Jonathan Edwards Fired from His Church? | Joe Rigney & Doug Wilson
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Is it true that Jonathan Edwards was fired from his church over the issue of infant baptism?
Joe Rigney and Doug Wilson sit down to discuss the life, theology, and impact of Jonathan Edwards.
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What do you believe about baptism? Read Doug's book "To A Thousand Generations" to read an infant baptism perspective: canonpress.com/products/to-a-thousand-generations/
What a wonderful turn of events that Joe Rigney is not only a Padeo Baptists, and Presbyterian now. But is also apart of Christ church!
There is a sense in that responsible pastors do not want people taking communion to bring harm to themselves by taking it just culturally or "unworthily". The scriptures say that some were sick and had died for doing so,
It seems like the fact that the children in the OT were allowed/required to eat the Passover meal is a strong argument for the "strong bouncer" approach: Assume the child is a believer until they demonstrate otherwise.
Plus Jesus exhortation to let the little children come unto me and forbid them not, for such is the Kingdom of Heaven.
And participating in the communion table.
Well the context is missing here, which is civil Christendom. If you were walking along the street in Northampton when church was in its session you could be arrested for not being in church. So the enforcement obligations of Stoddard and Edwards were both civil and theoliogical.
Can someone explain this to me? I have no reference for what these guys are talking about. Are they saying that Edwards was fired for partially rejecting "cultural christianity" in favor of biblical Christianity?
His firing took a second place subject, the main point became not to reject people based on their not yet fruitful path, but always be ready to apply correction, without this the Church has no immunity, also their situation, mainly of ignorance, can be overcome by prayer, gentle guidance and of course, once again, discipline.
I think he wanted to be sure people were really "born again" by the Spirit of God (John 3:3-7) with evidence (fruit) of a changed life from what they were before, and not just a church member who attends in a social and cultural way because their family does, or may have been "raised in the church" but have never had a deep work of God in their soul. He did not want people to partake of communion "unworthily".
Romans 8:9 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his."
The Lord's Supper
1 Coritnians 11:
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come. 27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
The tares look too much like the wheat to determine genuine salvation.
The weird doctrines we sometimes e're in professing! Lol This reminds me of the way we view circumcision, in my culture. Weird. Not the salvific part but the cultural aspect.
interesting