Camouflage Infrared/IR Tests
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- čas přidán 5. 03. 2018
- Testing various camouflages under regular light and then infrared light to see how the camouflage appears.
Many camouflages that appear to work really well under conventional light, stick out horribly when viewed through infrared equipment or night-vision devices.
In this video I look at Flecktarn, Woodland 95 DPM, Multi-terrain-pattern/MTP, Strichtarn/Raindrop and some civilian camouflages.
The Czechoslovakian camouflage is the easy winner when it comes to IR camouflage considering it has a special IR layer printed underneath the main camouflage, I would say Flecktarn came a close second with it's pattern looking good to both the eye and infrared.
Also apologies for the low quality sound, I'm still trying to get to grips with a directional microphone.
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Nice tests, very informative and something i bet most people would never think of doing.
that Czechoslovakian camouflage is great, i didn't even know they could that.
Yeah I find it really funny that it's camo from the 60s as well and it works better than a lot of the modern stuff. My actual night vision monocular came yesterday, was testing it last night and it's incredibly effective, would be brilliant in some sort of SHTF situation to check for animals and people. Was able to watch people and animals with it in the dark without them realising I was there. I did take some photos and videos with it but sadly they came out quite blurred, got that video scheduled for this Sunday. When I use it more I'll use the video function more than the photo function, as it doesn't have a stabiliser, photos are very blurry unless you use it with a tripod, the videos are mostly okay however because of the framerate.
I'll have to sort out a red cap for my torch like you suggested, that way I can use a torch to navigate in the dark and then when I have a good position switch to the night vision.
I got the Nightfox 80R if you are interested in the model.
I've P.M you about a torch, just letting you know on here incase it goes to spam as it has a link in it.
I've had czechoslovakian camo clothes for years, but i didn't know that old communist uniform is any good, I am truely amazed!
Yeah they were really high tech for the time
Great series...cool cameras and lots of great info on camo equipment.
Cheers.
Impressed by the tschecheslovakian uniform. The east German camo was called " einstrich-keinstrich". Witch means one stripe, none stripe
FYI the tags generally suggest washing the uniforms that are IR treated without and washing liquid/ or concentrate. The chemicals rinse out the IR chemicals. Other treatments like fabric softener actually increase your visibility in IR
Ive always thought about this experiment since i was in the army, well done, very interesting. 👍
Very interesting video keep up the awesome work
Cheers.
what washing powder that you use when you wash your combats makes a difference - avoid things with a 'blue whitener' - I can remember being told this back in 1985 when I did my basic training - I remember the smocks & trousers were IRR too
hella interesting. learned something today. ty.
I have the Czech jacket and parka, the inner side you can make out a second pattern that your video brings out in IR. Cool
The US Army Gore Tex jackets and and pants reflect IR light better than glint tape.
I wish that Czech IR camo was available as a normal light pattern as well
It's basically pea dot camo.
Weaponsandstuff93 ah, thanks :)
Awesome
Hey Man, thanks For sharing this! It's a good job I wear about twelve camo patterns at once then isn't it haha, I've Only just got into mil surp and I've yet to collect one full set. I use it for stealth camping in the UK and To be honest people Have walked right past me in a mix of British DPM, French CCE and BTP / MC. that Czech jacket was incredible I know what I'm Searching for now. Atb.
Yeah that Czechoslovakian camo was way ahead of it's time
I just bought the czech m60 camo parka after watching this video. Im blown away that aws amazing how its completely different under IR, considering its age its even more impressive
Yeah it was made using two types of dye from what I understand, one that is very obvious on infrared cameras and the other that is seen by the human eye, most modern camos just try to use colours that have some IRR effects on the actual dye.
Have Czech camo jacket and the parka. For the unique rain pattern, nice heavy textile. On the inside you can make out another pattern, and your video makes this stand out with the infrared light . Pretty cool, thanks for display.
If you turn it inside out you can see the pattern printed from the inside.
I have one of the over coats.2 actually. I may water proof one.
Great video, I havent seen any IR camo tests yet and I'm sure there arent many so this really is helpful.
I own a czech jacket like that one too but I had no idea that it's got such an interesting secret to it.
Yeah very advanced for when it was made back in the 1960s.
do you have a link to buy Czechoslovakian camouflage ?
Nice camo and vid
Thanks.
British army DPM Gaiters and the NI Chest Rig also glows, I guess the goretex and the rubberized waterproof thing on the inside ruins it or something.
Ironic when it’s says “IRR” and still preforms poorly when it’s comes to being more or less neon as you said.
So natural fibers like cotton,wool and raylon absorb ir light amazing well. Polyester and nylon are brutal and also much more reflective in harsh sunlight during daytime. Cotton and wool are where it's at unless it's pouring rain
Just out of curiosity, have you tried anything in A-TACS camo?
I can't remember where I saw it but I remember reading something about experienced Czechoslovak soldiers washing their camo in a certain chemical that made the IR pattern more visible in all conditions. If anyone has any knowledge on this please let me know!
I love your videos it's real fun to watch. Do you know if the IR coating will wear off after many washes? I was told they do wear off and also told they will stay on forever as long as you don't starch the uniform or use laundry detergent that contains optical brighteners when washing the uniform.
I've found on all mine it never comes off but yeah using certain detergents can cause it to get bleached out.
I have a Czechoslovakian parka with the rain drop pattern...now i wanna see if it has that pattern lol
Probably does.
I've seen in other videos UCP apparently performed excellently under IR conditions. Perhaps the militaries would fare well if they used a pixel pattern for the IR layers of their uniforms.
Yeah that's why they picked it but it would have been the same as CADPAT and MARPAT as far as I know, both of which are better patterns than UCP.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 I meant if modern militaries used Multicam in the visual spectrum and UCP in the IR spectrum in a dual function fashion much like the Czechoslovakian innovation.
There are few available IR tests on youtube, but from what I saw UCP outperformed MARPAT while CADPAT is unavailable to test because of its ban from surplussing.
What year of manufacture were the individual flecktarn garments made in?
Without checking can't tell you, but I think my Flecktarn stuff is dated from the 1990s to early 2000s depending on the item.
What about bdu woodland or the desert Storm night camo?
I don't have either of those.
Weaponsandstuff93 Damn :(
what is ypur opinion on the ATACS-AU and ATACS-FG?
in my oppinion, those are easily the best cammos because they can blend almost everywhere
I've not seen anything super impressive with them that's not been company bullshots, don't get me wrong it looks fine but they don't seem to have a good Macro pattern, meaning at a distance the human shape will be obvious.
Have you ever considered buying the flecktarn variant, tropentarn?
I've seen it but don't have much use for it, I have British desert DPM trousers which I really like, miltec (I think) do a multicam flecktarn called aridfleck but currently Germany is trialling a multicam flecktarn, so once that becomes available on the surplus market I may get that.
there are color brighteners in the white objects , we should take a handheld black light when shopping ?...God bless...doug
If going surplus shopping certainly, you will notice if some of the camo has been "spoiled" by brighteners in washing powders etc.
Link to buying the same Czechoslovakian camouflage you have ?
I have one extra at home, do yoi want to buy?
Could ypu try out the vz. 95 pattern??
Sadly I don't have any
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What camera are you using for the infrared? I’ve always wanted one and I don’t know how much they cost.
This was just a generic Chinese camcorder I found on Amazon for about £100, I've since bought an actual IR nightvision device, bear in mind a camera like this is great for seeing in pitch black rooms indoors, but can't see very far outside.
consider to re run all this in complete darkness. IR cameras and NVGs are capable to get visible light
my hunting camo does not glow at all, and actually glows less than my flektarn pants. then again, the hunting camo is cotton, and the flek pants ate cotton/poly blend.
The best cammo in infrared have your red blanket used as a background.
Could you test the urban camo stuff, that stuff you can buy online.
The grey version of the red camo I have?
I may get some at some point.
Weaponsandstuff93 Yup, igot a full set and i would like to know if they work.
In theory they should work fine in quarries and concrete environments, they won't work very well elsewhere, that was the reason that American UCP camo was discontinued really quickly, it barely worked anywhere.
Weaponsandstuff93 Yeah, it also rarely works in german urban environment.
But maybe it could work when the camo is dust covered XD
@@Weaponsandstuff93 From what I understand, UCP actually worked quite well under IR light/NVGs and was the reason why the US Army chose it without testing it against the other patterns in the then ongoing camo trials. Some genius thought it more important that UCP worked well under IR light and really didn't care much about how well it worked in sunlight. But I did see a video a while back where someone tested UCP out in the woods (I think it was in the woods) and it actually worked much better than I thought it would.
Chalk another up for the Czechs!
The Czech one really is awesome. What is it called? And where can i get it? I want to look at it through IR, so i cant wait to test it all out.
IMX 335 should bring some really great IR footage with a 1 watt 940nm LED adjustable beam flashlight. My colored green and brown curtains look like they are plain white with the IR light in the dark.
Greetings,
Jeff
It’s the vz.60 Czechoslovak camo, try and find it in store where you live
Damnit decond
Second I can't even spell
Why does IR matter when Thermal is used by modern military? Educate me please.
NV is still a common threat so better than not having any...
Ive seen some cloaks for thermal devices recently, so i guess thats something soldiers will get issued in the future too.
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