@@BlueToronto Unfortunately it's been 5 MP for the past 4 generations at least (it was 5 MP probably on SP3 or earlier as well). We need some upgrades at some point.
@@raresmacovei8382 Perhaps, but I've done a lot of looking around and there are barely any tablets/laptops that can match or come close to matching 1080p let alone 5MP. Tons and tons of machines with 720p and maybe 2MP tops.
TheDeathmail for the form factor I think it’s fine. Really the only nitpick is another USBA port to replace the Mini DisplayPort, because USBC does the same function and usb a is still more useful than having two usb c ports.
Chuzz Bot yea lol I am aware of the metric system. Is it a pity he didn’t include the thermals in c°? Yes. Stop acting like everyone from the US is blinded from the rest of the world.
I just upgraded from a SP4, and it's a pretty significant upgrade. I'm also going from the i5 on the SP4, to an i7 on the SP7, and from 8gb ram to 16gb. So I expect this machine to feel lightyears ahead of what I was using. Put those things together with the tenth gen processors, better thermals, faster graphics and much better IO, and I'm feeling pretty good about everything. I really, really, REALLY wanted the SPX. But as good as it looks, performance is EVERYTHING, and an ARM chip is a deal breaker. Maybe in two years...
Ooff... Might not have been the best choice on the SKU there. The i7 on the SP7 was a MASSIVE rip-off!!! Unlike previous gens of Intel CPU's both the 10th Gen i7's AND the i5's have full "SMT" or what Intel calls "hyper-threading" support, meaning i5's & i7's are BOTH 4-core/8-thread CPU's! (And thus in terms of raw CPU performance the 10th Gen i5's & i7's are basically IDENTICAL [the latter just has ever so slightly higher clock-speeds.... that's it]). Every generation before that had the i5's WITHOUT SMT, meaning they were only 4-core/4-thread CPU's and thus significantly slower than the i7's! With 10th Gen though? The only major upgrade on the i7's was now the bigger Iris iGPU with the full 64x "EU's" ("Execution Units", think Nvidia's "SM's" or AMD's "CU's") versus "just" 48x of them on the i5's. That said, the i7's iGPU performance isn't +25% better like you'd expect from the sheer +25% iGPU size increase, but only more like +10-20% sadly. Making getting the pricier & fan requiring i7 model even more silly. The ONLY reason I can see where the SP7 (& 7+/8 too) i7 models make ANY kind of sense are for those that will be regularly running long length (>=5-10min) 100% system load workloads like video or CG rendering. And the reason to get the i7 ISN'T the bare/y faster chip itself BUT the inclusion of active cooling with a fan! That will help it SIGNIFICANTLY with avoiding thermal throttling for those really long 100% load tasks.
Did they finally upgrade the Wi-Fi chip? I absolutely love my SP6, but one thing that some users have complained about for the last few gens is the Wi-Fi chip (or maybe it's just the processor) particularly with Windows Updates and installing apps/updates. Browsing is fast, but installing/updating takes forever.
We want LTE added. It feels like they are witholding that feature to push the Pro X. There hasn't been an LTE Pro since the Pro 5. Other manufacturers have already done it without the massive battery hit so it's really just a company decision
"It feels like they are witholding that feature to push the Pro X. " Oh, absolutely. And agree, I'd like a Pro with LTE, but I think they're trying to keep these product lines distinct in a few ways so they can push Pro X.
Hi, thanks for the video! Do you think Adobe Premiere Pro will work? (i'm not specially expecting high 4k performances, just running the software in a normal use :) ) If yes, which set up / combination would you recommand (Go, RAM, i7 or i5...) Thanks in advance :D
Surface Pro 7 = awesome (on paper) might try it over my 4 but my 4 rocks will make a trip or two to MS Store to test like I did when I bought the Pro 4 I use my Pro 4 every single day
@@hi-ro1vo Hey not sure if you’ve got one already or whatnot but I have a Pro 5 i5 with 8gb ram and it works perfectly fine! Can even do some light gaming on it (played through Portal 2 on it) . It’ll be great for school work and most things really :D
Hey everyone! I'm going to be upgrading to the Pro 7 very soon. In addition to some of my basic productivity with Office, I'll be building landing pages through SquareSpace, Wix, and ClickFunnels. Can I get away with an i5, or do I need an i7? I look forward to hearing what people have to say.
@@teamrabbitalec It's changed a few times but I thought every keyboard since the 4 or 5 has been the same. How can one tell the 7 Type cover from the previous, they just say Type cover online?
I recently bought the pro 7 i7. Is it worth it to keep or return? Upgraded from pro 3 i5 since my keyboard is no longer recognized by the the tablet for some reason.
I'm a digital artist, and prefer the Surface Slim Pen significantly better than the regular Surface Pen. I recommend getting that if you can. They designed it like a drafting pencil.
Are you sure you can charge it via USB C? You're the first reviewer that mentioned that. I thought charging had to be done via the proprietary Microsoft port.
I just don't get the concept of a magnetic pen holder. You couldn't travel or even walk around the office with it like that because the slightest bump would knock it off, right? Is the use-case just for a convenient and consistent place to put in during use? Probably my favorite feature of my Samsung Note 10.1 tablet is the built in pen sleeve.
Thank you Mr. Rubino, very good review. I think I will wait till 2020, my surf pr9 6 works fine. I got spoiled with the I5 quad core processor so spending the $150 might be a stretch. However, the upgrade from 8th Gen Kaby Lake to 10th Gen Ice lake is something to think about,
The difference in CPU power is nonexistent. It's only the GPU that is about twice as fast. It's not a worthwhile upgrade. SP7+ isn't worth am upgrade from the SP6 either.
The oled panel currently being used by other manufactures is the same Samsung panel configured differently. There have been many problems reported with it. First gen woes I suppose, so not throwing a faulty oled on this machine was a good move.
@@WindowsCentral Quick question, are you aware if the new Razer Studio Edition is using the 2nd gen oled panel? I'm not exactly sure how to check. Thank you in advance.
As a desktop user who also has a Surface the biggest downside to the Surface and the reason I still have to keep my desktop is that the Surface can only add 2 external monitors. My 7 yr old Dell PC can run 3 very big ones. With the Surface I'd have to use the small Surface monitor as my 3rd monitor which is a significant downgrade to what I've been using for over 10 years.
Yeah, I'm waiting for artist review for it. Though sadly I don't get my hopes up since Microsoft themselves never seem to market any improvements on it. They focused on Surface Slim Pen instead which we yet to see get reviewed by Dan.
I tried the Surface GO and it crashed and then Best Buy moved me to the Surface Pro 7 and THAT is a REAL computer...love it! Love the USB-A and USB-C connectivity...it's fast, like the reviewer mentioned. I use Office 365 personal on it and the Power Point with video and audio works beautifully. My old PowerPoint 2007 presentations wherein I use video clips, etc., they come up right away..no lag. This is a honey of a computer and the portability is tops! Keyboard case (I have the standard black) and it works great. I bought the Surface Pro 7 with 128 gigs of storage and with the micro SD portability I have plenty of the storage. I paid $799 WITH the keyboard case at Best Buy. I would heartily recommend this super portable computer that does everything the bigger, heavier "big boys" do.
But what about screen bleeding? Literally every SP6 I've owned and used in a store had insane screen bleeding, particularly along the bottom edge to where it was noticeable regardless of what was being displayed.
Martin Robson But it would then pose a new problem: screen burn-in. OLED’s simply not worth it for computers where there’s a higher risk of prolonged images.
@@martinrobson6120 And those OLED tablets and phone have screen burn in. My 6 month old Samsung tablet had to be replaced due to severe screen burn in.
I love my surface and have been waiting for usb-c for so long However, its not thunderbolt 3 so i have 0 reason to upgrade. Was hoping to hook it up to a GPU when i get home. blegh
I am excited by the 7. I really use SQL Management Studio and Visual Studio 2019 a lot so the power is very welcome. I do love the look of the Surface Pro X, yet no one has said if you can use it as a developer. Will it even run Visual Studio 2019?
@@KataMatthaion No 64-bit (X86) apps means it cannot run Adobe Creative Cloud apps. What a shame. I love the ProX form factor and the slim pen. Wish Pro 7 had the same form factor as ProX.
That is perfect Apple fanboy logic. There is no reason to own an iPad because they can't run MacOS applications which means you are limited to 1.9 million smartphone apps. SP5 runs 35 million Windows computer applications. End of story...
I have a Surface GO. Should I upgrade to a Surface Pro 7? I am also planning on getting a Macbook Pro 13 2020. I also have a basic 128gb ipad 2018. Please Help.
Thanks for review man, been waiting for this review. I dont care about surf X i think its similar to ipad, i need a real computer but still confuse, should i take sp7 or sp6 (with lower price)
nauval toumy SP6 has wifi issues but with SP7 you get wifi 6 and Bluetooth 5 , so I’ll recommend you to take SP7 since the whole purpose of this device is the portability that it offers.
Hi Daniel, thx for the presentation! I'd like to ask you if you think that this machine is able to perform the MS Office apps in really good quality and speed. I mean extensive Excel sheets, large PowePoint presentations, etc. Is it worth to replace the top model of Lenovo Yoga with i7 with this machine? Thanks a lot, Peter
Great review! Does the MS keyboard use bluetooth? How does the surface pro 7 compare to the laptop 3 for productivity & seeing detail, working in Word & Excel?
No, it doesn't support Bluetooth but there are aftermarket keyboard that offer that. If you care about performance, having better display, longer battery life, be able to upgrade internal parts, and better audio then go with Surface Laptop But if you want to have lighter device, be able to use the pen (taking note or draw), having SD Card port, be able to hold it on your hand to read books easily, basically be able to use as a tablet when you need it then go with Surface Pro
So I'm thinking about getting a laptop/2 in 1 for school and want a surface product. What are the pros and cons between buying a surface book 2 vs. The surface pro line? Is it just specs?
It's a shame they didn't make the effort to also integrate the stylus pen rechargeable stow away-booth just like with the new Microsoft Surface X. It would make it almost perfect 😅
I still don't understand why Microsoft goes so slow regarding updates on the SP. Yes, there are improvements but they are not enough for you to say "woa, they nailed it!" They are more like unavoidable updates, not really new significant updates. Migrating to a more recent Bluetooth, for instance, should be a given not something I should be thankful! In the end, consumers end-up buying it because they are used to, they are tired of waiting for THE one and finally want to have/use a SP....or simply they do not buy it and wait another year. Worst, now, they have shown SP X, which demonstrate that great changes can be done (bezels, pen solution, size), disregard of what's under the hood. Why should we accept the dated looks! Sorry Daniel, not even you seem that excited with the SP7.
I find it funny that people still complain about Thunderbolt 3. From a business and user perspective TB3 has been a total marketing disaster. First lets start with the fact that Thunderbolt 3 is not stable, anyone who has actually used TB3 will tell you this, hot plugging devices is a gamble and when it fails to come up the resolution is usually to reboot your PC numerous times until it works, this is especially true with TB docks. Thunderbolt was a POC from Intel originally called light peak and was based on using and optical cable, but then Apple took it and made the copper connector to try and lessen the cost and used it with the mini DP connector and had some moderate success but ultimately sold it back to Intel where it was combined with USB-C using the connector. Peripherals are hugely expensive, not to mention other than for smartphones, the USB type C connector hasn't reached the ubiquity level of the Type A connector. I have the surface book 2 and surface go, on both devices I have a type-C to type A dongle just so I can do something useful with both of those ports.
bmbell71 I have a first gen Thunderbolt iMac and when the drive went I just hooked up a USB-C caddy with an SSD in and cloned my drive to the caddy and booted from there. No issues with sleep or crashes, and I set this up over three years ago and still works great. Was a lot faster than the HD in the iMac and was cheaper than replacing the old HD with a new HD! Since then I have been an advocate of Thunderbolt and it allows super fast transfer of files. For instance the family have about 6 Macs and to update each I just download the 5gb MacOS Catalina onto an external TB drive and transfer quickly. I also clone my drive on the TB Samsung external SSD so any new computer it is quick and easy to set up. We also have an eGPU that connects to the newer Macs to allow a boost to intensive work. I have been using for years and it is a sad state that in 2019 Microsoft cannot put one in a $2000 top spec SP7. Having fully accepted TB and gone all in I could never go back to USB-A. All my USB-A accessories can plug into a USB-C dock or for $5 a dongle. There is no excuse apart from that MS and Windows continues to be slow to adopt new tech.
You can't outperform the speed of the protocol, if you plugged in a USB-C caddy it was running as a USB-C device, that's how TB3 works it negotitates the protocol for the device that's connected. Addtionally there are further complications in TB3's implementation, first off depending on what cable you are using, TB3 or USB-C there are different transmission speeds and they are not all compatible. There's a 40Gbps TB3 cable and a 20Gbps, similarly there's a 10Gbps USBc and a 5Gbps cable, all these cables look the same. Adding to confusion is the promised backward compatibility with TB2 and TB1 devices, Don't believe me? Go read the 2 star reviews on Apple's TB3 to TB2 dongle. The big area where TB got some traction was in the audio world where latency with USB was a huge problem and TB seemed like it offered a better solution to older FW devices. Guess what most of these companies went with TB2 due to compatibility with older mac's only to find that the spec changed and now people are having issues with their devices. Not to mention apple isn't even compatible with the Texas Instruments TB3 controller. Thunderbolt is a great idea in theory, but was a half baked implementation that has never gained traction in the market. It doesn't matter how fast or cool it is. Thunderbolt is the "Betamax" of peripheral controllers.
Because there're a lot of "unstable" thunderbolt 3 peripherals and cables out there does not mean that it's impossible to find good ones?? There are actually quite a few of good, stables, and proven TB3 products out there ranging from DAS solutions, eGPU docks, 4k/5k monitors that we're been using days in days out for the last couple years. There simply is no excuse for lacking it in the latest range of products.
@@Duckstalker1340 I never said you couldn't find any, I said performance is sporadic and compatibility is an even bigger issue. Market share is only around 2%. The move to go to USB-C connector was one of desperation as a technology that is viewed largely as an expensive apple proprietary protocol even though Apple sold it's stake to Intel. Actually the later fact should tell you everything you need to know about where it's headed, aka the route of FireWire.
So I just got my new Yoga C940 14" (i7, 16GB, 1080p) last week. And after the first week, I have to admit, that it's just a stellar device. But I'm still really interested in what you have to say about it. I suppose a review is still coming? :)
Yup. C930 was one of my top/most recommended laptops of 2018, so C940 only improves upon it. We don't have it yet, so a few weeks out, but I'll definitely review it. And congrats!
I got the i5, 8GB, 256 version. I work in IT and have 6 computers of my own. This SP7 is to replace my 13” Dell XPS laptop. I didn’t get the i7 due to no real need for more power.
@@princesaleia0079 technology usually doesnt work this way. The 8 could be cheaper to make, because they might have figured a better way to produce. Or minimize redundant material. But look out for sales.. black friday?
Pro 6 lacks USB C, Intel Iris Pro Graphics. And it runs on an Intel CPU TWO GENERATIONS behind (8th gen) the Intel 10th gen Ice Lake processor. Ice lake and Ice blue (type cover) cute names.
I am really tempted by Surface Pro X but my Surface Pro 5 is still running good... sometimes I wish my tech broke so I can replace it but it mostly refuses to!
Hi 👋 there...I have used windows laptop as well as MacBook Air in the past...I switched from MacBook Air to surface pro 3 for the pen 🖊 pen functionality and one note...But Microsoft discontinued desktop onenote for the onenote app and the latter was superior to the former in many respects except one that the app version of onenote force you to buy OneDrive as it doesn’t give you an option to create notebooks in your local drive...Apart from this, you don’t have any other decent apps in Windows environment for note taking and annotating pdf documents...And it’s extremely frustrating...On the other side, iPad have tons and tons of great apps like notability,GoodNotes,LiquidText,pdf expert etc etc which are dream apps for anybody who like digital note taking and annotating PDFs...I am deliberately avoiding the hardware side where I find Apple Pencil and iPads better than surface pen and surface pro devices... One area where surface outshines iPad is that the former gives you full desktop experience of windows 10 vs iPad os limitations but I tell you that these lines are also blurring with the iPad os in which Apple has added desktop safari as well as ability to connect external drives with the revamped files app. Don’t get me wrong: I want Microsoft to succeed and the first step they can take is to give option of creating notebooks locally on computer hard drives in onenote app...Secondly, Microsoft must get these developers of notability,pdf exert and LiquidText etc (I have heard that liquid text is coming out for windows very soon which is a very good thing!) on board to make their apps available for surface devices and these must work as smoothly on windows as these work in iPads... So these are my thoughts.hopefully someday somebody will listen 👂...thanks...
The next surface should have a front facing camera that can under motor control pan and tilt with motion tracking. That way if you are taking pictures of white board notes and its slightly higher then your viewing angle instead of picking it up for a better shot the pc can stay stationary and the camera can be swiveled into view. Another good feature would be a cover that can work also while it is detached. So wireless.
hey can you tell me how is the battery life do you usually get ? like how many hours till it dies? i heard sp7 has worse battery life than sp6, is that true? because i am planning to buy surface pro and now confused which to choose sp6 or sp7 ?
Speaking of the USB C Hubs, is there one that you recommend? Several of them that say they do hdmi 60hz, don't. The reviewers are complaining that they only get 30hz. So if you have one you use that actually gives HDMI@60hz, with USB C data and charging I'd love to get one as well. Thanks.
Whatever you do, dont buy the i3 version. I initially purchased the Pro 7 with i3 because I wanted to save money, but it's practically unusable. I returned the i3 and got the i5, love it.
The main problem with the i3 model is that it only comes with 4GB of RAM, which isn't a good idea in today's world. My computer's sitting at 6GB usage right now just while typing this. Good call on getting the i5 model; I'm looking to pick one up soon, and I am excited!
@@jeffcolvin I love everything about the surface. A quick example of how slow and unusable the i3 is watch a youtube video at 1080p. It takes about 4 seconds to get it to switch to full screen, and another 4 seconds to switch back. It was rough. I've been using my i5 for few days now and I absolutely love everything about it.
I’m a noob when it comes to computing, I want to upgrade my ASUS K53U that I’ve had for like 5 years. I want a more portable laptop that good to work and watching films on. What would you recommend? Please let me know x
I'd recommend checking if the comparatively more portable size but much smaller screen works for you. If you tend to type with the device on your lap this might also not be perfect. For everything else - this is a solid device. I have an external monitor and Mouse/Keyboard & Desk for Home Office use and to me the Surface is perfect on the go.
Any news on a surface book 3. Architecture student and heavily debating between the surface pro 7, pro X, and surface book 2. Or should I wait for the surface book 3 which would be my best machine
Victor Elmgreen heard that the chip that will be running the pro x is not that powerful so you might not be able to draw CAD on it. I’d say book or surface pro 7 is a good choice depends on your budget.
Hey , thank you for the video , excellent . so I'm a digital artist looking for a good tablet to draw on but I'm stuck between the iPad, surface , and wacom mobile . I currently have a XP-Pen Deco 03 wireless drawing tablet without screen for my laptop with Paint tool Sai as my drawing software but I would like a tablet that I can bring with me wherever I go without lugging a huge laptop. I will be getting all the accessories that comes with the tablet (pens, keyboard, mouse, etc.) Also does paint tool sai work on ipads/macbooks?
Paul Smile the surface pen absolutely sucks. There’s a ton of jitter to it, due to the n-trig system. Any time you try to draw straight lines...good luck.
My surface pro 4 died, with just a little more than 2 years of usage. It started flickering last year, so I usually connect it to external monitor, so it lost its portability. Then now, it won't turn on, even after charging. So I do not think I will buy a surface product again. I just bought an ipad pro because of the note taking ability like the surface pro, and I think writing in ipad pro is a better experience. My macbook pro of more than 9 years is still working until now, so I think upgrading macbook pro is much better than buying a surface product again.
definitely doesnt make sense since there are hardly if any devices that plug into things using type c. there are some headphones, mice, keyboards that use type c, but they dont send a cord thats c to c for a reason, because most pcs dont have it. i think its a chicken before the egg issue
@@bradhaines3142 *"i think its a chicken before the egg issue"* That's it. Many peripheral manufacturers provide cables with USB A because that's what everyone has but if everyone had USB C ports then those same devices could use a USB C cables. There are a lot of old computers out there that won't be replaced for a while though, so many accessories and peripherals - particularly cheap ones - will use USB A for a while yet. The good thing about USB C ports is that they can do much more than USB A ports but I suspect that their most common use for some time will be to plug in a hub with USB A ports on it.
When the surface pro 8 comes out, im getting the i7 version of it with 16 gigs of ram for school. I really hope it will have thunderbolt 3 so i can connect my eGPU to it.
this guy has two smart watches
He needs all the help he can get.
@@musicianscrub458 hahaha!!!
Isn't one of them a fit bit?
Bigbrain mode activated.
y tho
1:50 - "Studio microphones, not a big deal...."
2020: "Okay, Hold my beer!"
Not to mention the 5MP front camera!
@@BlueToronto Unfortunately it's been 5 MP for the past 4 generations at least (it was 5 MP probably on SP3 or earlier as well). We need some upgrades at some point.
@@raresmacovei8382 Perhaps, but I've done a lot of looking around and there are barely any tablets/laptops that can match or come close to matching 1080p let alone 5MP. Tons and tons of machines with 720p and maybe 2MP tops.
I-i think you broken my brain
I love that they still have a headphone jack... but I feel they could add a few more ports to the device...
TheDeathmail for the form factor I think it’s fine. Really the only nitpick is another USBA port to replace the Mini DisplayPort, because USBC does the same function and usb a is still more useful than having two usb c ports.
6:35 watch the new Surface Pro 7 fold out handsfree, fully in less than a second!
Holy shit xD
Do y’all know it I can fold it back with the keyboard on the back of the screen?
@@rubennavarro9730 handsfree?
@@rubennavarro9730 Yes
Robert Downey Jr's long lost relative
I was thinking Josh Radnor.
@@chrisclark1761 same
What a disappointment right?
True darcotics
Good report. Could put Celsius as well as Fahrenheit, cos literally everyone else speaks metric. :)
Even in the us when not speaking weather and cooking Celsius is pretty common
@@coby7398 RIght, Yeah I was surprised to to see F at all. I thought all things tech had moved on.
Chuzz Bot not really lol. most reviewers I see will discuss thermals in F°
@@avxrevo lol right back atcha, primitive response. Did you ever hear of lands outside the US?
Chuzz Bot yea lol I am aware of the metric system. Is it a pity he didn’t include the thermals in c°? Yes. Stop acting like everyone from the US is blinded from the rest of the world.
Very nice review. You basically touched upon all the things I needed to know. Is i5 sufficient? Fan-less? Does this run hot?
I just upgraded from a SP4, and it's a pretty significant upgrade. I'm also going from the i5 on the SP4, to an i7 on the SP7, and from 8gb ram to 16gb. So I expect this machine to feel lightyears ahead of what I was using. Put those things together with the tenth gen processors, better thermals, faster graphics and much better IO, and I'm feeling pretty good about everything. I really, really, REALLY wanted the SPX. But as good as it looks, performance is EVERYTHING, and an ARM chip is a deal breaker. Maybe in two years...
Well ARM on windows still sucks after 2 years...
Ooff... Might not have been the best choice on the SKU there. The i7 on the SP7 was a MASSIVE rip-off!!! Unlike previous gens of Intel CPU's both the 10th Gen i7's AND the i5's have full "SMT" or what Intel calls "hyper-threading" support, meaning i5's & i7's are BOTH 4-core/8-thread CPU's! (And thus in terms of raw CPU performance the 10th Gen i5's & i7's are basically IDENTICAL [the latter just has ever so slightly higher clock-speeds.... that's it]).
Every generation before that had the i5's WITHOUT SMT, meaning they were only 4-core/4-thread CPU's and thus significantly slower than the i7's! With 10th Gen though? The only major upgrade on the i7's was now the bigger Iris iGPU with the full 64x "EU's" ("Execution Units", think Nvidia's "SM's" or AMD's "CU's") versus "just" 48x of them on the i5's. That said, the i7's iGPU performance isn't +25% better like you'd expect from the sheer +25% iGPU size increase, but only more like +10-20% sadly. Making getting the pricier & fan requiring i7 model even more silly.
The ONLY reason I can see where the SP7 (& 7+/8 too) i7 models make ANY kind of sense are for those that will be regularly running long length (>=5-10min) 100% system load workloads like video or CG rendering. And the reason to get the i7 ISN'T the bare/y faster chip itself BUT the inclusion of active cooling with a fan! That will help it SIGNIFICANTLY with avoiding thermal throttling for those really long 100% load tasks.
Did your SP7 works well with windows 11 now?
I like the charger, very convenient to see it a few times 💻♥️
Did they finally upgrade the Wi-Fi chip? I absolutely love my SP6, but one thing that some users have complained about for the last few gens is the Wi-Fi chip (or maybe it's just the processor) particularly with Windows Updates and installing apps/updates. Browsing is fast, but installing/updating takes forever.
Yes the have.
I got the i5 and I'm quite pleased with it. It performs better, runs cooler, and no annoying fan noise compared to the i7.
Under heavier workloads starting already at having like 7 Windows open and multi-task with them it regularly gets pretty hot.
We want LTE added. It feels like they are witholding that feature to push the Pro X. There hasn't been an LTE Pro since the Pro 5. Other manufacturers have already done it without the massive battery hit so it's really just a company decision
"It feels like they are witholding that feature to push the Pro X. " Oh, absolutely. And agree, I'd like a Pro with LTE, but I think they're trying to keep these product lines distinct in a few ways so they can push Pro X.
you can check this one > HP Elite x2 G4
2 x Thunderbolt 3 / 1 x USB 3.1 Type-C
LTE support
3000 x 2000 Touch Display
Hi, thanks for the video! Do you think Adobe Premiere Pro will work? (i'm not specially expecting high 4k performances, just running the software in a normal use :) ) If yes, which set up / combination would you recommand (Go, RAM, i7 or i5...) Thanks in advance :D
Surface Pro 7 = awesome (on paper) might try it over my 4 but my 4 rocks will make a trip or two to MS Store to test like I did when I bought the Pro 4 I use my Pro 4 every single day
How does the 4 hold up im trying to get the 5 and i want to know if its good for school use.
@@hi-ro1vo Hey not sure if you’ve got one already or whatnot but I have a Pro 5 i5 with 8gb ram and it works perfectly fine! Can even do some light gaming on it (played through Portal 2 on it) . It’ll be great for school work and most things really :D
@@aldo6532 oh nice but I haven’t bought it thanks tho
Great review, straight to the point, packed with information, never boring. Thank you!
Great video and great education!!!!! I learned so much. Thanks for sharing!!!!
Hey everyone! I'm going to be upgrading to the Pro 7 very soon. In addition to some of my basic productivity with Office, I'll be building landing pages through SquareSpace, Wix, and ClickFunnels. Can I get away with an i5, or do I need an i7? I look forward to hearing what people have to say.
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I once went into a Beat buy. Played with it. And fell in Love. I now have one and couldn't be happier.
I tried the new type covers at Best Buy and I definitely feel like the key travel has been reduced.
You sure everything was like for like? I thought the type covers were the exact same as the last few generations, all interchangeable.
the connection is the same, but the design can change/
@@teamrabbitalec It's changed a few times but I thought every keyboard since the 4 or 5 has been the same. How can one tell the 7 Type cover from the previous, they just say Type cover online?
I recently bought the pro 7 i7. Is it worth it to keep or return? Upgraded from pro 3 i5 since my keyboard is no longer recognized by the the tablet for some reason.
Anyone know why pro 3 type cover is not recognized by the tablet?
Real shame about the lack of thunderbolt 3, SP7 could have been my perfect one and only machine for everything from working to gaming via eGPU.
I'm a digital artist, and prefer the Surface Slim Pen significantly better than the regular Surface Pen. I recommend getting that if you can. They designed it like a drafting pencil.
Totally needs more than one side button though, that's the only reason I can't go MS it is crucial functionality.
is it normal for the i7 CPU in the pro 7 to be set at 1.3GHZ? Won't that slow it down? Are they going for battery life?
I hope next year they'll include Thunderbolt in most of their surface devices.
Stupid not to put it in the new ones. 😶
@@rajakhan12346 Every manufacturer seems to have problems to make them work, especially with docks
@@LennardPetrell they've could've easily added tb3 .
Thanks for the awesome review. You persuaded me to upgrade from a pro 4 to the 7! Can't wait!
and how is it ?
But with Google stadia this would be good for gaming aswell? Because stadia will not affect the hardware?
I bought one last week along with the stylus and Surface 2 headphones and all are outstanding!
What about the battery life man??
Are you sure you can charge it via USB C? You're the first reviewer that mentioned that. I thought charging had to be done via the proprietary Microsoft port.
MoonyD911 it does charge through its usbc port as long as you using a high enough wattage usbc charger
I use the surface pen and pro 6 for art and its amazing! I bought an alternate tip kit and that made it so much better!
I agree. I honestly like the realistic response of the pen from the friction on the screen. Surface pen is preferable to me
Where did you find the tip kit at?
@@TellurdogIsayhi Amazon! Just search surface pen tips
I Wish this Windows Tablet has 14/15 Inch Screen 😍😍😍
Great video! I have the SP6 so i won’t be upgrading but it looks nice
is it good and fast
@@K_ingh16 Thought you died.
I just don't get the concept of a magnetic pen holder. You couldn't travel or even walk around the office with it like that because the slightest bump would knock it off, right? Is the use-case just for a convenient and consistent place to put in during use?
Probably my favorite feature of my Samsung Note 10.1 tablet is the built in pen sleeve.
Thank you Mr. Rubino, very good review. I think I will wait till 2020, my surf pr9 6 works fine. I got spoiled with the I5 quad core processor so spending the $150 might be a stretch. However, the upgrade from 8th Gen Kaby Lake to 10th Gen Ice lake is something to think about,
The difference in CPU power is nonexistent. It's only the GPU that is about twice as fast. It's not a worthwhile upgrade. SP7+ isn't worth am upgrade from the SP6 either.
I want a surface pro X comparison... Especially the pen, is it really comfortable on that shape?
Depends on the person. I didn't like it personally.
How many hours does this SP7 actually keep up for daily use?
The oled panel currently being used by other manufactures is the same Samsung panel configured differently. There have been many problems reported with it. First gen woes I suppose, so not throwing a faulty oled on this machine was a good move.
We're actually on 2nd Gen OLED from Samsung now. Dell, HP, Razer are all using them. Haven't heard of any issues.
@@WindowsCentral Oh interesting! thank you!
@@WindowsCentral Quick question, are you aware if the new Razer Studio Edition is using the 2nd gen oled panel? I'm not exactly sure how to check. Thank you in advance.
As a desktop user who also has a Surface the biggest downside to the Surface and the reason I still have to keep my desktop is that the Surface can only add 2 external monitors. My 7 yr old Dell PC can run 3 very big ones. With the Surface I'd have to use the small Surface monitor as my 3rd monitor which is a significant downgrade to what I've been using for over 10 years.
A man with one watch knows the time, a man with two watches is confused
What configurations do I need to make photoshop run smoothly at high resolution? For example, the size is 60 x 40 cm 300dpi?
Nokia 3310
Good question. I'm looking to use Adobe on this as well
How well do video editing apps run on this device. Do you face considerable amount of lags?
Cant wait for artist review from others. Im gonna see if the jitter exist when palm rest on and off, when device gets hot and when its plug in.
The jitter will most likely be present on the Pro 7. It's kind of a signature thing of Intrig by now.
Yeah, I'm waiting for artist review for it. Though sadly I don't get my hopes up since Microsoft themselves never seem to market any improvements on it. They focused on Surface Slim Pen instead which we yet to see get reviewed by Dan.
I tried the Surface GO and it crashed and then Best Buy moved me to the Surface Pro 7 and THAT is a REAL computer...love it! Love the USB-A and USB-C connectivity...it's fast, like the reviewer mentioned. I use Office 365 personal on it and the Power Point with video and audio works beautifully. My old PowerPoint 2007 presentations wherein I use video clips, etc., they come up right away..no lag. This is a honey of a computer and the portability is tops! Keyboard case (I have the standard black) and it works great. I bought the Surface Pro 7 with 128 gigs of storage and with the micro SD portability I have plenty of the storage. I paid $799 WITH the keyboard case at Best Buy. I would heartily recommend this super portable computer that does everything the bigger, heavier "big boys" do.
But what about screen bleeding? Literally every SP6 I've owned and used in a store had insane screen bleeding, particularly along the bottom edge to where it was noticeable regardless of what was being displayed.
This is where Microsoft are behind. This should be an OLED panel by now, that'd fix the screen bleeding.
This
Martin Robson But it would then pose a new problem: screen burn-in. OLED’s simply not worth it for computers where there’s a higher risk of prolonged images.
@@fakefirstnamefakelastname8305 We've got OLED phones and OLED android tablets.
@@martinrobson6120 And those OLED tablets and phone have screen burn in. My 6 month old Samsung tablet had to be replaced due to severe screen burn in.
I love my surface and have been waiting for usb-c for so long
However, its not thunderbolt 3 so i have 0 reason to upgrade. Was hoping to hook it up to a GPU when i get home. blegh
Is it good for gaming??
@@christophermarin8033 not at all
When is the Surface Pro 8 due? Do you prefer the HP Spectre x360 13 or SP7 ?
I am excited by the 7. I really use SQL Management Studio and Visual Studio 2019 a lot so the power is very welcome. I do love the look of the Surface Pro X, yet no one has said if you can use it as a developer. Will it even run Visual Studio 2019?
It can run VS 2019. Run *well* is the tougher part to have an opinion on.
Yeah, VS 2019 in emulation may be interesting. Keen to see it myself.
No, it cannot run Visual Studio 2019. Microsoft even explicitly say VS2019 doesn't support Windows 10 on ARM, not even in emulation mode.
Surface Pro X will run 32-bit (ARM32), 32-bit (x86), and 64-bit (ARM64), but not 64-bit (x86) applications.
@@KataMatthaion No 64-bit (X86) apps means it cannot run Adobe Creative Cloud apps. What a shame. I love the ProX form factor and the slim pen. Wish Pro 7 had the same form factor as ProX.
Does anyone know if the matte black scratches easily compared to the platinum?
Can it be recharged via a portable power bank with usb-c?
yes but not as fast as the surface connector
@@Matt-jg2ji could you check 5W power supply? I can't understand, PD must be or not. Thanks
Is this a great option for engineering students ... Who will run some of the heavy softwares...?????
I jump between my SP5 and the 2017 Ipad Pro. I love a full windows experience, but I love the iPad for the speakers and battery life. Great Video
That is perfect Apple fanboy logic. There is no reason to own an iPad because they can't run MacOS applications which means you are limited to 1.9 million smartphone apps. SP5 runs 35 million Windows computer applications. End of story...
Do you wear two watches for each of the time zones that you live in?
Testing new Apple Watch S5, but it sucks for fitness, so I do Fitbit Charge 3 on other wrist.
@@WindowsCentral Sry for being mean, but I have a recommendation: Turn off the lasways on display and you'll get way better battery life.
I have a Surface GO. Should I upgrade to a Surface Pro 7? I am also planning on getting a Macbook Pro 13 2020. I also have a basic 128gb ipad 2018. Please Help.
Thanks for review man, been waiting for this review. I dont care about surf X i think its similar to ipad, i need a real computer but still confuse, should i take sp7 or sp6 (with lower price)
nauval toumy SP6 has wifi issues but with SP7 you get wifi 6 and Bluetooth 5 , so I’ll recommend you to take SP7 since the whole purpose of this device is the portability that it offers.
Yashvardhan Shukla thankyou, but i thought microsoft clear this case by sent to customers such a newer driver to solve this wifi issue?
I have one of them THEY ARE SO GOOOOOOD
Whats the average battery life when using chrome, Microsoft word and other programmes for work?
Hi Daniel, thx for the presentation! I'd like to ask you if you think that this machine is able to perform the MS Office apps in really good quality and speed. I mean extensive Excel sheets, large PowePoint presentations, etc. Is it worth to replace the top model of Lenovo Yoga with i7 with this machine? Thanks a lot, Peter
Great review! Does the MS keyboard use bluetooth? How does the surface pro 7 compare to the laptop 3 for productivity & seeing detail, working in Word & Excel?
No, it doesn't support Bluetooth but there are aftermarket keyboard that offer that.
If you care about performance, having better display, longer battery life, be able to upgrade internal parts, and better audio then go with Surface Laptop
But if you want to have lighter device, be able to use the pen (taking note or draw), having SD Card port, be able to hold it on your hand to read books easily, basically be able to use as a tablet when you need it then go with Surface Pro
So I'm thinking about getting a laptop/2 in 1 for school and want a surface product. What are the pros and cons between buying a surface book 2 vs. The surface pro line? Is it just specs?
I'd reply, but it's probably too late now lol
It's a shame they didn't make the effort to also integrate the stylus pen rechargeable stow away-booth just like with the new Microsoft Surface X.
It would make it almost perfect 😅
Absolutely. They want to buy/try Pro X ;) Next year though I bet they do it.
Is this suitable for student to use in study? And assignments
Yes surface pro literally design for that and working
I still don't understand why Microsoft goes so slow regarding updates on the SP. Yes, there are improvements but they are not enough for you to say "woa, they nailed it!" They are more like unavoidable updates, not really new significant updates. Migrating to a more recent Bluetooth, for instance, should be a given not something I should be thankful! In the end, consumers end-up buying it because they are used to, they are tired of waiting for THE one and finally want to have/use a SP....or simply they do not buy it and wait another year. Worst, now, they have shown SP X, which demonstrate that great changes can be done (bezels, pen solution, size), disregard of what's under the hood. Why should we accept the dated looks! Sorry Daniel, not even you seem that excited with the SP7.
Yo, you look like you just rolled out of your bed and started reviewing sp7. Really nice review though.
I find it funny that people still complain about Thunderbolt 3. From a business and user perspective TB3 has been a total marketing disaster. First lets start with the fact that Thunderbolt 3 is not stable, anyone who has actually used TB3 will tell you this, hot plugging devices is a gamble and when it fails to come up the resolution is usually to reboot your PC numerous times until it works, this is especially true with TB docks. Thunderbolt was a POC from Intel originally called light peak and was based on using and optical cable, but then Apple took it and made the copper connector to try and lessen the cost and used it with the mini DP connector and had some moderate success but ultimately sold it back to Intel where it was combined with USB-C using the connector. Peripherals are hugely expensive, not to mention other than for smartphones, the USB type C connector hasn't reached the ubiquity level of the Type A connector. I have the surface book 2 and surface go, on both devices I have a type-C to type A dongle just so I can do something useful with both of those ports.
bmbell71 I have a first gen Thunderbolt iMac and when the drive went I just hooked up a USB-C caddy with an SSD in and cloned my drive to the caddy and booted from there. No issues with sleep or crashes, and I set this up over three years ago and still works great. Was a lot faster than the HD in the iMac and was cheaper than replacing the old HD with a new HD! Since then I have been an advocate of Thunderbolt and it allows super fast transfer of files. For instance the family have about 6 Macs and to update each I just download the 5gb MacOS Catalina onto an external TB drive and transfer quickly. I also clone my drive on the TB Samsung external SSD so any new computer it is quick and easy to set up. We also have an eGPU that connects to the newer Macs to allow a boost to intensive work.
I have been using for years and it is a sad state that in 2019 Microsoft cannot put one in a $2000 top spec SP7. Having fully accepted TB and gone all in I could never go back to USB-A. All my USB-A accessories can plug into a USB-C dock or for $5 a dongle. There is no excuse apart from that MS and Windows continues to be slow to adopt new tech.
You can't outperform the speed of the protocol, if you plugged in a USB-C caddy it was running as a USB-C device, that's how TB3 works it negotitates the protocol for the device that's connected. Addtionally there are further complications in TB3's implementation, first off depending on what cable you are using, TB3 or USB-C there are different transmission speeds and they are not all compatible. There's a 40Gbps TB3 cable and a 20Gbps, similarly there's a 10Gbps USBc and a 5Gbps cable, all these cables look the same. Adding to confusion is the promised backward compatibility with TB2 and TB1 devices, Don't believe me? Go read the 2 star reviews on Apple's TB3 to TB2 dongle. The big area where TB got some traction was in the audio world where latency with USB was a huge problem and TB seemed like it offered a better solution to older FW devices. Guess what most of these companies went with TB2 due to compatibility with older mac's only to find that the spec changed and now people are having issues with their devices. Not to mention apple isn't even compatible with the Texas Instruments TB3 controller. Thunderbolt is a great idea in theory, but was a half baked implementation that has never gained traction in the market. It doesn't matter how fast or cool it is. Thunderbolt is the "Betamax" of peripheral controllers.
Because there're a lot of "unstable" thunderbolt 3 peripherals and cables out there does not mean that it's impossible to find good ones?? There are actually quite a few of good, stables, and proven TB3 products out there ranging from DAS solutions, eGPU docks, 4k/5k monitors that we're been using days in days out for the last couple years. There simply is no excuse for lacking it in the latest range of products.
@@Duckstalker1340 I never said you couldn't find any, I said performance is sporadic and compatibility is an even bigger issue. Market share is only around 2%. The move to go to USB-C connector was one of desperation as a technology that is viewed largely as an expensive apple proprietary protocol even though Apple sold it's stake to Intel. Actually the later fact should tell you everything you need to know about where it's headed, aka the route of FireWire.
Reasons why as an artist I got the surface pro over the iPad pro: FULL versions of Adobe software on the go.
You do know Adobe is bringing it’s full software to the iPad, right? It’s talked about on adobes own website.
Can you properly use lightoom on this device?
Any model of the Surface Pro 7 will have no issues running Lightroom.
I’d get 16GB of RAM especially if you edit RAWs
Does he always has two watches? XD
Only when I don't have three 🏆
Windows Central 😂😂
two questions: power limits and cooling?
I will buy a Surface Pro 6 at Black Friday. I think this will be a better deal than the surface pro 7 which wont get huge discounts.
My plan
always wanted to try a surface pro!
So I just got my new Yoga C940 14" (i7, 16GB, 1080p) last week. And after the first week, I have to admit, that it's just a stellar device. But I'm still really interested in what you have to say about it. I suppose a review is still coming? :)
Yup. C930 was one of my top/most recommended laptops of 2018, so C940 only improves upon it. We don't have it yet, so a few weeks out, but I'll definitely review it. And congrats!
@@WindowsCentral Thanks! Looking forward to your review. Seems like I got lucky with getting mine this early. There's almost no coverage yet.
Should I wait for the surface pro 8 to release in October or buy the surface pro 7? I know its not a for sure thing.
I got the i5, 8GB, 256 version. I work in IT and have 6 computers of my own. This SP7 is to replace my 13” Dell XPS laptop. I didn’t get the i7 due to no real need for more power.
Do you recommend the surface pro 7 for a university student? I intend to use it as a laptop and tablet
Same here.. Don't you think we should probably wait for surface pro8 coz it'll probably be released around the end of this year?
@@kailashnathan3609 OMG, THERE WILL BE A SURFACE 8? Yeah, when it releases I'll get the 7 (cause it will be cheaper KKKK)
@@princesaleia0079 technology usually doesnt work this way. The 8 could be cheaper to make, because they might have figured a better way to produce. Or minimize redundant material. But look out for sales.. black friday?
The lack of thunderbolt 3 hurts... The device would have been perfect with it
I was under the impression Ice Lake has TB3 on the die, I'm really not sure why it's not on this device.
My theory is they would rather have it exclusive for the Surface Pro 8 and up.
dan come on man don't u have a comb or something ?
Have you tried to run AutoCAD on this. I am wondering if this could handle 2D drawing and be super portable to take it with me to home or client.
i am still using a surface pro 3..... would I see I big difference if I updated to a 7?
me as well.. My surface 3(non pro) hangs constantly, and is amazingly SLOW!!
Pro 6 lacks USB C, Intel Iris Pro Graphics. And it runs on an Intel CPU TWO GENERATIONS behind (8th gen) the Intel 10th gen Ice Lake processor. Ice lake and Ice blue (type cover) cute names.
I am really tempted by Surface Pro X but my Surface Pro 5 is still running good... sometimes I wish my tech broke so I can replace it but it mostly refuses to!
trz_maier When your tech is working fine is the best time to sell it if you like to upgrade.
No one wants to buy a broken piece of technology.
I'm very confused. Does the Type Cover come with the Surface or do you have to buy it separately?
You have to buy separately but right now they have a bundle for sale that includes the cover keyboard and the pen
Keyboard & Pen are both separate. They run about $79-$140 each in US.
Hi 👋 there...I have used windows laptop as well as MacBook Air in the past...I switched from MacBook Air to surface pro 3 for the pen 🖊 pen functionality and one note...But Microsoft discontinued desktop onenote for the onenote app and the latter was superior to the former in many respects except one that the app version of onenote force you to buy OneDrive as it doesn’t give you an option to create notebooks in your local drive...Apart from this, you don’t have any other decent apps in Windows environment for note taking and annotating pdf documents...And it’s extremely frustrating...On the other side, iPad have tons and tons of great apps like notability,GoodNotes,LiquidText,pdf expert etc etc which are dream apps for anybody who like digital note taking and annotating PDFs...I am deliberately avoiding the hardware side where I find Apple Pencil and iPads better than surface pen and surface pro devices...
One area where surface outshines iPad is that the former gives you full desktop experience of windows 10 vs iPad os limitations but I tell you that these lines are also blurring with the iPad os in which Apple has added desktop safari as well as ability to connect external drives with the revamped files app.
Don’t get me wrong: I want Microsoft to succeed and the first step they can take is to give option of creating notebooks locally on computer hard drives in onenote app...Secondly, Microsoft must get these developers of notability,pdf exert and LiquidText etc (I have heard that liquid text is coming out for windows very soon which is a very good thing!) on board to make their apps available for surface devices and these must work as smoothly on windows as these work in iPads...
So these are my thoughts.hopefully someday somebody will listen 👂...thanks...
The next surface should have a front facing camera that can under motor control pan and tilt with motion tracking. That way if you are taking pictures of white board notes and its slightly higher then your viewing angle instead of picking it up for a better shot the pc can stay stationary and the camera can be swiveled into view.
Another good feature would be a cover that can work also while it is detached. So wireless.
hey can you tell me how is the battery life do you usually get ? like how many hours till it dies? i heard sp7 has worse battery life than sp6, is that true? because i am planning to buy surface pro and now confused which to choose sp6 or sp7 ?
Speaking of the USB C Hubs, is there one that you recommend? Several of them that say they do hdmi 60hz, don't. The reviewers are complaining that they only get 30hz. So if you have one you use that actually gives HDMI@60hz, with USB C data and charging I'd love to get one as well. Thanks.
Whatever you do, dont buy the i3 version. I initially purchased the Pro 7 with i3 because I wanted to save money, but it's practically unusable. I returned the i3 and got the i5, love it.
The main problem with the i3 model is that it only comes with 4GB of RAM, which isn't a good idea in today's world. My computer's sitting at 6GB usage right now just while typing this. Good call on getting the i5 model; I'm looking to pick one up soon, and I am excited!
@@jeffcolvin I love everything about the surface. A quick example of how slow and unusable the i3 is watch a youtube video at 1080p. It takes about 4 seconds to get it to switch to full screen, and another 4 seconds to switch back. It was rough. I've been using my i5 for few days now and I absolutely love everything about it.
Ted Mosby explaining to his kids.
“Kids in the summer of 2019 I reviewed allot of technology, but little did I know your mother was actually a viewer”
Sorry for the rookie questions. Can you drag and drop folders with either your finger or the pen? Doe it have face unlock recognition ?
I’m a noob when it comes to computing, I want to upgrade my ASUS K53U that I’ve had for like 5 years. I want a more portable laptop that good to work and watching films on. What would you recommend? Please let me know x
I'd recommend checking if the comparatively more portable size but much smaller screen works for you. If you tend to type with the device on your lap this might also not be perfect. For everything else - this is a solid device. I have an external monitor and Mouse/Keyboard & Desk for Home Office use and to me the Surface is perfect on the go.
Any laptop from €500 and up will do the job
Any news on a surface book 3. Architecture student and heavily debating between the surface pro 7, pro X, and surface book 2. Or should I wait for the surface book 3 which would be my best machine
Victor Elmgreen heard that the chip that will be running the pro x is not that powerful so you might not be able to draw CAD on it. I’d say book or surface pro 7 is a good choice depends on your budget.
I don't think Pro X can run 64-bit Windows apps. That may be a showstopper.
Curious to know if the surface X pen will work on the surface pro. The type cover also. Looking forward to your review and or comparison of the two.
The Surface Pro X pen will work for the Surface Pro 7, but the Surface Pro X type cover will not (it has a different attachment design).
Hi..I want to play some 250 FPS videos shot on GoPro7...no editing and stuff...just playback..
Should I go for i5/16GB RAM or i5/8GB is good enough?
u need ipad pro...
Hey , thank you for the video , excellent . so I'm a digital artist looking for a good tablet to draw on but I'm stuck between the iPad, surface , and wacom mobile .
I currently have a XP-Pen Deco 03 wireless drawing tablet without screen for my laptop with Paint tool Sai as my drawing software but I would like a tablet that I can bring with me wherever I go without lugging a huge laptop.
I will be getting all the accessories that comes with the tablet (pens, keyboard, mouse, etc.)
Also does paint tool sai work on ipads/macbooks?
Paul Smile the surface pen absolutely sucks. There’s a ton of jitter to it, due to the n-trig system. Any time you try to draw straight lines...good luck.
My surface pro 4 died, with just a little more than 2 years of usage. It started flickering last year, so I usually connect it to external monitor, so it lost its portability. Then now, it won't turn on, even after charging. So I do not think I will buy a surface product again. I just bought an ipad pro because of the note taking ability like the surface pro, and I think writing in ipad pro is a better experience. My macbook pro of more than 9 years is still working until now, so I think upgrading macbook pro is much better than buying a surface product again.
Surface 7 & 8 presentation were very good.
Good clear review
What is the lifespam of that thing? I am looking for something what would be with me for at least 5 years... SHould I jsut go with a ThinkPad?
The charger that comes with the Samsung Duos charger, would that work? Brokedown and ordered this for work on the go.
Thing could probably run _Crackdown 3_ on ultra settings.
Lol no
Can we stop talking about USB A devices as "legacy" devices? I still have not used USB C in a device that is not a phone or phone accesory.
Same
definitely doesnt make sense since there are hardly if any devices that plug into things using type c. there are some headphones, mice, keyboards that use type c, but they dont send a cord thats c to c for a reason, because most pcs dont have it. i think its a chicken before the egg issue
Yeah ikr, tech you tubers go on and on and on about whether laptops have usb c or not, but who the fuck actually uses it on a laptop?
@@bradhaines3142
*"i think its a chicken before the egg issue"*
That's it. Many peripheral manufacturers provide cables with USB A because that's what everyone has but if everyone had USB C ports then those same devices could use a USB C cables. There are a lot of old computers out there that won't be replaced for a while though, so many accessories and peripherals - particularly cheap ones - will use USB A for a while yet. The good thing about USB C ports is that they can do much more than USB A ports but I suspect that their most common use for some time will be to plug in a hub with USB A ports on it.
When the surface pro 8 comes out, im getting the i7 version of it with 16 gigs of ram for school. I really hope it will have thunderbolt 3 so i can connect my eGPU to it.
I have a surface pro 6. Should I upgrade if i don't really care about the usb-c port? I only do photoediting and video editing.