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All those juicy photos will make your version a real Deja vu experience every time you see it.
Hi David. i agree there are juicy just what i needed for the coming project. take care. Tony.
Half the fun is researching old photos and putting the information together for the build. Looking forward to the project.
Thank you Keith. what you have said is true. these photos are key to whether or not the station comes together right or wrong... i am hoping for 80% accuracy. but will shall see. many thanks for commenting. all the best Tony.
Sunday video , another treat. It’s really fascinating to see these old buildings, proper craftsmanship back in the day. This is going to be a must watch build, thanks again Tony.
Glad you enjoyed it Mr Rock n Roll. i am looking forward to creating something just a bit special here. thank you for commenting. Tony.
Good morning Tony. Fascinating pictures . All the best Peter.
Thank you Peter. i am just glad i have enough photos to do the build that is about to take place...thanks again Tony.
A very impressive map of Tyne dock and fantastic research! Always helps to have a good collection of photos 😊👍 Looking forward to seeing your build. Keep up the great work 👍👍
Many thanks! Yes i agree. there is a lot of work ahead of me with this build so its important to take what i can from the photos. if i am going to achieve my goals of building this station. many thanks Tony.
Plenty of food for thought for the build of Tyne Dock Tony, social media and old books are a great sauce of information. Looking forward to the next stage of the build and nearly forgot great to hear from Mrs T cheers for now regards Barry..🤞🍺
Absolutely Barry. i only wish there was more photos. like the booking office. and station masters office. these will have to be second guessed. but its going to be fun. cheer's my friend/. Tony.
What a great video Tony. Firstly, I must say how good it was to hear from Lady T. She sounds like she’s doing well. You have amassed a great amount of research to get yourself started, and I now appreciate why you felt the need to revisit this part of the layout. I look forward to keeping up with this project. Thanks for sharing. Roy.
Absolutely Roy. i am glad you see why i must do this. as it brings the whole area in line on what going on in other areas.
Mrs T is doing really well and she is looking to getting back to normal. thanks again for your kind words. cheer's for now Tony.
Good morning from Ireland, Tony. Layout looking good.
Hello Scottmneil. its great to see you at the start of this new build. many thanks Tony.
We finally get to hear Mrs T. She has a very beautiful voice. Glad to hear she is doing well, as is Mrs L (Janet). Last year she had a neck injury and a mastectomy. But all heeled up. I knew that you would find the research needed for Tyne Dock Station. Can't wait to see you begin the build. The canopy looks to be as challenging as the one at South Shields. It will be interesting to see how you mix the colours just right. Your California friends, Bill & Janet.
Hello Bill & Janet. thank you kindly for your comment. That is what Laura had a Mastectomy and reconstruction 6 weeks ago. and she is doing really well. life seems to be getting back on track, fingers crossed. but the railway has always got me through the tough times. and even answering comments is also a form of therapy.
The platform is coming along well with an interesting feature at the centre, see you Friday take care and look after yourselves. cheer's Tony & Laura.
Hi Tony, fascinating research and looks like an interesting build ahead, Those books and other pictures are so evocative of a bygone age. Thoroughly looking forward to the build. All the best.
Good morning David. i just can not wait to get stuck into this project. platform has already been started and hopefully the video will be out this Friday...many thanks again. Tony.
This looks like turning into one of your amazing builds. The detail is very nice. I'm looking forward to it all 😊
Thank you! 😄Martyn. there is a lot of detail to be added, but we will get. the journey has already started. cheer's for now my friend. Tony.
Hi Tony, the first photo showing the end of the station where the underpass comes up with railings and the wall of windows and windbreak panel is so distinctive , I think that would be good to reproduce as the position where the underpass emerges rather than the middle of the platform. It's such a unique feature, that and the canopy would scream Tyne Dock, even if the rest of the building wasn't that accurate. It's the unusual features that identify the place. Gotta go, I'm off to see my grandmother, got half dozen eggs for her, hahaha, keep up the Brilliant work, love this layout, cheers, Rich
Hi Rich. I will put in as much detail from these photos. and i like your ideas. the wind break would as you rightly say give that distinctive look.
The under passes will coming up through the centre of the platform. as it will allow more space for the rest of the building. and the two huts that we see in the main photo. compromises. and it will have that look about it. to define as Tyne Dock. i hope... wishful thinking but we shall see. cheer's for now Tony.
Great video, TOny! I love the research and history behind this new project you are presenting. Also, an epic opening running shot!
Hello Anthony & Joyce. Without the research i would be clueless to be honest. but these set of photos i take bits and pieces and make a station worthy of being called Tyne Dock. but we shall see. take care all the very best Tony & Laura.
That station has some wonderful features. The canopy looks like a job and a haft. Good luck. Martin. (Thailand)
Thank you for commenting Martin. it going to be challenge. so it will be interesting to see how it turns out. thanks again Tony.
Hi Tony,
The photo's you have for this build is it more than you have for your work or less but it will be fun seeing you make another fantastic roof again so well done will watch to see it come to life.
Cheers Robert.
Thank you Robert. the photos i have is just enough. as they cover all four sides of the station. but more would have better. that's the thing with forgotten stations. there's never enough information. take care my friend. Tony.
An interesting video, Tony. It certainly looks like you're going to be busy recreating the scene. Looking forward to following your progress... Cheers James 🙂👍
welcome aboard this journey.....many thanks Tony.
That is a totally inspirational set of photographs you've got of Tyne Dock, your going to be able to do a good representation of the station. What is sad is seeing the decline set in, but I suppose that's what they call progress!! Still you're going to restore Tyne Dock to its former glory. It was nice to hear Mrs T. I'm back in Devon now got home about 8ish last night and watched Beyond Paradise, on BBC (recorded) and the story featured quite a bit of the South Devon railway my local heritage railway, it was filmed last summer. Have a good productive week really looking forward to seeing all the detail. Take care both, Eddy and my lot,xxx
Good evening Eddy. i think there is enough detail there to build this station. obviously there will be the usual TNE spin on the build. but the main character of this station will be present. I will have to watch that episode of Beyond paradise. take care my friends and stay safe from Tony & Laura.
Great to see that you have a fair few old photos to give you info and inspiration. That police station looks like a fantastic idea for a build. It reminds me a little of the old Railway Hotel (long gone) in Aylesbury, was once referred to by Pevsner as “an engaging little horror“ 😅
Glad you enjoyed it Rick. i am hoping i do this station some justice. thanks again for commenting. Tony.
Lots of great research you’ve got Tony looks like it’ll be a great build . Keeping you out of mischief 😊😎👌☕️
Fingers crossed Fred. i hope so. take care. Tony & Laura.
Hi Tony love the old photo's. Really looking forward to the series my friend.
Glad you like them Steve. i am just glad that i had some help. otherwise i would have struggled to get an idea of what the station looked like. as my own memory as a 6 year box at Tyne dock station has faded. so yes i do remember the underpasses and the long ramp. and that's just about it. until next time my friend. take care Tony.
Reminds me of the back of Kings Cross station.. a platform long gone but I can still smell it.
Hi Andy mate. i like your thoughts. and i know what you mean. take care Tony.
Dear Tony, now that’s some very interesting information and set of photographs and books! Love the mutual effort which already has set the stage for the Tyne Dock station project. As a model North Eastern enthusiast I sincerely appreciate all the efforts to dish up the background information on the history of the station.
Absolutely marvelous you’re going to add the subway entrances to the station. Especially with the white glazed brick, or the tiles as you said, it will create a next dimension beneath the surface of the tracks. Love the entrance under the bridges. Am very curious how that’s gonna look on the layout.
On the different photos of the ‘wind breaker’ side, presumably above the station’s entrance stairway, from the lower level subway upward to the platforms; there’s two versions. One which shows a set of, what looks like, steel doors, in line with the articulated fascia board around the roof line. The other version shows a wooden outcrop at and around the location of the steel doors. The outcrop built in similar fashion and colors as the line side hut, closer to the end of the platform.
Am kinda curious about those steel doors, seems like they gave access to the space above the station’s entrance stairway, maybe in such a way goods could be hoisted up or down. Why else would there be such large doors above the staircase? Do think the version with the outcrop also looks very interesting. Would say it depends on the overall footprint of the station and its canopy to see which version deserves the modeling effort.
What I especially like about the canopy is the fact that the construction is perpendicular to the tracks. That will create both a very interesting build and will shed light on the platforms in a very specific way. Absolutely agree on your point about the cast iron columns, also being in use as a drainpipe. With all the apexes and valley gutters of the canopy, this will indeed be a great way to collect the water from the different roof surfaces. Am very curious for the next episodes.
Please give my regards to Mrs. T.
Cheerio, my master builder friend Tony!
Hi Vincent, not at lot go on, south shields was well photographed. but at least we a good idea on what Tyne Dock looked like. thanks again for commenting. cheer's for now my friend. Tony.
Looking forward to this build, Tony. Amazing shape to work with. And with your skills I'm sure you will produce something special. ATB to you both.Stuart
Thank you Stuart for commenting. even at this moment i am still not sure how this is going to turn out. thanks again and stay safe my friend. Tony.
Lots of lovely references Tony. I just know this is gonna be another epic masterpiece and am very much looking forward to progress. Interesting design too.. All the best to you both, Chris n Jules
Good morning Chris. like you have said lots of references to use for this project. the design will be tricky as to try and incorporate as much detail from these photos to make look and feel like Tyne Dock. take care best wishes from Tony & Laura.
very interesting project Tony, looking forward to see Tyne dock develop.
So far so good as they say...many thanks for commenting. Tony.
Awesome Tony!!! I like the total rebuild very much!! Keep up the good work mate!!
Thanks a ton! Onno. thank you for stopping by. cheer's for now Tony.
Hi Tony! I really like how you've researched the build of Tyne Dock, and have absorbed the little details before beginning to construct the buildings, platforms and surrounding infrastructure! I've currently got a couple of books on order dealing with railway stations and railway architecture that I'm hoping to get some inspiration from when I come to building stuff! It'll also be interesting to see if I can adopt some of your techniques in N scale! :) All the best, Ian.
Hi Ian, i see you have been watching a lot of back issues. i do recommend researching the subject before taking on a project. this station has very few photos to work with. but i will pick out the best features and add them to the build.
i do envy you guys who work N gauge. my eyes and chubby fingers may struggle a bit with that scale. take care my friend. Tony.
Great research material Tony. Reminds me a lot of the main station in my town, Dumbarton Central, which has two islands accessed by underpasses (well one underpass that serves both). Over time it has become what you have just removed in Part 1, as the outer lines, one is disused and overgrown and the other is used rarely for the seasonal West Highland Line "posh" trains.
Interesting topic Dave. maybe if all the station were used to there full potential then there would no congestion on our roads. Posh Trains now thats got me thinking. thanks again for commenting. cheer's for now Tony.
That was one pale cup of tea, looked more like a milky coffee 😂
Its just how i like it. lol. cheer's Tony.
Following this layout alteration with fascination, interesting that the b&w photo of the hunslet and brake van indicates that the whole platform was on a curve with no straight platform as shown on the plan!
Good morning. Love the comment. your right the station was on a curve as it turned away to head towards High Shields.
In order for me to do that i would have to give up the main and use the whole of the Baseboard, i think this is a small compromise to make, don't you think. but we shall when we start to build the station. many thanks again. cheer's Tony.
This is quite a task you have set for yourself but I'm sure we'll see the proverbial Phoenix rise from the ashes. In Derby, the city where I was born and brought up, we had a similar station in a place called Friar Gate. It was a climb to get to it and I think one of the entrances was up through an underpass. I can't be sure though and being just a little boy I image the climb was not really as steep as I now remember it. On one of the pictures you show there is a run of terraced houses behind the station. they would make a good backdrop to the station. Thanks again.
Hello Alfie. i do like to set myself these challenges just see what can be done. i do think this should a better station than what we had there before. thanks again my friend. Tony.
Hi Tony, just a suggestion on your track layout. If possible move the crossovers back off the bridge. Not sure if there is room to do this but there may be. Move the running line to use the disused siding layout. You could then remove the centre of the bridge to see the proposed entrance. It will also give you more room for your wooden buildings.
Interesting Idea. The only problem i have with that is the wooden supports with the interfere point motors. space could be another issue. as it is close to the curve. but yes i will be building those small buildings. and added them in somewhere.. cheer;s for now Tony
Am glad Mrs t
Is doing well
I did or have sent you pictures in the past.
Keep safe ARP
Hi Adi mate. yes you have done my friend. i hope all is ok. we must catch up soon. cheer's for now Tony.
Hi Tony, just came across your video and I would just like to say that I am very pleased to see what you have managed to pull together by way of photographs and stuff. I look forwards to seeing progress over the coming months, all being well, that is. Best, Jason.
Hello Jason my friend. I think i have enough to recreate something. but as always i will add a few bits of my own. take care all the best Tony.
Nice research Tony, it’s amazing what our can pick out of the photos when you look closely. The underpasses certainly will add to the scene. I liked to see the white building next to the hotel, in earlier days window frames and surrounds were black, which makes the building look quite elegant. Later on as the station is less used they white wash (cheap/ low cost and loss of pride?) everything making it look like a box, what a transformation. Nice to hear all the Ts over tea too! All the best to you both Stephen.
PS Am on with the CAD, a lot of detail and seen a big improvement I can hopefully do to the layout, pays to come back fresh. Actually spending a lot of time on it too!
Good evening Stephen, there are some really good builds ahead. i do like the Port Of Tyne Police Station. that is a must builds once the two stations are finished. Thanks again for your kind words. and Mrs T says hi & Thankyou for the well wishes. take care my friend. give my regards to Celia...Tony & Laura.
@@TONYNORTHEASTERN Good morning Tony and Laura! No problem, I know how much work goes into doing things like this. It can be totally absorbing, but if you want something done right well you just have to put in the effort. Oh is it the police station? I did have a look through my books but none Tyne Dock, have Leeds, York, Skipton and some going back to 1935. It’s great folk could help you out with those rare photos.
Great to hear Mrs T is doing well, it will take a long time to fully recover as you mentioned earlier. Just back from a long quarterly round 270 mile shopping trip to Regina, saved a absolute fortune (more to spend on our hobbies), its -10 deg C, been glorious sun whilst there, but just started to snow as unloaded truck - a very long day and a break from the CAD. Time to go for a walk with Rossi and turn in! Take care, all the best Celia and Stephen.
A fantastic and very informative collection of pics there, certainly will be a great help with your build. Ill look forward to seejng how you go about it.
Good evening John. i just hope i can do the station justice. many thanks for commenting my friend. Tony.
@@TONYNORTHEASTERN it’ll be amazing Tony, just like or better than South Shields was. That is a stunning piece of art/ modelling.
Tony, It appears that the sleeper-built hut had no windows, so I think it was most likely an oil store, somewhere to keep the oil for the signal lamps, etc. If it was a hut for workmen/platelayers/staff it would have had windows and a chimney.
I agree with you Henry. and i will surely be adding this little hut to the layout. many thanks for commenting. cheer's for now Tony.
Tony Checked out The Railtour Website Six Bells Junction The North Eastern Railtour ran in September 1963. 63460 worked from Newcastle Central to Tyne Dock & South Shields then back to Consett & Bishop Auckland on 28/9/63. With some more photos. 63460 was a Q7 which is preserved. Ian
Thank you Ian some very interesting facts. thank you for commenting. nice one. Tony.
Hi Tony.
Brilliant research and some fantastic photos.
Your technical skills are superb, can I borrow your brain for a while.🤔
Going to be superb when you get started. However still did like the old platform.😏
Thanks Tony.
....Pete....
Hi Pete i am really hoping that i have not made a big mistake here, taking down the old station. one good thing there will be no speeding trains through tyne dock anymore due to the curves in and out of the station...cheer's for now Tony.
Marvellous! It's strange how the North Eastern Region despite having Tangerine [Orange?] colours for signs etc the buildings were blue and white as in the photo,
It was the colour scheme for the 1950s. The Grosmont station on the Yorkshire moors is decorated in the same colour's . thank you for commenting. cheer's Tony.
Hi Tony, an unexpected treat seeing Part 2 appear. The photo of the underpass coming in from the street struck me as interesting, with that plain doorway into the lovely curved tile walls of the underpass, I wonder if that curved wall ever had a roof to it. I'm guessing the doorway is at street level, almost platform level, so the underpass had to go down under the tracks. At first glance seeing the "platelayers hut" I thought it might be a shed for one of those little Wickham Trolleys, but a later photo of the railtour train clearly shows that isn't the case. I wonder what it was used for? Anyway, really looking forward to seeing part 3.
That's the thing with some of these photos they do keep you guessing. unless you are there at the time. it is very hard to say. Wickham trolleys were kept in huts i agree. but my guess is oil stores for the lamps. or even a tools shed for the plater layers. and the hut behind was there rest areas. who knows, many thanks again for commenting. cheer's for now Tony.
Nice work Tony, research will pay of, I`ll have a look in my old books if I can get to them there might be some nuggets of info for your area.
Hi Clive. i do like those golden nuggets.. Lol. i think the title photo of tyne dock steals it for me. as there is so many possibilities for the smaller builds to be had here...thanks again for commenting. cheer's Tony.
Does the Flying Scotsman had had really a double tender??😮
Dear Tony, Not to bother you but I think it is worth mentioning:
When you look on the very left side of the underway's wall over the handrail there is a white marking - clearly standing apart from the tiles colour: So by this the tiles cannot be White, the must be a bit darker... I would take something like a light cream, light grey, or Most likely due to the colours photo you did show to us before a kind of light blue. Or I am wrong and you do figure about it is just a rectangular spot of sunligth irritating myself.
For the "empty corner" I would suggest
I. a piece of an overgrown siderail/longer catchrail to park locomotives. By this you add a lower area to the rising platforms buildings &c. giving the Scene some more interest.
II.
Or you do scratchbuilding a very big tree for this corner as the very end of a place for sheeps or pigs.
Hopefully my stuff is helpfulll; best wishes to your wife Dame T.
Christian
Good evening Christian. the flying Scotsman did have two tenders at some point in her history. especially when she did the big tours. thank you for the tips. i am i will use them for the final finishing touches. cheer's for now my friend. Tony.
Good video
Glad you enjoyed Josh. and welcome back. cheer's Tony.
Hi, Tony, take a look at time stamp 12-24, there's a hint of what could be a chimney pot to the right of the fourth chimney... Could there possibly have been five chimneys and not four? If not then this might be evidence of another building at the otherside of the station.... Just a thought....!
Hi ken. thank you for your thoughts. you could be right. its worth thinking about when i start the planning of the station. cheer's for now Tony.
Tony the Tyne dock police station appears to be the same as the one by the customs house at Mill dam that was the river police station
It Is Peter. but what i like about the building is its size it could fit in that space where the old station use to be. i do think it would make a great addition to the layout...many thanks for commenting. cheer's for now Tony.
The light blue paint on the building. The nearest colour match to BR Eastern region blue is Citadel’s Bahemoth blue. Not sure of spelling.
Hi Dave. thank you for the tip. don't worry much about the speeling i have similar trouble sometimes. not getting my words out. cheer's for now my friend. Tony.
Tony, another enjoyable video. In the photo of the underside of the canopy, is there a water fountain just beyond the door and block up window?
Hi Andrew. i don't thing i had seen the water fountain. thank you for the heads. i will certainly be taking a closer look. thanks again. cheer's Tony.
That's a thoughtful bit of research. Thanks for sharing it. Did the station have anything to do with Tyne Dock and the shipping industry?
Hi Kevin. thank you for commenting. its always great to hear from you. Tyne Dock Had an Iron ore Staithe complex, A massive Wood Yard. and there was McNulties ship yard. i could imagine hundreds of workers getting on and off the trains at Tyne Dock back in the day. so yes you are spot on. many thanks again Tony.
P.s Mc Nulties ship yard is still going. but they repair Oil Rigs now.
Hi Tony, would those white-faced bricks on the underpass have been ceramic faced, or as we know them in Glasgow, "Wally bricks"? This would make for a gloss surface rather than a matt finish on the walls.
Ah Wally bricks. i have not heard of that one before. i might use that in a video. if i can remember. wally bricks. cheer's for now Tony. brilliant comment.
For me its had to picture where old Tyne Dock station was as ive only ever known the Metro station which as of the time of writing this comment (24th March 2024) is celebrating its 40th Birthday
Hi Tez i did remember the old station as i was very young lad going up to Newcastle. and we got the train from Tyne Dock. the next i use Tyne Dock was when the metro came in. happy days. those 40 years have flown by...cheer's for now Tony.
What about the Arches
Hi Brian. to do the arches would mean a whole new baseboard. i would love to do those. but for now its the station that i am interested in. but great point my friend. cheer's for now Tony.