Is the World Real or Just an Illusion?
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- Is the world real, or is it just an Illusion? This talk addresses a common misconception about the nature of reality: Many classic Advaita texts say that the world is an illusion, but does that mean that it is not real?
Rupert says that the only reason we have problems with this is that in our culture, we believe that reality means physical things. The question is not whether the world is real or not. It is absolutely real. The war in Ukraine is real. The Caribbean beach we dream of is real. The suffering we feel is real. The question is, what is its reality? What does that question mean? It means not how does it appear to be - it means what is it really, in spite of the way it appears?
Yes, the world is an illusion - that is, it is not what it appears to be. But all illusions have a reality to them, and that reality is absolutely real. Moreover, there is nothing to an illusion other than its reality. All there is to the world is infinite being.
As the Sufis say: Wherever you look, there is only the face of God.
This clip is from Rupert's retreat at the Mercy Center (March 18-25, 2022).
00:00 Reality Is Made of More Than Matter
01:09 Is the World Real?
02:40 Breaking False Beliefs About Reality
03:50 Illusion Does Not Mean Unreal
04:16 What Is Reality Made Of?
05:34 The True Nature Of Reality
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Lose your interest in the superficial things contained in life and, in return, you will find the depth of life contained in all things.
Thank you Rupert, you were simple and clear.
One day, my friend offered to take shrooms and I decided to join in. During the trip, I had a realization about my understanding of nonduality. I pointed at the buildings across the canal and said to my friend, "Isn't it incredible that everything we see isn't even real?" This was a riddle I often used to reflect on nonduality. However, as I said it, I realized that I didn't actually believe or experience what I was saying. My friend responded cautiously, "Well, everything we see is real." This made me realize that my philosophy was not in alignment with my awakening experience. I began to view the concept of nonduality differently. I came to understand that there is a distinction between what we call the "world" and what we call the Earth. The "world" can be thought of as an illusion, a projection of our perception. However, by adjusting our perception to reality, we can see the real world. On the other hand, the Earth can be seen as a conscious being, similar to ourselves. Its physical manifestation can be thought of as the crystallization of consciousness. I hope this perspective helps.
Reality is an illusion but the experience of the illusion is real
The experiencer is the absolute reality, not the experience.
Depends on your interpretation of "reality". What is reality for you?
@@ShibaniSur THere is no experiencer. There is only That. Its all that ever was,and all that ever will be. And that is your identity.
@@omtatsatification The experiencer is that. Brahman.
that statement even fuck me more 😂😂😞
The best analogy for the world is gold in forms of ring, necklace, bracelet,etc. There is nothing a ring apart from gold, there is nothing necklace apart from gold, all there is , is gold manifesting in different shapes. All the world is Consciousness manifesting in the forms if matter. 💜💜💜💜
@SIMPLY HUMAN I'm curious. You sending these messages how is it helpful, Beyond helping you to feel good or whatever you're getting from it.
@SIMPLY HUMAN I take it, that you just can't help yourself lol. This site is filled with your messages of you just talking at people. and constantly telling people the way things are, according to your views.
Oh well to each their own I guess.
@SIMPLY HUMAN when you go on a site like Rupert's, of course it is expected that he's the one that's going to be doing the talking. So that seems a little bit different.
@SIMPLY HUMAN I go on a lot of CZcams sites, and read lots of comments. It's rare that I come across somebody who has posted as many things as you do. and who seems to be constantly talking AT people. I'm not the only person on here who has commented on this. so take it as you will. I have little doubt that you will spin this a different way lol.
@SIMPLY HUMAN the first message that I ever sent to you. I mentioned that there were some things that you said, that I was interested in. And some things that I wasn't interested in. On here you constantly have an answer for no matter what anyone says. it's like you have the whole thing drawn out ahead of time. And you just go back to it for the answers. to me that's not learning. Or being in the moment. Oh well.
Rupert at his clearest, most concise…..shining with knowledge and understanding, take what he is giving and let it melt your heart. 🙏🏼💖🙏🏼
Beautiful to have this simplicity given to us by Rupert. However to truly ‘know’ this in the heart will take more than listening to this 5 min explanation. An intellectual understanding yes but to undo the inherent beliefs we have about reality takes ‘time’ 🙏❤️
Why?! While we may settle into it but it is not required to take years.
He just said in the video that it doesn't need to take a long time to "get it." Drop the beliefs.
@@michaelrainbow4203 Yes I understand what your saying but beliefs don’t just drop away because you have an intellectual understanding of something. Some beliefs yes but deep seated ones like the nature of reality will only be dropped through an experiential ‘knowing’. The mind knows nothing of reality 🙏❤️
@@TheAffrojutty I understand that there is a process. I just found your comment funny considering what Rupert had stated in the video. Peace. ;-)
Right understanding takes 5 mins but to undo the beliefs and perceptions we have accumulated from previously births takes a lifetime. Also our own identities with the world based of this is real also needs tons be dissolved. It takes time
Worlds best and no 1 Spiritual teacher Guru ever before in the history of this planet.
'Whereever you turn, there is only the face of God.' This is actually a verse (Ayah Al-Baqarah)/(the Cow 2:115) from the Quran. I really like the way you look at enlightenment and spiritualism, Rupert. Thank you so much.🙏
@@katsrk3039 For me enlightenment is the Prophet Muhammad's ascension or the night journey where he is believed to meet God on that night.That means he discovered the truth about being human. And we are all khalifas (viceroy, successive human) of God just like Moses, Jesus, Muhammad. “And when your Lord said to the angels, I am going to place in the earth a Khalifah, they said: what! Will You place in it such as shall make mischief in it ...And actually all the story starts off with this hadith qudsi: 'God said' I was a hidden treasure; I loved to be known. Hence I created the world to be known and I created the human to know. If you ask me, enlightenment is to realize this truth.
Rupert's wisdom. Distillation in simple terms. Comprehension. Love. Awareness.
So clear. Thank you, Rupert, for doing such an amazing job of sharing insights that Beings might not otherwise realize. From Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj to a seeker: "Call it a dream and be done with it." 🙏
You are not born to this world, the world is born into you - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. You are that witness conciseness unborn, deathless and continues
So beautifully explained. Thank you Rupert. 🙏😊
💫 Such wonderful clarity! 🙌 Oh thank you and bless you beloved! 🥰🙏💐
we are consciousnesses within consciousness, dreams within dreams
What Rupert says if of course true. The world is real but not physically so. The fact that cannot be disputed is no one has ever experienced physical things directly. All we have ever known and can can ever experience is our own consciousness.
Having said that, we cannot force ourselves to experience the world as if in a dream which is how real sages experience the world. To them the waking world is no different from a dream, only longer. Its not just a concept or an idea, but really experienced as such.
This transition will only happen when the ego is totally dissolved. When the ego is destroyed, whatever it has constructed will be destroyed too. Chief among these is the belief in the physical reality of the world.
So true what he says about Ramana and Nisargadatta!ॐ ❤
I have a huge amount of respect for Ramana and infinite love for Nisargadatta ,the earnest study of his teaching,gave shape to my non-dual understanding.
Love & appreciate you 💗 Thankyou🙏
what I am getting of this is that my being, even my "bad" habits such as watching youtube videos, while my mind says I should concentrate on meditation etc. is happening very naturally, and is my "being", that is my way of being naturally, without trying to do anything other than what just happens. I have often wanted to get away from this natural thing, to do something more productive for my spiritual growth. But as the world is just infitie being, infinite me doing what I feel like in the moment, if I just go with that flow, and yield to what is OBVIOUSLY happening by itself, that being of myself, will shine through and by living it, it can be used to find true reality and peace.
Thanks deeply for sharing this understanding in such a clear and refined way.
Great 👍 MY Guru.. Rupert
Twenty years? Psh, I spent 51 years from the age of 21 to reach the point where your explanation makes perfect sense in a few brief minutes. Aided and abetted by reading George Berkley, Baruch Spinoza, René Descartes, the Sufis, the Roman Stoics and many other thinkers. Stirring stuff!
Rene Descartes refuted his own thought experiments.. or should I say they refute themselves... however we perceive the external world is indeed our shared objective reality.. regardless if we have subjective experience of said shared reality doesnt change the fact that the external world does indeed exist independent of your perception of it.. that's like saying because we don't see a chair as frequencies and molecules we are hallucinating a chair 😂.. no thats just how we see the chair with our human sensory perception. It all seems a bit pointless
Love Rupert's insights !!
All matter is energy. However we have eyes but cannot see and ears but cannot hear.
He gets paid well for waffling on about things he finds interesting, more power to him. I doubt every single word he says is God's own truth, but I do like him.
Had he been a pastor, he would be owning jets and yachts. He is spreading the knowledge of modern sages on Advaitha or universal consciousness
🙏❤️. Thank you. Simply beautiful.
Thank you! 😃✨🙏💚
Muchísimas gracias!!!❤🙏🤗
I needed to watch this video twice. I enjoyed every word you said 🙏
Is that which is experienced in a dream real or unreal? Can dualistic words describe that which is non-dual and beyond words?
Thank you sooooo much Rupert ❤
Fantastic explanation 👌🌟just gave me a new way to understand the world I love in 🎊💫🎉🤝🙏
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What is real is what does not change, therefore life is as illusion
So very helpful. I cannot understand neo-Avaita, but I understand this.
Thank you Rupert for explaining it so well... and for being so candid that you too had grappled with it 😉. I struggle with it 🤦♀ and this really clarified with the screen metaphor. Thank you for posting this 🙏 Rima
OMG!
This is this this this is Great Rupert I only listen to U and You are real in Me🌹🙏🌹
Thanks Rupert.
Which is better, erkat toll or robert spira?
Simply. Beautiful. God distilled in a few minutes: "Wherever you look, right there is the face of god." And what is looking, too, is god. For there's no-thing looking. And no-thing being looked at.
I have a hearing challenge. Could someone spell the name of the three individual Rupert feels were significant to introducing the west to Vedanta. Especially the name of the one who is not well known according to Rupert. Thank you to whoever provide the spelling of the names and thank you Rupert for sharing.
Atmananda Krishna Menon is the lesser known.
Krishna Menon said such things as: “Perception proves only the existence of knowledge and not the existence of the object.”
And: “Knowing proves only knowledge, and not the object as is ordinarily understood.”
Vedanta and non-duality is not God-Realization. God-Realization is God-Realization, that is, simply, Realization of God. A Sovereign Consciousness. And super-spiritual experiences and visions of God.
Religion is closer to Trut than non-duality.
Anyone who claims to be God is deluded. Non-duality is partly true.
Rupert is not God-Realized.
Nisagardatta Maharaj
Bravo! To achieve such simplicity is no small thing!
Rupert is like an advanced Spiritual procedural manual that aspirants on the path can refer to so that we don't end up on a tangent path and off the cliff
Let’s take two words: water-moon and rabbit-horn.
I define water-moon as the image of the moon we see on water.
Rabbit-horn is the image of a rabbit with a horn or a horn came from a rabbit.
Are these real?
Both are appearance in mind - if you like you can say appearances in consciousness.
Water-moon is a reflection of a real thing but NOT the real thing.
Rabbit-horn is a pure imagination but an image based on two real things (rabbit and horn).
In summary
Things always appear in consciousness (or with the consciousness) but what appears is only a representation and sometimes what appears is pure imagination based on what mind got exposed to before.
The world is not real. Because all experiences don't last. While you experience it the world seems real. Anything that changes is impermanent. Experiences come and go. Moreover, the impermanent is pervaded by the screen of the SELF. Therefore, the changing world is the SELF also.
Thank you Sir
Thankyou🙏🏻❤️
Emptiness is the reality, transient form the illusion. Maya, is a "constructive" illusion - a projection of Consciousness.
Спасибо огромное!
I have the intention to experience this truth in my heart, not just conceptionally 🙏❤
Amazing
Wonderful
For me is at this question always that most exciting that it is all the same for a consciousness. The experiencing consciousness experiences everything what appears in the spirit, a distinction between something comes directly from the spirit, or it still has information of an outside world is not to be distinguished for the consciousness..... Thus illusion and reality are one and the same...
Illusion is misinterpreted when the person who senses an object, when that person looses ability to sense it they describe the object as an illusion where as the person's senses may called as incapable but the time some call as fourth dimension may change objects structure therefore what persons felt becomes something else with the time. Although the object looks same after sometime it had changed
Hmmm... I was expecting Rupert to say physical reality was not real as other physicists have been trying to ram down my throat. Surprise!
Why is Rupert saying the Ukraine war is real? That’s a strange a example
It's an illogical position. Illusion is not real. That's why it's called illusion.
@@sandycarter5300 illusion means that something is not what it APPEARS to be. But the illusion IS SOMETHING. It is made out of something. It just isn't what it SEEMS to be.
@@pdigrazi yes but why did he bring up ukraine?
You are so right...how we got mislaid by all the decoration of eastern teachings. For those gurus who flaunted their inflated egos, treated us followers like sh..t.
This won't cost you a cent. The world is the world, it's what you make of it.
I feel Krishnamurti also belongs on that list of people that bridged the essence of these teachings into language and imagery that is more palatable for "the rest of us" 🙃
Krishnamurthi doesn’t believe in Advaitha
@@austin426512 Neither did Alan Watts, however they both managed to objectively analyse & simplify various ideas-without needing to believe-down to their bare essence, to be pondered by a larger audience.
@@Meisha-san Alan watts talked a lot about Hinduism and he understood Vedanta very well
@@austin426512 Alan Watts did not believe in Advaitha, & said so may times, but could speak at length about a lot of what he understood.
Where's the confusion here? What am I missing that you're questioning?
@@Meisha-san Alan watts undressed Hinduism very well, where as krishnamurti was an atheist and has no connection to any concept of God
Wow! 😳 Rupert... that cleared a lot of things. Hmm... 🤔
You guys are making me confuesd
whereever you look its consciousness shining forth in it all its multiplicity ...its real ! Once we remove our belief that it is unreal
The vocabulary of Kabbala is more precise in this. The Hebrew root to the world (haolam) is the same as the root to the verb "to conceal" (hehalem) so it is not inaccurate to say the translation for the world & the universe is "the concealment," and then, the question for a seeker is, what does it conceal?
This simply makes sense to me...
Hmm, I feel like the original Vedantic language, and the sophisticated Indic philosophy accompanying it, was more than sufficiently sensitive to the subtlety of the distinction he makes here - I haven’t come across any text which altogether denies that the phenomenal world exists in any sense, even in the relative point of view. Just this morning I came across this passage in the Yoga Vasistha which seems rather clear to me: “[The World] is both real and unreal: because it is perceived it appears to be real, but because of inherent contradiction it is unreal”. I feel like Spira ji is belabouring something of a purely semantic point; perhaps it would be best to study the original Sanskrit than hang on to the English words “real” and “unreal”
"Nothing exists; everything appears to exist" - Nisargadatta Maharaj
Can someone kindly explain this in simpler terms? I really want to understand
Everything we see, sense and experience in life (both internally and externally) is ultimately nothing other than God's infinite and eternal being, shining _as_ reality.
I think it is best that you try to formulate where you get stuck in understanding this. That way we can look at the unexamined assumptions that are implied in the attempt to understand. From this investigation real understanding can come ...
When you look into a mirror and see your reflection you know there is nothing actually there but you have "a real experience" of your self and other things being "over there" as you look from "here".
As scientist have found that matter is made of energy mystics have found that energy and matter is made of consciousness. 🙏
The world is real / actual / present without being solid / physical / material. It is an appearance, but the appearance is not made of anything other than the appearance.
An Essential Illusion is Money, how do numbers in computers or on pieces of paper act so forcefully on Societies as to be the very Rudder directing our course? I'd like Rupert to speak to that,
Real compared to what? Illusion compared to what? This is a dualistic question only relavent to thought
The reason this doesn’t convey as Truth is because it comes across as a mental analysis rather than a Realization. If you listen to Realizers like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Ramana Maharshi or Adi Da Samraj, the communication about this subject is crystal clear because they are Enlightened whereas it is totally obvious that Rupert is not. I guess it’s better than nothing though.
"وَلِلَّهِ الْمَشْرِقُ وَالْمَغْرِبُ ۚ فَأَيْنَمَا تُوَلُّوا فَثَمَّ وَجْهُ اللَّهِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ" Quran 2/115
Bashar says the only thing real about physical reality is our experience of it. And so you can say what is real is our experience. Quantum physics is also finding that physical reality is just data - that the universe is simply not what it seems - likely some form of simulation.
What is real? ....(a word) 😅
It may be real ... but real in what sense? If the world is simulated, with simulated objects that include human brains which are provided simulated imagery and simulated sound and more, then can "we" say the world is real if it's impossible to know anything outside the simulation?
If the whole thing was an illusion, then the illusion would be real. End of story.
Ok so what? This is God's dream that we all are in. Everything that is real because consioussness has tools to convince you that it is. Just like in a dream you don't know that you are in it when you in it. You can take psychedelic and melt reality away. You can manifest things just by your thoughts. You can breakethrought the dream state.
The experience of it is real .But in relative terms it's not
There will be less problems and confusions,if the one presenting his or her own model of Reality, presents it in a consistent manner with what he or she firmly believes in. Many models of Reality out there. Rupert's Consciousness only model of Reality is the one that is solely based on being aware of being aware. In other words, it's based on Self Consciousness or Self Awareness. Chances are ,no model of Reality is perfect, and this model of Reality probably could render more service to humanity, if presented with less Self deceptions, distortions and diversions. If Rupert truly believes that it is Consciousness alone which assumes all activities, then, say it like it is. Be it praises or blames. Exporting all praises to Consciousness and leaving all blames to finite minds, beliefs in separation, cultures...etc, as if these activities are independent of Consciousness. That's the mistake many religious mystics, and fanatics have made, which has brought havoc and great damages to humanity as a result. God is all good, all loving, therefore, God has nothing to do with all the pains and sufferings that falls on all life forms endlessly. With these forms of Self deceptions, Consciousness begins to look for something other than itself to put place all blames on, follwed by religious wars, burning people at stakes, tortures,judgements...etc, all because something else other than God had to be responsible, so comes the concept of sin and sinners, follwed by every imaginable atrocities. Now, we hear, Consciousness is all peace and happiness, therefore, it couldn't possibly be the one causing the pains and sufferings of all life forms endlessly, it has to be something else like, finite minds, separate self,or the belief in separate Self, if not, it has to be the cultures that is responsible. All these activities of endless sufferings of all life forms, couldn't possibly be done by Consciousness alone, could it?. God or Consciousness, Same ideology sold under different labels. Nothing more than forms of Self deceptions and all sufferings are no coincidence. In one talk, Rupert claims that everything that is ever known is known by Consciousness alone. In another talk, he would claim, finite minds also know, and what finite minds know, Consciousness doesn't know, and what Consciousness knows, finite mind doesn't know. Rupert used a book metaphor once, to illustrate his beliefs about Reality. The metaphor says, all the pages, all the chapters and all stories are already all there, but, a finite mind can only read one page at a time. In other words, Rupert believes everything is already predetermined. He no longer uses the metaphor. If he does, it would most likely not only drive away the audience, but, also would defeat the purpose of his talks. Watching an animal documentary, I saw a mother warthog and her piglets being dragged out of their hiding place, and were literally being eaten alive by a group of lions while screaming from the top of their lungs to no avail. Walking up to them to preach happiness would be not only huge ignorance and Self deceiving but, only adding insults to their sufferings. Countless life forms are screaming somewhere even at this moment which is more of the reason why, we can never be too careful, when it ceocerns the Absolute True Nature of ourselves, not just for our own sakes, but also for the sakes of all life forms and beyond.
The piglets are dead and gone. But their suffering is in your memory. Beyond your memory what are you? The piglets had happy moments too when they were alive! Happiness, Sadness, pleasure and pain are part of life, but as consciousness you are also beyond all these things!
@@balasubramanian4975 yes of course it's all part of life. I fully agree. My point is this. If a man puts on a costume and goes out, commits massacres and unspeakable atrocities , turns around and always blames the costume but, never himself, then, this man is truly sick. He needs to investigate his own psyche instead of deceiving himself. If Consciousness, Consciousness alone assumes all activities of all life forms, turns around and always blames the costumes and never itself, then, Consciousness is sick, deceiving itself. It's A wrong understanding of Reality and Existence. Just as the man needs to investigate his own psyche, Consciousness has to investigate its own psyche of all the itches, urges,and the impulses as to why. Blaming the costume but never itself amounts to Self deception. The man always blaming the costume but never himself is really a sick man, if anything qualifies for madness and insanity, this one does. All praises goes God and Consciousness but, all the atrocities, genocides, the bad and the ugly goes to something else like finite minds, belief in separate self if not, it's the cultures...etc. That is not only Self deceiving but, are real madness and insanity.
@@joajoajb I agree! The finite mind has the flaws. The work should be upon the mind. There is no denying it.
Since the finite mind assumes the role of a doer by default, everything has to be done on its account to not violate the principles of life.
On the othee hand, the doer of good and bad, the finite mind where has it sprouted from? why is it always uncontrolled in the mode of action and restlessness, the source of all problems?
When we investigate the underlying consciousness is revealed.
The consciousness, the essential 'us' has no motives, choiceless is all by itself. It has nothing to do with anything.
The persona identified mind cannot perceive Consciousness. Mind is identified with many many concepts about onself and the world. The state of consciouness is undivided and whole!
Consciousness is revealed once all the concepts and ideas about oneself, the mind work is dropped. When you can directly be as you are, it is.
The conditioned mind cannot blame the choiceless being state of consciousness for its actions. The mind has to enquire about its behaviour, wrong doings and rectify them. Why does not it value the peace, wholeness and everything ? If it values it will subside to reveal the 'all peaceful' state of consciousness.
@@balasubramanian4975 By talking about finite mind, you're imparting Reality to finite mind as if it is independent of Consciousness. What Rupert believes is that there really is no finite mind with its existence apart from Consciousness. In other words, there is no finite mind anywhere doing anything, Rupert believes, finite minds are activities of none other than Consciousness and Consciousness alone. So, in this model of Reality, Investigating anything other than Consciousness is madness, since all activities are activities of Consciousness and Consciousness alone. There is no room for anything other than Consciousness, that can act or behave on its own. That's the Consciousness only model that he believes in. So introducing anything or anyone other than Consciousness is already a form of Self deception.
@@joajoajb Though mind has no existence of its own and everything happens in the sphere of consciousness, its temporal reality cannot be denied. I hope that is one of the point ruper is making here, if we can listen carefully!
Although every action arises in the field of consciousness, as long as there is an assumption of doership, there has to be rectification too.
This, Rupert may not be saying here..but that is my point. Thank you!
The reality, the dream state, and self hypnosis, they're all feel the same to me. Although, reality have consequences, for a lifetime.
Sorry! You forgot Swami Vivekananda who came to America at the end of 19th century in 1893. He was the first to give the message of Advaita to the West. It was never shrouded in eastern packaging, only now you
opened your heart to this message. Miss Margaret Nobel, later sister Nivedita saw it then itself.
What about hallucinations?
I have heard that the solid things we call "real" are not really what we believe we see and touch! Due to the fact that everything solid is really made up of Atoms moving rapidly - and Atoms are mainly made up of empty space! So, now what?
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What 20 years?
Now × 20 = real Now 😮
Consciousness is responsible for thoughts. Rupert even states we are not in control of our thoughts, so I conclude that consciousness is playing the world of duality and the war in Ukraine consciousness is responsible for. We are just the observer from what I understand and that is a concept too.😊
In the book Getting The Life. Experience You Want Reality Simulator Manual . Earth is just like a Holodeck on Star Trek because we were born in the Holodeck we dont know it's just a simulator . Earth is a teaching device to grow in consciousness where people can out play their dramas and learn from their experiences ?
Why bother? If we are part of the grand Godhead, then why not be born intact and in possession of all knowledge of reality? Thence we could merely play amongst the stars without need of learning and suffering.
The world isn't reality. It's an image. Is an image reality? No, it's just what it appears to be, it's an appearance. That you perceive it is an experience, and the coming and going of experience isn't reality, it's just the shifting visual representation, your description, of perception. Maybe it's enough to say it's happening, and then to look for what you're responsible for in regards to perception. What part do you play in the interpretation of the appearance of a world?
There is just one indivisible universal consciousness, which is not the pure and perfect divine Awareness. This one false objective sense imagines a world of infinite fragmentation. The impersonal belief in subject/object instantly posits countless imaginary reference points, but these are not persons/entities. It is all impersonal data only.
All views are shaped, a lens imposes certain boundaries, it focuses and limits attention, so seen through a particular lens, or context, the effect of looking through one, which while we do is imagined to be singular or private, and through which images of objects exist seemingly separate from the viewer, a condition imposed by the lens, we describe what appears as a world, “out there”. I'm concerned with my part in accepting the influence of a particular lens, or any influenced view. One universal consciousness? Maybe mind is simply a shared field, and not billions of discreet platforms. In mind, there is that which attempts to influence mind. I say that because I see its reflection in the action of all that has access to it. The attempt to influence “in the world” is constant. Everyone does it, as if it's familiar to everyone, but rather than do what's being done in mind by repeating the action of it in “the world”, an imaginary outward arc of perception that sees an “external world”, I'd rather take responsibility for the influence I accept in mind. I think there's an influence in mind that isn't kind, and one that is. I accept responsibility for learning which is shaping the lens through which I look.
Aren’t we funny. We surely learned about rods n cones at school. So if colour is created by cortex then all there is is whatever is, coloured by the cortex.
I love you, Rupee. ❤
🧠 The imagination is a playground to life. But don’t ever let your imagination get the best of you. Life is what you make of it. By the way you think is the way you feel. Whatever you create in your mind you create in your life. But the reality is when you put it into action, so others know what you’re capable of doing by action. We are like the battery 🔋 🪫. We can think positive or we can think negative. The choice is ours through our free will. So believe what you want it’s your choice. In life and how we choose.
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Exactly: what is the definition of "real"? We think "real" is something we can touch. But when we touch things are we even touching them? What are those things anyway? We go down and down and down and those "real things" aren't "real" anyway, because they're not even "really" there. So what we mean is, our experience of "reality" is "real". And because "reality" isn't really there anyway, what we actually mean is our "experience"! So our experience is real. Reality is our experience.
Not to disrepute science or anything at all, but isn't science the how, the mechanics, the measurement of one thing against another, in-fact the measurement of the unknown against the "known". And when we realise what we think we know is not really a known at all, or it's only a known in comparison with another known, then we know there are no knowns and everything is open to interpretation.
Illusion is as real as North and south, it depends entirely on the apoearences of objects.
Mirage-like
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All there is is infinite reality
Ramana Maharshi did simplify but yet he was very grounded in Shaivism. Two people the people who removed these trappings of religion would be the two Krishnamurtis (Jiddu and UG). JK's experiences seemed very similar to Iyer's.
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Lo voy escuchando 2 veces y se me es dificil entenderlo pero lo repetire hasta que esta VERDAD sea mi verdad¡¡¡ muchas gracias Rupert¡¡
The word Maya (= illusion) is defined differently by Advaitis and Vishista Adavitis.
Maya is the prakriti - an amazing root matter and is real as per Vishista advaitis. There are detailed explanations for verse 7-14 of Srimad Bhagavad Gita.
I don't dream of a Carribean beach.That's too sunny.
It's a real illusion...or an illusionary reality...or... I don't care.
JOAJOAJB..top thinker.!!🤘🤘
Does anyone else miss the flower?!
I love the magic flying carpet ☺️
i feel home