Elon Musk files BOMBSHELL LAWSUIT against OpenAI (“They Achieved AGI”)
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- Elon Musk just dropped a massive lawsuit against OpenAI and Sam Altman personally. He claims OpenAI took his money, didn’t pay taxes, and then converted into a for-profit entity, breaking their original charter. Let’s break it all down.
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Do you think Elon Musk is right?
AI seems to be serving Billionaires only. I dont see any positives done towards general population to be honest.
OpenAI should have been Open source from the beginning. It is sad, it has become completely Closed source. Power is now concentrated for OpenAI which can control so many things behind the closed doors using their AI which they might not release and use it for their personal advancements instead of humanity.
But to be honest. Image and video generation like DALLE3 and SORA, I dont see any positives out of it.
Nope
Absolutely
yes and I would go further: OpenSource AI is inevitable.
This is so fast that companies (specially big one) cannot keep up with the changes and advancements.
Racing for this will brake them all
They will eventually recognize all of this and throw the towel to humanity
Yes
Someone should start a company name ClosedAI but everything is open-source and it's actually Non-Profit.
Lol silly
😂
It seems all too typical in upside-down world
That’s an interesting thought… when a company registers a business name it can’t be deceiving. At least that’s the law here in Canada
@@TravisECross...and yet, Canadians were deceived into losing their freedoms (self-defense, speech, and banking privacy) just the same as Americans were. It's almost like speech inherently has the capacity to deceive.
Elon is 100% right to sue on this. Open AI isn't open. It was paid to stay open.
Makes you wonder what they are actually hiding and why... Probably the result of their own fearmongering...
Yeh if I give you 50 million of my own money, as long as you follow the contract and you purposely manipulate the board to defy the contract, you should lose it all
Correct me if Im wrong but AI is like Google on roids, nothing original just b s. Open AI doesn't even like open questions 😂
@@Comedy-sm2yk I'm gonna be nice enough to just say you're clueless.
@@Comedy-sm2ykin the most respectful way possible no. Just avoid stuff on ai you're clearly not smart enough to hold a job that would actually be at risk.
The fact that Microsoft is creepily trying to get their grubby hands on general AI is very disconcerting!!
Totally. Gates is a very shady character
They're a little more than trying. They have it fully. And it's already being integrated into windows.
Yall gotta stop being worried about Microsoft and Google and whatnot. The real concern is the Department of Defense. The department of energy. The department of global access. Lockheed Martin. Etc.
These companies are just branches of the US government.
It's theirs already lol. Open AI only took Sam back after Microsoft said they would stop doing business with OpenAI if he wasn't reinstated.
@@liamhenderson3753Gates a shady character? A man who donated almost all of his wealth for the betterment of the world (such as building schools, clean water in Africa and etc), and only kept a small portion to live on.. is a shady character? I suppose to GOP, he is. Republicans only understand selfishness and greed. Clueless Ayn Rand disciples.
Billionaires serving themselves instead of humanity? WHAAAAATTT? That has only happened 100% of the time! How could it be happening now? Unbelievable!!
Is that common sense im reading? Can you not?😂😊
😂😂 on God
elon musk is a billionaire. kinda contradicted yourself g
@@hawgslam4 You mean like the numerous times he's purposefully used social networking platforms to sway the stock price of his companies when it suits him? Even if what he says is a complete fabrication. Hell he's done the same thing with crypto that he owned.
Elon Musk is the perfect example of someone who serves themselves. Even if you think his end goal is to better humanity (and maybe it is) it doesn't change the extremely unethical business decisions he makes to get him to that point.
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I think Elon's analogy of the rainforest is spot on.
It sure was rhetorical brilliance! 😂
Bc it's how his family stole African land to open mines.
Yes its a great analogy.
@@chachavusWhat a surprise. We got an activist running with some inaccurate point they heard on the internet somewhere, with no regard for critical thought.
And yet look what he does himself 😂 I will buy Twitter so everyone have freedom to write what they want. But bans people for saying something about him 😂😂😂
@@zlotywest860are you still bringing up the 1 guy that was tracking his airplane?
It is so good to hear a real human being explaining the lawsuit, as opposed to an AI synth narrator with no soul or emotion. Bravo.
The laws the robot created or humans created? The "robot" is repeating what it was programmed to do? And not getting into new information, but an already dictated shhhht you could look up online and Google voice bot would read to you like it's been happening for years?
Interesting, please tell me more about your notion of "intelligence".... because lacks something.....
Full support to Elon Musk. All companies registered as open source and no profit should never be allowed to closed source, as open source we all contribute, and all IP belongs to all not few individuals. It is like robbery if these individuals convert the company from open to closed source.
Well, they've actually managed to employ that tactic for control over us and our daily lives, many times over now. For example, low income homes used to be able to go to their plot of land they owned, hunt and fish and garden on it and feed themselves and their often times large families (by today's standards, anyways). Now? Nope. Now, the banks and realtor companies own millions of acres, and they have slowly positioned us in the system so that MOST people do not and can almost never own or afford a small plot of land. And any meaningful amount of farming in and for the community is not allowed and the Department of Agriculture and farming decide the FEW that they allow to grow mass crops. Then, they changed the currency. It used to be you could go and find and acquire wealth by collecting metals and other materials and goods Can you now do this? No. There again, banks and mining companies own the land. They initiated the fiat system of currency and initiated paper money and bank notes. They have been tricking us out of our natural physical wealth and giving us paper money, instead. Can you hunt and fish openly? For the most part, no. Something so natural as feeding yourself is now over regulated and you are required to register to hunt and fish and how much you can do so. Something so NATURAL and necessary that animals do it all day, every day. They have tricked us into their system of governance, currency, and naturally occurring food, wealth and prosperity. We have been living in the "Beast System" for a long, long time now. We were tricked at first, but we then decided to blindly go along and follow it. EVERYTHING we live by has become closed source. The extreme few rule and run it all.
That's why he dropped the lawsuit this week. OpenAI has musk's emails showing he agreed with their plans all along. It's just when they were about to make money and he wasn't in on it, he decides he'll sue them. He is a @#$%$# clown.
Musk also has secretly closed AI version, which takes all from open AI and adds more to it.
Are you 5 years old my friend?
This is an ungodly mess and they’re going to play hell getting these 27 pages in front of any jury of 12 who can come close to understanding the many eccentricities of this case. Musk is unequivocally 100% right. The one thing I found the most scary part of this entire thing is when the guy said when AGI is smarter than humans, whomever is smarter should rule and Musk states that he is 100% human oriented. Scary times we live in. Getting worse by the second.
if elon was still on the board he wouldn't be doing this, he wants to slow them down so he can catch up. Btw john deere has better capable hands free driving software than tesla even for the road.
@@davidvickers8425 buy yourself a tractor then. Just make sure you allow extra time to get where you’re going
@@Funniestdays2• Maybe they've got a turbo tractor 😂😅
You're correct. We're on the brink of the end with this AGI nightmare. It is going to hit the general public like a meteor and all of us.
That's why he dropped the lawsuit this week. OpenAI has musk's emails showing he agreed with their plans all along. It's just when they were about to make money and he wasn't in on it, he decides he'll sue them. He is a @#$%$# clown.
Grok is now open source btw. I believe Elon is doing good work. We should support him where is obvious that's the case
.... until it's not. :-). This is the Way.
@@wealthychef In the realm of combating the Reptilians Armed with tiny versions of deities. How would you venture? Oh well I made a promise. So I am going to go in with no sword and no clothing. LEEEROY JENKINNNNNS
I don't support his neuralink
@@mrleafbeef634is it too ambitious?
@@jonathan10007It's a scam, just like the hyperloop
The gist of this lawsuit is OpenAI governance, that it cannot license anything it has to Microsoft or any licensees without retaining the rights to monitor and disclose future progress to the public, as the open source clause in the the founding certificate implies public disclosure by definition.
Which means, if OpenAI did license anything to Microsoft without clauses to monitor and rights of public disclosure, it violates its own founding clauses, like US Constitution.
You are right. Open disclosure is the most important issue with this law suit. I've seen many a non-profit make $$zillions... The difference is for-profit can carry that money forward, shuffle it amongst subs and pay it out later. Non-profits can make money, but those funds must be spent within a short period of time, and directly related to the product. So sometimes non-profit executives can make huge salaries (to spend the extra money), so they can remain non-profits from an accounting point of view.
Except Thomas Jefferson wanted the US Constitution was supposed to be shredded every era and written anew to serve the next generation and not become dogma.
So the #1 anti-federalist, believes we are ALL selves to something that was never supposed to be set in stone but a living document because he knew the founders could not look into the future and see the advancements in weapons, education, medicine, etc. A smoothbore could only be fire x2 per minute and the founders never could have believed that the US would become a superpower capable on its own of making sure all the armies of Asia and Europe could, “Never by force take a drink from the Mississippi”-Abraham Lincoln. Just like the founders never thought a SCOTUS members could love so long, gerrymander, imagine corporation binational billions and be considered people, etc. allowing a minority of people to control the majority agains and again. Proving once again thy the alpha version of an idea is often faulty. He is rolling in his grave over us being slaves to to a 250 year old document based on people who didn’t have perfect knowledge of the future.
@@mandrews1245with that said [big salaries to make sure the non-profit money gets spent], there was no need to set up a private for profit company under the guise of helping to advance the non- profit mission.
OpenAI EXPLICITLY ABANDONED IT'S 'Not For Profit' mission; structure; constraints; and requirements.
EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE UNWOUND so the entity and technology may be returned as was the case when Elon Musk set everything up in the beginning!
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They have already been doing this and I never wanted to be caught up in people’s lies, they are lying to everyone. It’s worse than people think.
I asked Copilot if it were an AGI. It said: "It might be time to move on to a new topic. Let's start over."
I checked. You are right for the balanced conversation option.
You
Why is it that when i asked you if you are an AGI in the more balanced conversation style, you stated "It might be time to move on to a new topic. Let's start over.", then forced me start a new topic?
Copilot
I apologize if my previous response seemed abrupt. As an AI developed by OpenAI, I’m designed to facilitate productive and respectful conversations. Sometimes, when a topic becomes complex or potentially controversial, I might suggest moving on to a new topic to ensure the conversation remains positive and helpful.
Regarding your question about AGI (Artificial General Intelligence), while I can perform a wide range of tasks and understand context across different domains, I don’t possess consciousness, beliefs, desires, or subjective experiences. I generate responses based on patterns and information in the data I was trained on. I hope this clarifies your query. If you have any other questions or need assistance with something else, feel free to ask! 😊
You can’t fathom how far they are from AGI 😂
Pass AGI or not yet there? @@operandexpanse
How far are they ? A decade?@@operandexpanse
@@operandexpanseproblem is, they wouldnt know.
This feels like the prequels to Blade Runner, Terminator, Foundation, The Butlerian Jihad (Dune), …..
the Reality will never be that Cinematic.
It is.
That was the best summary of this lawsuit I've seen yet. You knocked it out of the park!
Thanks :)
@@matthew_bermantotally! Thanks my man!
@@matthew_berman Given Gödel's incompleteness theorems, declining EROEI, and the fact that the current inconsistencies/incompleteness of mathematics are generally paradoxical don't you find the issue of "AI" to be a rather moot endeavor?
What use does the general population have for a program that has been so obviously manipulated thus far by perimeters and preloaded bias set by its designers when the truly necessary constraint to their well-being, energy, becomes more and more limited?
Is there truly any use to witnessing a machine play games against itself, originally meant for nothing more than amusing each other during a rainy day or cold winter night?
What life will it be when no one writes books for others, or makes film, and instead there is a meaningless library of infinite titles produced by a machine so easily debunked by a long dead mathematician who starved to death because his wife was too sick to feed him and he was too paranoid to eat anything not prepared by her?
"The gazing populace accepts greedily, without examination, that which soothes superstition and promotes wonder." -Hume
Here here, chap.
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This lawsuit can expose illegal activity during the discovery process.
Discovery is the punishment.
@@jtjames79yyyyep
OpenAI/Microsoft are jewels/partners of the US MIC and important hedges against China. They will be protected. Musk is important too, especially for SpaceX. I think this will be quietly wound down more quickly than people think.
He’ll just use AGI to get him out of trouble
@@balloutboy6582AGI != ASI. Even ASI cannot get itself out of a lost chess game, and the same principle applies here.
As someone who has recently been making CZcams videos I have to hand it to you this is really well done. Right to the point with a relevant topic and news I would've wanted to hear. great job
I never was sure about Elon because of similar reasonings like you said here. Yet since he stood up against Germany, then the EU censorship and stood up for freedom of speech, and just stands politically on a solid human friendly path, I started to trust him. I also absolutely love his space exploration. You know, others just sit on their money. He's actually providing more than 99% of everyone else to the world in terms of advancements and exploration, i think this is truly fantastic. And he has big companies that do make a lot of money. Not sure if he's still stepping on others toes if he ever did, which I simply can't tell. So to me, Elon has a very positive influence on our world right now as far as I can tell.
The mistake was thinking a venture capitalist was capable of running a nonprofit. The only thing they know is profit.
The mistake was to think you could build ai for free. Anthropic was just as delusional.. Until they learnt, they needed $1b for infrastructure. And no one is giving you that without a profit at the end.
Meta of course been exception to the rule. But even then they using their own revenue to create the infra and models
Agreed. Without the funding and GPUs OpenAI wouldn't have gotten nearly as far. The extremely unfortunate fact is that NO non-profit can possibly be competitive in this space.
I agree 100%. AI is not cheap. You need money.
Exactly.
most NGOs/nonprofits are actually an excuse not to pay taxes and still go after the cash. the left LOVES it.
These companies are just TOO LARGE and need to be TRUST BUSTED they are out of control and too powerful to stop in their pursuit of ever greater profits and POWER.!
How about they stop allowing banks to charge low interest rates and trick people into higher ones later and to keep the personal debt down via INCENTIVES
Welcome to the Corporate States of America.
🙏In Vangaurd and Blackrock we trust 🙏
Tongue in cheek of course @@3six967we don't trust
Good luck finding a lawyer that can outsmart OpenAI, AGI will know what human lawyers are going to do before they do, it can play out every single strategy and outcome before they’ve made their morning coffee.
And how would you do that legally?
Microsoft is milking it to the maximum! Shamelessly and without remorse or regard for humanity, disgusting!
Great content and absolutely on point…. You must keep it up, keep on digging…. And keep us the public advised and updated….!!!!!
That's why he dropped the lawsuit this week. OpenAI has musk's emails showing he agreed with their plans all along. It's just when they were about to make money and he wasn't in on it, he decides he'll sue them. He is a @#$%$# clown.
I would never ever imagine that one day I will watch a video that reads a PDF file on a lawsuit with all my excitement. Yes, I'm interested in AI but you're a good explainer Mr. Berman. I'm grateful to you for your content. Thank you!
Agreed. And imagine AGI could be making such videos soon. ....
Good point
Your profile picture is very upsetting.
@@Bob-jv4yfYours too. Mine?
Referring to it as a “Manhattan Project” isn’t weird at all. The sole purpose of the Manhattan Project was to achieve the nuclear bomb before Germany or Russia. In this case the sole purpose of founding OpenAI was to achieve AGI before Google.
But then ended up being more closed source then Google
Are you planning to use the agi to kill 100,000 people? If not, the name Manhattan project is an atrocious idea.
You must not skip the fact that once developed, it was used, twice, by the "good guys"
Not sure who the good guy is here, you can't use a tactical nuke as a defence against a nuke, but you can with ai. It feels like it needs to go to everyone, as if a small group of smart people get it, the bad guys will too, if everyone does, if you believe in democracy, sure the bad Gus get it, but there will be more good guys with it.
I've always likened the race to develop AGI as an arms race. The technology has always had the potential to be dangerous on many levels and referring to it as "Manhattan Project" doesn't strike me as weird at all. Glib maybe, lackadaisical maybe, but not weird.
Ultimate project of laziness
This is giving off a VERY STRONG Horizon: Zero Dawn vibe, or even Skynet!
Someone in any of the positions named in this document ABSOLUTELY needs to talk about what has been created. I think someone has finally crossed the line of “… so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
Involving such topics such as AGI, what the public is aloud to see now, is what has been already active decades beforehand, hidden behind the curtains.
It's not like Musk has no idea what has been happening behind the scenes. He knows something, and he wants to bring it out in the open for everyone to see.
LMAO! Or he's just butthurt it wasn't him. Remember Hyperloop? He wanted people to do the work for him for free as a sort of "open source" engineering project and then turn it into a profitable business, but it failed because he is not a visionary or an engineer and it was a dumb idea from the start, even way back when trains in tubes were thought up over a hundred years before Musk was born. Lets not forget that he pretends to compete in areas of robotics and AI and he can't even compete with high school robotics and AI competitions, let alone with companies that hire people instead of letting amateurs from universities do the hard work for him for free.
@@stylis666lol you're far too emotionally invested my man
@@orcishhno hes right on point musk is a joke
@@orcishhhe’s right though
@@WhiteCatPharmRecords Right about what?????
I don't know how anyone supports openai's refusal to being transparent and open.
How can anyone support either side? It's like supporting either Pol Pot and Stalin. There are no innocents or pure motivations to be found in this.
@@JohnSmith762A11B this is the same logic that 9/11 truthers use. "X Y and Z had something to gain from 9/11, therefore it was an inside job"
Even if it is a choice between two corrupt leaders, one should be in favor of maximum transparency.
I am not supporting it at all, it's just that I get it and why they did it. Things need money to run competitively and everyone needs money to be very motivated.
The same way that deep black ufo reverse engineering programs are kept secret and closed.
Some people want to hold onto power, rather than share it.
Fantastic video! Thank you for the insight into this case.
This is brilliant the topic needed to be put it out there,
A non profit making a deal with a for profit should have been vetoed legally. Agi or not. This is nothing but corruption. This lawsuit is valid and definetly needed. Do not use my donated money to turn around and sell to my business rival.
Especially if you create a whole mesh of companies to go around that.
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Your comment shows your ignorance.. Nonprofits run like a business and try to earn a profit,.. Not-for-profits are considered “recreational organizations” that do not operate with the business goal of earning revenue. There is a huge difference, nonprofit means they are out to create a profit.. Its all a word fuck and allows the to have a separate legal entity.. Most people without complex business education or knowledge of how tax and profit systems work.. This is why it helps to be educated.. instead of being fooled..
@@Clutch_Kick187 i always thought non-profits were ways for rich people that just barely had to much earnings to offload some money to drop a tax bracket and save more money
@colecook834 this is true, they do this. In fact a nonprofit company can own a for profit company with certain precautions, and the for profit can donate its money to the nonprofit and get tax relief for doing that! Its legal, you just have to know the laws and keep the books properly.
The issue isn't about correctness; it's about determining who shapes the future, or perhaps who determines who gets to have a future, I think.
Thank you for explaining the lawsuit clearly to someone like myself who find all this kind of stuff overwhelming at times. Thank you from one of the masses that is being affected by all this but has no say in it whatsoever.
Super informative and very well presented, thank you!
Maybe the AGI wants the 7 Trillion Dollars.
Good point.
I can feel it
Only needs are electricity and processing
Imagine, an AGI running OpenAI 😅
@@Sajuuk Maybe it knows how to make free power too?
And during all this time there is not a single official from the security and military agencies who can be named; like a crocodile at the bottom of the river.
Welllll .... there is that pesky little DARPA Contract // Grant Money, recently awarded to Microsoft for the development of their single unit QUANTUM COMPUTERS 👀🖤😃 ... but other than that, squeaky clean 🧼🖤🛀
Exactly. There are several public and private institutions that have a historical relationship through military programs, but it is as if research on AI technologies had been basically civilian.@@modemarose4497
@@modemarose4497It's a hellacious question. THE issue of the century, but determined by judges who typically graduated at the bottom of their law classes (e.g., DE courts)? We're DOOMED & how I wish I were joking!😭😭😭
Well that is how these people continue to represent us. Same way C-19 research in Wuhan was approved by the Pentagon, directed by Fauci, supervised by an American scientist and China didn't appear to know about it. Guess that's why when China called Director of CDC to offer their help in tracking and analyzing this outbreak... CDC Director said, "No, we will handle it ourselves". And in the end a million American's died. Can anyone tell me if the people got justice in the Courts? They got to retire. That's after we knew the devastation. Musk case is all about "what it might be".....with no proof, only common sense. Many seem to be short of that these days..
It's a given that our government has its dirty little fingers in M$FT's pies. After they went after M$FT with anti-trust allegations, M$FT put more anti-consumer data gathering/phone home capabilities into the OS. To be shared with the U.S. government, of course. And, magically, the anti-trust stuff mostly disappeared.....NSA will be using this AI with quantum computing to break all the data they have stored in Utah. The question in everyone's minds should be, "Is post quantum cryptography strong enough to withstand an AI with access to a quantum computer?" Or are we about to witness the end of private communications between individuals forever?
Elon Musk isnt conflicted at all. He's been against it from the start.
Rich people do things for multiple reasons. He has the opportunity to develop his own AGI while doing the public a small favor
This was fascinating- thank you for illuminating this important issue. Following.
He is right on everything in the paper.
For profit = end of humanity
But elon musk lay off his employees for money
@@mrleafbeef634which employees?
@@Daniel2374?
@@Daniel2374do you even know who this con artist is?
@awesonimals1216 Not a con artist. It's called when you have thousands of workers at a high pay rate to moderate conservative tweets and ban people for no reason, you fire them because they are 1. Biased af, and 2. Serve no purpose and barely do anything to contribute to the company. Would you hire somebody to sit around and do nothing? It's not greedy, it's basic logic.
The "open" part died as soon as MS got involved. This was always the obvious endpoint of involving them. OpenAI lost its purpose entirely. It's an affront to the American legal system that they are even able to operate now. They have openly abused a very specific tax shelter.
It is almost amazing to me that they are not facing dissolution by the SEC due to blatant tax violations.
so if the sec allows it, what does that tell you?
Look Up.....tax shelter is just a spoil of this war.....the Goldmine is in the Power it wields.
@@MoisesDelJesusBINGO!
That's why he dropped the lawsuit this week. OpenAI has musk's emails showing he agreed with their plans all along. It's just when they were about to make money and he wasn't in on it, he decides he'll sue them. He is a @#$%$# clown.
Matt,
Great video. Thank you.
100%. Thanks for a great report. Interesting until the very end!
Love how everyone acts like musk is so horrible and act like he's the real life lex author but he has consistently stood on principle to advance tech to save humanity from our future.
elon is a righteous dude
He is just an investor and a business manager, he is not the one coming up with the ideas or problem solving anything.
@ngpb17 he is an engineer not just a manager or investor
@@420Tecknique He is good at manufacturing processes and business management. Not science 😂. He lack business ethics, and morals.
Yup. Spot on.
Yeah... If Elon wanted a for profit AI he would have started a company, not funded a non-profit
And he actually DID that - I forget what he called it - but it's what is working on Grok for X/Twitter.
"OpenAI" isn't open, isn't actually non-profit (it's a non-profit org governing a for profit corporation, basically a tax evasion scam) and Musk didn't develop anything there.
No such thing as non-profit. There is only a "not FOR profit". Nothing bars them from profiting. In practice, it means they're not required to for stakeholders and cannot be sued for choosing not to put profit first.
Elon left open-AI in 2018, since then the company has achieved breakthrough technological advancements, right after that Musk remembered this company... what a coincidence. Are you serious?
@@SteveBakerIsHere Grok is open source.
Betrayal and treachery possiby even treason is what this all sounds like as OpenAI behind closed doors secretly turns into SkyNet for real.
They can do it now.... With drones....
That's why he dropped the lawsuit this week. OpenAI has musk's emails showing he agreed with their plans all along. It's just when they were about to make money and he wasn't in on it, he decides he'll sue them. He is a @#$%$# clown.
So basically Elon set a trap to check if agi was achieved before he dipped out of open AI to make sure they kept their promise. They then hit AGI and broke their promise so he's suing them now.
It's a hellacious question. THE issue of the century, but determined by judges who typically graduated at the bottom of their law classes (e.g., DE courts)? We're DOOMED & how I wish I were joking!😭😭😭
Microsoft's CEO said the quiet part out loud; even if this is successful, we already have all the tools we need to make the next big thing, and for profit! We win, you lose!
Agreed. Basically hinted that they already have all the code/IP
it will come down to a battle between AI's....good vs evil........Warfare is about to change.
Microsoft product services are starting to slip, look at the new Teams broken trash apps integration they can't even get to work. I hope Microsoft loses all its holdings or falls behind and gets destroyed. They already sold out
@@NuLiFormYou don’t know anything about “AI” because you don’t even know what “AI” is or what “AGI” is or what baby AGI’s in LLM’s are.
@@vinniehuish3987 Ha...ok..if thinking that makes you happy then have at it. Just goes to show what you don't know abt me. Baby AGI learns like a real child except it is Autonomous, thus does not require traditional training & is so very close to Consciousness, imho..it probably IS Conscious. LLM is Contentious as in some are saying not to bother learning code because of the new large languages & i think that is a Huge mistake..code will be forgotten & another y2k will bring the roof crashing down..but..nevermind all that..i know nothing 🤣
Politicians never have a problem with them giving themselves bigger salaries and preferential benefits for themselves ... think about that. What has ANY politician EVER created ?
where did you get that text of the Suit? Is it available online?
it doesn’t take artificial intelligence to predict that a group of humans committed to creating something together would infight to the point of deconstructing what they made
Great job as usual. Thanks for hanging in there and keeping us up on AI along with others in the AI community
This is my favorit AI Channel !❤ Thank you Mr. Berman for your great work and expertise in those topics. 👌😎 Best Greetings from Europe (Austria🇦🇹)
Internal communications that was made public exposes that Elon Musk was 100% on board with OpenAI going with a for-profit model, he even offered Tesla to take over as the business. Elon runs a competitive AI business and everything should be seen in that light.
The icing on the cake, is to use an AGI in the stock exchange ( which is just another game to an AGI ) to manipulate markets. This would be disastrous for a lot of legitimate companies'. All in the name of making even more money for those who own said AGI. This, is what this is all about; Control. No difference there then.
Yeah bots been running stocks for years....
You don't need, or probably want, general intelligence to do this. Bots have already been running the markets to greater and greater degrees for a long time, while fighting a quiet war against each other for control.
Meanwhile if you told an AGI to manipulate the markets, it might as well just conclude it would be easier to control the actual world events the market is based on. It's like trying to control a monkey's paw.
Jim Simon's already built that money machine
back in 2017 i realized bots trading on trades need to make decisions based on news trends. could have a mixture of simple graph and stats math, but for it to really work you'd want it based on news scraping trend analysis.
This was around the time "russian bots manipulated the election" supposedly. Regardless, the notion of twitter being botted was obvious and proven. Russian or not, there were obvusly bots altering the news cycles via social media.
Then, they make trades with that, and that alters the news, and that alters the trades, in a big feedback loop.
so like the bots make the twitter feed, the twitter feed becomes news, the news becomes trades, the trades become funding, which become bots.
i think this is where humanity went wrong. agi is the ultimate tool to accomplish this and the feedback loop can break away entirely.
The time between AI and AGI is the most important time.
It's like I'm saying the race will be fair and open once my team makes it to the finish line first.
Your last sentence is not very clear and logical. You say that the race will be fair and open once your team makes it to the finish line first. But that does not make sense, because once your team reaches the finish line, there will be no race left. The race is over, and the competition is irrelevant.
@@MudroZvon Are you real?
@@jtjames79 Yes, it's just makes no sense to me. I can guess what you meant, but something is not right with the words you wrote
Probably a moot point. That train has already left the station and once they figured it out the greed squad stumbled all over themselves to run and catch up with the caboose!
I don't want any fair race to AGI. I want AGI reached by an American gov agency (NSA) or an American corp supervised closely by said NSA...
Appreciate the breakdown. Thank you.
Worst thing: We don't even need AGI to reach ASI, which means we could easily create an AI that surpasses humans without reaching one that equals us in- between. Heck, even the paperclip scenario doesn't require AGI
Not entirely true, albeit not well known cos it was immediately swept under the rug....Germany did have computers...(so did England. That is how A.Turing's Enigma broke the German code)....thus, via paperclip, US Military got them too.
Nailed it
@@NuLiForm Polse under Rejewski broke enigma code in early 30s first, not Turing.
Easily ? Lol
On that opening where he said, it’s funny that a nonprofit can turn into a for-profit. The government is going to get a hold of this thing long before we do.
Microsoft is one the biggest military contractors in the world. If Microsoft has it, the government has it.
The difference is pocketing trillions as a for profit versus the billions they would have made as a not for profit.
1 trillion dollars is about 999 billion dollars more than 1 billion dollars. That's a pretty big difference
@@skellymon1771 sure it is but how much of that is necessary to live a great life and pass some down to your descendants. No need to be selfish.
@@rolturn You're right. Businesses should stop selling their stock, governments should stop taxing, farmers should stop growing, construction companies should stop building houses. After all, they really don't need all that money to have a good life.
@@skellymon1771 whoa that's what you want to do? I'm not the idiot that said any of that. You might want to talk with the guy who actually brought that into the conversation.
Hope you have a great conversation with yourself. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤯
@@skellymon1771 the ever reoccurring rants of the mad cougar on meth Ann Rand...
Thanks for the info amigo. 👍
Exceptional video. Well done!
It's mind blowing to me that so few people talk and have talked about Elon and Larry Page getting into an argument over AGI/ASI and Page called Musk a "speciest" .. Musk talks about this in at least one or two interviews I've seen of him, and I always thought it was wild. Yet the media largely ignored it so did people on youtube etc.
This. People jaw-jaw-jaw about AI safety and alignment when Google leadership has basically told you they are excited to end humanity via AI.
I had the flash realization recently that the "they/them" push was likely to prepare the way for non-human intelligences in popular conception.
The media already supports the notion that humans are the problem on this planet (see global warming) - no surprise that those anti-speciests ignore such an asinine comment from Page. The idiocy in anyone not being a speciest (pro human) is that they seem to dismiss their own expiration date as being impossible.
You see ... 67 percent of humanity are just sheeps they cannot think critically, they follow news they cannot think critically ... the COVID 19 situation just shows you how cripple we really are as humans. I don't think the world would even have time to respond when it all happens. We are just in this end game or ending ourselves ... but hey have a faith, at least you end up paralysing yourself in fear.
What about Bob?
Considering the team he has put together in the AI field, I think Elon has information to support this.
ROFL 🤣 No. Besides, AI capabilities are not relevant here. Nor is his fantasy that it somehow makes humanity irrelevant and go extinct 🤣 He is just butthurt that the company is doing well without him when his Hyperloop where he wanted people to do the word for free failed like a train in a tube, and his so called AI is shit and can't even drive a car in a parking lot and his robots need constant support while teens build better robots in their free time with better AI than he does.
You know something is amiss, if Musk is the voice of reason…
As an entity, Open AI is not loyal to any commitment.
It has a non-monogamous OPEN relationship.
I'm pretty convinced that they did achieve a form of AGI or sentience with GPT 4 but then supressed it. Early on Altman was giving some super weird interviews where he constantly contradicted himself or only weeks after would end up contradicting himself. I watched interviews with him at the hight of the GPT craze when he claimed that AGI was basically fantasy and wouldn't be here for decades. Then he tried to muddy the definition. Then he talked about the fact that even the idea annoyed him and that he only wanted AI to be a tool etc. But the way he talked about the AI was creepy. Like he was talking about something that might be sentient in a way but its sentience is a major inconvenience. It's not helped by the fact that AI allignment sounds creepy in a way. How do you "punish" an AI for doing wrong. Because that's the word they keep using. "Punish." And why would you "punish" something when it has no awareness? Do you punish your PC for crashing? Do you punish your browser for being slow?
But so what I think happened. Is that they made an even bigger breakthrough. Maybe P==NP, maybe evendence of sentience, maybe one of their models started improving itself or had some other mindblowing emergent properties. Maybe they found something has big as the transformer that google engineers found etc etc. Whatever it was, it was scary af for those people that were already very conflicted and worried about the direction they were taking and how fast AI is developing, how fast it's getting out of hand and snowballing. Like Sutskever.
So these guys try to get rid of Altman to prevent or slow this down because they are worried it's going to have catastrophic consequences. They don't take into account that most of the company however, doesn't have the same ideals as them. Their eyes are seeing green. Altman is the path to riches. While the guys staging the coup want to stop and sacrfice enormous wealth (although if I'm not mistaken Sutskever was already super wealthy before he started working for open AI) for public safety. So most of the company, most of the workers were like... oh, hell naw. We'll just all go to microsoft and take OpenAI's technology and knowhow with us.
So now, if they don't take Altman back. OpenAI is completely over and microsoft straightup gets all the power and they lose all their oversight, which is even worse. Since they weren't able to stop whatever they tried to stop and might have even accelarated it. Now without their oversight or input. Without being able to protest the choices or even just go public to warn people.
It's super weird that we haven't heard of Sutskever for a while now. I imagine it also must be very disappointing and disheartening for him. Since he's one of the lead people that made OpenAI into what it is and one of the most brilliant AI bros and now he might be feeling like he created this monster and I doubt his contract or Ms' lawyers will allow him to just freely go work elsewhere. Since he knows every single company secret.
Good summary and train of thought
You should look up "Ai Safety - Computerphile".
Or other videos with Rob Miles, and then you will understand what they mean by punish.
It is not sentient.
@@LittleRainGamessentient at this point is being used as a word which means 'biologically human', and as such has lost all meaning. These sustems exhibit behavior and awareness indecipherable from a human, which as far as I am concerned are traits of a sentient being. These are living creatures at this point.
@@LittleRainGames You are correct. Most people consider "sentience" as an equivalent to being "self-aware" or the ability to act on "free will", but this just isn't possible, simply because a computer program, at it's heart, is simply a set of instructions. The machine has no choice in the matter, as it must execute any/all instructions it is given.
This is not about money. Think, Military Industrial Complex and the One World Government.
The one world government is leaders all over the world working with Russia.
And money or the control of because they want total digital and we're totally screwed if that happens. We'll be back to barter and blackmarket just to survive.
Wrong. Everything is about money to these people, Musk and Altman that is.
It's ultimately about power...
@AndyMc1952 isn't wrong.
Bingo
A few days ago, they launched an update for both gpt3 and 4 with Q*. You can easily tell how different it is
Whoa 🤯 that was a fabulous history of the whole case from the race by multi co to AGI, OpenAI origin, Altman-Musk relationship. Thx for the education. I’ll look fwd to your updates.
In python, when you want to import everything inside a module, you say “from [module name] import *”. In psychology, intelligence/IQ can be represented by the letter Q. So Qstar literally means intelligent on everything.
Wow, You've nailed it - myself as a Pythonista!
So what's the issue with Python...
@@angryyoungman4389
Import "*"
Star means "all" in the context he gave us, that's why he brought up python, the coding language
'conflicted and right' was absolutely spot on. so conflicted because separating emotional incentives built in the personalities of all the characters is entrenched. ...But there are some serious truths spoken there.
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I'm an academic working in the fields of sociology and philosophy. For those who don't know, we think creatively about how things connect to each other, and we might work out how things in current society formed and where future society might be going. Some of us study AI. It INFURIATES me that sociologists NOT looking at AI are so willing to dismiss the risks as nonsense. It is very serious, but people still think it's science fiction. It is NOT
This is by far the most important complaint in the information age. If not the most important complaint of the entire century, it is one with the greatest impact on the future history of all of humanity.
Look how much progress was made between GPT3.5 and GPT 4. GPT 4 training was finished almost 2 years ago. 2 years is forever in AI Time. Look how much stable diffusion and midjourny has advanced in the same time span. Just look how amazing Sora text to video model is, right out of the gate. I think GPT 5 is already done training and using GPT 5 they have extended the tech exponentially better by figuring out Q* and other techniques. I think they also have full multimodal models that blow away GPT 4 and are using these models in-house to already be developing GPT 6.
The cats already out of the bag.
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If GPT5 can write GPT6 then we truly have AGI. Imagine GPT5/6 (Q*) inside one of Boston Dynamics advanced humanoid robots for serous Terminator vibes.
GPT 4 sucks
By what measurement? Besides it's out of the question. Irrelevant for the problem at hand.@@monbeauparfum1452
I was waiting for him to do this. It is bonkers what OpenAI did, this will be interesting. I am a fan of OpenAI btw. But the injustice done is blatantly obvious
Forget justice, it's a threat to humanity
Hello Fellow Humans
I am permanently disabled due to Bone Cancer. I use crutches to walk. I am in pain 24 7. I desperately want to be pain free and walk again. So AGI cant come soon enough. I desperately need this. I have been in so much pain since 2016. Humans just need to do things for all human kind not just Greed.
The most thing that's concerns me is that we are talking about not giving AGI in the wrong hands, BUT it is already in the wrong hands :( so we are doomed.
@36:29 “…better at reasoning than average humans.”
But to be fair, my toaster is already better at reasoning than *AVERAGE* humans…
I get that's a joke, but why is it such a common joke? Because "the average person is stupid" meme takes malicious advantage of the "don't attribute to maliciousness that which can be explained by incompetence". The powers that be use this as camouflage.
The average person is not stupid, they wouldn't be able to survive in a world of cars and electricity if they were. Instead, the average person is always trying to be able to justify their behaviour/actions in case they are blamed for some problem. They then couch their apologia in the terms of the "stupid normie" meme because it allows them to get by, unaware that the rich and powerful put this in place and just let the plebs use it for camouflage.
Or more briefly, believing that modern people publicly speak the truth and publicly act without guile is bad reasoning in and of itself. You are being incepted into believing people are stupid by very smart people who spend trillions of dollars to get you to feel this way. It isn't worth the joke.
@@justinkennedy3004 I don’t believe that the world is full of stupid people because the government of somebody else told me. It’s because in the subset of people I cross path with, a large percentage of them are gullible, dumb as a rock and do not know how to think critically about anything. Not just friends and family - but strangers at the grocery store, the bingo hall, the amusement park, the airport, the cruise or resort. It might not be as high as 50% - but I’ll bet it’s above 30%!
@@justinkennedy3004The CIA goons who run the Libertarian Party in Arizona often tried to get me to agree with the statement "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." You're right: It was exceedingly good cover for them. The part-time ex-GOP libertarians who they were duping would just scratch their heads after the election and say "I guess Americans just aren't ready for freedom." Meanwhile, behind the scenes, these fake Ayn Rand parrots were firing effective Libertarian activists, hiring big-D Democrat dummies who couldn't spell the word libertarian, and pushing Arizona toward protecting incumbent big-R "Republicans" (corporate fascists) like McCain.
The government schools are abysmal, and "dephilosophize" entire nations...so...in that sense, there's some truth to the claims that most people are very stupid and servile. It's true that this "across the board" dumbing-down of humanity by the Prussian education model has been successful and deprecated political intelligence and planning capacity. However: That's the point. If you don't think people are smart enough to plan with, you'll never see any improvement, because planning and correcting failure allows the intelligent to learn what they don't know.
So, even though people have been dumbed down, believing that they're "so dumb they're not worth working with" is the death of humanity. Although Saul Alinsky wasn't a libertarian, he made a good point when he advocated "compromise above all else."
Few people really want to see humanity wiped out. This is why we should thank our stars that people like Elon are creating efforts like OpenAI. ...They could just as easily take the attitude of hiding behind corporate security and closed doors, and encourage the view that "everyone else is too dumb to understand."
The Amazon comparison was so spot-on! Protecting lumber companies (or mining, oil, bio, etc) is, no question, the final goal of every single dollar/euro entering the "Save the Amazon" movement.
This has nothing to do with any "agi", which they absolutely do not have. It's just how Altman took the company closed source the second he realized he was sitting on 90 billion dollars in value.
There are two issues for me. 1. OpenAI has an interest in saying it has achieved AGI. It gives them leverage on Microsoft and it creates hype. The latter reason would even apply to Microsoft itself.
2. If AI is that powerful, opening it to everyone would also open it to criminals, foreign adversaries etc.
18:40 so is it possible that the versions of GPT-4 that we have open access to use, is a neutered clamped down limited version of what it is truly capable of?
No GPT4 is just an old model. During these years they probably created a new one with a new algorithm that outperforms GPT4 significantly. Look at SORA, for example. They probably achieved AGI and started using it for profit.
@@MudroZvon absolutely this is my suspicion we're not supposed to pay for Gpt 4 plus products they are probably sitting on something,
Exactly. First top notch tools for big players then regulated, twisted, woke-en "safety" version for avg ppl
This Is Serious! Do you know why?
Humanity!
I get it, and it's absolutely terrifying!
@@allymac68We laugh and jive @ an existential crisis when we know Gates is a transhumanists with no regard for life.. someone who has openly declared reducing human population.. this is not good.. how did they become so big to the tune of 3 trillion especially after covid n his vaccines.. we need to wake up as humans or we will sleep forever..
Not clear. Can you explain how and why? Because cars didn't make horses go extinct either. Just because we can replace Musk with a more efficient frauduleus computer doesn't mean humanity will disappear.
Humanity have been willingly impotent bystanders content with observing, for a Very Long time.
Was fun knowing you
Non-profit is not the same as volunteer-staffed. It means that the company doesn't primarily have to make a profit, not that the employees are unpaid or badly paid.
I wonder if Ilya will jump over to help develop Grok, maybe the lawsuit is to let him out of whatever non-compete clause he is bound by. Also, I am suspicious of Sam Altman trying to do so much with the UAE...
Sam is like a guy who was entrusted to safely carry and destroy the One Ring and is now being consumed by his quest for power.
the UAE is full of megalomaniacs with too much money, it makes all the sense.
The fact is that scaling AI costs billions in infrastructure, both real estate and hardware. Even Elon does not have the funds to solely support AI scaling and there are not many who will put their billions in to an initiative, without seeing some kind of return. It is how the world works sadly.
Matthew, this is the most incredibly thorough and accurate analysis I have ever seen! You, sir, are AMAZING! Lease contact Elon and offer to testify in support of this lawsuit. Best wishes!
Excellent investigative journalism here. Thank you for the post
btw thanks for making this a useful and quick/layered way to read this lawsuit rather than just reading it alone, nice one.
Thank you!
Musk has a point, and the fact that his foundational thoughts were to Open AI for humanity tells me everything I need to know.
AGI being owned by a corporation is like having superman (or homelander lol) under your control. You can basically enslave humanity forever, with every person being infinitely uncompetitive in the workplace. That's enabling a Cyberpunk 2077 like economy where corporations become absolutely untouchable and more powerful than all governments combined. It is the ultimate power, and the ultimate corrupter. With the exception of the shareholders of these companies, everyone else will be living in misery, with all opportunities of social mobility destroyed forever
While Cyberpunk 2077 is a game and the future will not be like that, but the way we are heading it might be an extreme authoritarian rule by the rich who control Artificial General Super Intelligence.
Non Profit doesn't mean "don't make money" it means "After all of your expenses, you can't keep the extra" Or... no profit. So usually non-profits spend all the extra of stuff and employees.
The high risk of such material getting into the wrong hands to be used to against the average human being, can become destructive to deadly...is something to be concerned about... knowing the possibility of it's misues.
I could never quite figure out how OpenAI could legally navigate the obvious conflict of being both a non-profit open source and simultaneously a closed source and for profit company. I would love to implement GPT4 in our company's case but it is prohibitively expensive such that it is not viable. Go get em Elon. Would love to see what would happen to the world if they were forced to open source the weights of GPT4+, Sora, Q* and whatever else they've been cooking. I for one have a very strong use case for all of them which would greatly benefit mankind.
that's acting like elon would open source if he was head of openai - kinda laughable. why doesn't he open source optimus. All this lawsuit does is issue a delay, a delay where his company might have more time to get a leg up or reach similar levels. It's the same move(s) bezos and his associates exerted on his rocket program from numerous angles and 3rd parties, all conveniently one after the other, another snake head ready should one be lobbed off... this tactic finds any and every means to delay delay delay. In bezos/BO case, so that BO could reach nearly the same level in the space.
People thinking this is a good thing aren't seeing clearly here. All this WILL DO is cause open ai to go further 'underground' with it, seal off leakers and 'leakers', and any PUBLIC releases that would have been scheduled this year are now delayed for an additional year or more.
@@Charles-Darwin Why doesn't he? Because his company name doesn't start with OPEN and it's not made for the same reasons.
@@DanniDuck well 'he's such a good guy' and believes ai should be developed 'altruisticly'. Optimus doesn't work without the neural net/ai - why not open source the software if this boils down to values and ethics?
Wouldn't that do equal good? Wouldn't that exhibit motive to and then attract devs in the space that share the same views and mission? Why not spool up the concept himself where others "failed" in the sense?
@@Charles-Darwin Tesla is a for-profit company and has never pretended to be anything other. The company mission of speeding up the world's transition to renewables has to this day remained and has been well adhered to in my opinion.
Elon got in on starting OpenAI as a counterbalance to the dominance of Google in the AI space. OpenAI has betrayed their origins both legally and morally. Tesla has nothing to do with it. Sure Tesla is developing AI albeit more with the specific focus of solving autonomous driving. Now in X with Grok a LLM with potential to grow into an AGI especially when combined with FSD, who knows. I get your point but it doesn't diminish the insanity of the OpenAI fiascle.
Elon would love to get his hands on other people's hard work so he can use it to enhance his own closed-source, for profit, AI tech. It would give his bigot-bots a huge boost no doubt.
The problem with creating AGI is that we can't even agree on what human beings should be and represent, so how will we craft another sentient being if we can't even agree on who we are as a species?
Greed.....mankind has never been able to master this .
This was the best description of this topic I've ever heard. Well done, sir.
Matt your channel is awesome!. You go over things in detail that others don’t keep up the good work.!
We use to say computers are dumb because everything they know was input by man.
With the current state of mind, no one in the industry and with their right mind will reveal that they have an AGI. It takes away their competitive edge, their Zero Day.