A behind-the-scenes look at a nuclear power plant
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Bill Spadea takes you behind the scenes of an amazing nuclear power plant in Salem, NJ. Check out the sights and sounds now!
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All the comments about old looking dials and buttons..You all should check out the airline cockpit I fly you all in...LOL. But in all seriousness, I see a ton of correlation between the safety procedures here and that of my work as a pilot. It would be fascinating to learn more about the operational control of a nuclear plant just to compare safety principles.
Mechanical Engineer in Nuclear, it is not surprising but interesting how similar our industries are when it comes to safety. Planes are designed with redundant systems/backups (multiple hydraulic systems and the APU, for example), their operators are heavily trained and experienced, and checklists/procedures to make sure daily and emergency operations follow the right procedures to protect the health and safety of the public.
It is no surprise that despite some tragedy, our industries are overall the safest in the world.
@@Unb3arablePain Not a nuke guy here ( almost went into it tho ), work in the Hydro world. You go to any hydroelectric facility and its the same way everything is old school as hell because 1: Its been proven to work for over 100 years in many cases 2: As long as you train your operators on how to use said old school controls its perfectly safe and proven.
Nuclear and Aircraft are the exact same way
Medicine is another area where they have(or at least should have) a lot of very specific safety procedures and training
Single Control Rod Axe Man is an acronym going all the way back to Chicago Pile 1, which could be shut down by a single control rod hanging just inside its channel, that would be released when an operator would literally cut the cord with an axe, letting it drop into the core. Hence, SCRAM.
It would be fun to put a bunch of "I don't need to read the manual" types in that simulator and see if any of them can figure anything out
Like Homer Simpson the simulator will meltdown even though there is not even a single micron of nuclear material.
"How stressful is the job?"
It's not, its boring as hell........
Running a nuclear power plant is like flying a passenger aircraft: nothing happens until something breaks and goes very wrong, which very rarely happens with modern designs...
This guy is looking for action and it doesn't happen.
No shit. Last one I worked on. I had to wait 4 hrs to move from one station to the next. Just to add a breaker. As the paper work required and the people to sign off on it. Takes that long. If you put in a notice 2 days in advance!
So I was bored off my ass. Just filling out paper work half the day....
Don't have to do much. And it's good money. Where's the catch?
Chemistry and Math and Engineering and lots of it.
Well my dad's been doing it for over 30 years. So if he can do it, I can do it too. Thinking of joining Navy and becoming a nuke in A school.
Same: MM2(SW/AW), was nuke grade but converted to conventional. Graduated top dog in all my classes thou. Lots and lots and lots of chemistry and math. If ur gonna do it, go all balls in and start hitting the books right away. Ur gonna want to do alg 1/2 and calc and chem 1/2. If ur still in highschool then you still got(im assuming another year?) to just concurrently stack your regular math class with self study of the other stuff I mentioned before on top. Prepare to test, alot, and learn how to stress/time manage like a pro.
“We know the procedure to handle any situation”
Meanwhile Homer Simpson when there is a meltdown: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wanna hold my control rod?
Why has there alarms going off at 2:30?
What does the dosimeter say?
3.6
@@PC_CERTIFIED Not great, not terrible
I went to the roof to and the dosimeter said error
What is this job position called ?
If you mean working in the control room it's mostly the nuclear operator or the control room operator.
Why are control rooms from nuclear power plants not using modern control systems? That control room looks like it was built using 1960's technology.
Because it *was* built using 1960's technology. Construction began in 1968. A lot of it has been retrofitted and upgraded but when you need hundreds of controls at your disposal, that's just kind of what they end up looking like.
@@SnownelVEVO Which at some point the nuke plants need to do more than just retrofit if they want to keep operating. Complicated systems are more prone to human operator error.
@@budders9958 True, but "if it's not broke don't fix it" is a phrase that holds power.
But older systems are inherently more complicated for operators and therefore more prone to error wouldn't it be better to update it so it's not so prone to operator error?
@@budders9958 also has to do with security. Analog systems are less vulnerable to hackers.
imagine the (SCRAM) button expired
Initiate AZ-5
C E N O B Y L
*C H E R N O B Y L
Huh?
Most likely the worst thing that could happen in a plant is a coolant pump failure because if even one of those pumps fail the reactor is basically screwed I need every pump and I mean it but thankfully that’s what auxiliary pumps are four
No. If just one pump fails the other pumps will take over. Like for an example in a 4 loop pwr there are 4 cooling pumps on those loops and 4 steam generators. If one fails then the other 3 will take over.
To bad when every plant so far that melted down, blew up, or both did no go by the book.
Where's Homer Simpson?
Damnit, these old 70s nuclear control rooms are so inefficient compared to the technology we have today. Today you could have a few computer monitors with so much information packed into them, yet back when they were designing and building these things in the 60s they didn't even have LEDs, they had to illuminate every red and green light with incandescent light bulbs!
They had red and green LEDs. Blue LEDs, much cooler and you see them in futuristic sci-fi, are the real thing!
That blonde is hot!
you could have left any comment pertaining to the video and that is the one you chose
Yeah - he must workout.
What blonde?
simp
@@cvrtonic pussy.
I need take trining opration nuclear power station.i have BS in nuclear engineering
How can contact
Alright! My Black Brother has ALL the Answers!
Racist.
@@KiloByte69 So what?
That guy was great, so was the whole crew. Those guys are there because they're the best of the best
They do not seem up to standards. Something about these scientists....
a silver I think you just don’t understand what they’re saying.
That's because they're engineers, not scientists.
They are not even engineers, they are probably operators.
These are some of the best operators in the world
@@budders9958 engineers maintain equipment all the time. Operators, engineers, what’s the difference? Not much.
Who cares about the nuclear reactor! I want know the name of that blonde in the background operating the video! She’s gorgeous!
Perverted.
@@nousername5673 prude
@@michaelesq.atpcfii.9862 😂 simp, I’m guessing its people like you who think sexual harassment is fine. You set a bad example for men by objectifying women.
@@nousername5673 And I’m guessing you’re about 300 pounds, hate men and like to hide your photo and username.
@@michaelesq.atpcfii.9862 😂 I am male and I am not 300 lbs.
Sadly this will soon become a thing of the past as we automate the control rooms. We are going to lose a lot of good paying jobs in the coming decades as we switch to digital.
@Wee Toast That's true, but it will require a lot less workers.
@Wee Toast As much as it pains me to say this, over the next 30 years every nuclear plant in America is set to expire and shut down. There is a next generation of modular plants that are looking to be built, but we are looking to fully automate all future technology in this field. These control units from the 1970's will soon be redundant. The modern control room of the 21st-century will utilize 3 workers instead of 50. They are already doing that at natural gas plants. I much prefer the old analog controls myself but it's sadly a dying trade. It will be around for three or more decades but after that there will be a mass closing down.
@Wee Toast It's a shame because I still feel it's the most secure and outlasts digital software. Software can be hacked or have a glitch. We can just use the last elections as an example. Just because you can automate something doesn't mean you should. I hope we end up keeping mechanical analog controls because they are just a timeless design.
@Wee Toast I cannot find the video anymore. Looks like they took it down, but NuScale operating room. You can Google a picture of what it looks like. Sort of deppressing.
I find it mildly concerning that they're still using 1970s technology to control nuclear reactors in the 2010s. Knobs, dials, and buttons?
Jonathan Cutting industrial technology relies on robust components that are reliable rather than fancy.
You ever seen Industrial controls systems? They must pass Explosion proof test. Earth Quake. Floods. etc... They also must last and take repeated use over 10 years. Then they get replaced during a shut down maintenance cycle...You try and use touch screens. That shit would break every year...
I find it mildly concerning that you seem to think you know more than the people who actually design and run these things.
Jonathan Cutting I’m a senior reactor operator. The older controls means the systems are simple and we literally memorize every interlock, circuit, control, etc as part of maintaining our license. Easier to diagnose problems, and much easier to fix as you aren’t doing something like debugging software. I prefer it.
Knobs, dials, and buttons are tried and tested. The kind they use are tough, reliable, and seldom fail. Just what you want when you're trying to control hundreds of fuel rods that are glowing white hot. If one switch goes bad, there's several others that can take it's place to perform the same function.
Way too many buttons and lights for today’s technologies - this must be an old design - I hope.
Well, be sure to let us know when Apple designs a nuclear reactor with just one button, I guess?
Any machine will always have the same number of buttons as it does functions unless any functions are automated, in the case of a nuclear power plant however you really need even the automated functions to still have buttons there on the offchance that the computer dies. Just like in aircraft, half the buttons on a flight deck are obsolete today, but they are still put there for the day that the computer dies and you need to access a function you normally would not such as fuel distribution or cabin pressure.
This 1960s tech, very capable and very safe.
Fukushima was extremely well-trained and it does not matter how much you train or how smart you are or how well you know the plant when you have a title Wave hit you or some other event that you can never foresee disaster will happen which is why there should be no nuclear plants anywhere in the world
They are not safe
Well, one tidal wave hitting a nuclear plant in Fukushima doesn't necessarily end the case for nuclear power. There are many safe locations to have nuclear plants where a trained staff can keep it under control, as they have for many years.
@@Jerry-ki1pn Plus over here in the states plants have new NRC standards and must be compliant. New backup power sources, generator switching gear located high and dry, etc.
The "title Wave" in Fukushima was foreseen, but plant management decided against preparing for it.
Both the earthquake and the tsunami would not have caused those three meltdowns had the diesel generators not been in the basement. A problem TEPCO knew about, had been warned about and had ignored, they are now paying the price for that as the clean-up at Fukushima almost bankrupts them.
Katsuhiko Ishibashi wrote a report on what would happen if a tsunami ever got past the walls at Fukushima Daiichi in 2007 and in 2011 he got to say "I told you so" to the panel of experts who rubbished him at the time.
I'd rather we got rid of corruption, greed and nepotism than get rid of nuclear as that is basically just spiting ourselves.
"you cannot foresee" Except there were 3 reports in the 90s and 00s given to the company running Fukushima precisely about the exact thing that happened. If anyone's to blame is TEPCO for their negligence.