BMW 440i Gran Coupe Review Road Test - 2017 - Joe Achilles
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2017
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Special thanks to Tony Lewis and the Berry BMW group for lending me this stunning car.
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This is my full review on the BMW 440i Gran Coupe, this particular car was a 2017 pre LCi car. Yet another niche BMW model that starts to make sense once you've had the keys for a few days.
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TRL/Berry BMW Deal -
2018 Lci BMW 440i M Sport Gran Coupe Sports Auto
(standard features; Metallic Paint, Leather Seats, 8sp Sports Auto, Heated Seats, LED lights, Electric Seats, Professional Media)
Options included in this quote; Adaptive M Sport Suspension, Electric Folding Door Mirrors, Digital Cockpit, M Sports Plus Package
(HK Sound, 19" Alloys, MP braking, Sun Pro Glass).
List Price for this spec is £48,600 OTR
Special deposit contribution from Berry £11,595
Customer price £37,005.
Customer deposit for example £4000.
Finance payments; 47 x £399.19
Final payment (GFV) £17,150.
APR 2.9%
based on 8000 miles PA.
Alternative low deposit quote (ideal for ex-company car drivers)
Customer deposit £1
Finance Payments 47 x £489
Final payment (GFV) £17,150.
APR 2.9%
Based on 8000 miles PA
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Cheers Joe - Auta a dopravní prostředky
In next 5 years I will have this car!
What a night. White Details, Harry's Garage and Joe Achilles. Time for some beers.
Love a bit of Harry's Garage! Cheers
Your editing is getting incredible Joe - my spine tingled in the intro and that car... never mind my spine wasn't the only thing that tingled
Haha brillant! Thanks for your kind words :-)
You probably dont give a shit but if you are stoned like me atm then you can stream all of the new movies and series on instaflixxer. Been binge watching with my gf for the last couple of days xD
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Great review Joe as always buddy! I loved to 440i coupe I drove and reviewed too. I must say though the one I had felt equally as quick as an M140 / 240i but it did have the M Performance power upgrade kicking out like 360bhp. Gran coupe is a great practical car....more so than a 3 series saloon. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼✌🏼
Another cracking review. Shows how good your channel has got lately mate. From the petrolhead tour video which couldn't be any different from this to this! Brilliant. I'm only glad that TRL has sat up and noticed what you're actually doing for the BMW brand Joe.
Cheers buddy appreciate it! Yeah I'm glad Tony is helping me out too, some people understand haha
Beautiful car..... I will look at one next year when my One series is up for renewal..
Thanks for taking the time to review the 440i...
A pleasure Patrick
That colour combo is amazing
Great Vid. 2 kids for me so have just bought a 340i Touring. Can't wait to own this engine after my 330d... good work
Fantastic video as always Joe. I'm still in my 2006 ST, but your videos have definitely helped me with my next car purchase. Chances are I'll be going for a 5 door M140i in a year or so, all thanks to you, lol.
Keep up the cracking work, I wish you all the success that comes your way and more.
Cheers Ben, glad you like it! Yeah the 140i is the best value BMW on sale today IMO :-)
Another great video, keep it going! You deserve way more recognition. Ordered my m140i shadow edition because of your videos, take delivery late November, I can't wait
Cheers Dale! Haha unless I shoot loads of shitty click bait videos, my channel will always be small... Good luck with the new pocket rocket :-)
Joe Achilles keep it real and the great content and you will grow! Quality will slowly beat the clickbait
I do like this model quite a lot, saw one at a dealer in Tanzanite blue and just loved it.
Yeah quite mega hey!
Cracking review joe keep up the good work p.s ordering mine today 👍
Love the vid !
And also love the color matching on this one !
Cheers
Great video and editing! Always looking forward to your next video 👍🏼
Cheers Lewis, glad you liked it!
Great video as always! Been a subscriber for a year now and your content just gets better and better! 👍🏼
Cheers Ryan, appreciate your long term support!
Quality video. Production values are getting better, it's a really engaging watch - fair play to you mate. ✊
Haha that's a "respect" emoji, not a derogatory self appreciation wave 😂😂
Probably the best BMW channel that I know of ! Really proud to be one of your subscribers !
Cheers, wish BMW UK would see it that way haha
Nice review Joe. Pick up my 430d LCI on friday... cannot wait 😊
Ohh nice, now that would give the 440i a run for its money, also probably be the better all rounder.. Enjoy!
Joe Achilles thanks so much mate. 👍👍
Thanks Joe love chillin to your blog :)
Thanks for taking time to watch my stuff :-)
Excellent review! I especially love the fact that you always have the section at the end of the video to give raw noise without talking over the sound! Lots of youtubers and others talk over it and it drives me nuts! I just watched your entire video and kept my attention on it and felt chilled and relaxed as if I was having a casual conversation about the car. Its nice to have someone who is so clued up about cars just go through all the things in such perfect amounts of detail and even while giving negative opinions still push on without issue. I have one of these on order in black sapphire - I hope I haven't made a mistake as some of the things in this video have made me a little edgy but here is to hoping I'm all good haha :p P.S When is your next meet! :D
I shall now proceed to share the hell out of this & stick it on our FB group BMW F3X uk owners club as well :D I'm sure they'll enjoy it!
Awesome review! Always keeping it real and focusing on the stuff that people care about, instead of just numbers and fluff.
One thing though Joe, UK CZcamsrs always mention the need for softer suspension due to "UK roads", how bad is it really?
You should make a video about it! :)
Haha Cheers man! Mate the UK roads are mostly dreadful, a video wouldn't be a bad idea!
You’re a bad influence on me Joe! I want one now xD that’s how good your videos are keep it up!
I love Bucks but my God the condition of the roads!.....Anyway been looking forward to this & didn't disappoint. Great content Joe and informative as ever. Keep up the good work mate
Haha glad you agree Robert! Beautiful part of the world, terrible quality roads. Thanks for watching :-)
Can't wait till u hit 100k subs, your channels gonna blow up after that
Haha lets hope so man :-) Thank you
Lovley review Joe, really well thought out. I'm a fan of the 440i GC, including the beautiful colour, that I believe was an individual option on the E46 range (back in the day). Please tell me though.. how does your M135i compare, performance and feel wise to the 440i? I'm sure, with the mods you have done, it's faster or similar to a stock M140i now?
Great review, many thanks
Cracking motor that 440 GC Joe 👌🏼👌🏼
Great review Joe, the 4 series gran coupe is such a great all rounder :)
Cheers James!
Great video joe as always. How would you compare the real world performance of this too a 335d of the same age?
Great review, i have the LCI car and wondered if you get a ticking noise when accelerating. No impact on performance, but annoying; main dealer says nothing wrong. I love the car; performance with practicality.
LOVE THIS CAR...THANX FOR REVIEWING
Thanks for watching!
Good review, had mine pre MPSK at 358bhp (think all b58's run higher than quoted) after just under over 390bhp 4.6 seems to be my best 0-60 even after swapping out the awful Potenza's on the year, will wait for the warranty to run out before shifting onto non run flats and a JB4 me thinks! love the look on RS fan boys faces when a 4GC reels them from 40 onwards! Also not had a 435d come close even before MPSK? After the initial launch I must add there the X Drive is brilliant.... as in most tractors..
Top quality as always Joe. Love your enthusiasm for the BMW brand and the M Lites in particular, part of the reason I got the M140i (through TRL). Is the M Performance power kit available in the UK for the 340i/440i models? May just be what the heavier cars need.
Great video!Which car do you prefer?440i or M140i?
Great review JA. What do you think of the road noise? I test drove one the other day. I noticed quit a bit of tyre noise intruding into the cabin.
As for the engine noise, the salesman said there are two sub-woofers under the seats mimicking engine noise. He said you can turn them off by disconnecting a cable plug in the boot.
Hello massive fan.
Was looking at getting the 440i and wanted to know when you were pushing on how intrusive did you find the sport plus traction control? To much or did it make you fell safe when you kicked the tail out a little bit as seen in your Video
Loved the review very informative
Did you say you thought the 3 series is more powerful...if so, what model and extra packages would you recommend for the 3 series?
I LOVE LOVED your video!!
Brilliant review going to see one tomorrow. Very fair price
I currently have the 435i Gran coupe and want to upgrade to the 440i Gran coupe but my question is Is the 430i Gran coupe enough power for the weight of this car? I have a 230i convertible and the car moves much more than I ever thought but it is much smaller and lighter. Thoughts?
Another great review.
Thanks Mark!
Awesome video Joe the beginning reminded me of a Chris Harris video
Cheers Stephen, biggest compliment ever!
Hey joe
Would u choose it over a 540i cuse im planning to buy one but confused between them
Hi Joe. With regards to the sound, have you tried an x40i vehicle with the MPPSK fitted? I put it on my 340i Touring and it has transformed the sound!
Hi Joe...I know this video is old but I do have this same car and would like your opinion/experience on the Eibach lowering springs for this car. Do you recommend it or not.
Enjoyed this one mate 🙌🏽
Cheers buddy glad you liked it
Good review mate very planted love the back road bash 👌 i think it would be a good choice for someone that travel long distances 🤔
Cheers Pete! Yeah agreed, a great long distance mile muncher!
I have got a 330D and i m thinking in a tune to 300bhp, and have thought about M2 ou 440i in the past thinking that the 440i would be the best of booth worlds. Is it? How do you compare it to your M2? And with the 330D?
Thanks good work
Greek Cypriot blood by any chance? Great review thank you but what mpg did you get after that drive?
Great video great colour too
Would you say the B58 performs better in this or the M140i? Seeing as this is heavier, which can handle the torque and HP better than the 140 which I've heard slips a fair bit. I've always wanted a B58 engine but unsure as to get this or the 140. Also more importantly, which do you think will be lower in price in the next couple years 😉
Great video
Please. Do a review on a 335d or 435d - Im a new subscriber who is falling in love with the BMW approach ❤️ Keep em coming
I will hopefully one day, both the 335d and 435d sit very high due to the xDrive set up.
Let's see. "Winter is coming", maybe BMW UK should consider handing over a xDrive loaner ;-)
The shape of the 3 series M Sport saloon best of any car , but the four seat interior of this car 4 Grand tour is brilliant love it and all black carbon fiber would look beautiful but even with this interior and white and the exterior look good not so mad on the shape of the car , it takes time to grow on one . This was a very good review of this car .I wish the 3 series was just designed with four seats like the interior of this 4 series. 👍
Can you please do a review on the 340I saloon would be good to compare the two.
Love the review! Not sure why but I really like this car. I think it just looks a bit more classy than a 3 but if I were spending A LOT I'd get a 335d with XDrive. Any chance of seeing one of those reviewed soon? Maybe on a long trip with some mountain biking ;)
Nice color !
Do you think its in 2021 a good car to get ? For a good price?
Classy Intro!! Loved that bit of Oversteer out of the exit. I'd still go for the 3 Series but I could the people who would go for the 4 Series.
Will we see an M version of this body?..
Great video mate 👌🏽
Sideways Sid if they can do an M X6 then they should do an M of this body style! Wide M arches and M aggressiveness on this would be awesome!
I'm a sucka for a M6 gran coupe too. Long, wide and low 😎
Cheers buddy! Yeah how cool would a M4 GC be ;-)
In your videos try to record the dash more and an acceleration video like Alpina B7 one . Cheers!
Great video. I really like it. Could you compare 440i gc with alpina D3 in terms of ride comfort. In my place roads are far worse than in UK :)
Don't think that I have forgotten our discussion back on the 435i video!!!!!!
God I've forgotten... Remind me please
Put your name down for that Top Gear job Joe! Great review 👍👍
Cheers Martin :-)
Is the mperformance lsd An optional? Why you haven't it?
hot damn i'm early
i love your videos joe, you deserve way more subs. you're the reason i bought my M140i and i'm thankful as its such a brilliant, brilliant car :D
Cheers Matt glad to hear man! Isn't it a bloody brilliant little car!
Great Video Joe 👍
Hi Joe, great video! What do you use to mount gopro to your car to get such smooth footage? Appreciate your advice.
Sasha Stories hey Sasha, I use the go pro suction mount on the windscreen. The go pro also has a stabilizer in it 👌 Cheers
Would love to see a review on the F36 430d. Only because I have one and don't know what to look for next. Your comparisons would be just what I'm looking for.. I had a Golf R before the 430d and almost instantly regretted changing as I am the type of keen driver that will pick up the keys and just go out for a blast - 430d isn't really that type of car unfortunately even though it is brilliant in other ways.. I will stick with the BMW brand for my next car but I think the m140i and m240i might be a bit small for me after the F36. Would love an M4 but here in Ireland they start at €115,000 (£101k) - M2 starts at £75k too. Maybe the new M340i and M440i when they eventually come out.
Hi Joe!
Great video l(once again) - im looking to buy a 3 series touring with either the 40i engine or the 35d engine... what are your thoughts?
Hey Oliver, as Pete says, unfortunately the 35d comes on the higher x setup (like the 320 xDrive I'm currently running long term). I would therefore look at the 330d or 340i, the petrol will feel and sound most sporty, but the 330d is an incredible machine, might look like it lacks on paper, but in reality is mega. Test drive both engines. Cheers
Thank you both for the great feedback! Truth be told I've actually already driven both the 330d and the 340i (not the 335d), and yes i was amazed about the performance of the 30d. Thats the reason why i wanted to hear your thoughts on the 35d (which I've not yet been able to drive), as i found it hard to believe it would be even more impressive . But really I don't think i need to drive now when you've brung up the x-drive-issue. Its my first BMW and therefore i think it has to be rear wheel driven (Even though i live in Denmark), and the idea of a straight six petrol is too appealing to me right now, to not wanting to spent the extra ;-)
Thank you and once again great videos Joe!
4 seater you mean 5 seater . What a machine stunning
Hey Joe
What do you think of Bmw start stop system? Im a little bit annoyd in mine with steptronic.
It worked really well on this car and in conjunction with the B58, it doesn't work so great in my M135i or the 2017 320D I'm running, not slick at all!
I get the 4 series gran coupe. It's cooler because it's more exclusive! + hatchback & pillarless doors = win!
The spec of this car is just 👌🏼
Great video as usual Joe!!
Cheers totally agree!
Nice man
how did you get the white leather? is that an option?
At 17:46 do you keep the break pushing, or it has a launch control? Thanks in advance!
It has launch control buddy
You couldn’t get the 6 in the 3 series grand coupe. Only the 328i turbo 4. So it’s not like you can have the equivalent in the 3 series grand coupe style hatch
engine,is fantastic!
Need this color combo on an M140i 5dr.
Now that would be cool
I am thinking of adding the M performance exhaust + sound kit to my new 440i (coupe) but I'm not sure..
After having this one for a week I would say its worth it!
Joe is it more frugal than 435i? Found one 435i xdrive full optional at 30000€ and I’m thinking about it.
How is your 440i so far, and major problems on it ,is it reliabile, wanted to buy one for a bit now, plz get back to me.thx
Good Vid that Joe. I'll stick with my BMW M140i as a better suited sports car with the B58 engine. I may consider the 4 series for my wife but perhaps with a diesel engine... Good content!
Cheers buddy!
i suddenly have a thing for the RWD 340i touring... seems just like a little bigger 140i with a bigger boot
Bet an M2 would look great in that color. Trying to picture it on mine, and with the black front grille and side skirts I think it would look epic.. Listening BMW?
Agreed, they need to offer more colours on the M2... BMW never listen (to me at least) haha
Joe Achilles Just an FYI Joe. It seems like EVERY time I 👍one of your videos initially I get the blue thumbs up when I click it. But... If I go back to your same video later, the next day, or even a week or month later, the blue "thumbs up" is NOT there anymore. I have to relike it again. Very odd. Just wanted to let you know bud. Keep up the good work. Been a sub since your M2 pick up video. Be well.
Made the 1k likes!
I miss the PPSK there 😋
Is that colour specifically made for the German Austin Powers?
Yeah I think it might be actually... Haha
'Make sure you're not breaking the speed limit by too much 15:27" Just break it a little 😂
Have you tried the 440i 2 door?
I owned a 435d M-Sport, it was a very comfortable and classy vehicle, but ultimately the 3-series is a better car to drive.
I have a 340i Shadow, which I recently took delivery of. It drives brilliantly and like you say, the weight difference shows.
But it is not meant for driving like a loon, it is a classy cruiser, comfortable, I love the low driving position you can have in the 4-series as well.
Only downside with the 440i and 340i is it is juicy around towns, I mean really juicy and I do not drive like a nut job. On the motorway though and long journey, I have had around 40-45MPG out of my 340i at 80mph, which lets face it, is astonishing for a 3.0 petrol engine.
Nice motor though, and nice review.
sambozauk what sort of mpg round towns?
I picked up an M440i coupe last week and I drove 111miles home at 60mph in cruise control and got an average of 49mpg which is brilliant. It does drop to the late 20's around town but I have an average of 36mpg over the past week.
Pillar-less doors look so good
I drove a 440i M Sport at Pocono Raceway not too long ago... it had Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires on it, and even though it was starting to rain, the car was very impressive through the corners. If you're going to buy a 440i, definitely go for the M Sport package.
Interesting, I didn't know they fitted them with PSS, maybe it was a bent BMW event haha
HA! It was a BMW Track Day event, lolz... But I tell you what, if I bought a 440i or 540i Gran Coupe, I'd seriously consider forking out the cash for the Pilot Super Sports...the grip those tires gave the car was incredible.
I have never got one but if i had the money i would definately get this one. Gran coupes just special to me for some reason. İts a family car version of an M4. May be not as fast as an M4 but enough space enough speed and less engine noise which i prefer. 4 door coupe my favourite:) interiorwise i dont like the interiors of the 5 series and above for some reason. Both interior and exteriorwise the gran coupes still look better than even the new g20s. Yeah the 3 series look more compact but those frameless 4 doors worth it! :) By the way i own an e36 3.18i.
I borrowed a 4 series GC for a few days. I found the seat higher than a coupe. My head touched the sunroof surround. So I bought the coupe. Which felt lower and sportier.
Okay thats interesting too hear, I must say I didn't feel too high, but always good when you can sit lower :-)
Have you reviewed 640d
Such a beautiful car let’s be honest!! Not long left before we are fully electric!!
Super vid as always Joe. Controversial question - I have no issue with BMW's and truthfully don't know the range too well, but yes the 4 series sits between the 3 & 5 series, make sense, BUT is there really a need for the 2, 4 & 6 series? Is there too much choice? I'm thinking where is the track/sports car like the AMG GTR.......will the 8 series be this car? By the way I'd take any vehicle from the range, love the build quality and RWD is a rewarding experience......anyway I'm off out for a low speed understeer HOON in my Honda Jazz😂 ....1.2SE....by the way
Cheers man! Haha yeah you have a good point, unfortunately all the big germans do it these days, if they see a small niche, they will build one. I agree they badly need a proper flag ship sports car like the GTR or the R8 V10 Plus... Hopefully the M8 will happen over the next 2 years. Enjoy the 1.2 Super hatch ;-)
This car would appeal to those who want a squeak free 3 series BMW since only frameless door beemers don't suffer from the dreaded door rub when chassis twists as you go through undulations/potholes/elevation changes ie anything that can cause the frame to twist slightly.
Obviously there's always going to be an exception (or you're simply not hearing it) but I suggest googling 'bmw squeaky door seals' it's more prevalent than it seems.
Suffered the squeaks on my last two 3 series but all fixed by my BMW dealer with a special tape kit which cured it completely and you wouldn't know the tape was there unless you looked very closely. No one has noticed it. Looking forward to collecting my new 4 series M Sport next week!
That colour is awesome but i still prefer snapper blue.
Very nice car and i would rather have this with the 4 doors over the same spec 3 series but i thought the whole point of the 4 series was a 2 door coupe version of the 4 door 3 series.
BMW's model designation scheme is weird... 4 series cars are 2 door versions of the 3 series cars, unless they're Gran Coupe models, in which case they're not... Lol. Same goes for the 5 and 6 series... 6 series cars are 2 door versions of 5 series cars, unless they're Gran Coupe models, in which case they're not.
BMW needs to rethink their model designation scheme, because it's a bit... wonky.
Yeah model names make no sense anymore :-(
Indeed... Though, they could easily correct it... Change the 4 series Gran Coupes into the 3 series Gran Coupes, and change the 6 series Gran Coupes into 5 series Gran Coupes. Sure, that'd pretty much mess things up for the M6 Gran Coupe, but even that's not a big deal... just have the M5 and the M5 Gran Coupe. At least then their model range would make some sort of sense.
Ich liebe dieses bmw lila. Es ist eine schade, dass es wenige diese Farbe in Deutschland fahren.
I hate the heavy steering in sport in my 140 too, I wish I could have it the same as it is in comfort
Way too much weight :-(
Joe Achilles fast reply.. I've not even finished watching the video yet 😂
I've turned off the sports steering when in sport mode but I don't have adaptive dampers so not sure if it would effect the dampers hardening as well?
Hi JT, you can alter in the settings without the adapative suspension, set Drivetrain to Sport and Steering to Comfort, seen it suggested by Chris Harris and I now fully agree!
Chris B, that doesn't work as you get stuck with full traction control and stability.
"make sure you're not breaking the speed limit .. by too much" :D
Hmmmm ;-) haha