I Found the New GOLDEN PEGLIN!
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 09. 2023
- Peglin Part 70 - first the golden idol, next the golden bunny, now the golden peglin. One day, King Midas will consume us all. This golden Peglin does deliver a very fun orb though, surely it'll carry me to a smooth victory.
Edited by: Frazzz and Ben Ranger
#aliensrock #peglin #peggle
BONUS VIDEOS: / aliensrock
LIVE STREAMS: / aliensrock
COMMUNITY: / discord - Hry
Ballectrum is SUCH an awesome orb but i do think that the language needs to be changed bc it says "adds one gold" which would make you think it avoids the molten mantle's "you no longer receive gold from pegs" but molten mantle ALSO stops it giving you gold
Sadly you ar not the first one to find it
it adds one gold peg, not one gold i think
@@kiranaun9593it adds both 1 gold peg and normal gold
@@kiranaun9593it doesn’t look like it, but if it does then it turns the peg it hits into a gold peg, collecting it immediately
Ballrectum
We need the editors to start adding in the total amount of health saved by oboe at the end to see just how much weight it pulls
I cant imagine how annoying it would be to count with healing orbs
considering it's functionally the tungsten rod from Slay The Spire and that is a very good relic it's probably a decent amount
@@bookreaderman6715i feel like you lose a lot more hp in sts than peglin
Cut them some slack, if you care so much its easy to count the hits .
@@bigzigtv706 I think that is true but I think that the damage you do take here is a lot of small hits as opposed to a bunch of somewhat larger ones
The real sinergy with "leaf it to later" is with the relic that active nearby pegs when hit a refresh, makes the run more survivable
To be fair, ANY synergy with the leaf makes it okay. But as with most things that require synergy: Don't take it, if you don't already have that stuff. Hoping to get synergy later is just a recipe for disaster.
Morbid would probably work well with it.
@@trevorhaddox6884are u sure??🤨
@@mr.m.t.j.m6003 he has a point. the leaf makes your board have a really low amount of pegs, so morbid works
@@trevorhaddox6884 Morbid mitigates its downside. It’s not good with it.
Something notable is they made power slides better and more consistent this update. Love to see it.
Sometimes they feel worse tbh
I just realized the leaf completely ruins power slides, making it even worse that I thought it is
@@youshimimi the game barely had them anyway
@@youshimimiwait leaf? Is that the relic adding 10 refreshes but they each only do 4 pegs?
@@CR1MSONACE yup, that's the one
Yeah, Leaf is pretty much for only very specific refresh builds. It's very reliant on relics like Cookie, Strange Brew, Brassicae Knuckles, that sort of thing. Otherwise it's a hard pass in my opinion.
Edit: I change my mind. Just did a couple runs with Leaf and the Refreshing Punch, and it absolutely pops off. One run had Refreshircle (refreshes the board every 6 hits), Signal Boostorb ( This orb is affected by Muscirle, Spinesse, and Ballance 2(+) times ), Refresher Course (Every 4 times the board is refreshed, gain a random Muscircle or Spinesse). My Signal Boostorb ended the dragon with 119 regular attack and 38 crit damage.
Like with everything that requires synergy: Don't take it, if you don't have synergy with it. You wouldn't take the golden fleece with no crit stuff. So why take the leaf with no refresh stuff?
@@Schilani The minor difference is that taking fleece with no crit synergy is a dead relic slot and that's it
Taking the leaf without refresh synergy can kill the run entirely
Hm, with all the popped/missing orbs the Leaf leaves behind, anything with the Morbid trait would work pretty well (Morbidorb, Defresh Potion, etc.).
@@Schilania boss relic shouldn’t instantly kill a run
@@MrTVx99 I think having more situational relics isn't bad. My mind is usually drawn to other roguelikes in that regard. Like for Slay the Spire. That gane has pretty much the same reward system. But these boss relics are a lot more polarising.
In that sense Peglins is a lot more lenient, given that most boss relics can be taken for any build and only have a disadvantage if you really try and dig for it.
Damn, ending the ballista fight with 17 HP left, exactly how much you had just healed, perfect
Can't wait to see a run where Tyler actually makes use of the leaf. Idk how, it's terrible. I just need to see it happen.
It’s good in a refresh heavy build. If you have more ways to refresh, and cookie or broccoli or something (especially broccoli), then it’s good. Otherwise, it seems to be actively bad.
There’s a muscircle build you can do. For each refresh you get more mus..
I feel like until it gets buffed it's going to be awful forever, lol.
Think it'd make a lot more sense if it made it where refreshes refresh 10% of pegs on the board rather than only 4, or something similar to that.
Duplication potion and Reorbanizer can be broken combination
Refresh = Crits + Crit Fleece build would be insane
Each pegging session is getting more and more expensive, can’t believe it costs gold now. Pegging these days are crazy expensive.
Back in my day, it was free
@@pictureplanet1damn spinflation
@s01d16but then you'd have to deal with the aching back and hurting head from bad posture
@@rattking6874 and navigationflation
You don't need to pay gold, but if you don't, your pegging may suck
I bet leaf works well with Orbsium- each refresh hit will refresh 4x2/3/4 pegs, making it restore faster... OR with Defresh potion/mordidorb or Necorbmancer, two mechanics that suffer when the board is frequently full of pegs.
EDIT- I just tested it. The refresh moves when struck, so Orbsium doesn't refresh multiple times; which is bogus. :c
No reason Mordid orbs or Necorbmancer shouldn't work well with it though
it's cool with defresh potion but so is everything
31:07 he missed because you picked up round guard from the shop
I think a relec removal event in the last area would be interesting. Like you know if you get it you can remove one relic if it seems like it might have anti-synergy with the final boss.
Makes the Gift no longer suicide against the dragon
@@100beep5the dragon has a new map that makes the gift not suicide anyway
@kkidude8441 checked the wiki and didn't see it do you have a video of it so I can see?
@@darksoulbg24
The CZcams URL is this
Di2o3Oo1q3Y?si=-PJTZDGv6uMenU_Z
If I post it as an actually hyperlink I'm pretty sure the comment gets deleted
New map is around 43:40
The thing about commiting to relics is that its permanent.
Most builds have one role deffiying rellic anyway so if the final boss is a problem, you can just remove that relic.
Its like if you were allowed to sell your most expensive tower in chimps mode if your deffense couldn't beat round 100.
Generally you only take the leaf if you have synergies, cookie, the thing that refreshes gain coins, broccoli and the other book thing, or even refreshing punch (makes refreshes explode) all benefit a lot
The leaf has the potential to both ruin a run and elevate it to a crazy level. It's cracked with broccoli, refresher course, refillosopers stone, cookie, alchemist's cookbook, refreshing punch, and especially gift. With gift in particular, it still only refreshes the four pegs, but resets the durability on all of the unpopped pegs. Not sure if it's intentionaly that way, but it's quite a good combo.
I forgot this combo, but it would probably be interesting with duplication potion + reorbanizer/treat and maybe strange brew
When Tyler keeps calling the Ballectrum the "Ball rectum" likely on purpose 💀
2:50 reorbanizer, duplication potion, refreshing punch, strange Brew, that orb at tier 3.
Would prob crash the game lmaooo
cant forget your healthy dose of summoning circle
I like how he went from calling it ballectrum in the beginning to just rectum in the end 😂
I think the leaf combos well wih the item that says "refreshes activate nearby pegs", since it can chain them together in theory(as I havent tested it yet)
The critical mass for the leaf would be having the board be 20% refreshes, since having each refresh bring back 4 pegs would mean you need to hit a refresh after every four pegs to not be losing pegs. This pretty much necessitates some form of refresh duplication synergy in order to not have the boss relic literally just destroy your board.
If you had Defresh Potion already, would you take the Leaf after finishing act 2?
@@casualmarkit9969 I don't think so, defresh would be good to somewhat cancel out the negatives of the leaf but it's not active synergy. Defresh is better with something like the gift or kinetic meteorite cause you want to hit pegs normally then get extra damage from bouncing up through all the dead pegs.
The only time I’ve seen the leaf do even close to good is with the gift. The gift keeps enough pegs alive between refreshes to make the leaf not suck
There are several ways to make the leaf good. But as with all synergy: Have that stuff beforehand, don't hope to get it later.
Potion balt is so good, especially with the new slime type it has so much utility packed into one orb, also I just got my ball fifteen clear on spinventer, chip + echo orb is one of the combos in the video game
Can we collectively agree to call the ballectrum "The midas touch"? It's such a cool and fitting name
As the first to be here, thank you aliensrock for getting pegged with gold.
Golden pegging
*For gold😂
With the ball-rectum
Wow you really stepped up the editing recently. Really helps to understand and follow what you do! It's really appreciated!
I love how he says BallRectum instead of Ballectrum until the very end. I also love how he says "cam" instead of "calm" in some of his other videos. XD
I feel like the leaf's refreshes tend to start to gather in places less frequently hit by orbs. Which makes sense, since they can only reactivate 4 pegs, and can only reappear on the board somewhere in place of an active peg. So what happens is you keep hitting pegs in one area until they're all gone, and all the refreshes are collected in the corners. So I don't think having more refreshes helps that much.
Everyone here the moment he uploads:
Furiously refreshes until the new video shows up
I got the almighty Midas build earlier!it was very fun!
I think what really killed the leaf relic's viability here was two things. The first was that bombs activate nearby pegs. That meant that every time you hit a bomb, you were getting rid of WAY more pegs than you were ever making up with refreshes on that shot. The second is that you didn't have the "crits and refreshes deal damage" relic. If you had that, then at least each refresh hit wouldn't essentially be a wasted peg, considering probably a good third of your board was refreshes-it removed a lot of damage potential by not having those pegs that got changed into refreshes able to be activated for actual damage. Between the Ballectrum removing some pegs and a ton of the others being converted to refreshes, you were left with a pretty dismal board state for actually dealing damage, and I think good crit damage and insane multiball plays were the only thing that really brought you back from the edge there. That said, Ballectrum seems like a really cool orb, and I LOVED the Summoning Circle + Potion Ballt combo! (I do love me some slime orbs though, they hold a special place in my heart.)
The refresh leaf seems to need morbid to work... which feels counterintuitive because youd play into that by reducing the amount of refreshes, not turning it to 11.
The leaf is best with the hue shift potion that makes refreshes act as crits, and relics that can take advantage of multiple crits per shot. Also ofc the "refreshes clear nearby pegs" relic
Shout out to the editing. Been killing it lately. Appreciate all the little improvements
Love the editing, good job guys!
Man, this new editor is so good!
Tyler, your vids are only getting better and better ❤
I had a killer run with the leaf and the every 4 refreshes gives +1/0 or 0/+1, especially on balladin. Also worth noting I grabbed refreshiv to try to offset it and instead it only refreshes 4 pegs. still, if you have refresh synergy its pretty good
I guess you could say you had a… BALLER run?
I'm pretty sure one of the main issues with the leaf is that it's just a constant 4 peg refresh. so over time the amount of pegs on the board just go down until they reach around 44(?)
on boards that are especially like the QR code boss, you just end up with relatively very few pegs left.
I feel like leaf might be able to work if you already have existing refresh synergy. I'm not sure how it interacts with relics that trigger when you refresh the board, but maybe a build with duplication potion (refresh and crits leave a stationary copy when they move), Light Shaft Potion (refreshes also crit), and refresh potion (refresh clears nearby pegs when hit) you could probably get a fairly great build. I also thinking getting the leaf, crit fleece, and light shaft potion would make for an insane build.
I think the leaf would be awesome with peg punch, where refreshes activate nearby pegs and it could like chain reaction
I feel like the leaf needs to be changed so that it refreshes more pegs. Maybe every 50th refresh activated refreshes the entire board and not just a few pegs?
I think that leaf relic would be insane with the crit fleece relic and the refreshes count as crits relic. The refresh the board on kill relic would also solve the downside.
A slime focused deck can offset leaf a bit since each slime now takes 3 hit to die. I think there's a decent chance that if you took Prime Slime to go with that new multiball slime, you might have never run out of pegs
I havent found a good synergy for the golden ball in my runs yet but I am hoping to find one soon
I mean you dont really need a synergy for it to be baller. Easy free extra cash is always good. That being said. I had +2/+2 on it and pumpkin pi which made for some really good damage from multiball
Squirrel / duplication stations, + beckoning crit, it's easy crit and gold generating strat.
Or just take molten mantel easy dmg.
would be cool if the when you got the leaf, every refresh that over 10 refreshes makes you refresh +1 peg per refresh
I don’t understand
24:28 Tyler you missed out on the refillibuster!! With the leaf relic the refilibuster does 4 damage per refresh! It gives your damage back to you that you lost when you took the lead relic
I would love a feature of multiball being the damage of a shot with mutiball would be divided by the amount of actual balls and your character would then fire that many shots, making it in little way overwhammer but still with a chance to lose out on damage if each shot is more than a kill worth.
so a shot with multiball that splits once into two balls getting say 100 damage the character would fire two shots at the enemies at 50 damage each, which may kill up to two enemies if their health was up to 50 each.
or alternatively if you have a great build which splits into 100 balls and does 10k damage the character would fire 100 shots with 100 damage, like a minigun
would make it more of a fun visual, could even be its own ball, or even a new character itself? who knows
That gold multiball with a kinetic bounce, durable pegs, and refresh synergy would be insane.
The point of the leaf is to make "when you refresh the board" effects stronger. I'm sure it can be pretty powerful
I think the leaf is best used with a combination of refresh-healing and dealing damage to enemies when you're healed.
Also, refresh pegs into bombs and refresh the bombs into more bombs would be good too, I think.
Aliensrock: "Need to hit the refresh which is kinda out of my control."
Britsha: *chuckles*
In order to make the leaf not a negative, you would either need a very unique build or a 1 out of every 4 legs be a refresh. That means if there a 100 pegs, which is small most probably have, you would need around 25 refreshes to break even.
I think the leaf would have good synergy with, one, any thing that has/gives morbid, and two, the relic that adds 1 Muscircle or 1 Spinesse every three refreshes.
I think the leaf needs to have synergy with what the rest of your build is to be any good (it should probably also refresh a few more pegs.) I imagine it's good if you have durable pegs, or if you have broccoli and safety net, and it's probably fine if you have some of the weaker refresh synergies too.
The leaf gives consistency. It means you will have a relatively stable amount of pegs on the board, around 4x number of refreshes. It's a little underwhelming but there's times it's worthwhile
Fo the leaf to truly work you need either the "kills refresh the board" or "reloading refresh the board" relics
The leaf is very good with nuckles since it fefreshes very fast for many buffs
I feel like the leaf is just a very niche relic. It can't just be inserted into any random deck, but it'll probably make up for it in decks that do things when the board is refreshed.
I always burst with excitement everytime Aliensrock come to Peg
fun fact: on the forest area's plinko for orb/relic events, the default shot that aims straight down will always give you the result on the left side
I think the problem with the leaf is that refresh doesn't contribute to damage, and they get so spread out that hitting them doesn't refill the pegs it took to actually get the refresh. It really needs to have the amount it refreshes doubled. Alternatively they could rework it so it does a certain % of the board instead of 4 pegs. I could imagine how The Wall would be impossible with this relic
I think the leaf is fine, so long as it's with the Gift. As durable pegs need to be refreshed less on average, so having the refreshes only refresh a few could work better there.
Leaf is the final nail in the coffin for refresh synergy, it is the last few that you add into your arsenal. Take it early or take it with any other synergy and you get screwed.
The leaf seems pretty OP if you get certain other relics for synergy. Every refresh gets you Muscircle? Wow.
But yeah, on its own (or with just even MORE refresh pegs) doesn't seem great.
Props to the editor. These edits are fire
Have to say: the leaf should only be better if every fourth or less hit is a refresh, since it refreshes 4 pegs. If you dont have an ungodly ammount of refreshes then you will be stuck with around half the pegs of what u started with. I bet the leaf is basically only good with explosive builds where refreshes lead to muscircle or something
7:14 Love watching tyler get a good shot in with the ball rectum.
For the leaf relic to be worthwhile, I feel like you pretty much need 1/4 pegs to be refreshes. Otherwise you need one or more orbs or relics that benefits from refreshes.
I love watching the peglin vids
Leaf could be could with orange peg synergy as well as for refresh synergy
Wooo pegging, my favorite thing to watch on the internet
the leaf is really good if you pair it with the refreshing punch
Spinventor is like the youngest child, loved the most and the other siblings get ignored
Great vid loved the ending
TLDR: the Leaf is a trap relic, just like the Chip, or the Mask-
The Leaf - adds more refreshes but radically lowers actual refreshes, unless you've already got all the refresh synergy, or the Morbid potion, its guaranteed to leave you with a mostly empty pegboard, and a distinct lack of damage.
The Chip - adds a chance to increase damage, more reliably lowers it or damages you
The Mask - requires you to be under negative status effects to function, and applies the most annoying of such effects to you at the start. exactly one mini-boss and one full boss apply status effects to you across the entire game, thus you're trading not being able to control where you aim the first two turns, for minimal damage increase long term.
Love the editing! It seriously makes your already fantastic videos 500% better!
Damn gold orb and that last orb both look nuts! At this point Tyler should go for a multi all build, all the multi balls in one deck with multi ball relics😂
Noticed that the ballectrum only gained gold when the main(original) orb hits a peg, the multiball gold orbs never generated gold(understandably since it would be too op).
Mathematically, for the refresh relic to even out, one in five pegs would have to be refreshes. This means that, with 13 refreshes at the end of this video, the stable medium is only 65 pegs, which in the case of the QR code boss would be only half of one square.
For the relic to be "good" i'd have to imagine that at least a third of the board would be active at any given time - which in this case would require a total of 20 (!!) refreshes. I think the relic would be good if buffed to 16 refreshes instead of 10, and become very OP if buffed to 20+
You don't take the leaf because you want more opportunities to refresh pegs. You take the leaf because you want more opportunities to hit refreshes.
@@Schilani a crud you're right
I stopped watching in the middle to go out to work out for a few hours and now sitting here again, watching the rest of the video and drinking hot tea is like a paradise. Perfect expierience, would reccomend.
Electrum is a cool metal alloy I'm glad there's an orb named after it now :3
The leaf definitely needs a buff, the fact that it literally just removes most of your pegs over time is just pure negative, especially since you still need another relic to even hve the refreshes contribute to damage. The easy answer is to just make it like 5 or 6 pegs, or alternatively it could be like 1/10th of the total pegs on the board (or even spicier 1/10th of the pegs needing refreshing). Just SOMETHING to make it so you dont lose pegs
15:35 "Oh the bramball keeps it in place"
Yeah it.. it tends to do that
there is a major issue with trying to buff the leaf with adding more refreshes
that is - every additional refresh you add in would've been better had you not had the leaf
if a level has say 100 pegs, and you clear say 50 pegs on that board
with the leaf an additional refresh would only only bring you up to 54 pegs left on the board
while without the leaf your brought up to 100 pegs again
in order for the leaf to be good, you would need the leaf by itself to get you to a state where 25% of the pegs you hit are a refresh
you hit 3 pegs, then your orb hits the 4th peg you hit is a refresh getting you back to the original number of pegs again
if you need to get more refreshes from sources outside of the leaf, then you would've been better off without the leaf as that refresh would've been so much more valuable without the leaf
Conclusion - The leaf needs a buff
proposal for a buff - make the leaf act as a multiplier instead of a 1 time bonus
so how ever many refreshes you would have without the leaf, you get 10 times that many
this buff makes it so that the leaf isnt objectively hindering the buffs applied by other relics that are granting you more refreshes
or if you think the leaf should be a stand alone relic that doesnt like working with other relics, heres another proposal
proposal for a buff 2 - make the leaf give more refreshes
instead of 10 refreshes, which is certainly not enough refreshes
maybe make it give something like 20, 25, or even 50 refreshes!
aim for that 25% refreshes percentage!
the leaf is really good with refresh synergy, but outside of that it completely sucks, you can't just throw it into any build and expect it to work
you could have tried it with the refresh sword or whatever that refreshes the whole board on kill, but it might not actually refresh the board
The leaf's ass-ness is alleviated with refresh-the-board orbs like etherwheel and refreshorb, or relics like refresh on kill dagger and refresh on reload shield. Seek them out if you wanna take the leaf
26:38 THIS MAN DID NOT JUST PULL THE DOUBLE CZcamsR RELICS
I think leaf could work with Refreshing Punch, or whatever that relic that makes refresh pegs AOE is called. Then it could chain across the board.
That or Leaf needs a buff. Maybe change it to 10% pegs refreshed?
Given your leaf situation, you not even considering taking Necorbmancer at 24:16, or at least Morbidorb at 28:35, made me cry a little inside :(
i think they need to buff the leaf to at the very least 6 pegs per refresh. that might allow it to actually have some use
I feel like Leaf needs to have double value out of refreshes so like each is 8 to be worth it
26:35 nice how he had a choice between youtuber based relics lol
The leaf would combo well with morbid orbs and relic
the leaf is good for hard refresh synergy and nothing else.
The Leaf to me seems to work best with Morbid synergy strategies.
So Morbidorb and Bag of Orange Pegs.
and necorbmancer, but if it requires the worst orb in the game, why even bother
@@goober4347 Given that Necorbmancer can't hit Refresh Pegs, I wouldn't use it with this relic.
Feel like the leaf requires the “crits and refreshes contribute towards damage” otherwise your board is only 0 damage pegs
Love watching Tyler get pegged till he slimes
21:57 intentional misplay so that you net a +1 heal. 😂
I think the leaf relic needs to be percentage based. Something like 15% of the maximum number of pegs would maintain itself when the current number of pegs approaches 60%.
Leaf gets better with very specific synergies but other than that it's bad. I don't mind it, because boss relics are typically supposed to be give-and-take sorts of things, and it does open up the game to new possibilities.
For example, refreshing punch, strange brew, and the renewed vigorb are all things that work well with the leaf. I can imagine a crit build with light shaft potion might work really well since you've basically got +10 crits. There's also the refresh-muscircle build and, from that, the muscircle-ballwark build if you're using balladin. And of course, since pegs don't get refreshed very often, morbid synergy could always be an option.
5:45 "So awkward with its positioning, come on ball Rectum!" - Tyler, Sep 2023
hahaha great video, so close. lucky you did so much with the poltorbgeist otherwise who knows what could have happened. Editor's did great this video too Kyoumou.
Arigatou!! xiexie!! thank you
The wand of skultimate greed is actually just bad.