2020 Toyota Camry & Avalon TRD Have Plenty of Bite | MotorWeek Road Test
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- f you’re familiar with Toyota racing development, it’s probably because you’re a fan of off-road trucks, or maybe you follow Toyota’s championship winning NASCAR teams. Well, now Toyota is spreading a little of that high performance love around to some very unexpected places.
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Toyota finally got me interested in a Camry, I never thought I’d say it.
I agree. The 2018+ are an improvement in the looks department for sure. I wouldnt get the TRD tho, id just go with the XSE, the TRD is too much of a "I look fast but am really not"...
But then again when I remember its still FWD , it turns me off..
BAU.SO88 they had AwDRive now but only with 4 cylinder
"Cool Camry, bro!" 😩😂😂😂
"Cool Camry, bro!"
-no one, ever
P M Wrong. I get so many compliments on my sexy ass camry. Lmao. Hater. 😇
Yeah these new Camries are really bad ass.
Dude I can’t even go to a car wash or a gas station without sum1 coming up to me to compliment my sexy ass trd Camry ❤️💯🔥
: for reals bro so many compliments it’s really such a head turner
Not very impressive acceleration for a 301hp car but holy crap, 94' braking from 60-0 is very impressive!
I believe a lot of power is lost in the torque converter of the automatic transmission. A 6-speed manual would wake it up and would be perfect for a car like this.
FWD, that's what slows it down, if it was RWD or AWD it'd be faster.. Plus i doubt it weighs less than 3.5k lbs, Still want me on..lol I'm a 09 Panther guy, Cop Vic!!
Would be better if they had traction
John Davis is a CGI...he probably passed away a long time ago peacefully in his home but the selfish bastards at MW realize that we appreciate his consistancy over the years and they don't want to let it go.
Lol
Wait, like his voice never changed? I'm 43. It's been like that since I was a child watching him talk about a 86 Nissan maxima
Hahahaha!
I used to watch this show every Saturday morning on my local PBS channel I watched from the time I got obsessed with cars when I was 15 which was 1994 to sometime in the mid 2000’s.
Well done Camry TRD, when was the last time the highest performance version of a car resulted in a lowered price? This is Toyota's answer to the Plymouth Roadrunner. Let's keep the momentum going with that 268 HP, AWD Yaris GR.
Let's keep the momentum going with that 268 HP, AWD Yaris GR. = AMEN!!!!
Looks like the bumper is missing from the Avalon. It makes the front fascia look huge!
I have to admit, this is the first time that I've considered a Camry!
Pontiac apparently lives on in the TRD Camry and Avalon.
Gg Rr great comment!
I hope it keeps on living. I love it.
Except it's engineered correctly.
Gg Rr - yea, we're talking topline Grand Prix (Camry TRD) and Bonneville (Avalon TRD) here,,,
Crazy to think my wife’s 2007 Camry v6 is just as quick as this car. Biggest reason that eight speed transmission!!TheTohper CZcams channel gives a good test drive and you can hear the transmission problems with a description.
Dev Rose it constantly hunts for gears!!! And it seems confused all the time.
MrNick98 So disappointing to hear about that! They should have stuck with the six speed. Had that transmission in Toyota’s for years had few problems! I get it they had to raise MPG’s. But they’re sacrificing a lot more with a jerky transmission.
I'm not gonna lie, I'm a sucker for cars like this. Like speciality cars that only a certain niche are interested in. I have a 2018 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T, 10 speed, but I like the Camry TRD. Mainly that exhaust. I could do without that wing. A spoiler like the Avalon has would work. What I found out is the TRD is based off the Camry SE model, so its pretty bare bones, but cheapest way you can get the V6. Only way before was getting XSE and a fully loaded XSE V6 is upper 30s to near $40k. I still like what they did. Reminds me of Acura CL type S, Nissan Altima SE-R, Mazadaspeed 3 and Mazadaspeed 6, etc...niche cars from early 2000s
I am a Toyota fan boy.. And as much as I love the Camry V6... Your Honda 2.0 T drive is altogether a better driving car than the Camry. Only thing that seems to drive almost as well in the segment is the Mazda 6 2.5T
@@unleashmybicho I appreciate that. I do love my Accord. Was kind of blown away by it, but I still liked the Camry as well. But I would have wanted the V6 and only way I could get that is with XSE model and a $37k sticker price, lol...i wasn't trying to spend that much, but I have owned several Hondas in the past and never had issues with them. Both are great cars, just comes down to personal preference and your wallet, lol.
Been waiting for this review good job
I’m guessing the front bumper is an option on the Avalon TRD! 🤣
Take that silly wing of the Camry and put the Avalon spoiler on it instead.
Then the Camry wouldn't stand out as much.
Monte Stu agreed
I wish they would integrate the 3rd brake light into it to make it appear nicer.
Sleepy time's over for THIS pair of Toyotas!!!!!
Damn these TRD models look good.
Good to see their the best in class performers. Sorry accord and Mazda 6. Good move Toyota. Now lets take it up another notch to shut the Toyota haters up even more. How about a Camry GR model ?
I read last year that Mazda is working on a new inline 6 and that the next Mazda 6 will be rear wheel drive! But who knows?
Cool video, I love the Camry/Avalon/Camry Hybrid/Avalon Hybrid!
Coming from the retro review of CamRay what a difference 20 years make..
6.5 to 60 mph? Kind of slow eh?
I agree. My 99 e430 is quicker
The review states their mpg they accumulated was from regular grade gasoline. Is that 87 octane?
This is the first time I’ve been interested in a four-door Toyota since the Corolla XRS. Nice!
That one came with a manual and I wish this Camry did as well.
Right Lane Hog - At least it’s not CVT. I don’t mind an 8-speed auto, as traditional autos have gotten so much better over the last 10 years or so.
But yeah. We need a manual option. Hopefully Toyota continues the trend and gives us an enthusiast Corolla with a manual one of these days and maybe, hopefully bring over the 6-Speed AWD Yaris GR for us to play with too.
@@rucarnuts13 Akio Toyoda needs to hear from you.
BMW designer moved onto KIA so watch out for the next hot car from the Hyundai group
Is a Sienna TRD around the corner?
I like motorweek reviews. Less jibber jabber than other car reviews. It's more straight to the point.
6.5?? Sure the 2007 Rav4 V6 was just as quick.
todd baker It actually gets around 5.7, MotorWeek does shitty launches, and their track has not been well-maintained
The RAV4 V6 Rules!!!
Right Lane Hog Yes them discontinuing it was the worst decision they ever made
RAV4 was faster than the civic si
@@JDMHaze I have never met an unhappy RAV4 V6 owner.
Cool Camry bro! My heart.
I would like this more if it didn't have the regular lights I think k this would have been better with the XSE LED lights vs just the SE lights
I really really like the looks of the 18+ Camry's, but 301hp is hard to believe with a 15 second quarter mile
StrykerV8 motorweek always gets slow numbers
Not slow for a family sedan.
Dima K I meant that MotorWeek always gets slower quarter mile/0-60 times than other reviewers, they always have. But yeah I agree anything under 8 seconds to 60 is going to feel pretty quick compared to most other cars
Pay more attention to the trap speed - this got 98mph which is commensurate with its power to weight ratio. The off the line traction, which they mentioned in the video, is the sole reason it got a bad time for it as the front wheels just spin slowly with the poor rubber that doesn't hook up. Part of this I guess is also that awful old track they used that had its pavement rubber coated from burnouts over the decades it has been used.
LOVE that TRD Camry! Toyota is doing an AMAZINg job injecting some sportiness in their brand. A TRD Camry with a 6-speed manual would be the icing on an already tasty cake.
I have a 2020 Avalon XLE in Black I like it because I'm driving with style and good looks.
Same engine with other Camry so basically, they just improved it with stiffer and lowered suspensions, add throaty exhaust, wings and body kits lol. I like the looks though.
Great stuff
I was thinking about this for my next car but I'll probably go Kia Stinger GT1 or get a used GT2. A bit more expensive if I go the GT 1 or 2 but is loaded, has awd and more Hp
Agreed, the stinger is a little monster. If reliability is a concern, they Kia has that 100k warranty.
Great looking cars especially the Camry. Is the Avalon really over $10,000 more expensive?
Avalon is essentially a de-badged Lexus.
Same quarter mile for my 2015 Avalon V6
Honestly why not? You get a vehicle that corners better around the city and you get something nice and reliable.
Just saw off that spoiler and you're good to go.
These cars needs Manual transmissions, as I heard from reviewers that the automatic be lagging and confused. A Manual would fix that problem! Thumbs up if u agree👍
I agree, but only for the Camry, i doubt the Avalon TRD will sell well with a manual. The Camry could be a real weapon with a stick.
Thumbs up indeed, but a manual transmission will not happen.
Currently I'm driving a 2006 Corolla TRD Off Road (aka every Corolla)
I thought it would have been at least in 14s for the 1/4 mile considering some v6 SUV's and vans can run mid 15s
what's more important is the trap speed - 98mph. that's consistent with about a 14.5 time. they probably could not get it to hook up on that awfully worn track they use.
@@oldtwinsna8347 yeah I guess I did not take that into consideration.
@@oldtwinsna8347 If you can't hook it with that road, you will do worse on an actual road. What does 98mph have to do with the time? I have seen cars run 15+ with almost 100mph times. It's all about the 60ft time.
You have no idea what you're talking about. This is a FWD car after all.
0-60 in 6.5??? that's ancient!
Car and driver got 5.6
These guys can't drive
@@UmarTheGreat10 5.6 is about what I was expecting considering it has over 300hp.
Something is definitely fishy about that 6.5 seconds to 60mph.
My 05 se-r hits 60 under 6 seconds...they probably tested with cold tires and didnt load the brakes..
any normal person will get the same mid 6second run.
unless you upgrade the tires and have them on a perfect track...good luck with a front wheel drive 4door
@@UmarTheGreat10 5.6 is laboratory conditions. You won't even get 6.5s on an actual road, because of the terrible traction.
Nice looking car. Think I`ll stick to the Accord Sport though. 49 less horsepower, but almost a full second faster in the quarter mile! Could the Camry be losing that much hp thru the drive line?
Pay attention to the trap speed - 98mph that's all that matters. The poor tires and the awful old track they used here (since abandoned as it was in dangerous/unsafe conditions) is responsible for the lagging time. If you're looking for a pure drag car, avoid FWD altogether.
Full exhaust...cold air intake...nitrous...Tune...RACE! 😂
The first gear is extremely short 5.52 it loses traction and stability control shuts power done
If only it was rwd with a 6spd... Game changer!
No corolla trd these are nice but just buy it much cheaper im sure
We should be getting a GR Corolla soon!
Is there not a massive recall for these cars underway?
Operaspia Yes but I think it's for the four-cylinder
@@msw7021 I thinks it's more serious than that....the temp wasnt right when they cast the engine blocks
Operaspia If I'm not mistaking the 2018 Camry's had a recall stating that the Pistons were too large
It's for the hybrid version too, I believe.
People will still be buying Ravs and Highlanders and driving them at 5-10 mph below the posted limit. I miss the days when people drove cars instead of worrying about nav systems and rear view cameras.
Yup!
If only a turbo 😕
Kelly Austin 3D performance releasing a turbo kit for Camry 2018+ xse v6 and trd. It's a comp turbo good for up to 400- 750 horsepower about this turbo its a CTR 3281E
This car is nearly 50k in Canada. The Kia Stinger 3.3t AWD is a better value and can transport a 65-inch tv while running 12s.
Trying desperately to get a friend of mine to go for a Stinger when she gets her next car
cool camry bro xD john you're awesome
300hp and it takes 6.5 seconds to 60mph? that's the slowest 300hp car i've ever heard of. maybe they should have gone awd to avoid the 2 seconds of tire spin at the start.
AWD would have been nice but IS350 AWD is only 5.5 sec 0-60. This is 5.7 (yes i own one) - adding all the things people criticize (AWD, LSD, turbo or supercharger) would make this about $10K more.
Toyota makes TRD camry yet doesn’t offer a LSD option or built in the package. Most who get a TRD Camry wouldn’t mind paying 1k more for a true LSD.
I watched the whole episode just to know what the 0-60 of the Avalon will be ...& nothing .Certainly not the same since its fuel consumption is higher so heavier car.
Great looking cars!
Toyota: WE ARE BRINGING BACK THE SUPRA!!!!
ENTHUSIASTS: NICE BMW BUILT BY MAGNA BRO
TOYOTA: WELL THEN HERES A CAMRY THAT TEENAGERS WILL THINK IS COOL!
I LIKE LOUD SPEAKERS lol
Ditch the spoiler
96ws6ta please🙏🏽😭
Really excellent job Toyota!
These would be cool is the Lexus IS f-sport & GS f-sport weren't around...
Buyer beware.....235/40/19's are close to $1000 to replace all 4 tires....and you better have a set of wheels and tires for the winter....another $1000!
Milford Civic That is common on many different automobiles. One should never buy cheap inferior tires.
A set of Pirelli P-Zero's in 235/40/19 will set you back $681.32. A set of 18" wheels with snow tires wouldn't be "cheap" but no different than if you owned a GTI or similar.
Milford Civic name a car that doesn’t need tires
My 1990 Camry has 185/70R14’s and I bought new tires last month for $300. The good old days
My 16inch winter tires cost close to 1000$ for my Corolla .. Tires are (can be?) expensive
More horse power please!
TRD V6 AWD.............
15 seconds quarter mile ?
The TRD should be in the high 13s
Lol, the early 90s prelude was still faster
That spoiler is absolutely out of place.
“Cool Camry bro!”
The Avalon's front grill reminds me of a 97-03 Pontiac Grand Prix.
So the Nissan maxima goes a bit faster even with cvt on it? Damn logic
@Ed Findlay thats true 😂😂
Dam camary is a sleeper
The front end of the Avalon TRD looks like an abomination.
This ain't your average mom's camry!
Kind of slow for 300hp no?
Well it’s a sub 6 second 0-60. What’s your minimum standard for quick?
@Sammy Jammy 5.8 seconds maybe? My 2002 nissan maxima with 4 speed automatic that came with 255hp 3.5 litre v6. That car did 7.0 seconds flat. So for 301hp seems kind of slow, especially with 8 speed automatic.
That's a lot of grunt put through the front wheels. Go RWD.
Toyota running outta coping options... still trying to stay in the game.
Yet, bravo to its designers for not coping Hyundai & Nissan.
Toyota is still way better than others
@@nikolanikola8543 indeed it is, as it copies other's innovations shamelessly.
@@TheHero76 You obviously know NOTHING about cars... NOTHING! Others copy Toyota... Toyota doesn't copy anyone else... Hybrids, hydrogen cars and VVT-i systems... Those are all very innovative inventions that you won't find in any crappy German or American car...
@@nikolanikola8543 that's funny... I'm sure you only used toyota since you started using a phone.
@@TheHero76 Little boy. You know nothing about cars, so let me teach you. Toyota started building hybrids cars before anyone, they started using VVT-i systems (which are still impressive) before anyone, and don't even get me started on the hydrogen engines... They PIONEERED that technology. Toyota is the most selling car for a reason, other copy Toyota, Toyota copies nobody... Now stick to your piece of shit German car while you wait for a tow truck!
Looks good, not fast enough though.
True but the handling is pretty good
Godless Toyota and the brakes
@@Mac10Daddy very true I think it's more of a track car than a pocket rocket
Plz coronavirus dont take john with u i need moar mr davis
Needs AWD and an HP bump. 301 HP is plenty but it needs to be an increase over the base car. It feels more like a marketing scheme than a performance model. Not saying its a bad car, it just doesn't seem TRD enough if you know what i mean.
301 doesn't even get you in the club now. the EcoBoost 2.3 has that
If the Toyota designers are reading this, please redesign the Avalon’s grill. Sweet Jesus what an eyesore. 🤦🏻♂️
John Davis is the best
These cars look a little silly and other than slightly better handling and braking, the performance gains are nill. I don't think they understand what Americans really want from a performance/sport sedan.
The front of the Avalon looks like gaping mouth!
To swallow all other sedans that get in its way😋
Bravo Toyota. Never thought I would say a Camry is cool or fast haha. Kind of reminds me of an older Acura TSX.
Looks way to boy racer to me.
That wing is hideous
Slow!!!unless your test wasn't properly timed...
osho ikekhai It was properly time but they threw a high power FWD on a track that still has rubber residue from other tires,
On the right hands this car is capable of a 14.6 sec
6.5 for a 300 hp car is not very good.
gladdy02 Front wheel drive and doesn't launch well, in addition to the fact it also has no grip because MotorWeek doesn't give a shit about their track condition you can clearly see residue from several hundred tires on the track LOL
@@JDMHaze haha I was think many other publications get around 5.8 to 6 flat.
gladdy02 Yes, MotorWeek has the worst 0 to 60 times for most vehicles
BOOMER CRUISER LMAOOOOOOOOO
This is a GREAT CAR. A lot of immature comments here.
To anyone curious the Camry gets a 0 to 60 around 5.7 and has always been under six seconds since 2007, MotorWeek can't launch For shit and their track is in terrible condition
Did they perform a burnout before launching? Would love to see footage of that if they did lol
so all of that ridiculous styling help performance not so much. I would be embarrassed driving that knowing it is a front wheel drive car. looks like a riced out Civic but "nicer"
Thomas New It’s a sports package like an M-package with BMW or S-line package with Audi’s. I think it looks pretty cool. One of the nicer new cars available atm
@@ggj1987 I agree it does look very nice. I just couldn't get over the platform I was driving.
I mean I would rather have a rear wheel drive sedan if I wanted something sporty
No manual no sale for me.
Solar Flare Then buy nothing but a Fiat 500 LOL
They need a manual option
Landon B no, You will take that automatic transmission and like it!!!😂😂
Keye Haze Ok :(
Landon B Sorry to speak so sternly but it hurts me more than it hurts you
A Honda Accord 2.0T is still quicker , around a second quicker to 60 I believe maybe a little bit less
I’ll take my cars wheels painted silver or polished as God intended. Those black wheels would look nice on a cargo trailer though.
The huge grille on the Avalon is hideous.
Beautiful car and a lot of HP to only do a zero to 60 in 6.5 seconds. So yea it would be a respectable car for a female.
Yeah, not very quick, especially for having 301hp but that 60-0 braking in less than 100ft is very impressive!
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix I don't get it dude, are you trying to be sarcastic or just confused?
@@jurzyjohner432 what the heck are you talking about? Maybe you're confused because you now have me confused. I said 0-60 was not very quick for a 301hp car but the stopping distance from 60-0 in 94 feet is insanely good. How many performance cars can stop from 60 in less than 100ft, let alone a family sedan. I dont see any sarcasm in mentioning actual test data, especially that 94ft stopping distance from 60mph.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Alright guy, you're mad at nothing, i just wanted to understand your confusing comment.
@@jurzyjohner432 negative sir, not mad at all. Wasn't trying to come off that way. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Just stating that the accele wasn't very impressive but the braking was very impressive.
Here’s an idea Toyota ..... camary +rwd+and that Toyota 5.7 truck engine🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
This a great car....... if this was made in the 2000s.....
This IS SAD... it woulda been nice if they had more HP... LIKE A SUPERCHARGER 375-400HP?? 350FT TQ?? THIS IS A FAIL!
The Kia Optima is much faster than both of these cars featured in this wonderful CZcams video.
Yet the long term reliability and resale value on these two far exceeds that of KIA.
There is absolutely no reason to put a spoiler on a Camry, car does 15’s in the quarter mile gtfoh. The only reason TRD should focus on the Camry is the nice interior they put in and to eliminate the god awful body roll and puny brakes that Camrys have always had. The color scheme they chose does not do this embarrassing ricer family sedan any favors either.
Avalon looks better.
Eh. It’s definitely cool looking but no upgraded engine just seems silly. It’s all bark and no bite.
Reminds me of the Lexus Fsport treatments of late. Just appearance upgrades no real performance upgrades. With the TRD exhaust, a cold air intake might really wake the 3.5 up.
why would you choose a dodge charger instead off those booring ass front drive pos machines
it is slow