We normally shoot dramatic shows and feature films, so I´m used to the traditional cinema camera workflow of single cam TV and film set, where you go with a heavy camera, focus puller for each camera, video assist, separate audio recordist with a boom operator, etc... And since I started a while ago a really never had the chance to step in the DSLR Video camera space. Normally fully fledged cinema cameras are really heavy, a fully fledged Red Epic Rig we used to shoot a film in the mexican jungle some years ago weighted something around 40lb, it was all hand held and I ended up with a shoulder and neck injury operating the camera and that´s nothing compared witha a full fledged Alexa, or Sony F55 with the RAW recording unit attached to the back. So the weight of the Ronin feels like a feather pillow to me compared to the monster frankenstein rigs I´m used to. Saying that I really do think it´s necesary to bring an easy rig or any other form of support with it because the way it rests on the arms is a brutal on the biceps and can get painful on multi day shoots. But what I really enjoy in this camera is that it´s super fun to use, you can get really nice moving shots with it with almost no effort, it has everything integrated so you dont have to carry around a tod of accesories to make it work, and it cuts a lot of costs; I don´t know how it works over there but here when you rent camera equipment you have to pay for the gear and bring an extra person that supervise that equipment, so for all the things that the 4d has, gimbal, video assist, focus, we are talking about three extra guys, that above of their respective wages have to be transported, fed and insured. So in a multi-week shoot costs just blow up to the sky. That´s why I love this camera.
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Hey just because of the audio topic. i use a zoom m3 mic on my ronin 4d. it connects to the trs jack but also records internally 32bit float. so far it is my favorite combination
If you are keeping the camera you should definitely get the dji ssd. If you have the 7” high bright monitor I highly recommend the 3 channel follow focus from dji. You can set limit points and mark points in between with haptic feedback, 3 resistance levels, zoom rocker, and you can also see limit points on screen when not in mirror mode. Also you can have the iris slider and focus wheel illuminate if needed. Good video by the way! I subscribed and liked of course.
It's taking elements from different manufacturers such as: 1. Sony Rialto >> 4D Flex Free head movement without restrictions 2. Steadicam >> 4 axis to help vertical movement compared to 3 axis gimbals that help horizontal plane. 3. 1st AC >> Lidar focus, autofocus Vs proper 1st AC manual focus 😮 The list goes on, you'll save cash in the long run if you aren't hiring extra crew. But more stress on you to nail the job for clients.
see as somebody who uses the Ronin 4D as his only camera or not only but his a camera for me I think a lot of the points you make about it not being the best camera or truth it is not the best camera for one specific thing but I think it is the only camera in the world that can do pretty much everything for example if you bought its counterpart in the fx6 you would have a camera that is great however the fx6 number one has a freaking horrible menu system and even after learning it it is still aggravating me bad and will slow you down second I think one component that a lot of people don't realize is with the 4D Flex cable you can turn this camera into a traditional Cinema Camera which takes all of the issues that would normally come with operating the Ronin 4D as the whole unit instead of a split and there are some very good videos of people doing exactly that that I don't think a lot of people realize is even a capability of the camera let's do of course another comparison between the fx6 and the Ronin 4D as a primarily solo operator the ability to access almost every function on the camera from the Dual joysticks is indispensable to me now that I've had it I also think for that reason it is the perfect camera for one man band operation it allows you to use such a wide variety of lenses if you lock the gimbal off while retaining all of the electronic follow Focus capabilities that you would normally have to spend like $500 on a motor plus a special grip to even get however on the Ronin 4D you only need to buy the motor another misconception is that the camera cannot handle heavy lenses that's not true it can handle very heavy lenses all you have to do is add lens support which isn't nearly as hard as people make it out to be another thing is if you're going to make this your only camera you want it to be extremely versatile which the Ronin 4D is you can use it in a whole hell of a lot of situations and with all of its accessories it opens up so many options that just make it impossible to say that the Ronin 4D isn't the best one man band camera because when you look for a camera at least when I do for solo operations I look for something that could be on a gimbal I look for something that I could use handheld and in all other variations that might come such as on a car mount no other camera gives me the ability to do that with a 6K sensor that can also record internally prores Raw I think a lot of the time and in this review as well you have not taken advantage of the Ronin 4 D's biggest asset and that is its extreme versatility in the upgrade modules that it sells the reason I bring up the fx6 is because it costs about as much as a out Ronin 4D and it's also its direct competitor when it comes to best camera for solo shooters a fx6 that is fully rigged out which means the mountain battery it means lens gimbal second monitor because the first one is Tiny and cage and follow Focus you're looking at about 14,000 after tax if not a little more or a little less depending on some of the brands you choose to get to where you want to get now if you look at the Ronin 4D in comparison for 14000 you get the body of the Ronin 4D you get a lens you get the Focus motor you also get two extra batteries xlr plate the 4D Flex cable the backpack to put the camera in oh plus the Ronin 4D actually comes with a travel case that you can use which the fx6 doesn't and you can also throw in a hole cage for the 4D camera so you can use it in more of a traditional Cinema Camera shape while having larger lenses on it so if we take a look at these two fully rigged out cameras side by side one has a lot more flexibility than the other does and if you're like me a person who does a whole bunch of different stuff not just weddings Not Just Sports not just commercial then this being your only camera is in my opinion the smartest choice you can make if you are strong and fit enough to Lug this brick around or with the flex cable it's like 5.5 lb so there's that
Thanks for commenting! You have some fair points! We think that the ronin 4D offers a lot for solo shooters, but when you compare it to other cameras, it’s all about your end use case. The ronin 4d offers a lot, but with the flex kit, multiple lenses, the backpack, etc, you would have a comparable price to a fully rigged out FX6 with DJI ronin RS3 kit. Do we like using one over the other? Not really, just depends on the shoot and what it needs. :)
We normally shoot dramatic shows and feature films, so I´m used to the traditional cinema camera workflow of single cam TV and film set, where you go with a heavy camera, focus puller for each camera, video assist, separate audio recordist with a boom operator, etc... And since I started a while ago a really never had the chance to step in the DSLR Video camera space. Normally fully fledged cinema cameras are really heavy, a fully fledged Red Epic Rig we used to shoot a film in the mexican jungle some years ago weighted something around 40lb, it was all hand held and I ended up with a shoulder and neck injury operating the camera and that´s nothing compared witha a full fledged Alexa, or Sony F55 with the RAW recording unit attached to the back. So the weight of the Ronin feels like a feather pillow to me compared to the monster frankenstein rigs I´m used to. Saying that I really do think it´s necesary to bring an easy rig or any other form of support with it because the way it rests on the arms is a brutal on the biceps and can get painful on multi day shoots. But what I really enjoy in this camera is that it´s super fun to use, you can get really nice moving shots with it with almost no effort, it has everything integrated so you dont have to carry around a tod of accesories to make it work, and it cuts a lot of costs; I don´t know how it works over there but here when you rent camera equipment you have to pay for the gear and bring an extra person that supervise that equipment, so for all the things that the 4d has, gimbal, video assist, focus, we are talking about three extra guys, that above of their respective wages have to be transported, fed and insured. So in a multi-week shoot costs just blow up to the sky. That´s why I love this camera.
Hey just because of the audio topic. i use a zoom m3 mic on my ronin 4d. it connects to the trs jack but also records internally 32bit float. so far it is my favorite combination
If you are keeping the camera you should definitely get the dji ssd. If you have the 7” high bright monitor I highly recommend the 3 channel follow focus from dji. You can set limit points and mark points in between with haptic feedback, 3 resistance levels, zoom rocker, and you can also see limit points on screen when not in mirror mode. Also you can have the iris slider and focus wheel illuminate if needed. Good video by the way! I subscribed and liked of course.
It's taking elements from different manufacturers such as:
1. Sony Rialto >> 4D Flex Free head movement without restrictions
2. Steadicam >> 4 axis to help vertical movement compared to 3 axis gimbals that help horizontal plane.
3. 1st AC >> Lidar focus, autofocus Vs proper 1st AC manual focus 😮
The list goes on, you'll save cash in the long run if you aren't hiring extra crew. But more stress on you to nail the job for clients.
thanks for share¡ great video
see as somebody who uses the Ronin 4D as his only camera or not only but his a camera for me I think a lot of the points you make about it not being the best camera or truth it is not the best camera for one specific thing but I think it is the only camera in the world that can do pretty much everything for example if you bought its counterpart in the fx6 you would have a camera that is great however the fx6 number one has a freaking horrible menu system and even after learning it it is still aggravating me bad and will slow you down second I think one component that a lot of people don't realize is with the 4D Flex cable you can turn this camera into a traditional Cinema Camera which takes all of the issues that would normally come with operating the Ronin 4D as the whole unit instead of a split and there are some very good videos of people doing exactly that that I don't think a lot of people realize is even a capability of the camera let's do of course another comparison between the fx6 and the Ronin 4D as a primarily solo operator the ability to access almost every function on the camera from the Dual joysticks is indispensable to me now that I've had it I also think for that reason it is the perfect camera for one man band operation it allows you to use such a wide variety of lenses if you lock the gimbal off while retaining all of the electronic follow Focus capabilities that you would normally have to spend like $500 on a motor plus a special grip to even get however on the Ronin 4D you only need to buy the motor another misconception is that the camera cannot handle heavy lenses that's not true it can handle very heavy lenses all you have to do is add lens support which isn't nearly as hard as people make it out to be another thing is if you're going to make this your only camera you want it to be extremely versatile which the Ronin 4D is you can use it in a whole hell of a lot of situations and with all of its accessories it opens up so many options that just make it impossible to say that the Ronin 4D isn't the best one man band camera because when you look for a camera at least when I do for solo operations I look for something that could be on a gimbal I look for something that I could use handheld and in all other variations that might come such as on a car mount no other camera gives me the ability to do that with a 6K sensor that can also record internally prores Raw I think a lot of the time and in this review as well you have not taken advantage of the Ronin 4 D's biggest asset and that is its extreme versatility in the upgrade modules that it sells the reason I bring up the fx6 is because it costs about as much as a out Ronin 4D and it's also its direct competitor when it comes to best camera for solo shooters a fx6 that is fully rigged out which means the mountain battery it means lens gimbal second monitor because the first one is Tiny and cage and follow Focus you're looking at about 14,000 after tax if not a little more or a little less depending on some of the brands you choose to get to where you want to get now if you look at the Ronin 4D in comparison for 14000 you get the body of the Ronin 4D you get a lens you get the Focus motor you also get two extra batteries xlr plate the 4D Flex cable the backpack to put the camera in oh plus the Ronin 4D actually comes with a travel case that you can use which the fx6 doesn't and you can also throw in a hole cage for the 4D camera so you can use it in more of a traditional Cinema Camera shape while having larger lenses on it so if we take a look at these two fully rigged out cameras side by side one has a lot more flexibility than the other does and if you're like me a person who does a whole bunch of different stuff not just weddings Not Just Sports not just commercial then this being your only camera is in my opinion the smartest choice you can make if you are strong and fit enough to Lug this brick around or with the flex cable it's like 5.5 lb so there's that
Thanks for commenting! You have some fair points! We think that the ronin 4D offers a lot for solo shooters, but when you compare it to other cameras, it’s all about your end use case. The ronin 4d offers a lot, but with the flex kit, multiple lenses, the backpack, etc, you would have a comparable price to a fully rigged out FX6 with DJI ronin RS3 kit.
Do we like using one over the other? Not really, just depends on the shoot and what it needs. :)