Doctor Who 14x3: "Boom" | Reaction!
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- A Doctor Who episode being topical? Who'd 've guessed? on Season 14 Episode 3 of Doctor Who - Boom!
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02:40 - Reaction
18:20 - Discussion
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Fun fact : " The Skye boat song" was more than once played by the second Doctor Patrick Troughton on the recorder when he was thinking.
It's not a Moffat episode without the companion dying and then being brought back to life.
Was she dead?
One of the things that always annoyed me with Moffat.
She didn't die. She was dying.
@@LauraGS564 In the audio commentary they confirm that Moffat wanted her to be dead originally, but the others thought it was too dark.
A lot of Maffat's episodes were solved by 'Parent Power' (Empty Child/Doctor Dances, Closing Time, The Lie of the Land) so it's Moffat's go-to sometimes
But that wasn't it. The AI solved that by infiltrating it. He just said it was due to parent power, it wasn't
Ok but 2 of those episodes weren’t written by Moffat
22:14 I didn't read "Mummy got gathered up... so she can be in heaven, like an angel" as a 'Rapture' event. To me, it was simply that her mother had died young, and her father comforted her with this story of her having gone to join the angels.
Yeah. I tried to cut that from the reaction but I forgot I referenced it in the discussion. It certainly makes more sense than a rapture.
Vilanguard is where Jack got his gun. He mentioned it in the empty child two-parter.
The song the Doctor sings is the theme from the tv show "Outlander" which is a show you and your dad might like as it relates to history and time travel.
27:55 She first appeared in Wild Blue Yonder.
Loved this episode. It feels like I am back in my teens. For some reason Doctor Who episodes that take place in one location are always great.
“Hey,who turned out the lights?”
remember the song
there's always a twist at the end
this song is about her
nope you are thinking of OXYGEN
deep breath was Capaldis first episode
with Madame Vastra
Mrs Flood is a different character to the ones played by Susan Twist. The former is played by Anita Dobson (wife of Queen guitarist Brian May), who British fans of a certain age would instantly recognise as Angie Watts from EastEnders.
To its credit, a lot of the casting is very UK-centric, with the obvious exception of Jonathan Groff in an upcoming episode. It's one of those things that audiences will latch onto over here while be irrelevant to the US or Australia or wherever. A recent example is Barbara Flynn as Tecteun in Flux. Instantly, for me at least, she's the milkwoman in Open All Hours, Fitz's wife in Cracker and Peter Davison's colleague in A Very Peculiar Practice.
Digression aside, Mrs Flood is not the woman seen in this episode.
You talked about there being two possible solutions, one of them being for Mundi to surrender as suggested by the doctor. She explicitly said that she didn't have the authority to surrender and the guy who did would need proof, which is why the Doctor sent the AI dad to go find proof. The AI dad went one better and destroyed the algorithm, but that wasn't what the doctor sent him to do.
"Oh my god! It's topical." That's hilarious.
With only 2 rather than 4 actors having speaking parts for the Beatles saves money, it is The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) after all, a British public service broadcaster headquartered at Broadcasting House in London, England. Originally established in 1922 as the British Broadcasting Company.
Wikipedia:
"The Skye Boat Song" is a late 19th-century Scottish song adaptation of a Gaelic song composed c.1782 by William Ross, entitled Cuachag nan Craobh ("Cuckoo of the Tree").[1] In the original song, the composer laments to a cuckoo that his unrequited love, Lady Marion Ross, is rejecting him. The 19th century English lyrics instead evoked the journey of Prince Charles Edward Stuart ("Bonnie Prince Charlie") from Benbecula to the Isle of Skye as he evaded capture by government soldiers after his defeat at the Battle of Culloden in 1746.
I'm one of those who doesn't sit and speculate on everything. I just sit and wait to see what happens. The way I look at it is just sit down and enjoy it. Don't overthink it and get ticked off about things
Good advice.
Hear hear, it's entertainment, no exams to take later.
It was an incredibly Moffat episode. From the start, you've got the nerdy guy + confident woman pair (which is a famous Moffat self-insert), obscure Classic Who reference with the Skye Boat Song, technological afterlife, creepy thing that keeps repeating innocent-seeming words or phrases, the "Hey, who turned out the lights" moment when that one guy dies, annoying child where the kid they cast in the role was too old, Vilengard again, the companion being sassy and self-confident when she goes against the Doctor's wishes, the companion death fake out, "Where there's X there's hope," Ordained Anglican Marines, the Doctor being an atheist and a very sappy amor vincit omnia-ending. I was half-expecting River Song to show up and slap the Doctor off the landmine.
Overall it was a fine episode. Definitely on the good-side of the spectrum. I've got like three or four actual criticisms of it and like fifty nitpicks. It made me feel like I was safely back in 2014-2015 watching an above-average episode of series 8 or 9 with Capaldi and Coleman. I guess it'll have you starstruck if you've either never seen a Moffat episode or have had 2010's wiped from your memory. I'd give Listen Part 2 a solid 6 or 7 out of 10.
Sorry. Had to pause before the reaction. Only John and Paul wrote the songs? George Harrison - Something, Here Comes the Sun, While My Guitar Gently Weeps and Ringo wrote Octopus' Garden...Don't diss the boys
Dang it! I said that because people were correcting me last episode! I wanted all four there!
To be fair, at that point only John and Paul were writing the songs. Although George did write an early Instrumental called Cry for a Shadow whilst in Hamburg in 1961, his first song proper (Don't Bother Me) was released on With the Beatles, which in turn was released on the 22nd of November 1963; the day before Doctor Who debuted.
For his part, Ringo didn't receive a writing credit until late '65's What Goes On from Rubber Soul.
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I was going to point out that Doctor Who has frequently been political throughout it's history, but you realized that yourself during your summary,so well done. Oxygen is the name of the episode where they have to pay for oxygen. A strong episode, parts about the daughter bother me a little, "I'm in the middle of a battlefield. He's standing on a landmine. Monday says if he blows he's taking half the planet with him in which case I'm possibly seconds away from death. That girl's about to shoot Monday. Ooh, look! Pictures of antelope! Tee hee!" But that's a small quibble. Overall I liked this a lot
she is also
the next seasons companion
btw
Worst haiku I've ever seen. It's 5-7-5, not 4-8-3. Try:
Mundy's also the
Next season's companion
If you didn't know.
@@SunniestAutumn That's 5-6-5.
Mundy's also the
companion for season two
if you didn't know
Great Capaldi story...I mean Ncuti.
half the planet
I absolutely love this episode! I really do miss Steven Moffat. And if they're moaning and complaining about it being political, they should watch classic Who because they have a lot of those then.
That ending was awkward. A few people died? No problem. Let's celebrate the Doctor getting off the mine.
nope she is probably
the one who waits
I honestly wonder why Moffat always write children like... oblivious to everything. Is no one else bothered by that?
I know she's just a kid, but she should have SOME grasp of what being dead means, besides her faith, and people are shooting each other, puncting each other with cables and electricity and she goes "oh, that's where we saw the antelope"?? WHAT?
Also adults are sometimes like that, too. Mundy Flynn is a good character, she's well acted I'd say but not being aware of another person liking you, and making stupid decisions like shooting someone's arm while they're clearly stepping on a landmine?? She wanted the remains of that Anglican marine but her shooting his arm would trigger the landmine and, for sure, would destroy those remains, like...???
Still liked the episode, but that particular thing about children (seen in other Moffat episodes) and sometimes adults being written like just straight up DUMB people always bugs me.
There is an issue where the kids' roles Moffat writes tend to be aimed for young children, but because there are all these pesky laws regarding child labor and all, they can't have children aged 4-6 spend the entire day in costumes, so there's a disconnect where the way the child acts and the child looks don't fit in our brains.
Like, for example of how young children can be on screen, in Space Babies the titular Space Babies are not there most of the time. When they are in the scene they keep using a ton of camera tricks where they show their carriages from odd angles so you can't actually see the babies. Here you have an episode where the child is present for 70% of it, the child constantly chimes in and where trying to switch camera angles constantly to not show the child would be incredibly jarring. You need an actor who is allowed to be there, so you have to cast older.
@@SunniestAutumn Indeed. Besides, there was a Jehovah's Witness family living in the house behind mine, and - lovely family though they were - their kids were somewhat indoctrinated, tbh. The girl in this episode reminded me very much of their daughter at that age. Somewhat naive in her outlook, and somewhat younger than her years.
Does he write all children like this? Most of them are very switched on
@@SunniestAutumn Yes I understand and I somewhat agree, but children are NOT like this. Maybe 5 yo kids, or around that age, but that girl looks around 12, 13, they ARE more aware of things around that age... I feel like Moffat is always showing kids, and adults sometimes too, like complete idiots, just to make the Doctor look smarter LOL
more strange
than bad wolf in season one
torchwood in season two
vote for saxon in season 3 etc
I rather enjoyed this. It kind of proves my belief that Moffat is great at individual stories, bad at long story arcs. I've seen a lot of "best episode in 7 years" comments.
Which story arcs did you not like of his? I thought series 5 and the 12th's Doctor's character arc were handled really well.
@@hanonhold I basically hate all story arcs in NuWho, but I thought the Cracks and Hybrid arcs were particularly nonsensical.
I don’t get the hype for this sure. I didn’t care about mundy or her admirer. But sets amazing and its ok but it’s literally just the Doctor stuck on a landmine the entire episode… I I think its a 6/10. Don’t get the hype
Then go and don't watch it. Let people enjoy what they want. This was obviously a very good episode.
And nothing wrong with the doctor stuck on a landmine. Nothing wrong with that premise. What do you mean, it's just? What should it be in a bottle episode? Lol
I hated this episode and it was just boring it was a typical Moffat episode there was no villain, no one died except for that one guy at the beginning, the child was annoying, no stakes and i'm so tired of all this soap operish heart to heart i just want to see the Doctor do what he does best fight monsters and daleks and just get on with the story.
I also hated seeing the Doctor cry it takes away the alieness out of him.
The only good thing about this episode i will say is where finally off earth for a change and on an alien planet every episode is earth london england, earth london england, earth london england.
The Doctor has cried before. What an L take lol. And there doesn't need to be a villain if there's enough conflict. Gosh, these people are brainmelted by Marvel
@@LauraGS564This particular loser has posted more or less the same comment on every reaction to this episode he can find. Grade A weirdo behaviour.
@@LauraGS564To be fair he has now cried in half the stories he's been in. It's a bit overplayed. It seems all he does is either run away or cry
@LauraGS564 Only in NuWho but even then it was subtle Ncuti over does it abit once with Eccleston would had been enough none of the first 8 eight Doctors before them have ever cried I don't ever recall Tom Baker ever crying when standed on the landmine in the same position as Ncuti the Doctor crying is not what his character does and shouldn't he can have an emotion but they shouldn't show it too heavily because it makes his character boring and I disagree there should be a villain in every episode otherwise there's no stakes or drama.