I mean I would tighten the screws and a week later, they would be loose enough to spin with my pinky. My left break is completely jammed up. The front wheel motor stops working after riding over cracks. Some screws were put on so tight at the factory that they will never be taken out. The cheap ass included tool got mangled up on its own after trying to tighten the breaks. Also they told me I have to pay $100 to ship it to them, $100 for them to ship it back, and $50+ an hour for them to service my scooter for problems that were caused by the scooter itself. Also I told them it was still under warranty and they stopped replying to me
I thought what kills it is running 2 motors at hard acceleration rate cause that makes the controller push it's maximum amp draw. can't say much about regen breaking cause I don't know.
@@RESISTAGE nah it doesent if u use one motor it usualy overheats that motor and it shuts down and in the end it uses up more battery than with two dual motors turned on u shoud be using dual motor all the time and no regen and that maximises the controllers life and the life of motors
@LOST ANARCHIST I don't have the vset10+ anymore, it was stolen from the boot of my car lol, sad times, but I now ride the Yugen G4 Pro which is a kind of vset10+ knock off but better in all regards... sturdy handle bars, more power, wider deck. Led lights and off road tyres as standard.. the error code 10 was a faulty battery pack which had corroded wires
I got a vsett 10 plus 3k+ miles and got like 5-6 months with it and battery just died. Out the blue. I used it the night before totally fine a long ride to 10 miles there’s and back and charged it the next day and it was dead. No idea lucky I still got warranty and new battery has separate warranty
@@Guitarnoob99 when you charge yours where is it fully charged my 1st battery sometimes would flicker between 67.1,67.2 den drops to 67 66.9 this new battery too I just got it today
If we are speaking of that scooter shop that I bought it from they are extremely helpful :) but sometimes it takes time to get response from them and like the last time I showed them my leaky brake handles and for some reason it was not taken under warranty so im still driving like that. I did not deal with Vsett directly ofc :) its always scooter shops responsibility
I bought mine from Rev Rides. If you scooter is under warranty, they will tell you to go to a hardware store and ask for parts. They will go back and forth with you trying to get you to do anything but have them send you a new piece for free until they inevitably stop replying like they did to me twice. If your warranty ended, then they will be happy to charge you $200 for 2 way shipping and charge you a mystery fee of $50+ per 30 minutes of service. That's what they told me. I told them my scooter is still under warranty and they stopped replying and it's been over a week
Did you drove it in single motor mode verry often? or did you had habit to change dual/single motor mode while driving? Or switching on sport mode while driving? People say those things cause controller burning?
0:09 I totally agree about this type of tyre. The stock ones on my 9+ are junk. Badly manufactured and out of round to the point of being unusable and had to be replaced under warranty. Same story with a later replacement of the same brand. How are they producing such horrible tyres?
hello brother... If you want reliable tires buy yourself 255/80 TUOVT tyre... they are very good for road and offroad and they are not badly manufactured... i have them and have no problem
@@BlastedFreak82 yeah my 10+R came with Touvt’s preinstalled. My shop Revrides inspects and improves all ordered scooters (like those tires, or fixing known issues from factory) before sending them out.
Maaaate, I've had the saaame issues and I too have changed to those 50/50 off road tyres... I've had over 6 punctured tyres... the slicks are absolutely diabolical. But the offroad tyres have slowed me down by like 10mph in both single and twin motor mode... the build quality DOSE NOT!! stand the test of time! I've changed the handle bars THREE times! They're crap and have a ridiculous design flaw! So now I'm using mountain bike handlebars! I wish all those vset10 reviews that sing it's praises did an ACTUAL review... Because yes its fast, and yes its the best looking! But the sacrifices you have to make in order to keep it working! Wow... P.s I have A LOT more to add to the equation... thinking to do a review myself, starting all the problems this scooter has
Haha there there :D all good mate let it all out ... Well I know one thing that nothing lasts for ever :P so I would not give vsett too much crap :D ... although it has some problems it also has other things that are awsome like a rigid stem locking mechanism :) that other scooters just dont have and for me it was important not to have that where you need spacers and of other mesures to make it stop wobling :D orrrrr the fact that most scooters dont have any part where you can lock it to a pole or something... most are very unpraktical
@@Guitarnoob99 lol yes there are some good things about this scooter, but I don't feel the need to fluff these things up, as every single review I watched prior to purchasing, firmly had the 10+'s nuttsacc in their month's... it could do no wrong... and for 5 pounds short of 2000 quid, I kind of expect perfection. As for the rigid stem, no. I'd have to disagree, mine has already started creaking and cracking, the scooter makes loud bangs when it travels over uneven terrain.... (probably needs new shocks) and the actual locking system! To carry it!! Is an abbbsolute or Dosen't stay locked and constantly keeps cooking off! The headlights are inadequate too! The indicators are non noticeable when the lights are on, and the horn, wow this thing is an absolute complete waste of time! It's absolutely shite! A mouse wouldn't hear that in quiet room, let alone a pedestrian walking down a street with noise pollution in the air... so I've fitted a ding ding type of bell to the handlebars because yet again, vsett failed there.
really ? :) well I considered OXO but I went with this Vsett 10+ instead :) ... the 2 main problems of OXO are the rear plastic footrest that breaks off or shaters and the most annoying problem of all is the shit stearing columb locking mechanism that over time becomes wobly and flimsy :) just like the rest of scooters like Xiaomi ec. ... No scooter is problem free not even Inokim. It has its own flaws, not to mention the suspention is harder, it has less power and less range :) so I would not give so much credit to Inokim if I was you
I have both the oxo and this vsett. My oxo came with a bent back rotor and the throttle died after 200 miles so trust me they can have issues too. These have a lot of moving parts they’re prone to failure
My 8+ got soooooo loose that it started falling apart. The way to fix this is take each screw off and clean the screw and the inside threads and then apply blue loctite, then put the screws back on and hope to God the cheap ass Vsett screws don't get stripped and the heads don't break off. I have 3 broken screws, 2 stripped screws, and the back reflector got so loose it fell off on day 1
Sup Tomas after a long time bro i have been watching you for time i have ssme problem with (pushings) i just dont know where to get spare ones cause everything i put between there is not good 😅 and i have over 3.5k..It is my 4rd scooter so far i love the vsett !!❤️ please tell me or link me where i could get some if you figured it out so far lmao
fluid comes out becouse of low quality oil or oil ring. The same happends with all Ultron scooters. If u want a good ones try Goodtaste GT03 , these same brakes are with name: XOD XD-D700 and NFOX B015. These Comes On Hiley Tiger 10 scooter. No issues after 6500km on my brothers scooter and from what I see in my day job (scooter repair shop) - these brakes has no complain issues with other scooters where these brakes are on. You dont need shimano or Nutts. (Also Hiley Tiger 10 is better as vsett 10 vesions. I have driven both and lots of 60v scoots. Tiger 10 is unbeatable in parameter/quality/price).
well we can not be sure about the quality of this thing as it is fairly new, so I would not say great quality about something that has not been tested properly for at least 5000km ... As for the thing it self iv seen it when it was advertised some time ago and I think it is one of the best looking scooters out there at least for my taste of design, BUT thats about the only thing I like about it. I think its way overpriced for what it delivers...it does not have the range or the power even as Vsett 10+ does. I am waiting for TEVERUN BLADE MINI PRO now this is a promissing product and from what I have heard it fairly priced and you get a lot for your money.
I think you should still consider it :) + this was the first of first models so I bet you the new models are of better quality and main bugs fixed, Like I know for a fact there are different motors anf NUTT brakes on the newer ones. Then again there is nothing that is super duper quality :) stuff wares and brakes. My friend has Inokim OXO and it has issues of its own so nothing is issue free its just all about what kind of issues you will be getting.
Since I see you are from Lithuania. Kokia nuomone del parlamento sprendimo, kuris galimai isigalios liepos 1 diena, paspirtukai bus legalus tik iki 500W ir 20 km/h greicio, viskas kas virsis siuos parametrus bus nelegalu, ir galima naudoti tik "privacioje valdoje, savam kieme".
man tai nerupi istiesu :) vistiek vazinesiu. Dabar ir taip pareigunu truksta tai ka jie tipo skirs pareigunus stabdyti kiekviena scooteri ? kazkaip abejoju. Cia toks pats tuscias istatymas kaip ir nulipti nuo dviracio ir vestis ji per pereja :D ar kazkas taip daro ? na kokie 2 is 10 tai nezinau nesidomejau ar cia sita susni istatymu jau prieme, nes kiek girdejau tik svarstys, bet jei priims tai niekas ju nesilaikys garantuotai
@@Guitarnoob99 na tai nenaujiena, ypac ziurint i UK ar Germany, kur toks pat limitas, ir pastoviai yra reidai, ar tiesiog random sustabdymai su baudomis, PEV konfiskavimu ir net baudos taskais ant vairuotojo pazymejimo.
Debiliski istatymai, nieko kito nepasakyciau. Arba galimai bandoma priartinti prie EU direktyvu. As pvz su 500w i kalna turbut net neuzvaziuociau (ten kur reikia)... Su VSETT 10+ tenka net antra varikli isijungti, kad bent stabiliai 22kmh (originalus limitas dar stovi) uzvaziuotu. Realiai pagalvojus tai koks jiems (istatymu leidejams) skirtumas koks ten variklio galingumas, saugumo prasme uztektu kad nieks nevazinetu daugiau 20-25 kmh ir visi kelyje bus saugus. Tiksliau dviraciu takuose ar saligatviuose. As asmeniskai gatvemis nesiruosiu vazineti, ne savizudis, nebent tai gatveles, kur vienas auto per 10 min pravaziuoja
yeah nooooo not gona do that ... dont want to sacrifice comfort for conveniance :) its not that complicated to change the tube like it is on Ninebot or Xiaomi scooters.
@@Guitarnoob99 but if ur a heavier rider like urself ur more prone to flats Plus that back tire is where most all people get there flats at because of all the weight is mostly there u have to ride on high psi or u will get pinch flats as well on ur tires and ur back shock has to b on a harder tension because of ur weight or u will get alot of bad things happening to u
@@popsiclestick8405 I rode my thing for over 7000 km and the tires never failed for no reason either I would punkture them on contact with glass and such or there was once a shit tire batch from Touvt company...had some tire thread poping out punkturing the tube... I think I made a video about that so I got my self the semi offroad tires and they served me well ever since :) + they actually made the ride more comfortable as there is more rubber on them, but yeah thanks for the tip I will regulate the rear shock for more stiffness :) .... I honestly think solid tire is not the way to go, I mean the ride is not the softest as it is now and with solid ones its gona be even worse feedback with a lot more vibrations witch is going to ruine comfort and probably the durability of other parts that will for sure take on more vibrations and will fail.
Hydraulic brakes are over rated. Having cycled over 25k miles without an accident in my lifetime. I only used rim brake pads going 60+ mph down a mountain to city riding. Anticipate your stop, give a lot of room and go slower in a busy environment such as city streets or ubran areas with people. You'll get there. Too many times people are in a hurry and that's when you get into trouble. Still riding rim brakes.
That is not a big deal breaks I hawe Shimano xt if they are not properly blodyd they will start too leak that fluid Is chep yus giw it ti MTB mechanics to clean them and put new oile. And brings are material wich changes after feu tausands km. And I think same with bushings. And lot more betings haw Bikes full susp and ewry thing is much cuayater . I have also bought Vsett before 2 weaks on black Friday I haw a good deal and I didn't even knew that tech go so crazy for electric scooter I always sen litle stem with litle handlebar and no suspension and I seen Vsett , for comuting and 5/10km rides in one are I can drive it for 8 to 9months of beutiful weather. And it can cross 50km + with one charge but . Also its much more fun thet I toth.
I have the 8+ and I know everything ther is to know about screws and bolts and tools, I even work at Home Depot, and when I tell you Vsett screws are cheap AF, THEY ARE CHEAP AF. I have the 8+ and I try to loosen a screw as carefully as possible and it just strips. I have screws inside the scooter that snapped in half by them selves. Even if you don't strip the screws, you can see that they get bent and mangled a little bit every time you loose or tighten them. I've also head screw heads break off. Also there are tons of other people who have the same problem with stripped and jacked up screws. The included tool is a piece of gourmet garbage as well. I tried to unscrew a screw on the Handel bars and the tool got sooo twisted and mangled up. It looks like a spaghetti noodle
do not drive to Ukraine (possible multiple punctures on russian tanks remains) and it would be ok :) i just replaced stock air intake caps on my tires with metal ones
You buy a scooter ? Be prepared to maintain it like any machine . You ride it hard ? Then you'll have problems and more maintainance like any machine ...
Those stoopid controllers. It should be made to be capable of working at least 20,000+ km without problems, these scooters are as expensive as some 15 years old cars which are driven 500,000km and can hold on still driving them for tens of thousands of kilometers, and those scooters are brand new having problems before 5k kms is just disgusting. Is it that hard to put some good capable of high voltage controller + 2 high quality motors, solid construction, suspension and wheel construction... Always will be the chinese trash builds. If germans or japans start doing electric scooters they will be much more solid.
Yeah I was thinking the same. I soke to the shop owner about this and he said that chinese do not like critisism lol :D ... another thing worth mentioning that in China these things are very cheap, and the manufacturer is saving money everywhere where they can. So getting back about the price and the reason it is so expencive is because all the import and tax implemented by EU and local countries so VAT for my country is 21% + fuck knows how much it is for import + shipping so yes as it is, its very expencive and even if they did spend more money on making these better I wonder if people would pay more to get better :) ... I payed 2300 euro for mine, but I doubt I would pay more as I could buy a car or a premium 125cc scooter for 3000-4000 euro ....another question is why would you buy a beast like this in the first place ? I bought it just because I do food deliveries and I need big battery + strong enough motors to pull my ass...if it wasnt for the job I think I woud be riding something like Ninebot g30 MAX ... cheap and more reliable.
@@Guitarnoob99 I ride vsett 8 15.6Ah one motor, totally enough for me. Almost every time I take it back home with up to 30-40% battery left. It's now on 4000 km without changing anything but the rear tire once. What I want is to be able to go up to 45-50 km/h while going up of 5%-10% hills but with vsett 8 im going with up to 35-38 km/h which is not enough i need a lil bit more. I hate cars that need to overtake me I feel better while they just decide that I am fast enough and they stay behind me instead of overtaking me and driving close to me while doing that. In terms of this I think for my needs I need something 2x1000w with 23 A but what I really want if I pay 1500-2000 euro is to be perfect solid electric scooter not a shitt that will make problems on first 3-4k kms. If it's like that, it is better for me to go just for some 50cc scooter or even a car lol.
Its not :) cheap... the shop where i bought it said the only better quality scooter that brakes down less often is Ninebot Max 30 and Vsett scooters have the second least problems so dont take my info im giving out of contecst :) + keep in mind that I use it for food deliveries and do up to 50-60KM daily wit heavy loads so it is to be expected to brake down more often. Show me a scooter that does not have a single issue after heavy use :) I dont think there is one, everything brakes eventually, so this video is only meant to show what could fail in time rather than to say that its not worth the money :)
@@Guitarnoob99 I don't mean price I mean quality of the scooter because I have electric scooters for years and i never had a crack or controller failure only tire failure but if u get motor, controller or frame failure that's a sign it's not a good scooter meaning it's not made well or manufactured well
@@Guitarnoob99 I bought a 160€ 2021 Scooter in 2023. Just an average low budget offroad scooter, 1000W single motor (45 km/h) and super small battery (48V 10Ah, very much abused) It had in beginning 2023 around 2800 km on it, i was driving since then nearly 7000 km on it WITHOUT ANY FAILURE. Sure enough small things... the front suspensions nut on the top got loose a bit.... tightened it. Also, the folding mechanism (one of the worst you can imagine...) needed often a readjustment after much offroading or heavy bumps i did not see. But nothing extraordinary! Now, after about 7000 km the first real issue i encountered... the already damaged/bent front suspension goes crazy and the front tire sheers sometimes on the suspension forks top, might too much weight and stress on the spring, might the bent parts bended even more and so its rubbing against it sometimes. Nevermind, i bought this scooter to "break" it, before i look into a proper, much better scooter All i know, for me it took about 7000 km, much offroad, fast charging a lot etc and it still runs! Yes, the battery is on its last leg (8-15 km range), the motor got that often hot/overheated it lost reasonable amount of torque and a bit top speed, most moving parts make bad sounds already despite lubing them, since some days also the wheel bearings make squeaky noises, but thats expected after the tortoure this scooter had with me!
Okay first of all don't buy from these companies anymore if they're using cheap parts and parts are breaking that is a definite sign that that company is not reliable especially on quality control, most of these companies do not care, especially if you're going 45 mph even you need something reliable this is why I've always stuck with dualtron mini motors scooters super high quality Little bit more money but completely, worth it they come very well packed, lots of aftermarket parts to make it your scooter, and you got to love a company that always answers their phone no excuse super reliable John and Chris some of the nicest people in the world up in San Francisco headquarters saving up for my thunder 3 can't wait
You know the Bluetran Lightning? Its a Minimotors/Dualtron and by far one of the most dangerous scooters regarding to its quality, mainly the front and rear suspension loves to break apart and send you to the asphalt face forward!
After riding Vsett 8 and Vsett 10+ I must say that there are one of most cuality scooters on the market for the price with 8 newer problem it is City beast. And with 10+ no one woble riding hige speads 60+ kmh and no stem moving its solid and good scooters. I love them.
VERY Informative - thank you
I plan on upgrading to air springs on my Blade X and having pivot construction the same as all other scooters, using cheap metal bushings, I plan to use a very pricey grease used for my mtb. Finishline pure fleuro, basically teflon grease. By using it you essentially lube for life.
where did you get the tires? can you drop the link? Shouldn't it be 10x3?
It's been 500km. the yellow handles on the handlebars keep coming loose
thanx
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On a scooter that expensive there shouldn't be low quality anything. And the controller certainly shouldn't be burning out that early.
You say " that expensive " but overall its an A performing scooter at the B+ price range. There are scooters out there almost twice as expensive as the 10+. This guy has also had his for like 2 years now with near daily usage as a delivery driver. So his 10+ must have been one of their first ones so can't say for sure if the screws thing is still a thing in 2022 with the different variants available today.
I had a Fieabor Q08p ($1400 scooter) and the controller burnt out under a hundred miles
That is not expensive lmao
@@schism6976 it's expensive. i literally rode over 35 000 km on a regular bicycle that cost 100 euro from a friend and 100 euro maintenance. tell me what fucking scooter will do 35k kilometers without paying thousands of dollars? the price per km driven is absolutely insane
@@sdfefde haha you compare bike (15kmh) with scooters (50kmh). Average speeds not comparable. Also fuel consumption: electrics are so much cheaper than human work. Human time and food cost much.
I would like to know the kind of environment you mostly ride , is it city streets you ride or dirt trails? And what is your weight as I am 215 pounds and makes me wonder how well this would last.
Its only in the city :) that i ride, so no sand or trail or anything like that. I weigh 254 pounds
hey mate! when did you buy your scoot? im seeing some are shipped with nutt/zoom brakes now??? have you read or seen any of this??? and also thats ashame witht he tires. idk i might just get a vsett9+ with the biggest battery possible and call it a day, im already out of my budget going for the 10+ i also only weigh around 58kg so im sure the 9+R would rip me anyway. Also im coming from a gotrax G4 thats 350w single motor..... but i also ride a cr250 that i cant even touch the ground on and i absolutely send on it hahaha. lookling for some excitement when i get a chance to open the scooter up you know??? if u can answer me any input would be cool. also hows your twist bolt on the nexk??? do u fold the scoot often? or leave it up? ive heard the bolt that holds the clamp in can strip over time.
yo yo :) I bought it 2021 august i think or maybe October something like that :D ... Yes I noticed that too and some even have different motors, they probably changed to Nutt brakes because those stock ones were getting issues like I have right now. Yeah I think for you 9+ should be a great buy just make sure to make your research on what the issues are as 9+ is slightly worse quality, but with that weight you have it should suite you. On the other hand think of it this way if you can buy the best you can and enjoy it to the max especially if you plan to keep it for a long time isn't it better to save up a bit more and go for the premium one like 10+ ? :) otherwise you might not like 9+ acceleration or something else and then you will feel regret that you should have saved up a bit more and gotten that other one :) well at least test both to see which one you like more. I can tell you once you try 10+ its not going to disappoint :D ... regarding the bolt I mainly have it fixed at all times...I folded my scoot only 3 times :D but 99% of the time it is on fixed position. I have to heard or seen any issues with folding mechanism, but even after 3600 km it is not moving at all it is as stirdy as it was from day one :)
@@Guitarnoob99 awesome response dude i appreciate it so much. and yeah i dont want buyers remorse after getting the 9+ and being like wow i wish i had some more power here and there- cause really in the end its only a few hundred more and as u said the quality is better- just the fact the 10+ has hydraulic brakes and 10" wheels is almost worth 200$ more, nevermind the power and such. my thing though is im either going to have to get the 10+ with the 20.8ah battery (smallest config at $1890) or the 9+ with the largest battery 21.6ah ($1625)
my question now for u to me i guess is, knowing that i only weigh like 130lbs or so haha do you think the 20.8ah battery on the 10+ (assuming im not ripping 30+ ALL the time, i will be around 18-25 though alot id say, and i plan to adjust P settings to make the scooter slightly less insane so i can be in dual motor on level 1-2-3 and not die or burn battery like hell)
do u think with teh basic 20.8ah config on the 10+ for $1890 that i would get a decent range out of it? i know its really hard to say with weather and all that but- all of the reveiws i see whether its with 20.8ah or the 28ah battery everyones so heavy and really doesnt drive it normaly for their "range tests" often.
idk if i can get over 30 miles range going between 15-30 most of the time, and occasionally MAYBE slighly faster, then i would be super happy with the 1890 price tag. i KNOW i can get that out of the v9+ but idk. i really wanna make the right choice here. also too the vsett9+ compared to the 10+ the hydraulic brakes are huge for me coming from fairly heavy mtb backround and such. i know at speeds you want those. 9+ has none :L
@@TheRealElectricOutdoors yeah deff go for 10+ if you can affor it :) ... the range well my guess is that the smalles battery could give you 40km of range easy, I can also say when I was testing my thing there was no difference in the range wether I used single or dual motors wich is weird, so just keep going on DDM and you should get 40 km :) maybe more... regarding hydraulic brakes you should be careful :D at higher speeds if you so much as touch the brakes that thing is gona grip like a cat on a carpet :D it might catch you offguard and you could fall
Ensure either the 9+ or 10+ don't have Hola tyres. Change to Tuvout or PMT.
@@Guitarnoob99 ended up with a dualdron minimotors futecher gun used foir 650$ lmao. it goes like 33mph and i love it
Thanks for the info. I have yet to experience any problems such as yours.
Buckle up. It's gonna be a long and painful ride...
I have near 4000km on my zero 10x with nutt brakes. I had to change brake fluid. It gets worn and diluted over time, especially during winter time, maybe thats why leaking. My didn't leak but got spongy and lost braking power. Beside brakes I changed tires to excatly the same one you are using, scooter feels more stable now but lost some top speed.
Main problem is battery got bad cells and I only have about 20km of range. It's LG 24Ah. It happened a few months after warranty period. Planning to switch to this yellow beast. Chears!
wow only 20 km left ?! that must be a defective battery ! My current Km stands at 4540 km and i gained weight too and I still get 55 km of range driving with dual motors, when it was new max range was about 70 km but i was slimer back then too :D
great, thank you for that. Exactly what I needed to all this positiv blabla... real feedback. So what are the prices when replacing the brake handles incl cylinder?
Vsett charges you $200 for 2 way shipping and $50+ per 30 minutes for servicing the scooter and that's if they can even fix it. If you tell them that it is still under warranty, they will stop replying to you
That's a great video thanks. I have the same scooter, with the new display. Something weird happened recently, maybe after a small hole on the road. I loose power...then, the scoot would not accelerate anymore. Display is on, but totally locked, could not do anything. No power, but display on. Buttons not responding. I disconnected the controler cable to restart everything, and it worked again. But I'm worried. Did the scooter feel a shock and go into alarm? I have no idea. On the other hand, I find the battery level indicator very inaccurate, I never know how much battery I have left. Within a few seconds of accelerating, it drops to almost zero and starts flashing, only to return to a normal gauge at cruising speed. This inaccuracy prevents me from being at ease with the battery. Should I trust the voltage indicator instead? What is the minimum level of that indicator? Remember that I'm talking about the new display. Apart from this, great scooter!
Im looking into a Vsett 10+, can you still recommend it? Its a early model with Nutt brakes (and the seller said they are not leaking) and was undergoing a lot of tuning, mainly stronger and better parts.
Is such a scooter a good deal? I would have to pay like 1500€ for a 25Ah LG battery version, including adjustable (oil) dampeners, steering dampener and a complete "redesign" to look like an IOHawk which is limited mostly to 25 km/h.
Hey :) hell yeah I would recomend it, but make sure you get the one with a new ass as mine was made out of 2 parts the black one and the yeallow one, the later models got those 2 parts made into one yellow part :) ... regarding the brakes I heard Nutt brakes ar better than the Zoom ones Im thinking of buying that for my scooter too, but make sure to use Magura oil (blue oil) it has better viscosity and will minimize the risk of leakage ... As to price a brand new one is like 2200-2600 euro so 1500 perhaps is a good price but it also depends how much he used it like I used mine for 12 500 km now ...thats a lot ... the what does it look like is it scrached a lot ? was it in some accidents ec. for 1500 euro that scooter should be in a very good condition if not then I would offer 1000-1200
Btw. If you blow another controller. To get you by. You can unhook the phase wires. The thick yellow blue and green wires to the motor that isn’t working. You’ll be running a single motor and may lose your speedometer depending on how those read speed but it will run.
hmmm ok thanks for the tip :) that would be a temporary solution ofc :)
My front wheel motor turns off and glitches after riding over bumps, I can't change the controller because the screws holding the plastic cap closed broke by them selves and fell off so I was forced to super glue that part closed so now I can't access the inside components. My fault for buying a Vsett
What's the instrumental called in the background and what battery size is this and has the range and speed reduced or is it the same
Hey. Sorry im not sure what instrument you are talking about. The battery here is 28 Ah ... the range is not reduced and is the same, but the speed is with 25 km/h limit but you can turn it off or remove it if you will :) ... so mine goes faster than 25 km/h
@@Guitarnoob99 how much range do u get and the music best u put on in the background
@@soffianfar1d559 to the last breath it will do 70 km
@@Guitarnoob99 real speed limiter is 22 km/h, for correct measurement need change P06 and P07 to 9.6 and 30 (real magnets) also not sure for 60v setting on controller, because battery indicator shows 100% until 60v, after it droping very fast, that because, imo, in misscalculations in controller. 100% charged battery is about 67V
After watching your detailed video I am reconsidering getting this expensive scooter. Hello from San Francisco!
I still think you should consider it :) Although it might look like its braking down a lot, but keep in mind that I do A LOT of milage on it with a lot of stress on the components + im like 115 kg now I think :D ... I mean there is no such thing as problem free thing everything brakes down one or another day :) even apple, F-1 or Tesla or Ferrari :D although its expensive :) .... I actually spoke to my courier collegues about realibility of different scooters and the shop where i bought mine about what is the most reliable and the answer to my surprise was Ninebot max 30 :D its cheaper, simpler and suposedly has less issues, but even that thing brakes down, but the owner of the shop also said that Vsett comes at second after ninebot. Finaly I would like to stress that this was the first production model, so the one you would get is the one with fixed bugs that the scooter showed in time, so in theory the updated Vsett 10+ will be even more reliable than the one that I have.
Don't buy a Vsett. I regret buying mine. They cut every corner possible
@Thomas Hi bro, i'm french i didn't understand everything, you changed the controller, what happened please?
I’m having all the same issues except for the control issues I replaced the tires like you did but im still having puncher issues.
I almost guarantee you it’s not punctures. Tube tires on scooters are absolute junk. They soon so fast and create so much heat from running they pop. Switch to a scooter with airless tires and never go back
Hello. I think I also have a problem with the controller, only that's how I bought it, it's 3 weeks old and has 60 km. When it is on only one motor, that is the rear one, the scooter is very lazy. If I accelerate it while keeping it blocked from moving forward, the front wheel spins very strongly and the back wheel has no power to spin, it stays put...but if I get on the scooter it works, only it's slow. In short, the rear wheel is at 20% of the power of the front engine. I don't know how your rear engine is. If you raise the front wheel and accelerate only the rear engine spins at idle making a burn, or yours doesn't have the power to spin at idle either. I don't know if the rear motor really needs to pull less even though both are 1400w or if it's just like that for me. If you could leave me an answer I would be happy. Thank you very much and good luck.
What’s the size of those fender screws looking to change mine thanks
wich ones ? there are 2 kind the one that screws to the arm and the one that screws to the fender.
@@Guitarnoob99 I think the ones that screw to the yellow arms the one u pointed out in the video
How often do you tighten your bolts/screws?
Rarely to be honest, I did it like 3 times for good mesures in 1.5 years of ownership
I have the 8+ and mine get SOOO Loose every single week. The solution is to take each bolt off, clean off all of the oil on the threads and the inside threads, then buy a tube of Loctite Blue and put it on each screw, you will never have to tighten them again, that's what I did
On my vsett 10+ scooter within 200 km They unlock chip control stopped working. Urban machina send me a replacement, good no problem. At 700 km the rear motor stopped working, they actually paid for shipping for me to send it back to them, said they had to replace the controller.
At this point I was pretty angry, I let them know that and they gave me the upgraded version, props to urban Machina they did everything in their power to make me happy.
When I got the brand new scooter I didn't even take out of the box. I sold it right away.
These problems should not be happening this early so I jumped ship.
I bought a mantis pro se about 6 months ago. And I’m on controller #6 currently. I’ve been able to build 3 of them from the bad ones. And I have 2 new ones left. It’s been the same issue in all but one. The rear motors transistors. That power the yellow phase wire have shorted to power. One litterally blew up another got pretty close. I have replaced litterally everything. And can’t find anyone else with the same problem. Like they blow them once a month. For This current controller I’ve sanded down the scooter where it mounts and added thermal paste I am working on adding a heat sink under it as well on the underside of the scooters body. I have also lowered my settings and turned off regen braking for the first 10% of battery charge. Thinking it’s ether heat or an over powered surge from the regen. Causing “crowbarring”. Ironically the ones I’ve built seem to last longer. Luckily I purchased from an American company Voro that until now had provided me with the replacement parts. I do think they did all they could to help resolve my issue hopefully I’m close or possibly have resolved it I have been sent my final replacement controllers though (2 dual controllers) halfway through the warrantee and no more parts will be provided but I guess I can understand as I am sure they lost a lot of money on my issues. Idk how to feel really but it could have been worse. I do love to ride it when it works though. Hopefully I’ll have the problem figured out soon. I have at least 3 chances left possibly 4 with a successful rebuild lol. So hard to not run maxed out though..but the Benefit of the dual controllers are 2 bad ones can be rewired and paired to make 1 good one.
Its a shame you have so much bad luck with your machine and im kinda glad I dont have regen function :D Vsett no matter what model as much as I know does not have it, but overall I would say its a good thing considering how often I use it. Normal people in my city ride 10x less then me so apart from the controler I only have small issues. When I have more money Ill chage into Nutt brakes cuz these stock ones are shit, not durable at all.
Are you running single motor primarily?
@@mytriggertime2610 no never actually because it does nothing to the range or has any other advantage in my oppinion, I did a test and it is the same distance + i very heavy dude so it takes a lot of power to move me :D
@@mytriggertime2610 only for the trip home when the controller fails. No i ride full speed like a madman always. I do believe i have the issue resolved. I think it was overheating. So i replced the thermal paste on the mosfets.i also sanded down the chassis where the controller mounted and added thermal paste there as well. The stock paste inside the enclosure was dry and cracking away. Possibly from over heating but idk i figured thst would be a good place to start. I plan too add a heatsink under the body also, or at least dremel in some lines right under the controller but on the outside of the chassis to act as a heatsink, you wouldnt see that part anyway. But so far its been working fine. Settings maxed and its been getting pretty warm here . I normally get about a month before it blows and thats of im careful. Im on 2 months now and its one i rebuilt from 1 that caught on fire, and another that was filled with water. Lol but ive been trying to burn it out for the last month and shes solid. I thought i blew it a couple weeks ago but it was my hook washers p. Theystripped and twisted my motor phase wires up and pretty much destroyed the harness. Locked up the motor from the wires shorting but that was an easy fix.
i think you brake hard with a full battery and then regenerative braking sends back too much volts and blows the controllers. there is no way controllers just fail that often in normal use
I lost a controller at 80 miles on mine. The rear motor quit. It was also warranted but I hope it doesn’t happen again.
How did you get it fixed? Did you have to send it back in or did the company send a spare
@@hyrulemasterchef9573 they sent me a new controller and I installed it myself
@@swhalstead Good morning, I just wanted to ask you which retailer did you buy your VSETT from? Thank you,
I'm at 2,000 miles and I think my front wheel motor is jacked up, it stops working for 5-30 seconds after going over cracks and bumps. I can't change the controller because I super glued it closed after the cheap ass screws broke them selves so there was nothing holding it closed
I have heard said many times that controller problems are caused by regen braking.
Advice is to set regen braking to Zero
I bealive Vsett 10+ does not have regen braking. At least mine doesnt. When I let go my throtle I just roll freely
@@Guitarnoob99 All Vsett10+ scooters have regenerative braking.
P11 setting needs to be set at zero.
The reason is that continual recharging of an already fully charged battery will cause over heating and damage to the controller.
It is not neccessary to engage any level of regen braking as the hydraulic disc brakes are already totally adequate.
Steven Chan, the Administrator for Vsett Scooter Riders Group had similar problems with his controller which required replacement.
He has since completely stopped using regen braking and has not had any further problems with his controller.
@@Guitarnoob99 regen brakes engage only when you press lightly brake levers, when cutting off motor power. I have set it on lvl3 and have prety decent braking on 25kmh+ helps when going down the hill
@@urbanloverman hmmm i did not know that :) ! I suppose if you lose some battery capacity then turn on regen that way you are kinda safe perhaps
@@Guitarnoob99 The hydraulic disc brakes are already totally adequate.
Great video thanks!
Since I commute at least 10 kilometers a day with my scooter I will accumulate a lot of kilometers eventually so this video was very informative and useful.
Still using stock tires and I just wait to get a puncture always checking tire pressure like I am obsessed but fingers crossed they'll last 😁
It's bad to hear about the controller but fingers crossed it won't fail for me any time soon. The shocks will probably fade and maybe become softer but that will give me a reason to upgrade the shocks anyway.
Any issues?
@@escobar1656 I am at around 3500km after a year in a month or so and I have on average driven six out of seven days a week in this period. I have driven in basically all types of weather everything from thunderstorm or snow storm with 5-10cm snow on the road to dry and sunny days. Also the dual drive when riding in snow was really a breaker or life saver I mean using single drive made the scooter going nowhere or the scooter sliding all over the place no grip at all but with dual drive it was like having 4x4 on a car great stability and grip.
Anyway I haven't had any issues whatsoever thinking either mechanical or electrical despite riding in rain and snow many times.
Only done the usual tweaks like silicone different places where water might creep in. So for me the scioter is pretty waterproof even if some might argue the opposite.
The only issue have had is punctures but I guess that is somewhat expected with these scooters so I call it a non-issue it's just boring and annoying to change the tubes. But at least it's easy and it's done in an hour or so.
So I am really happy with it and it has far surpassed my expectations.
Hope this answers you question but if you wonder anything more it's just to ask. 😉😀
@sebulbathx the salesaman warned me about the tires. I think i will get the semi off road ones
Any brake issues? I noticed the rotors sometimes warp a tiny bit after use. Amped up the regen brake for that reason
@@WorivpuqloDMoghThe stock tyres are really bad in every aspect. Even the grip on smooth asphalt us horrible even compared to offroad tyres. If I knew better I would have changed earlier. Not too expensive mod but can save you a lot of hassle in punctures.
From everything I read do not use regen if you want your controller to function for longer time. The regen the higher setting it will overheat the controller.
I haven't had any brake issues beside a small leak of brake fluid around the caliper which isn't really an issue. Just that I have to refill the brake fluid every other month. And no warping if the discs but that can happen with any disc if abused anyway. Also that is a relative inexpensive mod too if you want a step up from stock.
Anymore questions just ask. I have soon around 5000km on mine so I guess I have somewhat longterm experience. 🙂
Can u clarify exactly what tires u upgraded to
At the shop its called TUOVT (255×80 10") apart from that there is no more info
Hello Tomas... i spoted your channel today and i like it... i have Vsett 10+ 25.6Ah from avgust 2021 with 1300km and i must say a had problems with controler in first week(front motor died) but then they replaced it at the service station and unlocked it ... after removing the electronic limit at 25km / h (white wire on the controller) it never happened again... I bought four tyres: 2 wider street and 2 offroad tyres(not good tyres in my oppinion) but now i ordered 255/80 like you have them... hope that will be better...
And this is interesting... my friend has Vsett 10+ scooter but he bought it in February 2022 ... the controller died twice in one month... he didn't want to remove the restriction (he was afraid of the police)... he removed the restriction three weeks ago and everything has been ok since then...
Stay healthy and many safe km... Greetings from Slovenia(EU)
holy shit controler died twice o_O ! thats crazy and must be very frustrating :( well at least we have warranty :D im a bit worried what will happen when the warranty ends xD cuz the controler is quite expencive + service costs. Lets hope it holds. Also did you notice how expencive the tube is for these scooters ? at least in Lithuanian one tube is like 10 euro :( ....a much bigger tube for my bycicle is like 3 euro.
Rock on Slovenia ! ^_^ hand shake from Lithuania :D
@@Guitarnoob99 yea it's frustrating but like you said at least we have warranty... yea i notice how expensive they are... one tube for scooter in Slovenia is 15eur and one tyre is 35eur :/ so i ordered tyres 255/80 and tubes from Aliexpress for 55eur(both tyres with tubes) and is like 45eur cheaper than in Slovenia... hand shake back my brother :D
I am curious about wider street tires. Where can I find them or what is the name for them?
Interesting about the speed limiter. If it might be the limiter that for some reason makes the controller fail then maybe I don't have to worry about that much since I don't have the limiter on my scooter. If your buddy hasn't have any more problems since he removed the limiter that is.🙂
@@sebulbathx i looked on aliexpress for 90/65-6 tyre that is 270mm in diameter and 100mm wide(original tyre 80/65-6 is 250mm in diameter and 80mm wide) but i dont know if that wider tyre will fit because i have 160mm freefloat disk mounted... maybe will fit on original 145mm disk...
My buddy has no problem so maybe there is problem with that speed limiter and controller...
@@sebulbathx i think its called touvt semi off road tire. I bought it in LT shop so not much help to ya in that sence, but im sure you can find that on ebay, amazon or your local el.scooter shop :)
How fast were you able to get it up to? I’m 113kg as well.
to be honest i never tryed to test max speed...in the city 45km/h is plenty and at times unstable so i would not want to drive faster
@@Guitarnoob99 yah in the citty theres no point using 2-3 level :), im always using first gear
hi. I crashed and by them my stem wobble , I tried to tight the bots but seem to do nothing
I woul buy a neew stem or the stem base or even both if needed. Its metal dude...once its damaged you cant restore it to be perfect. www.rideandglide.co.uk/product/vsett-stem-base-clamp/
also its not that expencive :)
Good info
Man! 3k km and you still using the stock handlebar? I changed mine @ 200 km and it's the best upgrade i ever did for 20$.
Yeah unfortunetly I have to, because those handle incorporate a turn signal button and at least when I last checked there are only handles without that so id be giving up my turning signals. Considering that I driv along with the cars sometimes the turning signal is a must for me. But yeah I wish I could buy something with leather :(
@@Guitarnoob99 I did replace my handlebar and kept the grips + turning signals. Believe me, its a hell of an upgrade.
@@Guitarnoob99 let me know if you need help. Its easy to do and works great.
@@mornaistar oh yeah sorry i missunderstood :DDDD yes I was actually thinking of changing that handlebar :D its starting to be annoyng when I feel it wigling a bit :D
@@Guitarnoob99 you will love it. I couldn't go more than 45kmh with the stock one without wobbles. With the new one I go 50-60kmh without any wobble.
Hey Bro, nice video & thx for sharing those things, for the flat tires I use the blue band into the tire & slime, it’s very useful! Regards from Colombia
thanks :) im glad you found it useful :)
I use regular slime. Havnt had a flat since and it’s been 6 months
Interesting! I'm about to buy the Vsett 10+. Seems like this scooter was worth it to you? Looks like this scooter can last a LONG time as long as you take care of it.
I would say deff, yes. In retrospective I think its a good idea to change into a diff. hydraulic brake sett like shymano or Nutt, change some screws to a better quality ones, tire change is a must aswell to avoid punctures ... otherwise its a great sterdy scooter that will last a long time for a simple user cuz I do food delivery job with it so it is beeing used daily 30-60 km
@@Guitarnoob99 Oh wow! Thanks for the reply! I agree with you from what I saw.
Where did you buy your tires from?! I'm going to buy spares just in case. Also where did you buy a new controller from? Are the tires and controller easily replaceable or were they hard to change?
@@wombat5252 since im based in Lithuania I buy my stuff at that vsett dealer, but iv seen same tires on aliexpress too :) its called Touvt semi offroad tires. The controler is something i did not buy but it was changed for free because of waranty :)
Yes its perfect scooter compared to others. Great design, sturdy parts.. except maybe handlebar (changeable), tires (changeable), try go get with Nutt brakes if possible. Im not realy happy with folding hook, but acceptable even if it does not have fix in folded state
@@milordas I just got mine in last week. I totally agree with you - Everything is great except the stupid folding handle bar. I will be changing that.
Mine came with the disk brakes and they seem to work well. Maybe I should buy the nutt brakes?
I have pretty much all the same issues bro. I’m riding a 2022 mantis pro se
Hmm well it looks similar, but its somewhat cheaper....you know one reason I would not buy Mantis is because of its stem lock, looks like any other scooter with those clams, I bet after some time you will get some sort of wiggle :) ...one of the main reasons I bought Vsett was because it has that super clamp :)
Helau. Kur pirkai? Yra dar kokių minusų su juo? Planuoju ant vasaros pirkt. Kadangi nepigus daiktas, tai norisi viską žinot. :)
Labas :) pirkau Riedis.lt ..... daugiau problemu nera, jei kazkas islys iskarto sukursiu nauja video :) arteju prie 4000 km ribos tai paziuresim kaip ten bus :D
problema kinietiskuose varztuose.. kurie kaip sake yra per minksto metalo, o ir atsukti juos kebloka. Visu pirma jie "priklijuoti" o antra, kai kurie turi viduje "spygli", kuriam reikia specialaus rakto
Do or did you use electric breaking? Some say its the reason why controllers blow up.
no i did not :)
i heard controllers blows up when you use electric brake while going down hill or something like that with full battery
honestly i found many issues with the V10. similar on what you have discussed
Me to, I have the 8+ and every piece has its own problems. Broken screws, stripped screws, missing screws that fell off because they do not put loctite on the screws so they get soooooo loose. I mean I would tighten the screws and a week later, they would be loose enough to spin with my pinky. My left break is completely jammed up. The front wheel motor stops working after riding over cracks. Some screws were put on so tight at the factory that they will never be taken out. The cheap ass included tool got mangled up on its own after trying to tighten the breaks. Also they told me I have to pay $100 to ship it to them, $100 for them to ship it back, and $50+ an hour for them to service my scooter for problems that were caused by the scooter itself. Also I told them it was still under warranty and they stopped replying to me
I mean service costs $50+ per 30 minutes
@@DARK_AMBIGUOUS where did you purchase the scooter from?
Definitly turn off regen braking that allways kills the controller
I thought what kills it is running 2 motors at hard acceleration rate cause that makes the controller push it's maximum amp draw. can't say much about regen breaking cause I don't know.
@@RESISTAGE nah it doesent if u use one motor it usualy overheats that motor and it shuts down and in the end it uses up more battery than with two dual motors turned on u shoud be using dual motor all the time and no regen and that maximises the controllers life and the life of motors
I'm now getting "error code 10" on my control module (E 10) and the red triangular hazard warning... no power and life coming from it
Read the Manuel and see what Error 10 means
@LOST ANARCHIST I don't have the vset10+ anymore, it was stolen from the boot of my car lol, sad times, but I now ride the Yugen G4 Pro which is a kind of vset10+ knock off but better in all regards... sturdy handle bars, more power, wider deck. Led lights and off road tyres as standard.. the error code 10 was a faulty battery pack which had corroded wires
My zoom brakes leak in the same spot as well. Also on my caliper.
fucking hell :( well I will be making a new video explaining a bit more about those brakes, but its SHIT !
Is the range still good after 3000km?
I have the 8+ and it's at almost 2,000 miles and the range is exactly the same from what I can tell since day 1
I got a vsett 10 plus 3k+ miles and got like 5-6 months with it and battery just died. Out the blue. I used it the night before totally fine a long ride to 10 miles there’s and back and charged it the next day and it was dead. No idea lucky I still got warranty and new battery has separate warranty
wow that was unexpected ! perhaps that one battery unit fas faulty, but I will post a new video soon and I have some new problems to share
@@Guitarnoob99 when you charge yours where is it fully charged my 1st battery sometimes would flicker between 67.1,67.2 den drops to 67 66.9 this new battery too I just got it today
"Oh, my brakes liquid is leaking out, which is a matter of life and death situation. Everything else is working just fine so I'm cool with it."
Dude how is there customer service!? Are they willing to help
If we are speaking of that scooter shop that I bought it from they are extremely helpful :) but sometimes it takes time to get response from them and like the last time I showed them my leaky brake handles and for some reason it was not taken under warranty so im still driving like that. I did not deal with Vsett directly ofc :) its always scooter shops responsibility
I bought mine from Rev Rides. If you scooter is under warranty, they will tell you to go to a hardware store and ask for parts. They will go back and forth with you trying to get you to do anything but have them send you a new piece for free until they inevitably stop replying like they did to me twice. If your warranty ended, then they will be happy to charge you $200 for 2 way shipping and charge you a mystery fee of $50+ per 30 minutes of service. That's what they told me. I told them my scooter is still under warranty and they stopped replying and it's been over a week
Did you drove it in single motor mode verry often? or did you had habit to change dual/single motor mode while driving? Or switching on sport mode while driving? People say those things cause controller burning?
I do that, while driving.. have 3000 km and have error code eoo
My issues began around 100 miles. Sorry for all the comments btw. I’m typing as I’m watching. Your story is very familiar
Im thinking maybe its because when the company launches a new product it has lots of bugs ??? but yeah I thought it would be more reliable :)
0:09 I totally agree about this type of tyre. The stock ones on my 9+ are junk. Badly manufactured and out of round to the point of being unusable and had to be replaced under warranty. Same story with a later replacement of the same brand. How are they producing such horrible tyres?
hello brother... If you want reliable tires buy yourself 255/80 TUOVT tyre... they are very good for road and offroad and they are not badly manufactured... i have them and have no problem
@@BlastedFreak82 Sweet as mate. I was wondering about that brand. Thanks a lot for your reply. Much appreciated.
@@BlastedFreak82 yeah my 10+R came with Touvt’s preinstalled. My shop Revrides inspects and improves all ordered scooters (like those tires, or fixing known issues from factory) before sending them out.
Maaaate, I've had the saaame issues and I too have changed to those 50/50 off road tyres... I've had over 6 punctured tyres... the slicks are absolutely diabolical. But the offroad tyres have slowed me down by like 10mph in both single and twin motor mode... the build quality DOSE NOT!! stand the test of time! I've changed the handle bars THREE times! They're crap and have a ridiculous design flaw! So now I'm using mountain bike handlebars!
I wish all those vset10 reviews that sing it's praises did an ACTUAL review...
Because yes its fast, and yes its the best looking! But the sacrifices you have to make in order to keep it working! Wow...
P.s I have A LOT more to add to the equation... thinking to do a review myself, starting all the problems this scooter has
Haha there there :D all good mate let it all out ... Well I know one thing that nothing lasts for ever :P so I would not give vsett too much crap :D ... although it has some problems it also has other things that are awsome like a rigid stem locking mechanism :) that other scooters just dont have and for me it was important not to have that where you need spacers and of other mesures to make it stop wobling :D orrrrr the fact that most scooters dont have any part where you can lock it to a pole or something... most are very unpraktical
@@Guitarnoob99 lol yes there are some good things about this scooter, but I don't feel the need to fluff these things up, as every single review I watched prior to purchasing, firmly had the 10+'s nuttsacc in their month's... it could do no wrong... and for 5 pounds short of 2000 quid, I kind of expect perfection.
As for the rigid stem, no. I'd have to disagree, mine has already started creaking and cracking, the scooter makes loud bangs when it travels over uneven terrain.... (probably needs new shocks) and the actual locking system! To carry it!! Is an abbbsolute or Dosen't stay locked and constantly keeps cooking off! The headlights are inadequate too! The indicators are non noticeable when the lights are on, and the horn, wow this thing is an absolute complete waste of time! It's absolutely shite! A mouse wouldn't hear that in quiet room, let alone a pedestrian walking down a street with noise pollution in the air... so I've fitted a ding ding type of bell to the handlebars because yet again, vsett failed there.
For all the issues you mentioned, this is why I love the inokim scooter. Well built and performs like a beast.
really ? :) well I considered OXO but I went with this Vsett 10+ instead :) ... the 2 main problems of OXO are the rear plastic footrest that breaks off or shaters and the most annoying problem of all is the shit stearing columb locking mechanism that over time becomes wobly and flimsy :) just like the rest of scooters like Xiaomi ec. ... No scooter is problem free not even Inokim. It has its own flaws, not to mention the suspention is harder, it has less power and less range :) so I would not give so much credit to Inokim if I was you
I have both the oxo and this vsett. My oxo came with a bent back rotor and the throttle died after 200 miles so trust me they can have issues too. These have a lot of moving parts they’re prone to failure
People get scared and traumatized when you talk about this are the problems,, it could be meaningless sh!t and it will make them push away😄 💯
My 8+ got soooooo loose that it started falling apart. The way to fix this is take each screw off and clean the screw and the inside threads and then apply blue loctite, then put the screws back on and hope to God the cheap ass Vsett screws don't get stripped and the heads don't break off. I have 3 broken screws, 2 stripped screws, and the back reflector got so loose it fell off on day 1
Sup Tomas after a long time bro i have been watching you for time i have ssme problem with (pushings) i just dont know where to get spare ones cause everything i put between there is not good 😅 and i have over 3.5k..It is my 4rd scooter so far i love the vsett !!❤️ please tell me or link me where i could get some if you figured it out so far lmao
You dont have stem problems?
no not at all it is still as good as it was when it was new :) no wiggle at all
Is your folding area loose? If yes, there are 3 screws under with that you tighten to make that part more stiff. I'm so glad I discovered this
At least you didn’t have the problem I had
What problem did you have? Be glad you didn't have all of the problems that I had.
love the truth bombs
❤
Im finna buy it, it verry expensive for me , do its still worth it?
Do what the finna spirit tells you my frend
YES
Buckle Up, you made a painful painful choice my dear friend...
fluid comes out becouse of low quality oil or oil ring. The same happends with all Ultron scooters. If u want a good ones try Goodtaste GT03 , these same brakes are with name: XOD XD-D700 and NFOX B015. These Comes On Hiley Tiger 10 scooter. No issues after 6500km on my brothers scooter and from what I see in my day job (scooter repair shop) - these brakes has no complain issues with other scooters where these brakes are on. You dont need shimano or Nutts. (Also Hiley Tiger 10 is better as vsett 10 vesions. I have driven both and lots of 60v scoots. Tiger 10 is unbeatable in parameter/quality/price).
Hey, my rubber caps fell off to
CHANGES THAT SIR.....HUNTER QUAD THE BEST ELECTRIC SCOOTER IN KOREA
Check out the Segway p100s. Great quality machine.
well we can not be sure about the quality of this thing as it is fairly new, so I would not say great quality about something that has not been tested properly for at least 5000km ... As for the thing it self iv seen it when it was advertised some time ago and I think it is one of the best looking scooters out there at least for my taste of design, BUT thats about the only thing I like about it. I think its way overpriced for what it delivers...it does not have the range or the power even as Vsett 10+ does. I am waiting for TEVERUN BLADE MINI PRO now this is a promissing product and from what I have heard it fairly priced and you get a lot for your money.
@@Guitarnoob99 You get what you pay for.
Nothing at all wrong with a plain bushing providing you keep it lubricated. Wear only occurs when there is no oil present
So glad i went with regular brakes instead of hydraulic brakes on my ghost.
why is that?
@@bubblemagic8664 easy to adjust and fix myself and work just fine
Damn what a shame this was my next pick for scooter wise. Guess I'll pass now. Thanks.
I think you should still consider it :) + this was the first of first models so I bet you the new models are of better quality and main bugs fixed, Like I know for a fact there are different motors anf NUTT brakes on the newer ones. Then again there is nothing that is super duper quality :) stuff wares and brakes. My friend has Inokim OXO and it has issues of its own so nothing is issue free its just all about what kind of issues you will be getting.
Wise choice my friend, wise choice...
Since I see you are from Lithuania. Kokia nuomone del parlamento sprendimo, kuris galimai isigalios liepos 1 diena, paspirtukai bus legalus tik iki 500W ir 20 km/h greicio, viskas kas virsis siuos parametrus bus nelegalu, ir galima naudoti tik "privacioje valdoje, savam kieme".
man tai nerupi istiesu :) vistiek vazinesiu. Dabar ir taip pareigunu truksta tai ka jie tipo skirs pareigunus stabdyti kiekviena scooteri ? kazkaip abejoju. Cia toks pats tuscias istatymas kaip ir nulipti nuo dviracio ir vestis ji per pereja :D ar kazkas taip daro ? na kokie 2 is 10 tai nezinau nesidomejau ar cia sita susni istatymu jau prieme, nes kiek girdejau tik svarstys, bet jei priims tai niekas ju nesilaikys garantuotai
@@Guitarnoob99 na tai nenaujiena, ypac ziurint i UK ar Germany, kur toks pat limitas, ir pastoviai yra reidai, ar tiesiog random sustabdymai su baudomis, PEV konfiskavimu ir net baudos taskais ant vairuotojo pazymejimo.
Debiliski istatymai, nieko kito nepasakyciau. Arba galimai bandoma priartinti prie EU direktyvu. As pvz su 500w i kalna turbut net neuzvaziuociau (ten kur reikia)... Su VSETT 10+ tenka net antra varikli isijungti, kad bent stabiliai 22kmh (originalus limitas dar stovi) uzvaziuotu. Realiai pagalvojus tai koks jiems (istatymu leidejams) skirtumas koks ten variklio galingumas, saugumo prasme uztektu kad nieks nevazinetu daugiau 20-25 kmh ir visi kelyje bus saugus. Tiksliau dviraciu takuose ar saligatviuose. As asmeniskai gatvemis nesiruosiu vazineti, ne savizudis, nebent tai gatveles, kur vienas auto per 10 min pravaziuoja
U should of put solid tires on it that's wat I did and I never had a flat tire problem again
yeah nooooo not gona do that ... dont want to sacrifice comfort for conveniance :) its not that complicated to change the tube like it is on Ninebot or Xiaomi scooters.
@@Guitarnoob99 but if ur a heavier rider like urself ur more prone to flats Plus that back tire is where most all people get there flats at because of all the weight is mostly there u have to ride on high psi or u will get pinch flats as well on ur tires and ur back shock has to b on a harder tension because of ur weight or u will get alot of bad things happening to u
@@popsiclestick8405 I rode my thing for over 7000 km and the tires never failed for no reason either I would punkture them on contact with glass and such or there was once a shit tire batch from Touvt company...had some tire thread poping out punkturing the tube... I think I made a video about that so I got my self the semi offroad tires and they served me well ever since :) + they actually made the ride more comfortable as there is more rubber on them, but yeah thanks for the tip I will regulate the rear shock for more stiffness :) .... I honestly think solid tire is not the way to go, I mean the ride is not the softest as it is now and with solid ones its gona be even worse feedback with a lot more vibrations witch is going to ruine comfort and probably the durability of other parts that will for sure take on more vibrations and will fail.
This is totally normal dude after 2000km ride. It should actually happen earlier. Some people dosent respect their scooter
so pretty much its trash?
definetly no :)
We'll kind of, I have the 8+ and it's fun when it's not having problems and it always has problems
Anybody lost some mph on theirs?? I love about 9 mph from top speed help
Come on. Race me!!!!
Hydraulic brakes are over rated. Having cycled over 25k miles without an accident in my lifetime. I only used rim brake pads going 60+ mph down a mountain to city riding. Anticipate your stop, give a lot of room and go slower in a busy environment such as city streets or ubran areas with people.
You'll get there.
Too many times people are in a hurry and that's when you get into trouble.
Still riding rim brakes.
That is not a big deal breaks I hawe Shimano xt if they are not properly blodyd they will start too leak that fluid Is chep yus giw it ti MTB mechanics to clean them and put new oile. And brings are material wich changes after feu tausands km. And I think same with bushings. And lot more betings haw Bikes full susp and ewry thing is much cuayater . I have also bought Vsett before 2 weaks on black Friday I haw a good deal and I didn't even knew that tech go so crazy for electric scooter I always sen litle stem with litle handlebar and no suspension and I seen Vsett , for comuting and 5/10km rides in one are I can drive it for 8 to 9months of beutiful weather. And it can cross 50km + with one charge but . Also its much more fun thet I toth.
I think this guy has operator error mostly as he stripps the bolts and has no idea what he is doing and he beats the shit out of his scooter
I have the 8+ and I know everything ther is to know about screws and bolts and tools, I even work at Home Depot, and when I tell you Vsett screws are cheap AF, THEY ARE CHEAP AF. I have the 8+ and I try to loosen a screw as carefully as possible and it just strips. I have screws inside the scooter that snapped in half by them selves. Even if you don't strip the screws, you can see that they get bent and mangled a little bit every time you loose or tighten them. I've also head screw heads break off. Also there are tons of other people who have the same problem with stripped and jacked up screws. The included tool is a piece of gourmet garbage as well. I tried to unscrew a screw on the Handel bars and the tool got sooo twisted and mangled up. It looks like a spaghetti noodle
I hate the tube tires they suck
it is what it is dude :D
do not drive to Ukraine (possible multiple punctures on russian tanks remains) and it would be ok :) i just replaced stock air intake caps on my tires with metal ones
You buy a scooter ? Be prepared to maintain it like any machine . You ride it hard ? Then you'll have problems and more maintainance like any machine ...
I've lost acceleration power
You change the acceleration using the P Codes. The acceleration can be changed from 0-5 and the default is 3. I cranked mine up to 5
@@DARK_AMBIGUOUS yeah I know this but the tires slow it down
I had the same issue... Check my page out
Factory tires are shit on all scooters ! Change em up with good quality rubber .
Those stoopid controllers. It should be made to be capable of working at least 20,000+ km without problems, these scooters are as expensive as some 15 years old cars which are driven 500,000km and can hold on still driving them for tens of thousands of kilometers, and those scooters are brand new having problems before 5k kms is just disgusting. Is it that hard to put some good capable of high voltage controller + 2 high quality motors, solid construction, suspension and wheel construction... Always will be the chinese trash builds. If germans or japans start doing electric scooters they will be much more solid.
Yeah I was thinking the same. I soke to the shop owner about this and he said that chinese do not like critisism lol :D ... another thing worth mentioning that in China these things are very cheap, and the manufacturer is saving money everywhere where they can. So getting back about the price and the reason it is so expencive is because all the import and tax implemented by EU and local countries so VAT for my country is 21% + fuck knows how much it is for import + shipping so yes as it is, its very expencive and even if they did spend more money on making these better I wonder if people would pay more to get better :) ... I payed 2300 euro for mine, but I doubt I would pay more as I could buy a car or a premium 125cc scooter for 3000-4000 euro ....another question is why would you buy a beast like this in the first place ? I bought it just because I do food deliveries and I need big battery + strong enough motors to pull my ass...if it wasnt for the job I think I woud be riding something like Ninebot g30 MAX ... cheap and more reliable.
@@Guitarnoob99 I ride vsett 8 15.6Ah one motor, totally enough for me. Almost every time I take it back home with up to 30-40% battery left. It's now on 4000 km without changing anything but the rear tire once. What I want is to be able to go up to 45-50 km/h while going up of 5%-10% hills but with vsett 8 im going with up to 35-38 km/h which is not enough i need a lil bit more. I hate cars that need to overtake me I feel better while they just decide that I am fast enough and they stay behind me instead of overtaking me and driving close to me while doing that. In terms of this I think for my needs I need something 2x1000w with 23 A but what I really want if I pay 1500-2000 euro is to be perfect solid electric scooter not a shitt that will make problems on first 3-4k kms. If it's like that, it is better for me to go just for some 50cc scooter or even a car lol.
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Al of these “off road “ scooters are overpriced shit. So glad I did not spend $2K on one. Me and my specialized stump jumper are happier too.
This is a cheap scooter thank God I didn't buy it
Its not :) cheap... the shop where i bought it said the only better quality scooter that brakes down less often is Ninebot Max 30 and Vsett scooters have the second least problems so dont take my info im giving out of contecst :) + keep in mind that I use it for food deliveries and do up to 50-60KM daily wit heavy loads so it is to be expected to brake down more often. Show me a scooter that does not have a single issue after heavy use :) I dont think there is one, everything brakes eventually, so this video is only meant to show what could fail in time rather than to say that its not worth the money :)
@@Guitarnoob99 I don't mean price I mean quality of the scooter because I have electric scooters for years and i never had a crack or controller failure only tire failure but if u get motor, controller or frame failure that's a sign it's not a good scooter meaning it's not made well or manufactured well
😟 I should have bought a Ninebot
@@Guitarnoob99 I bought a 160€ 2021 Scooter in 2023. Just an average low budget offroad scooter, 1000W single motor (45 km/h) and super small battery (48V 10Ah, very much abused)
It had in beginning 2023 around 2800 km on it, i was driving since then nearly 7000 km on it WITHOUT ANY FAILURE.
Sure enough small things... the front suspensions nut on the top got loose a bit.... tightened it. Also, the folding mechanism (one of the worst you can imagine...) needed often a readjustment after much offroading or heavy bumps i did not see. But nothing extraordinary!
Now, after about 7000 km the first real issue i encountered... the already damaged/bent front suspension goes crazy and the front tire sheers sometimes on the suspension forks top, might too much weight and stress on the spring, might the bent parts bended even more and so its rubbing against it sometimes. Nevermind, i bought this scooter to "break" it, before i look into a proper, much better scooter
All i know, for me it took about 7000 km, much offroad, fast charging a lot etc and it still runs! Yes, the battery is on its last leg (8-15 km range), the motor got that often hot/overheated it lost reasonable amount of torque and a bit top speed, most moving parts make bad sounds already despite lubing them, since some days also the wheel bearings make squeaky noises, but thats expected after the tortoure this scooter had with me!
Okay first of all don't buy from these companies anymore if they're using cheap parts and parts are breaking that is a definite sign that that company is not reliable especially on quality control, most of these companies do not care, especially if you're going 45 mph even you need something reliable this is why I've always stuck with dualtron mini motors scooters super high quality Little bit more money but completely, worth it they come very well packed, lots of aftermarket parts to make it your scooter, and you got to love a company that always answers their phone no excuse super reliable John and Chris some of the nicest people in the world up in San Francisco headquarters saving up for my thunder 3 can't wait
You know the Bluetran Lightning? Its a Minimotors/Dualtron and by far one of the most dangerous scooters regarding to its quality, mainly the front and rear suspension loves to break apart and send you to the asphalt face forward!