How South Africa Became a Failed State
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South Africa grapples with a crisis in politics, economics, infrastructure, and social issues marked by corruption and economic challenges. As the 2024 election approaches, the question looms: can the situation improve?
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0:00 Intro
0:48 Politics
3:51 Economics
5:15 Infrastructure
8:08 Social Issues
9:14 What's Next
11:13 Sponsor
The old saying goes, "The tree votes for the axe, because it is also made out of wood."
in the case of south africa, the Cape is governed by the opposition & it functions like what you'd find in europe..
however, most black south africans would rather live in squalor & exploitation from their ANC leaders than vote for a white person
As a young African, two years ago I made a decision to join politics and what I discovered was truly very depressing. I realized that the crisis of leadership in Africa was more cultural and pervasive than I thought, basically as African societies we vote for bad leadership because essentially the society is corrupt and lacks fundamental value systems that are necessary to create good leadership. So the leaders are simply of the same cloth from which society is made of. We are cut from the same tree. Poverty, dearth of leadership seems so pronounced in black societies than anywhere else, I suspect it has a lot to do with sub-cultures that foster these cycles.
@@kabelontitsane4943 yet these same communities delivered the likes of Mandela, Mbeki, Kagame and others. With education & opportunity i believe it is possible
@lm_b5080 The issue is we don't seem to produce good leaders in enough numbers to make a change.
@@kabelontitsane4943 i met many incredible young african leaders while studying at UCT. i wonder where they all end up at..
Imagine looking over at Zimbabwe’s last thirty years and taking that as a model.
Imagine being white thinking black folks gonna tolerate them being amongst them in the motherland
Resentful black nationalist terrorists took over both countries (Rhodesia and old South Africa) with the help of the world, and now people are surprised it has gone to complete shit?
So which country is worse ? South Africa ? Or the so called apartheid state Israel ?
Have you been to Zimbabwe lately? You'll be surprised how much the country has prosper. Many white holiday makers post positive stories about Zimbabwe.
@@hubreydavid7864idk man i have two very close friends from there and while things are better they aren’t a model to look towards
Can't believe they had a space program and nukes
The key word there is "had"
at least they’ve had those unlike canada
It used to be the richest country in Africa. Best health care too. All destroyed
When did it have the best health care system?
Best health care for Whites only.
i am SO SORRY to say this but it was rich under the white mans apartide
@@carolinebyrne9392yes because white people build. Black destroy
@@carolinebyrne9392sad but true
The definition of insanity is voting for the same party over and over and expecting different results each time.
She left out context. Old people are overrepresented on the ballot, and they are the ones voting because of how ANC saved them from apartheid. The youth is scattered, either not voting, voting for small parties or the EFF which targets students in universities.
I know I'm British and we have the same problem 🫣
Meanwhile in America, we vote for the same two parties over and over. We don't even get the choice of another one because of how the system is set up. Instead we have factions within these two.
every nation rn is guilty of that. The issue right now we are seeing across the world is the end of the old generation grip on power. They Brought us into the 21st century but they were a stop gap for where we needed to be. They were all rhetoric until it became too inconvenient, and now it is just easier and better for their cause to pull us back or break it in general. We need actual doers, ppl who actually want to uphold the ideal that strive toward but at the same time we need to beat the ppl who are ok with holding onto the old ways so badly that they want to take us back.
The fight against conservatives that turned into regressionists (or even worsts fascists) and understanding the failure of old school liberals who were the compromise to progressives. That is the fight we are globally having rn.
If you want to look at South Africa (as that is lens of this video) that party sold the indigenous africans the dream of right to self determination, they had the ideals and even a plan, but ultimately they needed to not only educate the ppl, build an economic structure that benefitted them locally and on a global scale but also wrestle the constant fight against old regime that still maintained influence and monetary power. And eventually they hit a wall. It is time for new blood to come in, the new generation but also integrate white afrikans that have lived alongside indigenous ppl that actually want to help and not just benefit the old school segregationists that will take advantage of indigenous ppl again. It is a balancing act. it's about incremental change but I could be off base there.
Turkey be like 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love how it went from "Is south africa a failed state?" to "How South Africa Became a Failed State"
Yes and interfering with Israeli politics..
Noticed that too
@carolwhelan5717, Israel interfered with our politics too so call it back pay
Western media doubling down on SA for its isreal case.
@@MusehanaHwhile their economy is struggling?
I am a young African who aspired to join politics some two years back. What I observed and learned was disheartening. I had to admit to myself that for some odd reason, African societies lack basic value systems that make good leaders. African societies make it possible, by both lack and design, that bad leadership proliferates more than good one. Basically African leaders are a sample of its own society, inept, corrupt and lacking basic vision for collective good.
You should head to Israel then, they speak highly of Black ppl…
@BTL_LTW It's not about picking sides, it's an observation I have of my own society and it's ineptitude. In my own country my peers and I are beginning to talk about these issues and it's good because atleast instead of petty victim politics that portrays Africa a a victim of prejudice and neocolonialsim we see ourselves in our true colors.
@@kabelontitsane4943 And what color is that? What do you propose? Take your sentiment to its logical conclusion. Do you think the “neocolonialism isn’t the reason why Africa or said country is poor” narrative is something new? Some enlightened thought from “free thinkers”? Try reading up on your own history, that narrative is as old as colonialism itself, and is of course proposed and encouraged by the very people who benefit from colonialism the most… This is one of the issues with African education prioritizing STEM and having little to no emphasis on history or social sciences - it results in the “why” being defined by the people with incentives to control you.
@BTL_LTW There is a tendency by contemporary African political opinion makers especially with a Pan African ideological leanings that all or a majority of African problems can be summed up in one word, Colonialism. It's a highly ignorant view that whitewashes African history, glamorizing it to shore up arguments that Africa was led to fail. I implore you to read, not a romanticized history of African Politics, go to the numbers, the policies and their results. We talk of men like Kwameh Nkrumah, Patrice Lumumba, Houphouet Boigny, Modibo Keita and others with a poetic reverence as if they were some geniuses who were robbed of a vision they had for Africa. For the most part, if you follow their politics, their policies and their effects, these men were mostly grossly incompetent and inept. Few men had their hearts in the right place except they were still incompetent anyway, people like Julius Nyerere. Some capable leaders who did relatively good were Seretse Khama of Botswana. There is a tendency in people to glamorize the past more than the present, that's what most Africans have done with their history.
But to Africa's credit, during the 50s and 60s decades of independence the concept of modern states was largely foreign, we were expected to do so much with very little. The Colonial masters did not rule Africans to develop Africans. But we were no more disadvantaged at independence than other countries with similar socio-economic problems like Singapore, Malaysia, Korea and others.
A people that for centuries were denied the time and opportunity to evolve
"True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
"The electricity system is in a shocking state." --Not sure if that was a pun. LOL
😂it is unable to create a shock... there is no current !!!...hahaha !
-) vote for the same party for more than 20 years
-) give up on democracy
Nailed it
Basically Russia
Well singapore like to disagree
@@okman9684Singapore is widely seen as a nondemocratic one party state
Give up on democracy ?.
Similar situation here in wales with Labour government. 😢
Hitting the same downward spiral as Zimbabwe.
This makes me both sad and infuriated. This country has a lot of potential but it is ruined by corrupt politicians
No, it's the people's fault, they vote for them, corruption doesn't go away on it's own
South Africa is a perfect example of what corruption can do to a country blessed with natural resources.
How are you any better? Your Elite made you steal wealth from China, India , America's , Africa and you still freeze in the winter and rising inflation you can barely feed yourself!
Let's call it what it is--sin.
@@JM-gu3tx It's sad what's happening in South Africa. I don't care how you look at it.
Thank to american zionist revisionist ultra-right plutocrats masters of the world economy......
Russia without snow.
Corruption and incompetence
Yes, SA has a history of corruption, both the NP & ANC were corrupt.
Funny how corruption and incompetence just seems to follow black majorities around.
They're competent enough to understand that efficient governance is a death sentence for corruption.
Not incompetence. By design. The level of state capture on every infrastructure including energy is impossible without government help.
Add fascism to the mix :D
They have a de facto dictatorship like in Singapore, out of people not knowing alternatives well + in South African case, acqual racism
I am South African. It is a mess. Since 1994 until now, nothing has improved.
Have you considered leaving the country? If so, where would you go? I've heard from ethnic Europeans, Chinese and Indians who once lived there, they say the racism from black South Africans is becoming institutionalized and that minorities are constantly targeted with violent crime. Obviously not all black South Africans are racist. But with a party like the EFF openly spouting genocidal hatred, it seems like there's a significant minority of black South Africans that are extremely racist.
Lol thats a fn lie! Nothing has improved???
@@silindilengwane I'm really interested in hearing your take. What has improved? What has stayed the same? What has gotten worse?
With so many examples of black government around you, if you expected improvement under a black government, you were stupid. I got out in 1991. Reality is reality.
@@grasonicus This is a stupid comment. You're obviously uneducated. Aside from South Africa, there are four other upper middle income countries in Sub-Saharan Africa. That puts them on par with a bunch of Eastern and South-Eastern European countries. It would also put them on par with China and ahead of many South-East Asian countries. In fact, most of Sub-Saharan Africa is middle income. It's typically in central Africa that countries are poorly run and third world. But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your racist boomer tirade BS.
*Pray for South African people NOT the government love from Japan.*
No, pray for Japan...your own economy is in free fall
@@MusehanaH It's not in free fall.
free the cape it is time for south africa to break up
@@MusehanaHits deffinitly not on free fall, it is decreasing mostly because of the demographic crisis, thats raw GDP, which is why japan is not desperatly releasing economic packages but demographic estimulous.
So it is a healthy normal and good economy, just not a healthy demographics
Thank you Japan and God bless you. There are sooo many of us that cant even eat 1 meal a day.
And out of all these corrupt people implicated and charged, NON of them has been jailed
Now the criminal in chief who dodged his day in court for years want's another bite of the cherry?. No end in sight for this 💩show!.
Even the resources to jail have been destroyed and become non-available. God save the country.
Who's going to arrest them , the minister of police is in on it
….and non ever will be jailed. This is bl4ck justice. These 4ssh0les are comrades!
Let me just correct you on something. Its not that Ramaphosa have "struggled to fix" or "failed to correct". Ramaphosa has done nothing. In order to "struggle and fail", one has to make an effort. He hasnt. If anything, he doubles down on all the policies that got us in this mess in the first place.
Also, the rail network didnt just breakdown to a lack of maintenance. Rail infrastructure is actively being stolen and carried away, and the government does nothing about it.
We normally don't agree with the Dutch settlers in our country but here we are in full agreement.
The ANC must not keep getting voted in , again and again .
@@cheekoandtheman Agreed. At this point, a totally disfunctional coalition government that constantly bicker among theselves and that doesnt het anything done is still preferable to a functional government actively working towards making things worse.
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105" We normally don't agree with Dutch settlers" instead of actually cooperating you guys are still dividing yourselves like some 3rd world nation, look around you in Africa, that factionalism only brings war, unrest and ultimately failed states.
Did u mention it’s because of Western puppets? Com’mon, S.Africa just joined the CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY against Euro countries. You colonizers contracts state any proceeds cannot be used for education nor infrastructure. All puppets are being Coupd. S.Africa is now a member of B.R.I.C.S
Voting Malema into government will greatly accelerate the end for South Africa.
Just returned from 2 weeks in south Africa. The wealth disparity there is staggering. Hard to understand how Sandton and places in Capetown have more luxury cars/ houses than I have seen in Miami, while there is rampant poverty and load shedding power outs. I talked to a white restaurant owner in Camp beach and a black tour guide in Soweto. both have vastly different perceptions on the cause of South Africa's current crises
Hi, please elaborate.
You might also want to mention that one of South Africa's provinces - the Western Cape is seeking independence. This is also the Democratic Alliance's largest voting block.
You are sounding like Israel...
“The Western Cape” is not seeking independence. Some people in the Western Cape dislike the ANC enough to say they want the Western Cape to be independent. Those are very different things.
@@joshuaswart8211 They are different, but saying that you want to do it means you aren't that far off actually doing it.
is it white?
@@joshuaswart8211 hear, hear.
Even in a relatively politically stable country like my own, I get growingly concerned when the ruling party, irrespective of the leader and supposed values, holds power for long. Complacency in maintaining the country, complacency towards the populace it governs, an increase in dodgy and corrupt dealings almost always follows. Such a shame so many in SA don't believe they have a viable alternative, sadly the outlook seems rather grim.
in SA the Cape is governed by the opposition & it functions almost on par with parts of europe..
however, most black south africans would rather live in squalor & exploitation from their ANC leaders than vote for a white person
mandela should still be rotting in prison
@@BH-gh6qm Why? What's wrong with him compared to Zuma?
Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often for the same reason
“Such a shame so many in SA don't believe they have a viable alternative…” What's this 'viable alternative?'
I'm South African and 24 and only 8000 people in my age group are voting this year. Shit is bad.
Soon SA will be like Zimbabwe- The insanity of this situation is impossible to comprehend
Excellent report. Very accurate.
Our children's futures have been robbed by these greedy politicians 😢
Are you voting for the ANC this election?
This is democracy in a Stone Age society. Zimbabwe #2.
Tell that to those people keep voting for the same party.
Statistically better than under vvhite rule. 😂
@@alexmintz7786 Totally.
The failure of government at national and local level is being felt across the country, as South Africans grapple with a 'poly-crisis' of poorly maintained or collapsing infrastructure and public services. Perhaps the most severe effect is on unemployment, which is among the highest in the world.
I get that but “failed state” is literally the biggest over exaggeration I’ve ever heard
I remember when that term only referred to countries like South Sudan
How is unemployment measured?
Here in Argentina the government counts people working in the black market/unregistered workers as people having a job.
So unemployment is very low. Being the achievement of the last government....
Fyi the black market/unregistered workers account for more than 40% of Argentina GDP.
@@JLZcochewait so in Argentina criminals are technically employed
@@mnm5165yes of course
@@mnm5165 In america they call the "employed criminals" government officials.
I'm an Asian from a southest asia country and many people in my country have a same thought that "without white people, south africa is nothing " 😂
Indonesianz
@@leo-messi61 no man, I'm Vietnamese
Without us EVERYWHERE is *NOTHING*
While no one is in favor of the apartheid imposed by the previous White government , it’s true that as far as economic development and growth is concerned, Whites in power did a better job at running the country.
There are blacks thinking this way too.
Corruption is the driver of our failing state, one of the passengers is poverty and the child of poverty is crime.
No, the child of crime is poverty.
Won consecutive six elections Explains everything !!
No peaceful change in governing party = Doesn't meet the normal definition of a democracy (yet)
the party that brought the country to ruins will surely bring prosperity to the country. surely
Vote the same party for 30 years: democracy isn't working!!
He wants to pull a Putin
Let's think about this..if apartheid was better why do the older blacks still vote for the ANC? 😀
I don’t understand how people can still elect the same party that is almost purposely harming them
That’s been the case for the past 14 years in the uk
@@mohammedhussain6749 that to
They "ended" apartheid
@@sauce6835 ok but they’re still not very good at governing
Because they keep giving them handouts. The ANC has a client-patron relationship with it's electoral base. So long as it keeps promising to 'look out for black interests' when in power, give handouts to them the state can't afford, or promises to carry out land expropriation (government sanctioned theft) of white property in the name of racial equality, (black) people will still continue to vote for the ANC. Until there is nothing left to suck the life out of, and the state collapses.
South Africa accuses Israel in the International Court:
South Africa is a failed state
My words exactly
This is the beginning of US n West retaliation 😂
I couldn't said it better ,some people's heads are full of dough
😂😂😂 You don't need to be biased towards Western interests to report that our country is a failed state. You just need to look at the statistics and walk around in the cities.
Is this what South Africa is getting for manning a law suit against the State of Israel at the Hague?
It is often said one that go against Israel ends up with a whip rush.
But what is mostly discussed here is related to South African dark times whose remnants still troubles the current Republic of South Africa 🇿🇦
As always, victimisation instead of taking accountability. There are plenty of videos on CZcams talking about the downfall of South Africa before that law suit was made. In fact, this channel made a video 10 months ago about this topic which proves your theory is complete nonsense.
Instead, you're just inventing conspiracy theories to deflect the fact that South Africa is a complete mess of a country and you can't adress any issue pointed out by the video.
I know that seeing how sucessful Israelis are at running a country creates some jealousy in the global south, especially in countries with an incompetent and corrupt leadership like South Africa, but they have nothing to do with the downward spiral of South Africa.
Don't ever fall in love with a political party: Don't be afraid to show them the door if they failed to deliver.
not even trumps or poilievres party?
Sad that a nation blessed with one of the best geographic locations is doing so poorly, on location alone it should be capable of far more than its current situation.
Very sad 😢
Only people sad about South Africa is colonialists and their former colonial managers... South Africa is defying the West... that’s why this video was published
Usual suspects cant let that happen
We are being Israeled...
It is not that blessed with geography, it is far from many major markets and it controls a trade route which has not been important in over a 100 years
Always enjoyed tldr and your new hires are just another improvement upon an already great channel. Really enjoy her delivery in particular. Very clear and calm. Hope she stays on for a long time
They keep voting for the same party cause it gives them these petty grants every month...but what these people are failing to understand is that a functioning state lead by an adequate government creates jobs and opportunities for people to sustain themselves while also suppressing unemployment throughout the country
If South Africa votes in the ANC AGAIN , it will probably mean that they will never learn
I'd rather stay with ANC than go with the EFF and the DA tbh.
Looks like you want to go down the road of Zimbabwe @@neocell710
@@neocell710I'm not familiar with SA politics, can you explain why you would go with ANC again despite their record?
@@neocell710 WHY NOT DA? EFF I fully understand but just look at the comparison between Joburg and Cape Town.
@@neocell710wow that’s crazy, surely ANC would be the worst possible option, they have literally ruined your country. The ANC that took over after apartheid and showed great promise under Mandela is clearly not the same one it is today. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. I would encourage you to convince your friends and family to vote for anyone but the ANC.
My sympathy is limited if the people still plan on voting ANC
As long as they don't vote for a pro apartheid party
The majority can't stand the idea of being "ruled" by a white man again, whether he has everyone's interests at heart or not.
They dont think there are any good parties.
@@Blonk.There is no excuses, if they can't find a party to trust then they should make their own, if El Salvador did it, and Argentina did it why South Africa shouldn't *DO* *IT* ?
The ANC keeps blaming Indians and whites, they say they will fight against them, so they keep getting elected, the only party now taking the wind from their sails is the commie party that wants to kill all white and Indian people
I have a couple of family living in South Africa still and I'm really worried for them. My family got out in '96 because even with the optimism of the "strongest economy in Africa" my parents knew we had a better life in Canada.
bizarrely in-depth and technical for a channel named TLDR news, but i love it
South Africa's ANC reminds me of the India's INC government. Both lead the countries to independence, and both were horrifically corrupt to there core, No matter what happens until the ANC is removed from power and needs to remove it's corruption South Africa has no chance. Since for India almost no development had occurred during the 20 year reign of the INC
After the prominent members they were filled with power hungry and incompetent ppl
Just like Mexico too. The PRI was in power for over 70 YEARS until 2000.
Mexico has its problems but has been on an upward trajectory in many areas. Their current President, AMLO, is popular and has been far better than his PRI predecessors
Yeah I wish BJP would have since 1947 I believe we would have Far ahead of China, Lost 60 yrs after getting independence from 1500 yrs of oppression & loot
@@Indian_Rajput south Africa and was capitalist while Inc in India is hell bent socialist which kept india poor till 50 years.
@@pipipupu5104ppl forget Manmohan Singh was also Inc
The start of South Africa's failure can be traced directly back to the zuma era, since then it has only gotten worse due to the sheer amount of damage he inflicted and the anc's unwillingness to take the necessary steps to fix it until it became to late. FYI Kwazulu Natal (KZN) the assassination and murder capital just so happens to be zuma's stronghold where the majority love him, think about that.
No even before that with Mbeki and the arms deal in 1999. Probably even before that too since Mbeki once mentioned that the day Mandela was released from prison, members of the ANC where approached by certain parties to take on arms deals. If this is true (and I believe it is, because Mbeki mentioned this long before any corruption investigations started), then the South Africa of 1994 was founded on corruption and the fox was let loose in the hen house back then.
@davidryke113 read "Rogues Gallery". Corruption has been part of SA since van Riebeek set foot in the Cape
@@roronoazorro9509 Actually even before that, they were just more open about it and stabed you in the belly in front of the whole tribe. Shaka would tell you if he were still around.
the start of the failure was 1994.
@jacobmatthews7524 GDP, GDP Per capita, and GDP PPP are all up compared to 94. The murder rate is down, too, while literacy rates are up. Access to basic services, like running water, sewage, and refuse removal, has also been expanded. Especially to black communities. South Africa was a failed state for non-whites before 94. Failure does not start then.
Thank you this was a very well presented document on the situation in South Africa.
6:12 this is in fact incorrect, if the electricity was in a shocking state, the homes would have power 🙃
The new presenter seems really good, she speaks very clearly.
I found out really hard to pay attention while riding my bike, very dead pan tone... I'm sure she'll warm up and relax after a few more runs😅
@@ABombs1I thought British people's way of speaking are just naturally soft?
Ye not a favorite of her voice to be honest. Sounds like someone reading a script
@@momytik exactly
Eh - that's how news reading is done - you would prefer her to improv the whole thing? Have you never seen the news??@@pascalwatteel2095
It's ironic how in South Africa people keep voting the same party and expect a different result. It's not even close. Either their voting system is corrupt as well or the majority of people just doesn't understand how democracy works. Probably the latter considering the sympathy towards dictators and the openly racist stance of some people. As a german, it's sad to see that most humans only learn the hard way, instead of learning from the mistakes that other countries made in the past.
My German friend, think about this logically. Put yourself in the shoes of the majority...If they were better off under apartheid why are they still voting for the ANC?
Maybe because they are better off now. Do you know that 66% of black SAs didn't have electricity under apartheid and now 80% do. Do you know that more have access to water and educational facilities than before? This is a fact and I am not an ANC supporter.
@katlegomoatshe1312 mate he didn't say they were better off under apartheid........continually supporting a corrupt party because of something they did almost 40 years ago isn't how a democracy is supposed to work lol.
@@katlegomoatshe1312hahah that's funny. You think things are better 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@katlegomoatshe1312Bro we aren't nca man. Read the stats our people don't have toilets, plumbing, water nothing. Please tell me where you got your statistics?
@@tnickknight Please give the stats for access to electricity, water and education for blacks under apartheid and now.
Kindly show me the number of people in the middle class under apartheid and now.
Show me how many black graduates we have now versus apartheid....
I don't usually get upset when watching the news, but holy shit South Africa is going up in smoke and this is not ok.
I'm kind of sensing a trend of countries hosting a FIFA World Cup right before everything goes to hell.
The EFF's planned policies worked so well in Zimbabwe.
Exactly. So let's combine the success of the ANCs kleptocracy with EFFs communism.
Rhodesia*
That's a lie. Comment appropriately responded to by a Zimbabwean in Zimbabwe. What EFF policies worked in Zimbabwe?
@@alextafireyi441r/wooooosh
@@alextafireyi441it was sarcastic bruv. You really are from Zim my guy 😂
SA was always the economic titan on the continent, long before 1994. Most of its industries and infrastructure was built by the old government. As for economic growth, 3% is shockingly poor when you consider they are a 3rd nation and the amount of goodwill and investment they saw post 1994. The previous government achieved 1.5% annual growth despite international sanctions and higher levels of growth prior to sanctions. Funny you omitted that.
Corruption is theft which is sin which has eternal consequences if not stopped and repented.
This explains the publicity of the case against Israel...
I would like to offer my condolences to Georgina, for having to say out loud the dead joke of the shocking state of power grids. :D
Nice to have a new voice, keep up the good work!
South Africa has so much potential. The most developed nation in entire africa cant believe what just happened.
Isn't the most developed Mauritius?
@@questionmaker5666actually south africa was for long time
I can. Whites lost power and many were kicked out. They were bound to destroy the nation. Look at Zimbabwe, look at guinea bissau. Look at the unlimited examples of former rich colonies getting destroyed when the indigenous populations take charge.
The trading routes have changed a lot, but that doesn't explain everything.
@@zakhapiell4142 I guess it's far easier to handle the issues of a small nation. Island nations often have a high HDI.
I own a property in SA. Worked there for 5 years also.
It's incredible how economy went from bad to worst.
Corruption, nepotism, stupidity...
ANC destroyed the country.
South Africa 🇿🇦 is heading straight towards doom and destruction but instead of solving it's own problems it is more concerned about dragging Israel 🇮🇱 to the International Criminal Court and that too on false accusations just for fun and to draw it's citizens attention away from all these problems! Extremely shameful!
lol you people are absolutely absurd and shameless. South Africa is doing just fine and Israel has never been an ally of South Africa
@roro-on-1463 Are you blind or you don't want to accept the reality?! This video showed what a complete mess South Africa 🇿🇦 has become, and you're saying it's doing fine?! It's actually you who's absurd and shameless, plus if Israel 🇮🇱 has never been an ally of South Africa 🇿🇦 than even South Africa 🇿🇦 has also never been an ally to Israel 🇮🇱!
@@roro-on-1463 I live in South Africa, and you are talking bollocks
@@user-ff2nk1po8g perception is reality…I bet you’re not a native black African
It is really worth reading De Ruyter's book 'Truth to Power: My Three Years Inside Eskom'. He describes all these issues.
True. But De Ruyter is also an idiot who thought the solution to solve his problems as CEO was to hire ex-apartheid era white National party intelligent officers to spy on ANC govt officials and run interference for him. That was an absolute bell end move. Hès correct obviously about the corruption and systemic issues with the ANC but his solution was so counterproductive and tbh historically/racially and politically tactless that he also deserves the ridicule and criticisms he has received especially from Black South Africans. Google the Carte blanche documentary about Eskom. South African news program.
Did u mention it’s because of Western puppets? Com’mon, S.Africa just joined the CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY against Euro countries. You colonizers contracts state any proceeds cannot be used for education nor infrastructure. All puppets are being Coupd. S.Africa is now a member of B.R.I.C.S
Yes good book, please also read the book apartheid guns and butter. Corruption is a SA disease, both the Nats and the ANC were corrupt...
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Thank you for this. Just bought it today at the bookstore due to your recommendation and it’s incredibly enlightening. Thanks!
It’s really nice to have a new voice on your channel. Please more videos presented by her. Keep up the good and consistent work. Greetings from Italy!
south african here...watching this video without power and water from yesterday...and i live in a developed area
I'm a South African and I appreciate when people from the outside what we can't say inside without being called racist - still the favourite line that starts where facts and logic end
even when you try and help them you're a racist (ummm no ...that would be the white-hater). its exhausting.
Exactly this... the country is failing cause they recruit on colour and ideology rather that competence
I lived in South Africa at the time when Nelson Mandela was president. I think he'd be appalled by what's happening to the country, and especially how close the RSA government is to Vladimir Putin.
@@VladTaushanov I need to just correct you on one issue - Mandela was equally close to Russia, Cuba, Libya and Iran. This is nothing new. People simply now realise the emperor (ANC) has always been naked.
@@kobusvanstaden3747 one thing I have been noticing a lot of white women marry outside their race to Black guys why is that happening and would that reduce the white population.?
Georgina’s awesome and so articulate. Thank you for describing RSA so well.
She seems to copy the other guys speaking styles exactly 😅
THEY SHOULD BE CAREFUL.....THIS HAS BEEN DONE TO UNDERMINE THEM FOR BRINGING ISRAEL TO COURT FOR GENOCIDE......ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE MORE RADICAL GROUPS TAKE POWER IN SOUTH AFRICA E.F.F WILL BE SEEN REASONABLE IN COMING YEARS WHEN REAL RADICALS EMERGE......
@@paraic9163True but it works right?
@@paraic9163 Probably just reading a script written by the same team, which is fair enough!
@@scott4361 not just that though, it's the cadence and timing and speaking style. It's as if she's his little sister or something .Guess it makes sense when she's probably been listening to them everyday.
That zuma guy is a disgrace 💀
This video makes it seem like SA is already gone. Have you visited Cape Town recently? What a city. People don’t know what they have there. Incredible place.
Living there and being a tourist are two completely separate things. I've been both there.
Have you tried turning the country off and on again?
Yep. She covered the black outs.
@@Fred-rv2tu lol
Everyday my friend, everyday 🤣
Who would've thought that a totalitarian state would not flourish.
From the union until 1994.
This just shows that they were never able to look after themselves they needed help
No words on the pure racism of this regime
An ANC-EFF coalition would signify the downfall of South Africa. The Western Cape might declare its independence, and any attempt by the central government to intervene could result in a bloody civil war.
An independent Western Cape might be the only chance to preserve a modicum of a prosperous South Africa.
Independence of WC is a low probability but more importantly reinforces the cultural divide between WC and the rest of ANC controlled provinces. But play out, if independence is declared and held...central govt funding immediately stops, new infrastructure requirements for energy, home affairs, etc needed, more housing demand for inevitable immigration to WC, new police force and army, trade deals need to be struck (think Brexit)...so almost immediately there needs to be huge injection of cash just to get the govt up and running. Two sources: Tax and borrowing. not great options esp the latter if borrowing is written off by country lender but at cost that bites you in the butt down the line.
My view: rally the younger voters at university to get out an vote, make meaningful changes in WC for poorer communities (get rid of the townships in CT for example and build proper homes, improve education and health facilities or at least have an executable plan for it) to show intent for rest of country, tax wealth on the richest 15% to fund these changes and have a zero policy of corruption (yes WC has corruption too). Set the example of what is possible for the rest of the country.
Modicum of APARTHEID...
@@rj41975 Instituting socialism in the WC will just drag it down to the level of the the rest of SA that they're trying to escape
@@rj41975 if you ran for presidency id vote for you grootman
Voting on the basis of the colour of a candidate's skin really works out, eh?
"Is not racist if we do it" 😂
Says, the apartheid apologist
@@kinghenryxl1747 No, I think that sort of binary thinking is precisely what's doomed South Africa to eternal ANC governance.
It speaks volumes that even when things are *this* bad, the ANC is still sleighted to win; because the thinking is "I'm black, so I have to vote ANC."
That removes any sort of accountability and the unthinking tribalism on display is pretty apparent.
Ask the European Union. The entire continent of Europe is a U.S. vassal state. If the U.S. pulled funding for NATO the EU would collapse.
@@Henners1991 I don't understand why white South Africans won't go back to the motherland like The Netherlands. We almost speak the same language. You can farm here. The weather is worse, sure but you won't be shot in your own home. I mean of all Africans that go illegally to the EU, I for one wouldn't have any issue with the white farmers of South Africa going back. You'll be welcomed!
One party system doesnt mean it would be bad, Singapore had the same government since 1959.
Corruption has even made us the youth corrupt, I hear people my age saying they would also do the same thing, I tell them that it doesn't help doing the same thing that the ANC is doing right now, I tell them that this will continue to our kids and our grandkids, and there will be more criminals in the country, it won't be safe for us in the future. It would worthless to spend that money in a high crime rate country.
It's painful to watch despite experiencing it all first hand.
The only difference is I have left the country and won't return.
It mustn't be understated how bad thr brain drain is. SA still has world class universities, but they are all leaving.
There is not a single friend or acquaintance I knew from uni that hasn't left or is trying to leave. All of us qualified electrical engineers, the most demand skill needed right now as we are the ones who aught to be filling the positions in Eskom. But no one sane would work for them, as corruption, criminality are so rampant you might as well be joining a gang.
There's also the pull from the first world as they are always egar for fresh young skilled personal. With offers too good to refuse, causing this brain drain to be a serious problem
This is a sad reality. The amount of south african engineers working in high tech companies abroad is insane. There isn't any reason for them to stay besides maybe having family still in the country.
The economy just can't support advanced jobs anymore.
i left as well. i'm sad, but you can't even give it a second thought. you get the opportunity to leave, you fuck right the fuck off
Sure but you have to put up with awful weather and unfriendly people in those supposedly great first world countries. Small houses too. It’s easy to imagine the grass is greener; fact is most whites in SA enjoy much better lives than those in Europe or the US
All my old classmates left for China or the West. What's even more sat is that all parents are really proud when their spouse "makes it to the X-Western Country"
instead of moving abroad you should've just moved to the Cape. can have a world-class lifestyle there
We all know the real reason
What is that???
@@joshdun3290 Deep inside, you know it too
@@Mr.mysterious76 No, i don't. That is why i asked.
@@joshdun3290you do
@@joshdun3290 I'm not in this mind but I feel he's talking about the demographic change in the South African leadership.
Very interesting timing for this video ... Shoot the messenger tactics
Thanks!
Such an adorable amount of effort to "solve the mystery" rather than just admit the obvious lol.
Because failing to investigate and relying on your knee-jerk biases and assumptions is 'good journalism' apparently
Interesting video but find it equally interesting that this was released one day before ICJ's verdict!
Open your eyes this isn't news it's straight propaganda designed to destroy South Africa's reputation. The timing of this video is INCREDIBLY suspicious. I don't believe in coincidences. Of ALL the times TLDR could have decided to make this video they just HAPPEN to decide to put this out right as the ICJ is about to make an incredibly important interim decision on Israel's Genocide of the Palestinian people, 30,000+ civilians have been blown to pieces, 80% of whom are women and children, they are being starved to death, denied clean drinking water, medicine and basic humanitarian aid, over 100+ journalists have been deliberately targeted and killed. The timing of this video is BLATANTLY obvious. The blood is on the hands of these propagandists as well. They're literally trying to manipulate the public's perception (i.e, you!) so that not if but WHEN the ICJ rules that Israel is guilty of committing an active genocide in Gaza they can point the finger at South Africa and call them a failed state or whatever else they can think of to attack them.
of course, its German propaganda.
Facts can't be properganda @@Bling_The_Visual_Creator
I hear they certainly didn't get what they wanted in court.
You mean the people who sponsored this hit piece?
@@BTL_LTW Yes
Got it! Don't bring race, tribalism, incompetent and greed into politics.
Well, politics is 90% about this things.
And most importantly try to be as least corrupt as possible (I don't think that there is any government that is 100% not corrupt)
The National Party and it's apologists did try to warn us.
@hydronpowers9014 those are 4 characteristics hard-coded into human DNA. I think you are arguing for AI governance lol.
@@letir7561if politics is about race and tribalism it means the system is broken.
Just a tip for next time. If you pull up numbers, like the gender-based violence in this video, please also pull up their counterparts. We can't put it into perspective otherwise. So in this case either also show the number for men or the number for women in other countries around the world, preferable at least one country per continent.
9500 rape cases against women, what are you expecting for the counterpart?
Do you mean put up the numbers around the world for all the violence referred. Or just the gendered violence stats?
Agreed, you can't make a case for violence against women without showing violence against men. Otherwise there is not disparity and thus the point is well... pointless
Sadly, I dont think they record those figures for men. Reports of those kind of acts are a dark number, but for men its even darker.
@@JustAnotherAccount8 There's a disparity with other countries. That's enough. The rate of women being killed by their partners in South Africa is five times the global average - that's an "oh shit" figure even if you don't have the figures for men.
We did expect that more visibility on the world stage would come with more scrutiny and more attacks, nothing new here.
Oh my god! TLDR found an EVERYTHING crisis!
The ANC needs to be removed from power and the EFF needs to be banned if South Africa ever is going to get better.
LOL, those morons will pull Murica and choose the worst option, mark my word.
unfortunately you can't ban political ideologies
@@bobsquaredme You can ban extremist ideologies.
@@starman1144 you can't control what people think. if enough people latch on to some radical idea, they'll do whatever it takes to see it through. doesn't matter what the rules are
of course, banning discussion of certain ideas does slow down their spread somewhat, but ultimately, the future is in the minds of the people
South Africa IS a failed state. The STATE has completely failed. Well, not completely. The tax department still runs very efficiently.
The only thing that is keeping the COUNTRY on its feet is the private sector and the fact that the central bank is privately owned.
Thank you for talking about this on an international forum.
A well-functioning tax department is a start, though 🙂
@@ronald3836 A start for looting the public purse.
I think that was sarcasm, @@ronald3836
Failed states do not have well functioning tax departments
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me Thank you for the disclaimer. And yes, your guess is unfounded
Just odd this comes at a time when they have successfully made the charge against Israel like idk pretty transparent if you ask me
So you want them to keep silent, to not talk about SA because hating Israel is more important? Maybe they should lie for yoy as well?
@@danielogats not saying information shouldn’t be made available to the public, just absolutely hilarious how we have almost every single one of these problems going on in America but worse they are worse, I mean do you even know what’s going on with Texas right now? I means it’s merely an issue of framing, because I highly doubt the relevancy of SA corruption should supersede coverage of that which is going on in Texas, but if choosing what to cover and what no to cover is a great way at spelling out an agenda. Mind you SA has also just handed the Chairmanship of BRICS to Russia, which is far more relevant and influential than this garbage
South Africa is just a bigger Zimbabwe
As a South African who left his country a couple of years ago I can tell you that there is a very obvious and simple reason for our country becoming what it is now. But its better not to talk about that😅
Talk!
Would you be so kind to tell us the reason then?
I would also love to hear your take
An expat has an idea about the state of SA, what could it be...
I'm aware of the answer and agree wholeheartedly 😅
Both new presenters were very well spoken. No editing errors in between lines. This episode however the microphone was "exploding" (don't know the equivalent expression in English) on some syllables especially the Ss
She seems to copy the other guys speaking styles exactly 😅
@@paraic9163 She is reading a script created by possibly the same writer. It's not a massive surprise.
@@hankgreenfingers3371 it's not the just the script though, it's the cadence and mannerisms. Likes she's his little sister. But it's not surprising, she's obviously been watching him a long time.
TLDR never looked or sounded better
It's heartbreaking seeing how favorable South Africans are to Dictatorship over democracy from that poll :/
I like the new host so far. She has clear and strong delivery.
I agree. Extremely professional for such a young kid. Very impressive.
0% chance this vid will talk about the real reason, even though everyone knows why.
that is?
@@fact6360the anc
She did say why
The reason is that the ANC started as a communist terrorist organization funded by the Soviets and supported by Cuba. Like all nations run by communists, it resulted in misery for the vast majority of the people and big offshore bank accounts for the rulers.
@@fact6360 SA went from white-run to black-run
As a guy who lives in Botswana, I'll stay in my country, While South Africa collapsed into chaotic state.
Does this video gave anything to do with AS's accusation of Israel to the Genocide Convention?
Love how this was released along with the current case going on.
That means it's relevant. Believe it or not, the South African government has political interest in pursuing the case against israel.
@@TizBaz5 Does it matter? It's the only country willing to stand up against Genocide
Lmao Achmed bout to rant about THE JEW- mean ZIONISTS and how the west is inherently genocidal from his apartment in Berlin
@@Ihatehandlesfashyyoutube lmao that crap won't work anymore, fashy. People like you have turned 'antishemiteezm" from an actual serious issue into the punchline to a bad joke.
@@zxera9702A right thing done for the wrong reasons could still be wrong
Corrections:
1. Arms deal was not during the Apartheid era, it was after apartheid formally ended.
2. The factionalism was between Zuma and Mbeki's factions unless you're arguing that Mbeki was a continuation of Mandela which is not a credible claim.
3. I would have used the term failing or floundering since I'm not sure South Africa meets the international defintion of Failed State but there are academics who argue that South Africa has always been a failed state. Might have been useful to give a definition and threshold of what a failed state is. South Africa still has credible elections, an independent judiciary and central bank, and broad respect for human rights by the state which I do not think a failed State has.
4. The claim on preference for a dictator comes from a dubious poll given the way that the question in that poll was asked (assuming you're using the poll by the SRF).
Great pronounciation of Steenhuisen, I'm impressed.
Just lost in the ICJ 15-2 lol
idk why but this video grabbed my attention better than all others
The fact that we get free videos on CZcams by TLDR News Global is truly a gift. Keeping education and knowledge alive 👏👏👏
When someone tells you that if they had the choice they would prefear not choosing (a non elected leader) just tells you there's a problem in education
No that's a school boy mistake. I'm still choosing. I'm just not choosing in the legal way.
@JewTube001 if you think that risking your life to choose your leader is a better solution that putting a paper on a box you're just crazy. And no, an unelected leader by definition is not chosen
Before a democracy has a good chance of working, you need a country with a stable rule of law. If a "benevolent" dictator could achieve that, that would not be the worst solution as a step towards a functioning democracy. The problem is that dictators usually are not very benevolent and even if they start out with good intentions, they usually become corrupt within a few years.
Examples where it sort of worked are Singapore, Taiwan, and I think also South Korea.
@ronald3836 sure, I am not saying it couldn't work. I am saying that giving up your democracy in the hopes you'll get it back is just crazy and a horrible idea. Why not vote the president you'd like instead of hoping he can get to power?
@@joelimbergamo639 Agreed, but I guess they don't see any suitable candidate, so they dream of a non-existing hypothetical dictator who fixes everything.
Maybe it is a lack of education, maybe it is a sign of desperation.