Pesky: civil discussion and well thought out points as to why the anky is a good animal; countering Brians points. Devs: calls Pesky names and is extremely petty and offended as well as blames and punishes Pesky for things other people did
If someone told me that one group was a teenager with a youtube channel and the other an adult with a development job I would not believe that the adults acted that way. I only just found out pesky is 18, dude acts more mature then university students I know.
They got rid of people getting access to type-H & called them scum... well maybe don't take 3 plus years to deliver something that has more work in it then the dinosaurs already in the game now.
@@whisperingangel8735 "being a shitbird the entire video" If that's being a shitbird I really want to know what their reaction to an actual hate video would be
Absolutely awful, punished for having a different opinion isn't good developer behaviour. You shouldnt apologise for a Internet mob you couldn't *possibly* have ANY control over. Even if you had asked in that video for the community to not go after Bryan. No developer should get any shit, but it clearly wasn't a hate vid. We support you Pesky ♡ they are being really juvenile.
The entire dev team acts like that. Oh you should have seen the backlash on the steam comments a month or so ago when they *finally* "updated" the steam news with a big, long novel that wasn't even an update. Paradymshift got his ass handed to him and he whined like a little bitch lol
I mean they kinda are pretty childish........ I mean I went into a twitch stream a month back and asked about the isle once while they were playing a different game. And I got made fun of with words like “weird Dino kid” or “get the fuck out of here” And when I replied with what the fuck and a 😂 emoji and what they did afterwards was ban a person that wasn’t even me and they were like meh. It’s why I never try try and show up to there streams anymore cause all of they’re community as a whole is toxic.
Don straight up admitted in one of beavers videos that he doesn’t watch almost any content creators, but rather just hears what’s going on by what people tell him, so he probably didn’t.
@@lustrazor44 who was the developer that leaves the game?? that guy problably was the brain of the game since he left the the dev team the game stops evolve, how many time passed until they released a patch?
listen to me king. you shouldn’t have had to make this video. you are 100% in the right in my eyes. i applaud you for standing your ground and standing behind your own opinion (unlike some people). ily
Why is that? His video cause people to send hate and shit to Brian. And to shit on someone helping make the game you want to play and you want to get content creator? If your making something and someone says, hey, the wrong are you just going to sit there and take that shit? No. It was a joke. Everyone fucking knew that. Everyone.
@@SufferingJax its not his fault a bunch of dumbasses decided to hate on bryan because of a video he did , he has no control over people watching his videos
Frostbite The Badass Ice Carnotaurus tell me about it I posted this #teampesky and changed my name to have it and they went after me saying I hate the isle (granted I hate the devs) but also said this “you having that makes fun of foszors cancer” I hate the player base and devs
@@DrSpoon-iu4hs most of the player base and the devs ate toxic the devs cant take criticism nd start acting like the day of dragons devs and then the community of the game is the most toxic going after other dinasaur games just because they want the isle to be the almighty dinasaur game (for example look at when beasts of bermuda and path of titans where Linda realesed to the public and yes I know path of titans is still in the works )it's just sad the entire player base acts like children
I Respect Pesky for being one of the very few people to actually have the balls to talk about the games problems and what he wants to see the game improve with, unlike the other dick riding content creators who are to afraid to critique the game and always complement everything about the game. I find it hard seeing this game improve because Dondi doesn’t listen to anyone and only does what he wants and doesn’t care what the players want. Pesky don’t suck up to these idiots.
@@undeadwerewolves9463 ikr I used to be such a big fan of his content but after a while it got really boring just listening to anth praise everything about the isle and not giving actual criticism about the game
The anky video was fine and well-thought out. Refusing access to a content creator just because they have OpinionsTM is bonkers. EDIT after watching the whole thing: Pesky shouldn't need to apologize. He made an interesting video voicing his thoughts. He's not psychic--how on earth could he know that people would go after Bryan (which is really, really weird behaviour). People make videos like that for every game imaginable. The video creator is not responsible for what random wackos do (unless they specifically say "go flame this guy!" which Pesky did not). Holding him accountable for the actions of others is ridiculous.
You’ve handled this really maturely. The way the devs handled it was really immature and completely unfair of them to act like that towards someone who has been supporting the game and showing it to a wider audience. They absolutely shouldn’t be treating content creators or players like this and I hope they learn how to better handle situations like this in the future
Tbh it’s sad that they apparently can’t see that people offer up constructive criticism /because/ they love the game and it’s important to them. They really need to learn to respect and take on board the opinions of their players in general or they won’t continue growing as devs
I have mixed feelings on "I hope they learn how to better handle situations like this in the future" ... if they can act like that, there is no hope unless half the playerbase disappear or almost completely..
The devs were angry because of the way the community responded to Pesky’s video. Clearly Pesky didn’t mean for that sort of backlash, but it wouldn’t have happened if not for his Anky video. The devs care for one another, and they have to deal with one of the most toxic communities out there. Remember that.
LieutenantTrashcan that doesn’t mean they had to punish Pesky for it is the thing. He couldn’t help how some people are assholes, and even if Pesky did blatantly try to start a flamewar Dondi and Paradym had no right to react as unprofessionally as they did. Makes them and the game itself look bad as a result.
Damn the devs really need to learn the difference between flamebaiting and legit constructive criticism. I never viewed the anky video as a hate video but as a legit argument for why the anky should be in the game. I feel like the devs are focusing on the wrong aspects of the video and not realising what the true intention of the video was. If Dondi and his team won't learn to take constructive criticism I fear we'll end up in a situation similar to Day of Dragons where anyone who asks legit questions about the game will be called a hater and banned without hesitation. I fully support Pesky in this, I feel like the devs owe him an apology for talking about him the way they did when they clearly hadn't watched the anky video or any of his other videos. They are the ones spreading lies and misinformation, not Pesky!
The devs don’t care about the anky video, it’s already confirmed. They care about Bryan, and he received a lot of hate for merely voicing his opinion on the anky. Sound familiar? I’m sure Pesky didn’t mean for his viewers to react in such a hateful manner towards Bryan, but they did and that was a direct result of Pesky’s video.
I'm glad you made this video though, because this is nowhere near the first time something such as this happened, now that it's in the public eye people will hopefully understand the truth about the devs, more specifically dondi
Dondi is a child when it comes to criticism. He can't take anyone saying anything and just makes a series of passive aggressive comments and tries to play off how pissed he is. I've never seen a grown adult who can't handle basic minor criticism. For gods sake
Dondi literally said "I'm just a bid kid who likes dinosaur", Pesky didn't clarify enough or how important it is, to not hate on them, and then guess what happened? He got shit on.
Been watching this entire situation unfold, and quite frankly I completely agree with you. I've rewatched your video quite a few times and I genuinely cannot figure out what part of the video would incite flamebaiting, you aren't in control of the aggressive mongoloids who shoved that video down everyone's collective throats and completely mistook the point of the video. I admire you for sticking your ground while also clearly making an effort to make things right. I genuinely respect that.
YES, i rewatched it to and dont see anywhere pesky might have overstepped a boundary, its not his fault that other people decided to attack a dev, pesky cant control others :/
The thing that baffles me is how people seem to now be REALLY realizing how these Isle Devs and some of their diehard fans act towards those they express extreme prejudice over for speaking out against their behind the scenes behaviors and/or leaving their team when they can't put up with how disgusting they are to their own community. Some take on these toxic traits when it's exhibited by the head honcho in order to please their senpai, but others realize that's not them and dip. Only to be followed by a mob of lies and slander against them. Take Deathly for example. They have blamed him for numerous issues that they claim are the reasons they can't get their crap together in regards to progressing their own game. He's been the scapegoat of their blame for their inabilities to do right by their fans, and yet people just nod and believe it until time eventually tells the truth. Like what we're seeing here. May want to rethink all the BS they've said about Deathly when you see how dirty they do others. It's a LOT worse for those who're behind the scenes with them because they don't have as much proof as say a YTer like Pesky in this regard to defend themselves. I'm sorry this happened to you Pesky, but I'm glad you're being defended on this scale. Not many others have been so lucky and I hope this situation makes a turning point for people to look at past transgressions with a new viewpoint.
@@aerykgunn Deathly didn't do shit lol. Coders don't make a habit out of "sabotaging" their own code, because it's kind of a lot of work. However, what you can't do is go several months between updating code and then randomly deciding that you want new things added. Which is exactly what Dondi did. Besides, look at PoT, look at how clean and polished that game looks *already* compared to The Isle and it's not even in EA yet.
@@blobbertmcblob4888 While I agree to an extent, it isn't unheard of for someone being let go/fired/whatever to sabotage work, especially if it causes problems for the ones that fired him. Whether or not he did it, no one really has proof either way do they? I'm not saying they did everything right, and it's easy to stand on the back of what came first and build on it. The Isle is a 5 year old game with a shitty foundation that's made it impossible to make the kind of changes they wanted to make. That's why they rebuilt the game from the ground up, whether they were sabotaged or not. Again, Path of Titans is a brand new ip, they have the ability to start at a better place and build on what The Isle already started. Don't get me wrong, PoT looks pretty and I want to be excited for it. But having played it, it definitely feels lacking. 🤷♂️
Let's take a moment to analyze these statements about Pesky and see just how valid they really are. *Paradymshift- Uh....”Make Pesky a content creator!”. No. D-D-Do you want to handle Pesky or do you want me to handle Pesky? As far as the people asking for Pesky for content creator…* *Dondi- Which one’s Pesky? You’re going to have to-* (Dondi himself admits that he has no idea who Pesky even is right off the bat.) *P- That’s the guy who made the “Anky is not a Bad Animal” and basically wrote a hit-piece about Bryan while saying “oh I’m sorry I'm not actually trying to (unintelligable) Bryan."* (Excuse me, what? Did you even watch the video or are you just going off rumors and hearsay? The definition of a hit-piece is, and I quote, "a published article or post aiming to sway public opinion by presenting false or biased information in a way that appears objective and truthful." The claims presented by Pesky are neither false nor biased, making this a flat-out, blatant lie.) *D- No, any-any person who makes obvious flame-bait content like that to shit on one of our developers has no space in my mind, from now until the day I die, as being a content creator for us so you can just...revel in the fucking bed you’ve made and enjoy that. That’s on you bud.* (It’s not flame bait content in the slightest. In fact, literally no one disagrees with the arguments in his video except you and your boot-lickers, but now that you mention it, you don’t seem to have much of a problem when a certain much larger CZcamsr does the exact same thing...interesting, isn't it? Pesky did not once insult or belittle Bryan or any of the other devs in his video. Once again, did you even watch it yourself? You realize you guys aren’t almighty gods right? Your opinions are just that. Opinions.) *P- Yeah, I-I know that’s like a...that's probably not going to be popular with whatever, 4,000 people who subscribed to him but-* (Pesky actually has twice that amount of subscribers and counting, but of course you don’t seem to care, or at least haven’t even looked at the guy’s channel which is painfully apparent.) *D- I don’t care.* (That should tell you everything you need to know about Dondi and this situation.) *P- It’s...it’s...it’s less that like...people have made controversial content about our game before, I mean I don’t really give a shit. It’s when you go “hey”, uh, “I’m not trying to attack-”* (By “controversial content” you mean criticism, right? Criticism that you ignore and "don't give a shit" about?) *D- No, if you’re gonna be a shitbird* *P- “-this one guy and then be a shitbird the entire video”. Like...and I’m usually the gentle one on the team-* *D- He’s been a shitbird* (Okay, tell me this: If you have not once in your life heard or seen someone’s content, how could you possibly, POSSIBLY know he’s been a “shitbird”? You're both actively contradicting yourself and you're proving the assumption that you know nothing about Pesky other than what you've seen or heard from other people.) *P- -but I was the one who initially said no to Pesky when I was asked about it because until some kind of interaction happens, that's like, some form of genuine apology for the amount of bullshit that Bryan got after that video came out by people being fucking trolls and dickheads, like, sorry, I-I have zero sympathy.* (A “genuine apology”? What exactly does Pesky have to apologize for? He’s not in control of his viewers, just as you’re not in control of the fans of your game who go out and belittle other fandoms, but of course I don’t see you guys apologizing on behalf of them, in fact you do it yourselves completely unprovoked. One of your devs made an erroneous claim, and the community corrected it, but no, clearly you’re the victims here because someone disagrees with you. If anyone here should apologize, it's you. Every claim you have made against Pesky is an illogical, hypocritical strawman which crumbles right back down on top of you. You have attacked, lied about, and insulted a member of YOUR own game's community, someone who has spent literal years of his life dedicating time and effort which he will unfortunately never get back to YOUR game, someone who has helped YOU pay YOUR own bills, all because he had the audacity to have an opinion which contradicts your own. YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE AT FAULT and you need learn some respect for both your own good and the good of your game. Be grateful that someone decided to try and help you create a better and more enjoyable product. You aren't omniscient, so don't act like you are. To do otherwise is objectively childish and immature.) Conclusion: The developers do not understand the concept of criticism and do not value or respect the people who support and ultimately helped create their game. You don't need to apologize for anything, Pesky. It's not your fault that they've never heard of community feedback, and it's not your fault a select few individuals supposedly decided to bully someone over an opinion about a playable animal in a video game. The difference between you and them is that you think before you speak, and as long as I'm concerned you're the bigger man in this situation.( Ironic, I know.) Don't *EVER* stop being you, you're one of the greatest content creators for not only The Isle but for dinosaur games as a whole. You're smart, you're funny, and you're genuine, so keep doing what you're doing and know that we're here to support you every step of the way. Thank you.
It's a shame that they call him a "shitposter" and make him look a bad person. They clearly didn't even watch his videos.. Or even KNOW who he really is.
Guess that’s a no on developers being reasonable on accepting criticism and being, well, mature adults that run a company and develop a game. I’m very glad that you didn’t bend the knee and apologize for things you’ve done wrong, and stood your ground while still acknowledging the things you did wrong, that’s very admirable of you, Pesky
It has been clear that the game isn't being developed by mature adults. Did you see the announcement from the other day that announced the content creators can show recode content and game would release in two days? That announcement was so childish. If I had seen how poorly the devs represent themselves and their company I would have not purchased the game.
@@dilberthigh i agree with you on this one if i knew the game was being developed by toddlers i wouldnt buy the game or even primal carnage for that matter (since don and his team made that game too)
Pesky is more adult than the Devs it seems and he's only just turned 18, that says a lot don't it lol... His Anky video was extremely FAIR and logical and yet they treat him like shit for it? Way to go Jao the 2nd cough I mean Dondi.
It’s no secret the devs have always been sensitive of their game. They don’t like criticism, obviously. And if they took the time to watch the whole video and look at the comments, then they would actually know what you were talking about. You didn’t hate on anyone, send anyone after Bryan, nor did you say anything wrong for spouting your opinions. So in truth you didn’t have to apologize for anything, however I’m glad you didn’t apologize for making the video but for at least formally apologizing to Bryan (which you didn’t have to do...). Everyone else on the team was being hypersensitive and had no right to refuse you the content creator tag, especially since you haven’t done anything wrong. I’ve seen the devs talk shît to other games, they come upfront and say what they want about the game and talk down on the style or flow of the game, etc. but the fact that if you just say the Anky should stay and the roster and here’s why, doesn’t deserve the backlash you got from the devs. But it also doesn’t mean anyone going for Bryan’s head because everyone deserves an opinion and if they think they can shut people down and let them not voice it, just means that they don’t want to be wrong and/or are being selfish, self-centered and have their head so far up their aśs (excuse the bad language) that they can’t admit that their wrong or are just talking bs to people who don’t deserve it. Thanks Pesky for keeping ur head held high, your an inspiration to us all!❤️
Yeah it sucks that they tried to paint Pesky as a irrational hater, I still love the Isle. But for the love of God the devs need learn the difference between someone who is hating on them for no reason, and someone who cares about the game and is simply giving them constructive criticism.
Its ok for the isle developer to criticise other games etc and use colourful language too, but they do not like it when their own work is criticised? Just shows bad relations and how egotistical they are, how they deal with people is not on
I honestly hate how cocky they are, all the power has gone to Dondi's head, why can't they just be humble and more adult about things? Absolute children.
I remembered in the discord where Dondi said he's going to make DoD of his own, but even The Isle is sucks ball but he thinks he already up for another game
I don't generally get into these as it's none of my business, but I saw Dondi's comment on you and your video and it was both obnoxious and petty. You just constructed an argument against their own, voicing points that the community has brought up + some of your own and made it take form. You took the time to be thorough and honestly, your points are good, and still they take it as a personal attack for some reason? They say that the community has taken 'the meme too far', but these reactions from them really convey there's something else to all this and that anything as small as a hint of disagreement being taken as personal for a reason undisclosed. Anyways, my support to you, because you don't deserve to be a) left out b) being spoken of in that manner.
He seems to be like the kind of person who always says that he is honest and doesn't care about feelings to cover up how hyper sensitive they actually are. If he were an edgy 14 year old would it be understandable but he he is not, he's a grown adult.
Dude they can make a good game But They're fucking cry babies Geez Someone shares an opinion and they go all "He hurt my feelings!" Pesky is the bigger man in this. I couldn't have apologized to a bunch of babies
@@togglemutt9892 Same, my pride is far too large to apologize for something I shouldn't ever need to. People are too thin skinned these days and it's so fucking pathetic how many people will thrash and cry over such simple and unimportant shit
Honestly, the Devs are everywhere with their game. They are for scientific accuracy, they are against it. They love jokes, they hate them. They are for criticism, they are against it. They are very hypocritical. Honestly, I’m afraid that they will become more like the DoD devs which, if that happens, will make me leave the game because I don’t want to see the Devs become hypocrites who get angry at anything that goes against their opinions.
Andrew Meyer. I don’t want to get a refund. I love the work the devs are doing and the product they are making. I dislike the Devs actions but the product they are making is great.
@@derptard8093 Most people dont want to support people who act like this-hence why some people wish they could refund it. I like the game not the devs however if i could go back and not support it based on their behavior i would. It's the only way they could have consequence.
@@derptard8093 Not once did I say I hate the game. But you know what makes Devs turn their heads? Money. When it comes down to an entire team of developers being this egotistical, words dont do shit, as we've seen they'll just label you a 'shitbird' and claim you wrote a hit piece on someone. But go on and keep licking their boots
You did absolutely nothing wrong, I’m so glad ur standing ur ground against the devs and ur so brave to make a public video criticizing a game with extremely valid arguments where it’s devs cant take the slightest bit of criticism, I support u 100%
Anth sucks up to the Devs but doesn’t know half of the stuff he is showing in his videos. I watch his videos thinking I’m going to learn something but I wind up being more confused because a dev is showing a new feature and you would think He would do his research and know what it is before he puts in a video to his subscribers. He starts guessing what it is and 9 times out of 10 he is wrong.
@@bbell7050 yeah, like the "OMG Tenonto is so small I thought it was bigger"... Like, bruh, you could just Google Tenontosaurus and see how big it is, is that really that hard?
@@karenboy1005 So the way you try to justify pesky being an idiot is to hate on someone who had nothing to do with it? Yeah, no wonder his fanbase went on hate on the discord.
I genuinely think bigger content creators like Beaver and Anthomnia should speak out about this. This type of behaviour should not just be overlooked because they're Dondi and Para and they have plot armour or something.
If Anthomnia actually went against the devs to defend Pesky I'd instantly regain both my respect for him and my faith in humanity. Too bad that'll probably never happen.
Wow I mean u literally were talking about how a animal was viable and giving a reason as to why it could be you intended no harm but wait they can talk all the shit they want 24/7 but as soon as any one else address their opinion they put the boot down. It’s not your fault a joke got out of hand but that’s no reason for them to act that way it’s not only childish but out of left field. This whole ban people and idc attitude is getting a bit much
That's always been how dondi is. I'm happy he is making the game and cares about people who he's close with but dang, he will bring you down with little provocation.
@king emfj3201 My exact fucking thoughts. You even have people in the Discord asking for admins or mods to shut down any channel that so much as mentions this topic. Its pathetic
Pesky, you *are* a content creator. The Devs cannot take critical viewpoints that make the other side of the story visible. They need to understand that. I want to personally apologize AS the devs to you because that is absolute unprofessional behavior they are portraying. You said your side of the story and spoke for the community and an opinion. They are angry and obviously are unreasonable and misunderstanding, and didn’t give you a realistic role. I’m so sorry, Pesky. You really don’t deserve this...
I agree with you but are you an Isle dev, while Pesky deserves an apology from them and it is a nice centament, you should not apologize on behalf of a community you arent a part of
@@irregular_artist8083 A community I'm not a part of? I don't understand that statement or what you mean by it, but as for that part of my statement in terms of apologizing as the Devs was just a mirror of what they should be doing. I don't speak for them obviously and I am not one, but it is just an impression of what their behalf should be.
this reaction should have never happened, but it's completely normal at this point, dondi has banned has gotten people to target people who disagreed with him before. He's called out an under aged girl in a stream who asked about rex balance and called her name out on stream and called her a slut. Not to mention the fact he's basically ruined deathly reputation by making up the code stealing/breaking bullshit.
@@fartmgee bascially it makes no sense as to how he could steal code if he was immediately fired and had to go home to Australia, not to mention dondi has never tryed to prove or take legal action with his claims, not to mention if you know the kind of person dondi is he's not honest, period. Deathly was fired due to disagreements with the games direction, which is ironic considering the current situation
@@vividsky1669 If Deathly would have literally sabotaged Dondi's and the rest of the devs' project, you would absolutely expect them to sue the shit out of Death;y, but they never did that, so that should give an indication that that was just Dondi being trigerred by Deathly being independent, or what Deathly did do wrong was nowhere near as bad as Dondi made it out to be. Knowing how much of a man-baby Dondi is, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. This is just my take on it, I could be completely wrong and something else could be going on.
@@karenboy1005 nah ur pretty much bang on, also in PoT he has his real name and face displayed on the website, also i've talked to the guy several times and he's a really nice guy
The devs are huge jerks, like don't take it so seriously, he likes the game, he GAVE you money! He is more than valid to be able to give criticism! Some of the devs have there heads to far up themselves. It is a simulation game about dinosaurs, dead creatures that they aren't professionals about. You don't own dinosaurs and how they would act. It was a suggestion to make a game better. I mean them no ill intent, but they are acting like children. I like Anky, most people do. So chill. Abuse of power over a video addressing bad logic. I'm so sorry Pesky. You payed for his food, and whatnot, but it's not your fault.
There is this quote I read a while back it said something like love the product not the person/people. And I that applies here, you yourself did not do anything wrong by stating an opinion and backing it up with fact and evidence. I feel as if they should learn what is criticism v.s. what is cirque. Yes I understand that people will get defensive when talking about a subject but this was truly not something to get heated over. You deserve that content creator name. You work quite hard on the things you do and you have made a pretty good name for yourself and I commend you for that. If you get along to reading this I hope you and everyone else has a wonderful day and, I mean no harm by what I say. Everyone has a right to their own opinions and also has a right to share them at will.
This genuinely makes me terrified of publicly giving criticism of this game. I'm not a content creator in the slightest but it's worrying to think the devs of one of my favorite games could hate me after I give my personal criticism. I love the game as much as anyone, but it has flaws just like everything else. Myself and I'm sure many others didn't take your video as an attack, nor do I think it can be proven by simple nitpicking. It clearly wasn't your intention to send people to attack Bryan, those did it on their own behalf even if it was caused from your video. I really hope things calm down and everyone takes the time to sit back and just think about it. We all have opinions and some people may not agree with them; how we respond shows a lot about us as a person. To whomever read this, have a great rest of your day/night. Here's a virtual slice of cake to hopefully make your day a bit better. 🍰
It's so sad. We're afraid to give criticism because these whiny man-babies will go Stalin on our accounts and ban or harass us and some shit. For what?? Criticism? I have lost all understanding for Dondi and the other devs who find his attitude acceptable, and the ones who kneel down and kiss his toes and praise the developers. "tHanK yOU deVs yOu woRked sO hArd", ugh. They are hired as game developers of course they fucking work on games, that's their JOB, but their priority should also be treating others with respect. No matter who you are, especially if you have a platform, basic respect and politeness shouldn't be thrown out of the window.
The problem with The Isle is that the devs are very childish and the community is very toxic for the most part. The game is good but everything about the players and the devs makes me feel like i can't enjoy anything about the isle. Just because they worked hard on something doesn't mean there still isn't room for improvement. TLDR: The Isle developers have an abnormally large ego
I dont think id call the community itself toxic, I've rarely had unfavorable encounters, but I do agree sometimes the dev team can be very toxic, even though I still love them.
@@irregular_artist8083 honestly the only dev i mostly see as a toxic asshole is dondi. he always take shit about something in his stream and if someone disagrees with them on stream he will be "nope fuck you, I'm right your wrong, end of story"
Indeed. I do enjoy playing the aisle but on big servers like Isla Nycta People are so touchy-feely. Honestly get a back bone and grow up. I also hate the players that went after Brian because they’re just as irresponsible as the Devs
One of the intresting things about him ive noticed is that on a repeated basis he has constantly tried making the game at an ungodly level of difficulty because he seems to find it funny to watch players torture themselves, which may be one of the reasons the comunity is so very jumpy and quick to anger, because the game they love, and probably spend the most time playing, is literally designed to kill you. Idk, maybe we should explore the psyche of the game itself... And why the comunity may be the way it is, seems to be an intresting subject to explore, not that id do it myself too much work i have other stuff to worry about XD
Well, don't mention this in the discord guys, cause the mods are ready to ban you for just uttering Pesky's name. It's actually ridiculous. We aren't even allowed to have a civil discussion about it without being silenced.
Herro 雌犬 yep just experienced it, when asked they said the situation was resolved with a DM between pesky and para and too stop talking about it , when ppl continued talking about it someone ( I believe an admin but I could be wrong) treated to ping a mod if the topic didn’t change
It's just sad to see such a childish attitude coming from an adult developer of a game with a huge follower number. Constructive Criticism is something that developers should be more flexible and enthusiastic around in order to make a more environmentally hospitable fanbase about their game. Dondi just treats any form of criticism like a threat and THAT kind of aggressive and childish attitude is one of the main reasons as to why the game has such a toxic fanbase. But don't worry, we got your back Pesky. You are not in the wrong here.
Since this is an apology video. You should have been On Camera, with a Grey hoodie, and a thumbnail of you crying. You didnt do anything wrong. Im sorry that you didnt get CC. You dont need it. Your channel is still growing 😄
Because The Isle devs LOVE criticism... towards their competitors, that is. But if you criticize their own game? CONSTRUCTIVE criticism at that? Well that's a big no-no; off to the CC blcklist for you.
Because Isle devs are cancer, immature and amateur in their profession. If it wasn't for die hard dino fan (Totally a thing) not having a good dino game, the Isle would die.
Glad you stand your ground Pesky, you did nothing wrong. I hope the devs will think a bit about this situation and learn from it. Much love from another small isle youtuber
Dondi has a history of being immature and toxic. I'm honestly surprised The Isle has managed to last as long as it did with the drama that's happened in the past; I still remember the drama about LeviaDraconia having the skins she made for the game removed.
You are a content creator and no lack of a purple name tag can change that. Just for an opinion, you’ll get the update right alongside your subscribers and, where the world is today, it’s almost lucky that it’s all you get. We’re going in as a family, standing with you, proudly!
I feel like Dondi had no idea who you are and just went with what Para said about you, which was completely wrong. I completely agree with you here, your video was very obviously criticism by someone who cares about the game and not some troll just flamebaiting and I think Para, the PR guy of the team (I think?) should handle situations like this better. I'm really conflicted about this because I love the devs' work, but stuff like this really discourages me and makes it hard to support their game.
It's not his fault And people didnt Go After big baby Bryan They just spammed anky memes! Cause they like anky. Like Oh no They're sending memes that I disagree with! Someone ban him!
@@radcoon1610 He really shouldn't have to? He put a disclaimer in the beginning of the video stating that it was not a hate video. Nobody should have to be told "don't hate on this person." If people want to hate, they will regardless whether they were given "permission" or not.
@@Tess1596 I fucking know that people would have hated on bryan still, I'm just saying if he put a disclaimer saying not to hate on him then at least some people wouldn't have. Because the trolls probably thought "If he never said we couldn't hate, then its fair game"
And I'm guessing Depleon didn't get CC either for being YT friends with you. I'd expect that type of childish behavior from The Isle devs, not gonna lie.
I watched them say this on stream and I was just shocked. How can grown men be that childish and immature towards your video? How was the actions of absolute trolls be your fault? I know people usually take it to the next level but still, it would be okay if the same thing happened to them and people went after you, because fairly, they DIDN'T put out a disclaimer to not go after you, which to be fair some people could want to harass you, it really sucks so much. Be proud that you are a better person than them. Your response is an actual response with fair points and not some immature man children crying over a genuinely fair video. Keep it up, you're doing great.
i swear if they remove your access to the isle ill be furious, those babies cant take constructive criticism and they're so rude. you did nothing wrong, you deserve content creator. also, what a coincedence! my birthday is today.
I never watched any of your video's and not planning to, but this thing they played on you is the biggest BS. I've seen countless people get silenced for giving constructive criticism so it's nothing new. Good for you standing your ground. Dondi and some of his team are acting so immature it's unbelievable. I stopped playing for a while for this very reason. I like the game but I despise it's creators for being such immature, unprofessional devs and persons.
It seems to be hitting already, people are already leaving The Isle and going to play Path of Titans instead just because the lack of updates to The Isle.
I’m not surprised that this occurred, the devs of The Isle are completely unprofessional. Never before have I seen game devs who cant take criticism in such a manner, it’s almost like they forget people pay for their game.
You should not be held responsible for the actions of others even when you told them not to do what they did. They made a conscious choice to attack Bryan and you didn't incentivise them.
I really wish the 40 ppl to give this video a thumbs down, would give a reason for it in the comments. I haven't watched the anky video, but I was in Dondis stream when the conversation happened, and I was in chock. I've played with u once and from the videos I have seen, you have always been friendly and civil. Keep up the good work 💕
There's always been jokes about, "haha no opinions here" in the isle community, but now that the game has gathered more players than ever I think the devs need to sit back and rethink their situation. I mean, just looking in the discord general chat, there are constantly people saying shit like, "woah, be careful, dondi might see that you have an opinion" or something along those lines. I mean, all the devs have to do is just look at the chat and realise theres an issue, but apparently thats too hard. Also, if you're the lead developer to a now large game that has an even larger community, you'd think that maybe you'd resort to something more professional than calling someone names on a stream live to thousands of people. I love this game but whenever an issue appears within the community its always shoved away with some piss poor response from the devs. I think that they are extremely skilled at doing what they love, and I know that controlling a community this large would be an extreme challenge, but just because youre in a high position of power doesnt mean that you're completely untouchable by criticism. I love the game and everything it stands for, I also have nothing against any of the devs, but there comes a point when enough is enough.
The problem is that they aren't even a little mature. Just look at the announcement yesterday that said the game would release in two days. It was nearly impossible to read because of the constant and childish side comment. If I had seen how poorly the devs represent themselves and their company then I wouldn't have purchased the game.
Well as with the rest of your community and as a friend I support you bro I never felt your anky video was done to be a hit piece and I know it was just constructive criticism. Either way you are doing the right thing and I hope they understand because it is a real shame they took it the way they did. As always though I got your back as do the rest of your community.
Plus you actually gave cool ideas that they could've used. I don't get why they're so pissed about you being a person that enjoys a game and voices your opinion and try to make a positive change to improve the game. I don't get why the devs are even attacking you when you just stated your opinion while people who watched the video decided to attack the dev.
I've been playing the isle for yeaaaaars. The dev team have always been very sensitive because they are led by a very sensitive man who honestly has never been able to take critisicism or even be tolerable to listen to imo. I love the game but the dev team has always been its weakest point. I dont think you did anything wrong. You gave some critiques and it got out of hand with some people which is unfortunate but if the dev team just wants to sit in a echo chamber they should probably just stick to anthomnia and their own discord server I guess.
Question, i completely agree with you by the way, whats everyone's issue with anthomnia, I love watching him and sometimes his content bores me but I've seen a lot of controversy about him
@@irregular_artist8083 From what i've seen when anthomnia and dondi interact, dondi will insult the crap out of anthomnia. Anthomnia will typically just nod and laugh. Sometimes he'll joke back though. There's also this weird feeling in there conversations. Don't know how to describe it, maybe pandering?
People are allowed to have opinions, And I feel sorry for you and bryan No one deserves to be mobbed. And thats Why I left the isle community a while back.
Abyzzol ok off topic here. I get the DoD fan base, seen it myself, but furries? I’m not into it personally but how is dressing up or drawings fuzzy animal sensitive? I am so confused.
I just got banned because I mentioned Nigersaurus. The devs didn't know this pretty famous dinosaur was real, and they, without warning, banned me. Path of Titans might be the way to go.
But you didn't insult Bryan. You gave a disclaimer in the vid along with your criticism and reason why anky isn't a bad animal. The fact that they aren't allowed to br a content creator for the isle is absolutely stupid. Edit: I'm part of their discord and I'm disgusted b the devs. They said about the clips "interpret how you watched it." Excuse me you guys called him out saying HE started the flame war. It wasn't his fault people don't listen. I'm sorry Pesky you didn't get recode content creator but i will forever watch your channel. ^^
I got banned from the discord for posting an anky meme lost month. it wasnt offensive at all and Punchpacket has been ignoring my appeal. but what they have done to Pesky is the last straw for me. i have no respect for the devs.
it wasnt pesky fault for Bryan problems with community Bryan went after beloved by community dino with out any solid arguments and he got what he sow after he sugested that anky can not be playable dino Was the pesky vid reason for that NO but it was voice of part of the community with many agree it s sad to see old way of *if the argument is against us, it is even worse for the argument*
From my long experience in The Isle community Dondi has been characteristically horrible in handling criticism even going as far as to read negative steam reviews on his Twitch stream, which I find incredibly disgusting. Anyone who doesn't believe what he says without question gets verbally belittled and harassed by not only him, but his army of bootlickers. I've seen friends of mine (though I don't talk to them now) treated like shit for attempting to push for criticism in how the game works. (Predatoria, Hilla007) Granted these situations are unique in their own substantiation and scale, but they were unique situations met with vile toxicity and condescension none the less. When I felt the game was at it's worst, I wrote a long pointed negative review. Naturally, out of anxiety and fear of it being READ ALOUD ON TWITCH and getting HARASSED, I brought it down. I appreciate The Isle as a dinosaur game once close to my heart, but I've been incredibly let down by the community as well as lead development. A player should not fear being harassed or flamed for criticizing something they payed money for. To wrap up my rambling, I thought their general response had improved, but upon watching this video as well as the Ankylosaurus one, I'm saddened to see that they have fallen into old habits and I will continue to not engage with this game and it's vile, childish community/devs.
EXCUSE ME??? Your video was completely valid and made some great points. If they can’t keep open minds and see other points of view then maybe I don’t want to support the Isle
Hey Pesky, I wanted to apologize for all this, you truly didn't deserve all this backlash for making a video that was ultimately just you disagreeing with Bryan. I admittedly didn't understand the whole situation when I first heard about it and truly thought the video you made was a "hit piece" on Bryan, I originally thought you were shitting on Bryan because you disagreed about the Anky. However, after seeing what people had to say I watched your original video about this whole Anky situation and realized that you really weren't being rude or inflammatory towards Bryan or anyone really. So I wanted to come here and apologize to you directly (or as directly as I can with a CZcams comment) about misunderstanding and just assuming the situation was as one-dimensional as the devs laid it out to be on stream. Truly I should have looked at both sides before coming to a conclusion about the whole thing and I hope this whole thing blows over for you man. Again, truly sorry for both my mistakes, and for the shit you've taken unwarranted from the developers.
It’s all good my friend. Misinformation spreads super quickly in this day and age, and it’s easy to get caught up in drama. Try not to worry about it too much, as writing this comment was more than enough of a display of support for me
I think you handled that well. You acted calm and addressed the topic in a polite manner. It's sad to see this all happen to you because you seem like a very nice guy. Also to anybody else who is reading this, don't attack the developers, don't rage in the comments, just don't be jerks. If the devs are being jerks you don't stoop to their level because it makes you seem like a you're also a bad person. Pesky said it himself he doesn't want anyone harassing the devs and he doesn't want anybody to be rude in the comments.
So it's okay for Dondi to throw shade at Beasts Of Bermuda because of a mechanic he doesn't like, but when you make a *constructive* critique about The Isle with valid points the devs *DEMAND* an apology. Yeah that's gonna be a yikes from me.
The developers of The Isle are the least professional devs I have ever known. They are so toxic and quite frankly it irritates me how this community is unable to punish them for it. Also anyone who is close to the dev team is so scared to say anything negative incase they get punished for it or just shouted out of the community. Look at Anthomnia, he will occasionally say something bad but instantly say 'oh its just my opinion and its still work in progress'. Its sad.
The Dev team are absolute man-babies. They ban people on discord for asking legitimate questions, there isn't any discernable FAQ in place that I could find on the website or discord. They said they'd tone down the sass in announcements and yet they continue to talk down to their whole fanbase as if they were some emotionally unavailable step-mother ridiculing their children. Not to mention a content creator SHOULD be able to make constructive content on a game that has been kinda dead for the last year update wise, they should be thrilled he's creating free PR for the game. It riles me up thinking a bunch of 30-year-old 'adults' is actually bullying a teenager, they need to take a step back and re-evaluate how they talk to people. To be honest, if I knew how terrible these devs were before I bought the game last year I'd probably just steer clear of it altogether.
That's one of the things that really bother me about this and not enough people are pointing it out in the comments. At the end of the day, these are 2 grown ass adults and Pesky is basically just a kid, and they're openly insulting him and ridiculing him for making a video that bothered them. This is quite literally mind buggling.
I'm sorry you had to go through this, its not your fault, its the fault of the people who attacked Bryan and used the video as flame bait. I think the devs felt that Bryan was attacked but the fact that they can't respond to criticism in a civil manner even when its constructive makes giving out any criticism really hard and can hurt the game. the people who should be punished are the people who used the video as flame bait and attacked Bryan, not you.
oh well lets see what up edit: what happend wasnt your fault since you did make a disclaimer its the peoples fault and what the devs did was really unprofessional which is just i think unacceptable
I think the problem here isn't Pesky or Bryan it's the people who saw the video or parts of it and as they changed what information they got from the video when they passed it on too others and then those people where hating on Bryan because they where missinformed. Honestly people need to actually pay atention to disclaimers and when someone is making sugestions for how things could change for the better and not go attack the devs saying you need to change this but without giving all the the sugestions that you gave. So in other words those people are pricks and they need to change how they act or all of this drama that isn't needed can bazz off. I really want The Isle to be a good game, I really do since the moment it came out but its drama and peole like this that are holding it back.
Honestly the devs absolutely disgust me, this is why I hate the devs even if they fix this with you. I learned that from this YOU CANNOT DISAGREE with the devs or you get this treatment.
Wow your pretty good at primal carnage
agreed
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Pesky: civil discussion and well thought out points as to why the anky is a good animal; countering Brians points.
Devs: calls Pesky names and is extremely petty and offended as well as blames and punishes Pesky for things other people did
If someone told me that one group was a teenager with a youtube channel and the other an adult with a development job I would not believe that the adults acted that way. I only just found out pesky is 18, dude acts more mature then university students I know.
Yep! This situation in a nutshell right there!
Literally all the isle devs have always been a POS since the start especially especially especially Dondi. Hecc I’ll take any of the devs over Dondi.
Riiight? Can't wait for a better dinosaur game! xD
Mighty ironic that the Isle dev team calls people out constantly but the minute somebody does the same to them they feel attacked smh.
Preach, Scanova
@Krona Abelisaurids for life.
They got rid of people getting access to type-H & called them scum... well maybe don't take 3 plus years to deliver something that has more work in it then the dinosaurs already in the game now.
True tho
I came here after someone made an expose video and used your comment!
It's sad to see someone who has been supporting the isle for years get called a shitbird by the developers.
yap it's just sad, they didnt even watch the Video.
The video needs to be watched before they start criticizing u, otherwise they making arguments with no "evidence"
@@whisperingangel8735 "being a shitbird the entire video" If that's being a shitbird I really want to know what their reaction to an actual hate video would be
Absolutely awful, punished for having a different opinion isn't good developer behaviour. You shouldnt apologise for a Internet mob you couldn't *possibly* have ANY control over. Even if you had asked in that video for the community to not go after Bryan.
No developer should get any shit, but it clearly wasn't a hate vid. We support you Pesky ♡ they are being really juvenile.
Imagine if it was the gaming beaver instead sheesh the isle would have been canceled
Kinda sad when the developers, which are grown adults, are behaving like children
facts
The entire dev team acts like that. Oh you should have seen the backlash on the steam comments a month or so ago when they *finally* "updated" the steam news with a big, long novel that wasn't even an update.
Paradymshift got his ass handed to him and he whined like a little bitch lol
I mean they kinda are pretty childish........
I mean I went into a twitch stream a month back and asked about the isle once while they were playing a different game.
And I got made fun of with words like “weird Dino kid” or “get the fuck out of here”
And when I replied with what the fuck and a 😂 emoji and what they did afterwards was ban a person that wasn’t even me and they were like meh.
It’s why I never try try and show up to there streams anymore cause all of they’re community as a whole is toxic.
Most people are sadly most "grown adults" arent actualy mature infact some children are more mature then "grown adults"
@@-touya_todoroki I saw children like that several times.
Don straight up admitted in one of beavers videos that he doesn’t watch almost any content creators, but rather just hears what’s going on by what people tell him, so he probably didn’t.
is there somewhere where i can find where he says this, not trying to say he didnt
@@dexwave2653 It's the one where he lets beaver play as hypos
Edit: Found the link lol czcams.com/video/NHMD_FNO9Gs/video.html at about 2:14
@@lustrazor44 who was the developer that leaves the game?? that guy problably was the brain of the game since he left the the dev team the game stops evolve, how many time passed until they released a patch?
Flying Berserker i think its deathly. The creator of Path of Titans
Typical don
The way they handled it is unprofessional and frankly embarrassing
FACTS all of them..especially DONDI are bullies tbh.
@@Santa-614 true
They are allowed to not acted professionally, I would rather have someone be themselves than a facade.
However I agree it is embarrassing.
If I was Pesky I'd be so gutted, why hate him like this? It's so wrong... Pesky did NOTHING wrong! Unbelievable... Wtf Devs??
You could say they really Day of Dragon'd him :D
listen to me king. you shouldn’t have had to make this video. you are 100% in the right in my eyes. i applaud you for standing your ground and standing behind your own opinion (unlike some people). ily
Ya
Why is that? His video cause people to send hate and shit to Brian. And to shit on someone helping make the game you want to play and you want to get content creator? If your making something and someone says, hey, the wrong are you just going to sit there and take that shit? No. It was a joke. Everyone fucking knew that. Everyone.
@@SufferingJax If it's a joke, why would anyone care enough to send hate to Bryan, and even then how is it Pesky's fault?
@@SufferingJax its not his fault a bunch of dumbasses decided to hate on bryan because of a video he did , he has no control over people watching his videos
@@SufferingJax Just here to remind you 3 years later that your comment was and still is an L take.
Isle Devs really continue to lose what little respect I had for them.
ikr. I actually got banned from the discord becasuse i posted an anky meme. and it wasnt even offensive
Frostbite The Badass Ice Carnotaurus tell me about it I posted this #teampesky and changed my name to have it and they went after me saying I hate the isle (granted I hate the devs) but also said this “you having that makes fun of foszors cancer” I hate the player base and devs
@@DrSpoon-iu4hs most of the player base and the devs ate toxic the devs cant take criticism nd start acting like the day of dragons devs and then the community of the game is the most toxic going after other dinasaur games just because they want the isle to be the almighty dinasaur game (for example look at when beasts of bermuda and path of titans where Linda realesed to the public and yes I know path of titans is still in the works )it's just sad the entire player base acts like children
@@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574 really?? Oh that sucks man
Im honestly just here for the damn game cause everyone there is a shitbird too.
This legit made me lose respect for Dondi and the devs. No one is allowed to have an opinion anymore.
this is nowhere where near the first time something like this happened which is the sad thing, this is the first time it's out in broad daylight
Ye smth like that happend rly often tbh
same
Zemaroon i reckon path of titans could be good :) it looks like a good game
shoulda seen when they banned or kicked some person from the discord for putting an emote react on a mods msg lol
I Respect Pesky for being one of the very few people to actually have the balls to talk about the games problems and what he wants to see the game improve with, unlike the other dick riding content creators who are to afraid to critique the game and always complement everything about the game. I find it hard seeing this game improve because Dondi doesn’t listen to anyone and only does what he wants and doesn’t care what the players want. Pesky don’t suck up to these idiots.
Athiest Nihilist good point but also try to keep someThoughts to your self. and say mums soul I agree with almost every thing you said
Anthomnia is a hardcore bootlicker, I can't listen to him anymore. I prefer realistic people. And pesky was realistic and fair in that anky video.
yes that right
Damn well said 👌
@@undeadwerewolves9463 ikr I used to be such a big fan of his content but after a while it got really boring just listening to anth praise everything about the isle and not giving actual criticism about the game
Bruh, I've just lost what little respect I had left for Dondi.
Same!!
I had very little all ready
yeah im not sure how anyone likes him anymore, i think he tries to be funny but he just comes across as rude and ignorant
I’m right there with ya!
Same I thought he was just laid back but now this has opened my eyes.
The anky video was fine and well-thought out. Refusing access to a content creator just because they have OpinionsTM is bonkers. EDIT after watching the whole thing: Pesky shouldn't need to apologize. He made an interesting video voicing his thoughts. He's not psychic--how on earth could he know that people would go after Bryan (which is really, really weird behaviour). People make videos like that for every game imaginable. The video creator is not responsible for what random wackos do (unless they specifically say "go flame this guy!" which Pesky did not). Holding him accountable for the actions of others is ridiculous.
You’ve handled this really maturely. The way the devs handled it was really immature and completely unfair of them to act like that towards someone who has been supporting the game and showing it to a wider audience. They absolutely shouldn’t be treating content creators or players like this and I hope they learn how to better handle situations like this in the future
Tbh it’s sad that they apparently can’t see that people offer up constructive criticism /because/ they love the game and it’s important to them. They really need to learn to respect and take on board the opinions of their players in general or they won’t continue growing as devs
I have mixed feelings on "I hope they learn how to better handle situations like this in the future" ... if they can act like that, there is no hope unless half the playerbase disappear or almost completely..
“Wrote a hit piece about Bryan.” Are you f***ing kidding me? They clearly didn’t even watch the whole video.
right??
If someone even looks at the dev team wrong im pretty sure they'd lose their shit.
The devs were angry because of the way the community responded to Pesky’s video. Clearly Pesky didn’t mean for that sort of backlash, but it wouldn’t have happened if not for his Anky video. The devs care for one another, and they have to deal with one of the most toxic communities out there. Remember that.
LieutenantTrashcan that doesn’t mean they had to punish Pesky for it is the thing. He couldn’t help how some people are assholes, and even if Pesky did blatantly try to start a flamewar Dondi and Paradym had no right to react as unprofessionally as they did. Makes them and the game itself look bad as a result.
'Anky is actually viable'
Looks like someone hates bryan, time to attack!
Damn the devs really need to learn the difference between flamebaiting and legit constructive criticism. I never viewed the anky video as a hate video but as a legit argument for why the anky should be in the game. I feel like the devs are focusing on the wrong aspects of the video and not realising what the true intention of the video was. If Dondi and his team won't learn to take constructive criticism I fear we'll end up in a situation similar to Day of Dragons where anyone who asks legit questions about the game will be called a hater and banned without hesitation. I fully support Pesky in this, I feel like the devs owe him an apology for talking about him the way they did when they clearly hadn't watched the anky video or any of his other videos. They are the ones spreading lies and misinformation, not Pesky!
To them EVERYTHING is baiting, anything you say in the discord gets tagged as baiting by the cucks in chat.
The devs don’t care about the anky video, it’s already confirmed. They care about Bryan, and he received a lot of hate for merely voicing his opinion on the anky. Sound familiar? I’m sure Pesky didn’t mean for his viewers to react in such a hateful manner towards Bryan, but they did and that was a direct result of Pesky’s video.
So what? Pesky can't make a criticism video because assholes exist?
LieutenantTrashcan That doesnt excuse how they acted in return. Its still not Peskys fault.
Saint Whether or not you think their actions are excused does not matter. They have no obligation to suck up to anyone in the isle community.
Please be civil in the comments, everyone. I shouldn’t really have to say it but yet here we are.
@@Nazqua The devs have a history of acting like kids with god complex so its no surprise that they did that.
Wish the devs were civil
I'm glad you made this video though, because this is nowhere near the first time something such as this happened, now that it's in the public eye people will hopefully understand the truth about the devs, more specifically dondi
Doesn’t this sound a bit like day of dragons ? With toddler like behaving devs and I whole heartedly agree with your apology and points .
Poor pesky
Dondi is a child when it comes to criticism. He can't take anyone saying anything and just makes a series of passive aggressive comments and tries to play off how pissed he is. I've never seen a grown adult who can't handle basic minor criticism. For gods sake
EXACTLY.
He said be civil
then dont give him criticism. easy. Go to the feedback channel and write there smh
@@sagex632 You do know that content creators can post opinions and constructive speeches about a topic on a video platform site, correct?
Dondi literally said "I'm just a bid kid who likes dinosaur", Pesky didn't clarify enough or how important it is, to not hate on them, and then guess what happened? He got shit on.
This reminds me of the IGP and day of dragons drama... devs need to be able to take criticism or their game will never improve
It's all these
Early access basement 3 man teams that are acting this way.
A bunch of unprofessional low self esteemed drama queens
@@togglemutt9892 exactly they aren't going far in life.
Been watching this entire situation unfold, and quite frankly I completely agree with you. I've rewatched your video quite a few times and I genuinely cannot figure out what part of the video would incite flamebaiting, you aren't in control of the aggressive mongoloids who shoved that video down everyone's collective throats and completely mistook the point of the video. I admire you for sticking your ground while also clearly making an effort to make things right. I genuinely respect that.
@@fartmgee yeah, I know, I thought he was just a myth.
YES, i rewatched it to and dont see anywhere pesky might have overstepped a boundary, its not his fault that other people decided to attack a dev, pesky cant control others :/
Thanks Jaffad, you and the rest of the boys have been there to support me for so long through so much, and I can’t express how grateful I am for that.
He used mongoloid o7
The thing that baffles me is how people seem to now be REALLY realizing how these Isle Devs and some of their diehard fans act towards those they express extreme prejudice over for speaking out against their behind the scenes behaviors and/or leaving their team when they can't put up with how disgusting they are to their own community. Some take on these toxic traits when it's exhibited by the head honcho in order to please their senpai, but others realize that's not them and dip. Only to be followed by a mob of lies and slander against them.
Take Deathly for example. They have blamed him for numerous issues that they claim are the reasons they can't get their crap together in regards to progressing their own game. He's been the scapegoat of their blame for their inabilities to do right by their fans, and yet people just nod and believe it until time eventually tells the truth. Like what we're seeing here. May want to rethink all the BS they've said about Deathly when you see how dirty they do others. It's a LOT worse for those who're behind the scenes with them because they don't have as much proof as say a YTer like Pesky in this regard to defend themselves.
I'm sorry this happened to you Pesky, but I'm glad you're being defended on this scale. Not many others have been so lucky and I hope this situation makes a turning point for people to look at past transgressions with a new viewpoint.
Honestly, how can we trust anything that Dondi says at this point?
man don`t say any of this dondi is a nice guy
Is Deathly the one they claim sabotaged the code?
@@aerykgunn Deathly didn't do shit lol. Coders don't make a habit out of "sabotaging" their own code, because it's kind of a lot of work.
However, what you can't do is go several months between updating code and then randomly deciding that you want new things added. Which is exactly what Dondi did.
Besides, look at PoT, look at how clean and polished that game looks *already* compared to The Isle and it's not even in EA yet.
@@blobbertmcblob4888 While I agree to an extent, it isn't unheard of for someone being let go/fired/whatever to sabotage work, especially if it causes problems for the ones that fired him. Whether or not he did it, no one really has proof either way do they?
I'm not saying they did everything right, and it's easy to stand on the back of what came first and build on it. The Isle is a 5 year old game with a shitty foundation that's made it impossible to make the kind of changes they wanted to make. That's why they rebuilt the game from the ground up, whether they were sabotaged or not.
Again, Path of Titans is a brand new ip, they have the ability to start at a better place and build on what The Isle already started. Don't get me wrong, PoT looks pretty and I want to be excited for it. But having played it, it definitely feels lacking. 🤷♂️
Your maturity and integrity here are seriously impressive. Keep doing your thing, dude.
Let's take a moment to analyze these statements about Pesky and see just how valid they really are.
*Paradymshift- Uh....”Make Pesky a content creator!”. No. D-D-Do you want to handle Pesky or do you want me to handle Pesky? As far as the people asking for Pesky for content creator…*
*Dondi- Which one’s Pesky? You’re going to have to-*
(Dondi himself admits that he has no idea who Pesky even is right off the bat.)
*P- That’s the guy who made the “Anky is not a Bad Animal” and basically wrote a hit-piece about Bryan while saying “oh I’m sorry I'm not actually trying to (unintelligable) Bryan."*
(Excuse me, what? Did you even watch the video or are you just going off rumors and hearsay? The definition of a hit-piece is, and I quote, "a published article or post aiming to sway public opinion by presenting false or biased information in a way that appears objective and truthful." The claims presented by Pesky are neither false nor biased, making this a flat-out, blatant lie.)
*D- No, any-any person who makes obvious flame-bait content like that to shit on one of our developers has no space in my mind, from now until the day I die, as being a content creator for us so you can just...revel in the fucking bed you’ve made and enjoy that. That’s on you bud.*
(It’s not flame bait content in the slightest. In fact, literally no one disagrees with the arguments in his video except you and your boot-lickers, but now that you mention it, you don’t seem to have much of a problem when a certain much larger CZcamsr does the exact same thing...interesting, isn't it? Pesky did not once insult or belittle Bryan or any of the other devs in his video. Once again, did you even watch it yourself? You realize you guys aren’t almighty gods right? Your opinions are just that. Opinions.)
*P- Yeah, I-I know that’s like a...that's probably not going to be popular with whatever, 4,000 people who subscribed to him but-*
(Pesky actually has twice that amount of subscribers and counting, but of course you don’t seem to care, or at least haven’t even looked at the guy’s channel which is painfully apparent.)
*D- I don’t care.*
(That should tell you everything you need to know about Dondi and this situation.)
*P- It’s...it’s...it’s less that like...people have made controversial content about our game before, I mean I don’t really give a shit. It’s when you go “hey”, uh, “I’m not trying to attack-”*
(By “controversial content” you mean criticism, right? Criticism that you ignore and "don't give a shit" about?)
*D- No, if you’re gonna be a shitbird*
*P- “-this one guy and then be a shitbird the entire video”. Like...and I’m usually the gentle one on the team-*
*D- He’s been a shitbird*
(Okay, tell me this: If you have not once in your life heard or seen someone’s content, how could you possibly, POSSIBLY know he’s been a “shitbird”? You're both actively contradicting yourself and you're proving the assumption that you know nothing about Pesky other than what you've seen or heard from other people.)
*P- -but I was the one who initially said no to Pesky when I was asked about it because until some kind of interaction happens, that's like, some form of genuine apology for the amount of bullshit that Bryan got after that video came out by people being fucking trolls and dickheads, like, sorry, I-I have zero sympathy.*
(A “genuine apology”? What exactly does Pesky have to apologize for? He’s not in control of his viewers, just as you’re not in control of the fans of your game who go out and belittle other fandoms, but of course I don’t see you guys apologizing on behalf of them, in fact you do it yourselves completely unprovoked. One of your devs made an erroneous claim, and the community corrected it, but no, clearly you’re the victims here because someone disagrees with you. If anyone here should apologize, it's you. Every claim you have made against Pesky is an illogical, hypocritical strawman which crumbles right back down on top of you. You have attacked, lied about, and insulted a member of YOUR own game's community, someone who has spent literal years of his life dedicating time and effort which he will unfortunately never get back to YOUR game, someone who has helped YOU pay YOUR own bills, all because he had the audacity to have an opinion which contradicts your own. YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE AT FAULT and you need learn some respect for both your own good and the good of your game. Be grateful that someone decided to try and help you create a better and more enjoyable product. You aren't omniscient, so don't act like you are. To do otherwise is objectively childish and immature.)
Conclusion: The developers do not understand the concept of criticism and do not value or respect the people who support and ultimately helped create their game. You don't need to apologize for anything, Pesky. It's not your fault that they've never heard of community feedback, and it's not your fault a select few individuals supposedly decided to bully someone over an opinion about a playable animal in a video game. The difference between you and them is that you think before you speak, and as long as I'm concerned you're the bigger man in this situation.( Ironic, I know.) Don't *EVER* stop being you, you're one of the greatest content creators for not only The Isle but for dinosaur games as a whole. You're smart, you're funny, and you're genuine, so keep doing what you're doing and know that we're here to support you every step of the way. Thank you.
It's a shame that they call him a "shitposter" and make him look a bad person. They clearly didn't even watch his videos.. Or even KNOW who he really is.
i feel like this should be quoted on the discord of theirs
Well they’re bad, but at least they aren’t as bad as the Day of Dragons developer
@@kid.hudson_ I suppose that's true. There's always a bigger fish huh?
@@rexy132 Not unless the poster wants to be banned, since free speech isn't allowed.
Guess that’s a no on developers being reasonable on accepting criticism and being, well, mature adults that run a company and develop a game.
I’m very glad that you didn’t bend the knee and apologize for things you’ve done wrong, and stood your ground while still acknowledging the things you did wrong, that’s very admirable of you, Pesky
Maybe the gaming beaver can say something in the matter but he doesn't really mingle in things like this
It has been clear that the game isn't being developed by mature adults. Did you see the announcement from the other day that announced the content creators can show recode content and game would release in two days? That announcement was so childish. If I had seen how poorly the devs represent themselves and their company I would have not purchased the game.
@@dilberthigh i agree with you on this one if i knew the game was being developed by toddlers i wouldnt buy the game or even primal carnage for that matter (since don and his team made that game too)
Pesky is more adult than the Devs it seems and he's only just turned 18, that says a lot don't it lol... His Anky video was extremely FAIR and logical and yet they treat him like shit for it? Way to go Jao the 2nd cough I mean Dondi.
@@dilberthigh oh my god i just read the announcement and jfc, thats some big cringe lol.
It’s no secret the devs have always been sensitive of their game. They don’t like criticism, obviously. And if they took the time to watch the whole video and look at the comments, then they would actually know what you were talking about. You didn’t hate on anyone, send anyone after Bryan, nor did you say anything wrong for spouting your opinions. So in truth you didn’t have to apologize for anything, however I’m glad you didn’t apologize for making the video but for at least formally apologizing to Bryan (which you didn’t have to do...). Everyone else on the team was being hypersensitive and had no right to refuse you the content creator tag, especially since you haven’t done anything wrong. I’ve seen the devs talk shît to other games, they come upfront and say what they want about the game and talk down on the style or flow of the game, etc. but the fact that if you just say the Anky should stay and the roster and here’s why, doesn’t deserve the backlash you got from the devs. But it also doesn’t mean anyone going for Bryan’s head because everyone deserves an opinion and if they think they can shut people down and let them not voice it, just means that they don’t want to be wrong and/or are being selfish, self-centered and have their head so far up their aśs (excuse the bad language) that they can’t admit that their wrong or are just talking bs to people who don’t deserve it. Thanks Pesky for keeping ur head held high, your an inspiration to us all!❤️
it's the sad truth
Might aswell wright a book
Yeah it sucks that they tried to paint Pesky as a irrational hater, I still love the Isle. But for the love of God the devs need learn the difference between someone who is hating on them for no reason, and someone who cares about the game and is simply giving them constructive criticism.
Dud... took the word right out of my mouth, thanks for that
Its ok for the isle developer to criticise other games etc and use colourful language too, but they do not like it when their own work is criticised?
Just shows bad relations and how egotistical they are, how they deal with people is not on
correct and right, and now for the first time it's all out in the open, even if it already kinda was
I honestly hate how cocky they are, all the power has gone to Dondi's head, why can't they just be humble and more adult about things? Absolute children.
I remembered in the discord where Dondi said he's going to make DoD of his own, but even The Isle is sucks ball but he thinks he already up for another game
I don't generally get into these as it's none of my business, but I saw Dondi's comment on you and your video and it was both obnoxious and petty. You just constructed an argument against their own, voicing points that the community has brought up + some of your own and made it take form. You took the time to be thorough and honestly, your points are good, and still they take it as a personal attack for some reason? They say that the community has taken 'the meme too far', but these reactions from them really convey there's something else to all this and that anything as small as a hint of disagreement being taken as personal for a reason undisclosed. Anyways, my support to you, because you don't deserve to be a) left out b) being spoken of in that manner.
Isle devs especially Dondi don't handle criticism At All
He seems to be like the kind of person who always says that he is honest and doesn't care about feelings to cover up how hyper sensitive they actually are. If he were an edgy 14 year old would it be understandable but he he is not, he's a grown adult.
Dude they can make a good game
But
They're fucking cry babies
Geez
Someone shares an opinion and they go all
"He hurt my feelings!"
Pesky is the bigger man in this.
I couldn't have apologized to a bunch of babies
@@togglemutt9892 Same, my pride is far too large to apologize for something I shouldn't ever need to. People are too thin skinned these days and it's so fucking pathetic how many people will thrash and cry over such simple and unimportant shit
Dondi is a tool
Javiel Velez, It’s not that they don’t, its that they don’t know how.
Jesus watch pesky get banned for standing his ground
If that happens we boycott the isle
@liam gorman kinda looking that way
@liam gorman *been, this isn't actualy anything new, what is new is that it's all on the open now
liam gorman As much as I try to like them, the isle dev’s HAVE done this before.
@@luci.1140 same
Pesky is literally one of the most sensible content creators on the isle, moreso than dondi I'd say
Honestly, the Devs are everywhere with their game. They are for scientific accuracy, they are against it. They love jokes, they hate them. They are for criticism, they are against it. They are very hypocritical. Honestly, I’m afraid that they will become more like the DoD devs which, if that happens, will make me leave the game because I don’t want to see the Devs become hypocrites who get angry at anything that goes against their opinions.
Only thing that sucks is that most of us can't get refunds either... so we can't really stick it to em where it actually hurts
Andrew Meyer. I don’t want to get a refund. I love the work the devs are doing and the product they are making. I dislike the Devs actions but the product they are making is great.
Andrew Meyer you hate the devs so you hate the game? Makes total sense
@@derptard8093 Most people dont want to support people who act like this-hence why some people wish they could refund it. I like the game not the devs however if i could go back and not support it based on their behavior i would.
It's the only way they could have consequence.
@@derptard8093 Not once did I say I hate the game. But you know what makes Devs turn their heads? Money. When it comes down to an entire team of developers being this egotistical, words dont do shit, as we've seen they'll just label you a 'shitbird' and claim you wrote a hit piece on someone. But go on and keep licking their boots
You did absolutely nothing wrong, I’m so glad ur standing ur ground against the devs and ur so brave to make a public video criticizing a game with extremely valid arguments where it’s devs cant take the slightest bit of criticism, I support u 100%
You're not licking Dondi's boots 24/7 the way Anthomnia does. Sorry, no EVRIMA early for you buddy.
LITERALLY
yea anth does that alot..alot ALOT
Anth sucks up to the Devs but doesn’t know half of the stuff he is showing in his videos. I watch his videos thinking I’m going to learn something but I wind up being more confused because a dev is showing a new feature and you would think He would do his research and know what it is before he puts in a video to his subscribers. He starts guessing what it is and 9 times out of 10 he is wrong.
@@bbell7050 yeah, like the "OMG Tenonto is so small I thought it was bigger"... Like, bruh, you could just Google Tenontosaurus and see how big it is, is that really that hard?
@@karenboy1005 So the way you try to justify pesky being an idiot is to hate on someone who had nothing to do with it? Yeah, no wonder his fanbase went on hate on the discord.
What Paradym and Dondi want here is basically for Pesky to apologize for something he didn't do.
They want him to bow down to them. I'm glad Pesky stands on his ground.
>Can't optimize game properly
>Blames it on dinosaur species
>Gets politely called out on it
>Wets diaper live on stream
Peak dev.
Totally accurate
I genuinely think bigger content creators like Beaver and Anthomnia should speak out about this. This type of behaviour should not just be overlooked because they're Dondi and Para and they have plot armour or something.
They dont have plot armor, they have OSTEODERMS! So they are basically safe from everything.
If Anth spoke out on this he'd 100% side with the dev team.
@@MagicalFruitBasket Yeah, he'd pull some "we just don't understand what the devs have to say" bullshit like that.
If Anthomnia actually went against the devs to defend Pesky I'd instantly regain both my respect for him and my faith in humanity.
Too bad that'll probably never happen.
Haha you think Anthomnia has morals lol
Wow I mean u literally were talking about how a animal was viable and giving a reason as to why it could be you intended no harm but wait they can talk all the shit they want 24/7 but as soon as any one else address their opinion they put the boot down. It’s not your fault a joke got out of hand but that’s no reason for them to act that way it’s not only childish but out of left field. This whole ban people and idc attitude is getting a bit much
That's always been how dondi is. I'm happy he is making the game and cares about people who he's close with but dang, he will bring you down with little provocation.
@king emfj3201 My exact fucking thoughts. You even have people in the Discord asking for admins or mods to shut down any channel that so much as mentions this topic. Its pathetic
@@andrewmeyer3599 the discord is a shithole tbh
@@kacperr9924 i agree my mate got banned for joking about recode saying his isle was updating.
king emfj3201 oh shit, impact was taken XDDD
I guess the devs haven't changed that much...
They've been the same for years, sucks
Yea, stopped playing The isle cuz of the fact they act like stupid fookin kids.
Pesky, you *are* a content creator. The Devs cannot take critical viewpoints that make the other side of the story visible. They need to understand that. I want to personally apologize AS the devs to you because that is absolute unprofessional behavior they are portraying. You said your side of the story and spoke for the community and an opinion. They are angry and obviously are unreasonable and misunderstanding, and didn’t give you a realistic role. I’m so sorry, Pesky. You really don’t deserve this...
I agree with you but are you an Isle dev, while Pesky deserves an apology from them and it is a nice centament, you should not apologize on behalf of a community you arent a part of
@@irregular_artist8083 A community I'm not a part of? I don't understand that statement or what you mean by it, but as for that part of my statement in terms of apologizing as the Devs was just a mirror of what they should be doing. I don't speak for them obviously and I am not one, but it is just an impression of what their behalf should be.
this reaction should have never happened, but it's completely normal at this point, dondi has banned has gotten people to target people who disagreed with him before. He's called out an under aged girl in a stream who asked about rex balance and called her name out on stream and called her a slut. Not to mention the fact he's basically ruined deathly reputation by making up the code stealing/breaking bullshit.
Deathly bad, Dondi good - Deathly haters in a nutshell
@@karenboy1005 yup
@@fartmgee bascially it makes no sense as to how he could steal code if he was immediately fired and had to go home to Australia, not to mention dondi has never tryed to prove or take legal action with his claims, not to mention if you know the kind of person dondi is he's not honest, period. Deathly was fired due to disagreements with the games direction, which is ironic considering the current situation
@@vividsky1669 If Deathly would have literally sabotaged Dondi's and the rest of the devs' project, you would absolutely expect them to sue the shit out of Death;y, but they never did that, so that should give an indication that that was just Dondi being trigerred by Deathly being independent, or what Deathly did do wrong was nowhere near as bad as Dondi made it out to be. Knowing how much of a man-baby Dondi is, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. This is just my take on it, I could be completely wrong and something else could be going on.
@@karenboy1005 nah ur pretty much bang on, also in PoT he has his real name and face displayed on the website, also i've talked to the guy several times and he's a really nice guy
The devs are huge jerks, like don't take it so seriously, he likes the game, he GAVE you money! He is more than valid to be able to give criticism! Some of the devs have there heads to far up themselves. It is a simulation game about dinosaurs, dead creatures that they aren't professionals about. You don't own dinosaurs and how they would act. It was a suggestion to make a game better. I mean them no ill intent, but they are acting like children. I like Anky, most people do. So chill. Abuse of power over a video addressing bad logic. I'm so sorry Pesky. You payed for his food, and whatnot, but it's not your fault.
Cerulean Indoraptor I hope you realize dondi said “at the end of the day I am just a big child who likes dinosaurs”
Oh no
They're sending memes that I disagree with! Someone ban him!
Agree
@@benmcmillin3651 yeah, and that makes it okay for him to insult a kid that doesn't agree with him on a subject
I like you, and I like your logic.
There is this quote I read a while back it said something like love the product not the person/people. And I that applies here, you yourself did not do anything wrong by stating an opinion and backing it up with fact and evidence. I feel as if they should learn what is criticism v.s. what is cirque. Yes I understand that people will get defensive when talking about a subject but this was truly not something to get heated over.
You deserve that content creator name. You work quite hard on the things you do and you have made a pretty good name for yourself and I commend you for that. If you get along to reading this I hope you and everyone else has a wonderful day and, I mean no harm by what I say. Everyone has a right to their own opinions and also has a right to share them at will.
actually i think the quote is "Love your customers, not your product" and the Isle Devs clearly failed at that xD
Dondi needs to apollogize. You did not attack any specific person, you went after a specific dino.
Things Dondi doesn't do:
- Apologize
@@pdiddlyd oh and he doesnt listen to his community about the game
This genuinely makes me terrified of publicly giving criticism of this game. I'm not a content creator in the slightest but it's worrying to think the devs of one of my favorite games could hate me after I give my personal criticism. I love the game as much as anyone, but it has flaws just like everything else. Myself and I'm sure many others didn't take your video as an attack, nor do I think it can be proven by simple nitpicking. It clearly wasn't your intention to send people to attack Bryan, those did it on their own behalf even if it was caused from your video. I really hope things calm down and everyone takes the time to sit back and just think about it. We all have opinions and some people may not agree with them; how we respond shows a lot about us as a person.
To whomever read this, have a great rest of your day/night. Here's a virtual slice of cake to hopefully make your day a bit better. 🍰
It's so sad. We're afraid to give criticism because these whiny man-babies will go Stalin on our accounts and ban or harass us and some shit. For what?? Criticism? I have lost all understanding for Dondi and the other devs who find his attitude acceptable, and the ones who kneel down and kiss his toes and praise the developers. "tHanK yOU deVs yOu woRked sO hArd", ugh. They are hired as game developers of course they fucking work on games, that's their JOB, but their priority should also be treating others with respect. No matter who you are, especially if you have a platform, basic respect and politeness shouldn't be thrown out of the window.
Thank you nice person, but I can't take cake anymore
The problem with The Isle is that the devs are very childish and the community is very toxic for the most part. The game is good but everything about the players and the devs makes me feel like i can't enjoy anything about the isle. Just because they worked hard on something doesn't mean there still isn't room for improvement.
TLDR: The Isle developers have an abnormally large ego
I dont think id call the community itself toxic, I've rarely had unfavorable encounters, but I do agree sometimes the dev team can be very toxic, even though I still love them.
@@irregular_artist8083 honestly the only dev i mostly see as a toxic asshole is dondi. he always take shit about something in his stream and if someone disagrees with them on stream he will be "nope fuck you, I'm right your wrong, end of story"
Indeed. I do enjoy playing the aisle but on big servers like Isla Nycta People are so touchy-feely. Honestly get a back bone and grow up. I also hate the players that went after Brian because they’re just as irresponsible as the Devs
You are so right tho.
One of the intresting things about him ive noticed is that on a repeated basis he has constantly tried making the game at an ungodly level of difficulty because he seems to find it funny to watch players torture themselves, which may be one of the reasons the comunity is so very jumpy and quick to anger, because the game they love, and probably spend the most time playing, is literally designed to kill you. Idk, maybe we should explore the psyche of the game itself... And why the comunity may be the way it is, seems to be an intresting subject to explore, not that id do it myself too much work i have other stuff to worry about XD
Well, don't mention this in the discord guys, cause the mods are ready to ban you for just uttering Pesky's name. It's actually ridiculous. We aren't even allowed to have a civil discussion about it without being silenced.
Ppl with power suck, there u have it even about a game.
reminds me of day of dragons discord. people really love pressing that ban button
you werent allowed to talk about it?
@@dexwave2653 When this video was first posted, yes. Mods were telling people to change the subject or get banned.
Herro 雌犬 yep just experienced it, when asked they said the situation was resolved with a DM between pesky and para and too stop talking about it , when ppl continued talking about it someone ( I believe an admin but I could be wrong) treated to ping a mod if the topic didn’t change
"And I'm normally the gentle one on the team"
-Paradymshift
It's just sad to see such a childish attitude coming from an adult developer of a game with a huge follower number. Constructive Criticism is something that developers should be more flexible and enthusiastic around in order to make a more environmentally hospitable fanbase about their game. Dondi just treats any form of criticism like a threat and THAT kind of aggressive and childish attitude is one of the main reasons as to why the game has such a toxic fanbase. But don't worry, we got your back Pesky. You are not in the wrong here.
Yeah that's honestly the thing that baffles me. They're grown ass adults acting like middle schoolers. It's honestly so sad to see
9/10 times Dondi is speaking, he's drunk off his ass. Do you really expect any form of decency to come from a person that is very clearly an alcoholic
Since this is an apology video. You should have been On Camera, with a Grey hoodie, and a thumbnail of you crying.
You didnt do anything wrong. Im sorry that you didnt get CC. You dont need it. Your channel is still growing 😄
Espeon The Magician like an apology video like what Logan Paul did?
i think this gets more views than the evirma video he "would have" made
Why is pesky being attacked for his fans attacking him when Anthomnia fans literally swarmed DoD when he put out his rant about their dev team?
Because The Isle devs LOVE criticism... towards their competitors, that is.
But if you criticize their own game? CONSTRUCTIVE criticism at that? Well that's a big no-no; off to the CC blcklist for you.
Because Isle devs are cancer, immature and amateur in their profession. If it wasn't for die hard dino fan (Totally a thing) not having a good dino game, the Isle would die.
Day of Dragons was, is, and will always be a fucking scam. Just sayin
@@DanL21 actually they are making massive progress loom at their update videos. They made more progress in a year than recode did XD.
Glad you stand your ground Pesky, you did nothing wrong. I hope the devs will think a bit about this situation and learn from it. Much love from another small isle youtuber
Pesky makes good points about the anky and just doing good.
The devs, so you have chosen death?
Just dont be toxic
* Offtopic *
Comment posted 47 minutes ago, reply posted 48 minutes ago. YT is drunk.
@@karenboy1005 it often is lol
Dondi: Hmm yes I am very mature
edit: I am no longer allowed to speak in the Discord.
lmao
A worthy sacrifice for true justice
Here’s to the “Banned from The Isle Discord Because I Stood Up to the Devs” Gang!
Dondi has a history of being immature and toxic. I'm honestly surprised The Isle has managed to last as long as it did with the drama that's happened in the past; I still remember the drama about LeviaDraconia having the skins she made for the game removed.
I'm super late on that but what was that drama about?
That's really rough. Stay strong Pesky, hold your head high and know we all love and support you.
You are a content creator and no lack of a purple name tag can change that. Just for an opinion, you’ll get the update right alongside your subscribers and, where the world is today, it’s almost lucky that it’s all you get. We’re going in as a family, standing with you, proudly!
I feel like Dondi had no idea who you are and just went with what Para said about you, which was completely wrong. I completely agree with you here, your video was very obviously criticism by someone who cares about the game and not some troll just flamebaiting and I think Para, the PR guy of the team (I think?) should handle situations like this better. I'm really conflicted about this because I love the devs' work, but stuff like this really discourages me and makes it hard to support their game.
If anything the flamebaiter is ironically Paradym himself.
Wait, how is it your fault that people went and trolled Bryan after watching your video? What?
It's not his fault
And people didnt Go After big baby Bryan
They just spammed anky memes!
Cause they like anky.
Like
Oh no
They're sending memes that I disagree with! Someone ban him!
BECAUSE HE DIDNT CLARIFY TO NOT HATE ON THEM
@@radcoon1610 He really shouldn't have to? He put a disclaimer in the beginning of the video stating that it was not a hate video. Nobody should have to be told "don't hate on this person." If people want to hate, they will regardless whether they were given "permission" or not.
@@radcoon1610 he shouldn't have to. He's not responsible for other people's behaviour.
@@Tess1596 I fucking know that people would have hated on bryan still, I'm just saying if he put a disclaimer saying not to hate on him then at least some people wouldn't have. Because the trolls probably thought "If he never said we couldn't hate, then its fair game"
And I'm guessing Depleon didn't get CC either for being YT friends with you. I'd expect that type of childish behavior from The Isle devs, not gonna lie.
Why would they do that? Just because hes their friend doesn't mean they wouldnt give him cc lmfao.
Truthfully, Depleon told me that he reached out to Punchpacket but simply never received a response. It has nothing to do with his friendship with me.
@@radcoon1610 I said "I'm guessing". Does this word have any meaning to people anymore?
@@karenboy1005 Doesn't matter, if you said "I'm guessing" thats just a really stupid guess.
@@radcoon1610 still it's possible.
Wow paradimes lines just aged like warm milk
I watched them say this on stream and I was just shocked. How can grown men be that childish and immature towards your video? How was the actions of absolute trolls be your fault? I know people usually take it to the next level but still, it would be okay if the same thing happened to them and people went after you, because fairly, they DIDN'T put out a disclaimer to not go after you, which to be fair some people could want to harass you, it really sucks so much. Be proud that you are a better person than them. Your response is an actual response with fair points and not some immature man children crying over a genuinely fair video. Keep it up, you're doing great.
i swear if they remove your access to the isle ill be furious, those babies cant take constructive criticism and they're so rude.
you did nothing wrong, you deserve content creator.
also, what a coincedence! my birthday is today.
I never watched any of your video's and not planning to, but this thing they played on you is the biggest BS. I've seen countless people get silenced for giving constructive criticism so it's nothing new. Good for you standing your ground. Dondi and some of his team are acting so immature it's unbelievable. I stopped playing for a while for this very reason. I like the game but I despise it's creators for being such immature, unprofessional devs and persons.
I only can say Karma will hit Dondi badly someday and he deserves it.
exactly XD
@Kou 1 not that many people I've ever met knows much of the Beaver. I don't even know him well, I just know he does a jurassic park mobile game.
It seems to be hitting already, people are already leaving The Isle and going to play Path of Titans instead just because the lack of updates to The Isle.
@@tonionitoklan4872 and the lack of good devs
Pesky is the embodiment of the “why are you booing me I’m right” meme lmao
Well it is true he isn't wrong lol.
I’m not surprised that this occurred, the devs of The Isle are completely unprofessional. Never before have I seen game devs who cant take criticism in such a manner, it’s almost like they forget people pay for their game.
Day of Dragons
@@AuroraBorealis170 DoD devs weren't really game devs. They quite literally didn't have a game lmao.
You should not be held responsible for the actions of others even when you told them not to do what they did. They made a conscious choice to attack Bryan and you didn't incentivise them.
I really wish the 40 ppl to give this video a thumbs down, would give a reason for it in the comments. I haven't watched the anky video, but I was in Dondis stream when the conversation happened, and I was in chock. I've played with u once and from the videos I have seen, you have always been friendly and civil. Keep up the good work 💕
Bro I completely agree with you some times they have there heads up there ass and expect you to bow down to them
King why you steal my pfp >.>
Fisher nah bro my pfp had it first >_>
why are you 2 bobs?
There's always been jokes about, "haha no opinions here" in the isle community, but now that the game has gathered more players than ever I think the devs need to sit back and rethink their situation. I mean, just looking in the discord general chat, there are constantly people saying shit like, "woah, be careful, dondi might see that you have an opinion" or something along those lines. I mean, all the devs have to do is just look at the chat and realise theres an issue, but apparently thats too hard. Also, if you're the lead developer to a now large game that has an even larger community, you'd think that maybe you'd resort to something more professional than calling someone names on a stream live to thousands of people. I love this game but whenever an issue appears within the community its always shoved away with some piss poor response from the devs. I think that they are extremely skilled at doing what they love, and I know that controlling a community this large would be an extreme challenge, but just because youre in a high position of power doesnt mean that you're completely untouchable by criticism. I love the game and everything it stands for, I also have nothing against any of the devs, but there comes a point when enough is enough.
The problem is that they aren't even a little mature. Just look at the announcement yesterday that said the game would release in two days. It was nearly impossible to read because of the constant and childish side comment.
If I had seen how poorly the devs represent themselves and their company then I wouldn't have purchased the game.
Well as with the rest of your community and as a friend I support you bro I never felt your anky video was done to be a hit piece and I know it was just constructive criticism. Either way you are doing the right thing and I hope they understand because it is a real shame they took it the way they did. As always though I got your back as do the rest of your community.
I’m so sorry man I think you a great content creator ❤️
Deacan Beasley same
Plus you actually gave cool ideas that they could've used. I don't get why they're so pissed about you being a person that enjoys a game and voices your opinion and try to make a positive change to improve the game. I don't get why the devs are even attacking you when you just stated your opinion while people who watched the video decided to attack the dev.
Mature people would go "thanks Pesky, the armor idea is a good one, and we'll implement it in the future." Immature people to " what a shitbird. "
I've been playing the isle for yeaaaaars. The dev team have always been very sensitive because they are led by a very sensitive man who honestly has never been able to take critisicism or even be tolerable to listen to imo. I love the game but the dev team has always been its weakest point. I dont think you did anything wrong. You gave some critiques and it got out of hand with some people which is unfortunate but if the dev team just wants to sit in a echo chamber they should probably just stick to anthomnia and their own discord server I guess.
Question, i completely agree with you by the way, whats everyone's issue with anthomnia, I love watching him and sometimes his content bores me but I've seen a lot of controversy about him
@@irregular_artist8083 From what i've seen when anthomnia and dondi interact, dondi will insult the crap out of anthomnia. Anthomnia will typically just nod and laugh. Sometimes he'll joke back though.
There's also this weird feeling in there conversations. Don't know how to describe it, maybe pandering?
Irregular_Artist I mean it depends on what situation we’re talking about there’s the DoD stuff for example.
you got a link to the video?
@@brandonshmandon1799 oh so there are different situations? Ill look into it, thanks
People are allowed to have opinions, And I feel sorry for you and bryan No one deserves to be mobbed. And thats Why I left the isle community a while back.
It’s kinda crazy how a dev saying “anky is a bad animal” in discord escalated into this
The Isle is the most fragile community with some fragile dev personalities... sigh
I dont think you’ve met dod fans or furrys
@@Abyzzol I'm a furry and I'm not fragile, lmao. I just think anthro animals are cool to draw.
Abyzzol ok off topic here. I get the DoD fan base, seen it myself, but furries? I’m not into it personally but how is dressing up or drawings fuzzy animal sensitive? I am so confused.
TriggerHappy no no no, u know exactly which furries im talking about, the cringey ones
Colossal Fossils “im not fragile”, um yeah seems like u atleast got offended by what i said
I just got banned because I mentioned Nigersaurus. The devs didn't know this pretty famous dinosaur was real, and they, without warning, banned me.
Path of Titans might be the way to go.
Yeah, and its also on console so I don't have to pay for a pc.
@@jacksond.v9051 Console is uncertain atm. It's already available on mobile though.
Karen Boy they are working on getting it to support console 😃 thats what i like about pot
Imagine being a developer of a dino game and not knowing nigersaurus. I swear they have the knowledge of most jurrasic park fans
It's treason, then
But you didn't insult Bryan. You gave a disclaimer in the vid along with your criticism and reason why anky isn't a bad animal. The fact that they aren't allowed to br a content creator for the isle is absolutely stupid.
Edit: I'm part of their discord and I'm disgusted b the devs. They said about the clips "interpret how you watched it." Excuse me you guys called him out saying HE started the flame war. It wasn't his fault people don't listen. I'm sorry Pesky you didn't get recode content creator but i will forever watch your channel. ^^
I got banned from the discord for posting an anky meme lost month. it wasnt offensive at all and Punchpacket has been ignoring my appeal. but what they have done to Pesky is the last straw for me. i have no respect for the devs.
Oh great this is when I was raging at me being bad at Primal Carnage
it wasnt pesky fault for Bryan problems with community
Bryan went after beloved by community dino with out any solid arguments and he got what he sow after he sugested that anky can not be playable dino
Was the pesky vid reason for that NO but it was voice of part of the community with many agree
it s sad to see old way of *if the argument is against us, it is even worse for the argument*
I'm guessing Beerwar also didn't get CC for making an Anky meme video. Lmao.
From my long experience in The Isle community Dondi has been characteristically horrible in handling criticism even going as far as to read negative steam reviews on his Twitch stream, which I find incredibly disgusting. Anyone who doesn't believe what he says without question gets verbally belittled and harassed by not only him, but his army of bootlickers. I've seen friends of mine (though I don't talk to them now) treated like shit for attempting to push for criticism in how the game works. (Predatoria, Hilla007)
Granted these situations are unique in their own substantiation and scale, but they were unique situations met with vile toxicity and condescension none the less. When I felt the game was at it's worst, I wrote a long pointed negative review. Naturally, out of anxiety and fear of it being READ ALOUD ON TWITCH and getting HARASSED, I brought it down. I appreciate The Isle as a dinosaur game once close to my heart, but I've been incredibly let down by the community as well as lead development. A player should not fear being harassed or flamed for criticizing something they payed money for.
To wrap up my rambling, I thought their general response had improved, but upon watching this video as well as the Ankylosaurus one, I'm saddened to see that they have fallen into old habits and I will continue to not engage with this game and it's vile, childish community/devs.
EXCUSE ME??? Your video was completely valid and made some great points. If they can’t keep open minds and see other points of view then maybe I don’t want to support the Isle
Hey Pesky, I wanted to apologize for all this, you truly didn't deserve all this backlash for making a video that was ultimately just you disagreeing with Bryan. I admittedly didn't understand the whole situation when I first heard about it and truly thought the video you made was a "hit piece" on Bryan, I originally thought you were shitting on Bryan because you disagreed about the Anky. However, after seeing what people had to say I watched your original video about this whole Anky situation and realized that you really weren't being rude or inflammatory towards Bryan or anyone really. So I wanted to come here and apologize to you directly (or as directly as I can with a CZcams comment) about misunderstanding and just assuming the situation was as one-dimensional as the devs laid it out to be on stream. Truly I should have looked at both sides before coming to a conclusion about the whole thing and I hope this whole thing blows over for you man. Again, truly sorry for both my mistakes, and for the shit you've taken unwarranted from the developers.
It’s all good my friend. Misinformation spreads super quickly in this day and age, and it’s easy to get caught up in drama. Try not to worry about it too much, as writing this comment was more than enough of a display of support for me
I think you handled that well. You acted calm and addressed the topic in a polite manner. It's sad to see this all happen to you because you seem like a very nice guy. Also to anybody else who is reading this, don't attack the developers, don't rage in the comments, just don't be jerks. If the devs are being jerks you don't stoop to their level because it makes you seem like a you're also a bad person. Pesky said it himself he doesn't want anyone harassing the devs and he doesn't want anybody to be rude in the comments.
So it's okay for Dondi to throw shade at Beasts Of Bermuda because of a mechanic he doesn't like, but when you make a *constructive* critique about The Isle with valid points the devs *DEMAND* an apology. Yeah that's gonna be a yikes from me.
no reason to let this get to you, just carry on with your amazing life and good vids! keep it up b
The Dev's responses make Saurian look awfully attractive right about now...
Wanted Wario Saurian*
A real shame it's in development hell though. But yes, it does look rather promising.
They hate anky.
To the point they are willing to cause controversy.
Honestly i think people might not play The Isle if this gets even bigger.
Those 9 dislikes are the devs
The developers of The Isle are the least professional devs I have ever known. They are so toxic and quite frankly it irritates me how this community is unable to punish them for it. Also anyone who is close to the dev team is so scared to say anything negative incase they get punished for it or just shouted out of the community. Look at Anthomnia, he will occasionally say something bad but instantly say 'oh its just my opinion and its still work in progress'. Its sad.
The Dev team are absolute man-babies. They ban people on discord for asking legitimate questions, there isn't any discernable FAQ in place that I could find on the website or discord. They said they'd tone down the sass in announcements and yet they continue to talk down to their whole fanbase as if they were some emotionally unavailable step-mother ridiculing their children. Not to mention a content creator SHOULD be able to make constructive content on a game that has been kinda dead for the last year update wise, they should be thrilled he's creating free PR for the game. It riles me up thinking a bunch of 30-year-old 'adults' is actually bullying a teenager, they need to take a step back and re-evaluate how they talk to people. To be honest, if I knew how terrible these devs were before I bought the game last year I'd probably just steer clear of it altogether.
That's one of the things that really bother me about this and not enough people are pointing it out in the comments. At the end of the day, these are 2 grown ass adults and Pesky is basically just a kid, and they're openly insulting him and ridiculing him for making a video that bothered them. This is quite literally mind buggling.
I'm sorry you had to go through this, its not your fault, its the fault of the people who attacked Bryan and used the video as flame bait. I think the devs felt that Bryan was attacked but the fact that they can't respond to criticism in a civil manner even when its constructive makes giving out any criticism really hard and can hurt the game. the people who should be punished are the people who used the video as flame bait and attacked Bryan, not you.
Pesky: "I don't entirely agree with Bryan about the Anky"
Dondi: 0:45
oh well lets see what up
edit: what happend wasnt your fault since you did make a disclaimer its the peoples fault and what the devs did was really unprofessional which is just i think unacceptable
I think the problem here isn't Pesky or Bryan it's the people who saw the video or parts of it and as they changed what information they got from the video when they passed it on too others and then those people where hating on Bryan because they where missinformed. Honestly people need to actually pay atention to disclaimers and when someone is making sugestions for how things could change for the better and not go attack the devs saying you need to change this but without giving all the the sugestions that you gave. So in other words those people are pricks and they need to change how they act or all of this drama that isn't needed can bazz off. I really want The Isle to be a good game, I really do since the moment it came out but its drama and peole like this that are holding it back.
Honestly the devs absolutely disgust me, this is why I hate the devs even if they fix this with you. I learned that from this YOU CANNOT DISAGREE with the devs or you get this treatment.