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Fury Over Drew McIntyre Screwjob! WWE Clash At The Castle 2024 Review | WrestleTalk Podcast
WWE Clash at the Castle 2024 saw Unholy Union shockingly win the women's tag team titles... but Drew McIntyre lose out on the World Heavyweight Championship in his home country, thanks to one CM Punk. Join Oli Davis & Sat E. Niangi as they review the PLE.
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âIf Drew wins heâs form the UK if he loses heâs Scottishâ
-Wade Barret
We call that the 'Andy Murray' rule.
Haha classic xD
Really disappointed with the decision to not live watchalong these PLEâs. I donât have much wrestling friends and WrestleTalk filled that void. Hope they can look past the small setback they had the last PLE
What happened the last PLE
@@J_keane They said they didnât make enough money to justify them doing watch alongs for B shows
@@byronwilliams3050 to their credit i get it because i'm sure they wanna not call in the guys on saturdays. would be worth it if they got a decent boost but not true
Is that because they were hiring out entire venues to do them though? I liked the in studio watch alongs much better and surely they'd be cheaper to do?
@@gunnersfan111 I don't know if that's true. There's lots of revenue coming in because they sell tickets to those. If they just do a Livestream with the boys, that's still work, and they still have to pay their people to work on a weekend, and the only revenue is coming from super chats and such, I'd guess. This all from the outside looking in, obviously
If I don't like a finish nowadays, I remind myself of WM39, I calm down, and I let them cook. (I liked this ending, btw; Drew can't be champion until he becomes a better version of himself, and Damien needs more time to establish himself as a strong WHC).
I love this point. Drew needs to let go of his malice before he becomes worthy. Great story so far
Damien is never going to establish himself as a strong whc. They put the title on a midcarder at mania and he continues to wrestle, act, and look like such.
EDIT: "never" is a strong word. He could do it one day I guess if he gets another chance at it but this reign isn't it.
Heâs donezo in two months and has needed outside interference to retain in every one of his defences.
Love that "Drew can't be champion until he becomes a better person" concept!
â@@eddieroche8176 So did Roman, and yet the lemmings insist he was a "dominant" champion.
That CM Punk referee reveal was done perfectly.
Top tier production
How the camera sequence was shot for the CM Punk screwing Drew job...AMAZING!!! Definitely can tell Kevin Dunn is gone.
Why are people surprised over this? Itâs very obvious from basically Mania that Punk v Drew at Summerslam and Gunther beating Priest before going to into Bash at Berlin as champ was the best way to go. WWE nailed the booking once more
The reason nobody was criticizing Priest was because he looked like her couldâve very badly hurt himself
It had nothing to do with Jade being a woman, she stumbled and landed on her feet, Priestâs fall looked nasty
You can hear Jessika Carr say "Don't tap, don't tap" to Jade when she did, so, l think she just did it without thinking.
How many submissions has she ever even been in outside of training?
The brilliance of the Chad chopblock on Maxxine is that Chad already used the logic the other week that the guy who gets hit into somebody is the one at fault. So now, how was he supposed to convince Otis it was the opposite this time.
Punk x Drew about to be feud of the year. So much Chemistry between the two.
And we havenât even gotten a single match between these two :). Their first bout gonna be a classic!
â@@emeraldninjalink6312, just hope Punk doesn't get hurt during the match. And I don't mean that in a salty way. As good as this feud has been without a match...I hope we can get a few good matches.
Fucking stupid angle. What ref gives a wrestler a Referee shirt? And why didn't she go out as a replacement ref? Illogical and if AEW did it, everyone would be so pissy.
I have an image of how this World Heavyweight championship feud could go. Drew wins the MITB Briefcase, and Gunther wins the title at Summerslam. Punk wins the Royal Rumble and beats Gunther at Wrestlemania with Drew cashing it on on Punk at Wrestlemania to win it back.
Love that pitch
Cinema
I worry for Punk's entire body if he has to have a match against Gunther. Man smacks the souls out of people
Not complaining but SAT and Oli are so beyond a different vibe than Dan and Luke, it's rather jarring.
Anyway, I thought the end was great.
SAT talks so muchđ
Yeah and i absolutely despite Dan, so this is saying a lot
@@puzzypoppa611 lil bro mad someone criticises AEW lol get help bud.
Luke is too âholier-than-thouâ, canât stand him. Dan is cool tho
Like and oli are easily the best combo, no disrespect but sat rambles and Dan always has to get the feminist point across, I get it but sometimes itâs too much
51:52
Damian Priest didn't get a title in his first 3 matches, while Jade did.
Damian Priest is not portraited as this god that can beat 4 people at the same time, while Jade did during that match.
It's a huge dissonance from being portraited as this invincible goddess meanwhile she botches every match that's not a 2 minute squash.
The negative reception to Jade, at least for me, is in fact a negative reaction on how she is booked and portraited. It's nothing wrong for somebody to learn the ropes, but there are many other women that already "learned the ropes" that get ignored or are used as squash matches to pander to Jade.
Sat with the comment of episode: âHad Drew not messed with CM Punk at Wrestlemaniaâ, Drew absolutely created this situation for himself and heâs reaping the consequences
Also, shout out to Sat again for carrying the title for the whole show! Canât wait for the summerslam livestream!
I popped massively for that camera angle alone, the whole angle was done to perfection. I love this feud man â€đ„đđŒ
GLAD TO SEE Sat E
People hating on Priest will also hate on Guntherâs 95% chest chop matches as HVWC
Priest should change his ring gear. His ring gear screams "Badass Mid Card". I think that would help.
Literally the same as Undertaker, how is Undertaker gear midcard?
@morlun838 Undertaker did it first so it's not a mid card look on him. Don't misread me here, I'm a big fan of Priest and I support his reign, I was just speculating on why Ollie doesn't see it.
Love seeing Sat on the videos! Great show, would have really liked a live reactions, but I get it.
Fun show. Priest really needs a clean win. I'm a big Priest guy, and he can be a proper world champion. I hope this isn't his last reign. Drew getting screwed again does more for Drew's character. I loved it. I wonder what Jade and Bianca will do next. I don't think they should've loss the titles this soon. They were elevating the belts, and now they'll fall back into obscurity. Jade isn't fully there yet to build to Bianca vs Jade. Hopefully, they win those titles back.
Nothing says proving yourself like not being able to put anyone away yourself. WM was Punk helping him, Backlash was JD, and now Punk at CatC.
The ending was perfect. And now sets up two main event type matches for Summerslam right off the bat
More Sat E please
For Sat's Zain case, Sammy also was the true spark to make the Bloodline go nuclear. He helped it get hot when he joined as honourary uce then helped the Roman hype when he turned on it to spark the chase for the eventual downfall.
Talk to em SAT!!!!!
I apologize for being negative but SAT's rants do be going on way too long. Just lane the plane, brother.
I think itâs going to take a lot for WWE to make Drew to be a main event threat. Drew really looks like a choke artist. Even when he wins at Wrestlemania he loses.
Ollie! You really gotta stop whispering when on the mic. As someone who listens to this in the car I have to turn it up only for your next line to blow my speakers out. No hate at all just figured Iâd lyk!
All I got from this was that Drew was indeed Scottish.
No, Sami should be no where near the Heavyweight title.
And if you don't bring back set I'm going to eat this entire container of these like weird ass sausages you get for a buck
I honestly thought the botch added to the match
The host whose not Oli watched a completely different show. His "opinions" really had me saying wtf??
You canât compare priest to JBL. The heel JBL is a far superior character. He was instant heel for what he did to Ron and then his subsequent promo made him top quality heel.
They did shortchange the live crowd for the benefit of their long term plans. The thing is, they do high price shows in Glasgow so infrequently they don't have to care about burning the town, because they will be able to sell a different match to a starved audience all over again. What's strange is that the undercard was designed to send them home happy, but the main event wasn't. Jade and Bianca probably could have kept the belts until the moment they break up, and Bayley have Piper the ring so she could have a moment with the crowd.
Onwards to Gunther going into Berlin as the defending world champion, probably.
Punk won't be at this Monday Raw but will be at this Friday Smackdown (Chicago)
Honestly I get both of your opinions about priest. I honestly think it's the judgement day that's making him seem Mid card still. He needs to get rid of them and just go on a tear.
I'd like to see him turn baby face and fued with fin
â@@MrStrawberry86Just for Finn to eat his 100th pin in the last two years? No man, Priest needs to beat *credible* wrestlers that are hungry, not "I'm just glad im getting a paycheque and hanging out with my friends" goofy veteran Finn Balor.
@JoeChianelli yeah good point I guess so however I think it would be the right decision for gunther to beat priest at either summerslam or Berlin so building a priest v fin fued could be a good way to further priest and start breaking up judgment day?
@@MrStrawberry86 I feel like if they hadn't made Orton lose so much already since returning, and he wasn't busy with KO vs the Bloodline, he would be the perfect person to put Priest over for good. Gunther beat Orton (albiet in a very cheeky way) so its a believable path to build Priest up, but still not being *quite* as good as Gunther in Berlin.
Who is angry about this? I went to the show fully knowing full well Punk was going to cost Drew⊠It was obvious. Itâs better for the story theyâre building. It was near perfectâŠ
Drew wasn't ever winning this, he knocked the referee out by shoving Priest into him
This was an outcome that could be seen from miles away
Styles vs Marufuji sounds great. A dream match I never thought of just because they never were close to each other EVER at any point in their career. But when it comes to the current in ring style of wrestling, those two might be the two most influential performers on the current generations. Give me that, it's gonna be awesome. Also it makes me wonder of Kitomiya or some other NOAH guy might show up on NXT next week....
When it comes to Damien, my concern was that he ended up the third wheel once the match was over and he as it stands doesn't feel like a credible champion. I like Damien too and I'd of felt better if Drew had gotten booted in the face by Punk during the pin rather than it being very clear Damien was decisively beaten in that moment where it not for Punk referee spot.
I love Satâs positivity when it comes to wrestlers that many fans donât give a fair shake (in this case Priest). Heâs so good at giving impassioned speeches highlighting how great wrestling can be, even if itâs going in a direction we as fans might not immediately like/agree with. I wish I had Satâs ability to cut promos đ I have a friend who loves wrestling but also hates everything that every company is doing at all times. I can only counter him so much with a positive spin before I just lose my patience and walk away
Not super keen on SAT, he seems lovely but not vibing it.
1:53 on the live reaction thing. You guys like to call things before they happen. When I watch (like wm40) I forgot all about the rock, and was legit shocked when he came same for Cena, yet when you guys watch you call the spots ârock where is he he should be comingâ it ruins it so much Iâm happy yall can watch it like that but I canât.
They can have a 5min dialogue defending WWE but can have a 5-minute dialogue defending AEW which is still a new company
What a PLE. These international ones are great. Good energy, great matches, best stories.
I now want to hear a song for Otis..... (based on Queen I want to break free)
Otis wants to break free... Otis wants to break free...
Otis wants to break free from his lies, his despise. He's Despicable Me... Otis want's to break free...
Otis let's now break free... Otis let's now break free...
Otis let's now break free from his lies, his despise. He's Despicable Me... Otis let's now break free...
That 2 hour preshow nearly broke me!
Great to see Sat on the podcast.
CM Punk wearing a Celtic tracksuit I was dead seeing that đđđđ
I think the issue with basing the Live Reactions success off of how King and Queen of the Ring might have something to do with people still not supporting/watching Saudi shows
The women's tag titles completely threw off my predictions in wrestleleague. It looked like isla might have hurt her hand/arm from how much she was shaking it and it meant that Chad wasn't winning like I had predicted.
Got the other matches right though lol.
Bring back sat e day smackdown review
I love how SAT calls oli out on his bad criticism and oli if anyone criticizes aew alot it's you
I would have preferred a Drew win but this result just turned one of the hottest feuds going into Summerslam absolutely nuclear. 100% the right call to screw Drew.
Maybe it's just me both Damien Priest and Baron Corbin are very similar and would be a great tag team together.
Do yall really think the noise meters are real? Lol
Even the way Drew pinned Priest added to it. On his toes with his head back not looking towards punk until the third count never came.
It did look like priest smacked his head as well when we went over. I was watching it in a party chat with others who were playing destiny 2. I scared them by yelling jesus christ Damian
Punk doing the âïžmeme was genius.
We're getting our first wwe blood feud in years. Both men have genuine reasons to hate each other. I love it. Also between summerslam and bash in Berlin we know where the whc is going. So your choices were give drew his moment and have it wasted in a month or give him a different kind of moment and have it build to something memorable?
Enough of Priest being "mid-card." Dude has main evented two of three hottest crowd shows (clash and Backlash) as the heel. He made R-Truth and Miz feel big time in 2024 as the foil to truth's silliness. He never puts on bad matches unless they are forced to have zombies.
Priest is a bona fide main event star. Believe that
My pitch is when the drew vs punk match happens. Drew squashes him Brock lesnar or moxley style. At least for the first match I guess
Drew comes out.
Quietly, calmly looks down the camera.
"Im not here to compalin, bitch or anything....im here to kill punk, i resigned to kill punk".....and he become the 1st sacrifice for the wyatt 6....back for summerslam having to team with punk against them....to either turn and join or punk to turn and be their leader.
SAT-E-DAAAAAAAAY!!!!!! đȘđŸđđ
It feels more like CM Punk screwed Drew than WWE screwed Drew. That alone makes me think it was the right call.
To do such a big loss with a guy but not have it feel like it's the company saying "He's not our guy" is how you do big losses
The end of the match was as stupid as it gets.
Sat is the Jinder Mahal of Wrestletalk đ
Ya are forgetting one thing. Yes, Drew took another L, but I have a feeling Triple H is looking for Wrestlemania
Wembley Stadium setting an attendance record and giving Drew the ultimate đ«Ą on winning the title on the biggest stage. We are in for a hell of a ride. Drew is bulletproof right now and is becoming even a bigger star on the other side of the Punk story. Let's just sit and enjoy every bit of it
Sat is Right X2 Clash In The Castle Premium Live Events
Drew McIntyre As The Main Eventer going for a Title loses the match sings with Tyson Fury in Wales which was đđ€Łđ€źđ€źđ€ź now loses in his own patch in Scotland
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Only to understand that der is a bigger picture in this puzzle like Ollie said Alba Fyre had a horrible month so her tag-team win was a good pop for Scotland to see der own win in their own back yard done with Love and Respect to show her she is loved and cared for after what she is going through and Scotland sees a Title won in their hometown
It's what will happen at the Next"Clash In The Castle" will be in London or North England like or In "IRELAND AS Their is loads of Irish Wrestlers Representing Ireland"
I figured he lose because he got so much promotion and promo packages for promoting clash at the castle. usually thats a typical sign of hyping someone up to fail on purpose. I thought it was a Vince McMahon thing and we've gone away with that but apparently, its a WWE thing. I understand its to promote more of long term storytelling but its not and dosent work anymore.
Bash at Berlin have Cody/AJ 3, hell in a cell. Every time they go out to Europe this year they have a banger match.
HHH didn't screw up, he knew what he was doing. It did suck Drew didn't win, but the screw job by Punk was perfect. It took me a second to realize it was Punk and the way he had his fingers turned for the two count, that was a British thing. Don't really like Punk, but this build between him and Drew has been great.
I'm with sat I want the usos back. Stop this solo run
That was beautiful I hope this never dies
I though for sure Drew was winning, so the Punk appearance really popped me. Right call for the story.
yes.
Sat that booking of roman returning to lose to cody at summerslam is TRASH. Take it back!
On Monday, Chad will do the regular scolding Alpha academy thing and Otis will finally stand up to Chad. Chad will say I'm proud of you for doing that. I did not think you had it in you and then the creeds will attack. Chad will have them beat Otis and tozowa down while Ivy Nile chokes out Maxine and Chad, then officially introduces you to the new Alpha academy.
SatE just talks a lil too much
I think to answer The WHO wins the feud?I think it's drill and I think he does it via money in the bank.I think punk finally wins the championship.
And then drew cashs in
The clash, the casual want to complete embarrassment dumb to be dead, a poor booking for clash of the castle because they decided to bring back CM Punk, which made no sense. Because of the relationship that Triple H had with friends in Kennedy, McMahon during his lawsuit, which just makes no sense poor booking completely.đ€Ź
I think Drew and punk will both walk the line of face/heel and let the fans take sides
Gonna hate not having live reactions theyâre great when not watching wrestling with other people
Best faction on aew idc house of black and the elite come after even with the entrances
Sat is the best, it feels like he wants to do more but they donât want him to for some reason đ
I think he aired out the reason in the beginning. For some reason they keep putting him on streams/vids that don't do well. I miss the smackdown show with Sat and Tempest it was one of my favorites
He can only do weekends as he works another Mon-Fri job which limits what they can do with him
Nah man. Heâs a lovely guy, but heâs wayyyyyy too much for a lot of people. And that is usually shown in view counts
They don't really need him if there's no SmackDown review
@@rastagaming2116 He has the same passion as Luke/Dan/Pete/Tempest so idk what you're getting at lol
Drew can be a babyface by sinply coming out and being humble for 1 promo.
Put over thst he did have the champ beat, but thems the breaks, and once hes done killing punk hes coming for that title.....vs gunther....at wrestlemania.
MiTB.....whos winning?
I really didn't like the crowd. The football chants and 80's songs were getting old. I almost started missing the lame "let's go ... đđđ" US chants. Almost đ
Why Cody is/isn't John Cena, I'd love to see that video
It's okay. Drew shouldnt just win because he was at home. Punk vs Drew doesnt need a title, and now you have more options with the Money in the bank winner, Gunther, Orton or whoever they decide to put Priest against at Summerslam. Drew and Punk have a story to finish and it's gonna get more interesting once Punk it's back.
Gunther has a guarantee Summerslam match for the WHC. Whether it's Priest we still have one more PLE to come beforehand.
Solid 8/10 show. Good pacing, booking made sense, CM Punk is still the GOAT.
Felt like a weekly, really dead show. With WWE events being 3 weeks apart, they all feel like special Dynamites back in the day, which would be good for a weekly but it's not enough for a huge event. They are all very predictable and the match quality isn't making up for the low quantity of matches. Takeover had 3-4 bangers, this has 0 bangers
Money in the bank next year in Chicago.Punk winds in the opening and he goes to blow a kiss through the crowd when he's bashed on the head by the Briefcase and drew mcintyre Pulled into the ring and pinned.
New WWE Attitude Era done knocked the uossy right out of Ollie đ this is Attitude Ollieđđđâ€
What IS the issue Here? Drew was the Last world.champ. He only lost the Title at mania. He cant be the Champ again, now its time for Other stars
My friend and I are not watching RAW. It's a crap show. Paper champ, don't believe in Sami as a champ (he is a better underdog), no Liv matches, tag Champs are boring. It feels futile and Clash pissed us off.
Hail to the Champ! Long may he reign!
would you have have gunther take the belt off damian or take it off drew at summerslam?
either way could have been fine. Drew doesn't need a year reign, just a run with it in front of fans, but it also makes sense to not do that. Gunther has to win at Summer Slam, so yeah Damien does make more sense.
Makes sense. Drew winning here would have been a good moment but him losing is better for storyline. Feud with Punk doesnt need any title.
What happens when Punk comes back and gets injured again, for the 3rd time back to back to back? It wastes a ton of Drew's story.
You mean, what if Punk comes back and gets injured... It's a meme sure but it's not 100% guaranteed that Punk gets injured lol.
This won't be read, but I will write it anyway.
They gave you angry clickbait! You should all be grateful. Everyone who hates WWE or, like me, stopped watching with any regularity after they went to Saudi Arabia following Jamal Khashoggi's death, will watch and say "see! WWE is rubbish. "
They know you will all talk about it and pump up the show to have a good gate next time as well, and they can deliver another disappointment for the benefit of long-term booking.
I guess the mistake was thinking CM Punk wasn't the most important F.I.B. in the world.
And in conclusion the Bears still suck.