2023 Tuned BMW M3 Xdrive vs Tuned Audi S4 vs Tuned BMW M340i. Drag and Roll Race.
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- 2023 Tuned BMW M3 Xdrive vs Tuned Audi S4 vs Tuned BMW M340i. Drag and Roll Race.
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This is one of interesting races I've ever seen. Well done to BMW 340i work.
Man! That 340i could be a terror for a lot of fast rides out there with just a stage 2 upgrade, No Joke! 😳
@@martygreen3145Still BMW S58 would walk it top end
@@martygreen3145 imagine stage 3 tuned 0 to 100 in 3.1 seconds
The S4 definitely needed more time to spool. M3 is the clear winner, as expected, but I'd like to see this again with a driver mod in the S4.
Beemer is betta
I also think it needs an intercooler if not a better intercooler. As the races went on it was clearly suffering from heat-soak
@@G20T nah fuck your Beamer buddy
@@Mk7Alberttotally agree the first thing I did before I threw in APRs stage 1 in my S5 I might do the same with my A4
Lmao the Audi driver sucks, those launches were awful
Hey Folks. This is the 2018 B9 S4 here. Couple things. The M340i had no back seat. Not sure if that was mentioned in the video. Additionally, my car (in the digs) was never able to to get above 2500 RPM at launch. With this platform, 3000RPM (or higher) is optimal. Presently, the car cuts a sub 3.0 second 0-60, a 6.89 second 1/8th, and a 6.59 second 100-200km/h. Times are uploaded to dragy under gta_audi. At the end, when I did a casual dig with the M3 Comp and launched at 3000RPM, I took his car. The M340i declined that race. This being said, the BMW is an extremely fast car and can be built faster and for less compared to a B9. A race running E60 to E70 all around would be much more interesting. Fun day, and thanks to Sam for hosting a great event!
Audi's are crap never won a race, You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.
Your car does NOT have 534 wheel horsepower. Your car is doing the same times as my stage 2 93 RON map 034 S4 which will have 470-480 CRANK horsepower. You're absolutely and utterly deluded.
I was gonna say, 3.6 0-60 for that car seemed extremely high
@@ElyciusMFr that’s stage 1 numbers 😅
WOW......he removed the back seat....your clip is carbon.....moot point.
This is one of the most exciting drag races I’ve seen in a while
As an Owner of a 2018 Audi S4 I can tell you that dude does not know how to launch it 😂smh . Those M340s tho sheesh 👀
That’s what I was going to say… a little tutorial would have gona a long way. These things rip off the line
Moral of the story, save your money and get an M340i😋...WOW!
Driving dynamics is on a totally different level on the G80. Not comparable if you want that. As a daily the M340i is great!
No, save your money and get real M car
not sure about that....m3 is a far superior drivers car. and if you really want to tune it with donwnpipes, it'll blow both of these out of the water.
@Veyronp87 I'm just saying about roll/drag races, obviously there's more to driving that that😉
M240i would be quicker. Less weight smaller and lowered more to the ground.
M3 is stock with a piggy back tune. Hardly "tuned". Real tuned G80s are making 700 whp with a downpipe.
No lol
That’s not a genesis though
My car is about even with stage 1 bm3 from what I’ve seen. There is many g80’s and 2021+ BMW’s running jb4 as many of us can’t have the car sitting while waiting for the ECU. But of course we will not run a 700whp g80 Vs these cars it doesn’t make sense
Screw you calling it g80. I can’t find any research on a tune for my 2023 g80 3.5T because all the dumbass bmw fan boys calling it g80
@@laurent36 yeah my Genesis g80 can run jb4 too. Makes over 500 whp on certain maps with downpipe and bolt ons
I’m a Audi guy but those B58 and especially the M340 are pretty hard to beat for what it is. Just wish it had a little better interior
Wdym by better interior?
@@vladislavdimitrov4646 Compared to the current generation S4/S5 and I really don’t like the all screen no buttons 2023 M340 update they did. At least I don’t
@@mqbr22as a BMW guy I have to agree with you on this
@@mqbr22 It still has buttons in the middle
I own a 340i and i agree, audi interior is miles better
That mighty g80 is simply a monster 😮😮😮😮
I was there that day. The S4 has a turbo upgrade. It was taking time to spool the turbos. I think he could have done a better job, but the car had the highest trap speed among the three cars. It was a slow day for times, but he managed a 11.0 at 128mph if I recall correctly.
But the Bimmers were sling shots off the hole for sure!
Gotta build the car for a certain purpose. Sounds like the S4 would do better at roll racing or half mile with a big, laggy turbo.
Agreed, you could tell the Audi hadn't quite hit full boost before the finish
Audi sounds like he needs more grip too. Does the Audi guy have an Instagram or fb profile? I would love to follow him.
Man that Audi sounds good. Just sold my 18 S5 for a 23 M3 comp. M3 is better in every way except the sound!
11.0s at 128mph sounds right with 530~ whp. Per video, the S4 did 3.6s for 0-60 and 11.3x for 1/4 miles. It should have done like 3.0 and 11 respectively
That launch of m3 comp in drag race 2 was so fuckin crazyyyy
He was supposed to do a burnout in rwd, then put it back in awd. He would have launched like that the first time haha.
Yeh it was in a different league smh shit rolls out and Leo moving
@@Thicc340 can’t do burnouts there. Launched the same both times but was very late on first launch, you just can’t see in the vid. M3 says “preparing launch” and then active. I didn’t time it well the first time and waited for it to be active to go
@@laurent36 for sure! That makes sense. All of the cars performed about what I expected. I thought the S4 would do a little better off the launch though.
@@Thicc340 it definitely can. Would love to run it back. We should be even as you can see in the roll race but he was having a hard time timing the launch right
That 340i noise is just fantastic!!
🤔 🤣
That was the Audi…😅
@@ssanderson12 No, the BMW.
sounds like a 2J a lil
M340 b58 combo is probably best choice for the money insane off the line even when stock 💯
Great races! M340 did very well...
M340i is a huge bargain. M3 xdrive 23 model tops up to atleast 110k Canadian.
well its totally a different animal so it should cost more. And also in these colors I like the M3 more.
Eh wouldn't pay 110-20k grand for one. Better options out there
@@SSH939 depends what you want. The M340i is just a good daily so if you want that it's fine.
For that amount I can get an r8 or a nice porche. Definitely not an m3.
@@SSH939 what Porsche or R8 are you getting for 110k CAD. I've been on auto trader and even the base 911s cost 160k cad +, r8s are like over 200k now. Maybe an old high mileage V8 R8 or a old 991 or 997 Carrera which imo are worse options than a brand new 2023 M3 for that money
That second roll race was awesome!
It hurts my brain when I see people say the B58 is better than the S58 🥴
Bmw guys tend to have a lot of information bias 😂
B58 is definitely not designed to be the Beast its big brother is. But it’s a hell of a near 2JZ replacement enough for Toyota to cowardly have it put it in its Supra instead of retooling and bringing back the 2JZ.
Toyota and Lexus will never catch up to Porsche, BMW and other Bad-A Beasts! 😂
It sounds better that’s about it
@@martygreen3145 b58 is a bmw motor though? So how is the b58 not gonna catch up to bmw when its quite literally an engine from bmw?
@@tylerspecht7553 He's talking about the 2jz or Toyota in general.
As someone who owns the m340 in that exact spec and color , that’s freaking amazing , mine is stock , but after seeing that I’ll be looking for a tuner in the South FL area ! Well done Sam
David Shoup is one of the best B58 Tuners. He’s my tuner and I’m in Ohio. He’s a few hours from you.
For what? To be 0.2 seconds faster from 0-60 mph.
@@Frank-xp3xd actually more in the vicinity of half a second or better, also tunes will usually get you better throttle response. So why not
@@frankcastle1578 I was referring to the speed limits you guys have in the US (I am German) but if it's worth it to you, do it.
@@Frank-xp3xd no , you were talking about the 0 to 60 acceleration time not the top speed , go back and see your comment !
M340i is just best overall car in the world price/performance wise.
The m340i was seriously tuned. The G80 m3 was barely tuned.
I've seen stage 1 tunes of the G80 m3 surpassing 750 bhp
@Elijah Andrew stage 2 is seriously tuned ? Downpipe plus stage 2 tuning, maybe coldair intake and a intercooler upgrade in combination with stage 2+ remap. This is not what you call heavily modified car :)
The M3 has miles better driving dynamics. As a daily driver the M340 is great but gladly would pay the extra for the M3 over the 340i.
Yes, pay twice as much or more optioned out lol.
@@elijahandrew6790put the crack pipe down that’s stage 2+ making 750hp to get more you need new turbos which will make that stage 3
All those mods in the S4 just to get clapped by an M340i on Imperial Ecosport 2 tires . The B58 and S58 are no joke and I own both. B58 will always be the best bang for buck and sounds incredible.
It is faster, yes.
Good runs! The turbo lag in the S4 is bad it seems, cause it definitely seems like the faster car if it didnt have the lag. Also, I hear the Dragy Meter app voice so it'd be cool to see the actual time slips from Dragy for the 60ft./Gforce
He needs antilag or to brake boost, but I thought the S4 would have won too with the hybrid.
The BMW is faster car not the VW you guys talking bullshit
@henzo7087 I'm basing my comment on roll race 2, where the BMW gets out ahead, and S4 slowly reeling in, but it's a short track so didn't have time to reel back in time.
Sam awesome video as always!! I love the new intro!! So awesome to see TUNED Cars now and the time's thanks for listening to the feedback!! Omg 😱 that M3 lunch!! A TUNED 340 will hurt many feelings!! The Audi is super sweet also!! 🏁😎
This race had me hyped! New owner of a '23 G80. Love seeing it in action
Congratulations! Just got a second job so I can get a G82. A JB4 is the mildest of tunes so I might do that too.
I love mine…. I am keeping mine stock for warranty purposes. I think it’s fast enough for street driving. I’ll just buy something faster if I need it. Maybe a 911 turbo s.
You could add the 100-200 kph times or 60-130 mph. It would be interesting to see
I swear but the M340i sounds better than the m3 lmao!
So wild and chaotic. That was crazy to watch. Holy hell
Bro I’ve been waiting all day for this to play at 1pm tdy
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And the answer is the same as always, get a m340i tune it and save $50k.
that answer is always wrong. The driving dynamics of the M3 are on a different planet.
Dude, just stop. People aren't spending 100k+ on a m3 unless it's pocket money. Much better options out there
@@SSH939 The M3 IS the best option for the price / performance / quality / driving dynamic etc...
@@peterhammer6915 They aren't that different lmao
@@DMCarReviews They are like standard VW Polo ad Golf R. You just dont get the kicks from the 340i. On a track especially its a turtle when compared to M3.
Man the G80 M3's are just beasts!!!
That s4 driver does not know how to drive at all😂😂
That S4 was rated at 534whp, I don’t know why people lie 😂 and also please next time make sure he is awaken
No the s4 just suck😂
@@tacksdiazmy 460HP at the crank S4 does the same 1/4 mile time as this car 😂 if he has that claimed power at the wheels he'd be doing 10s, some folk talk utter BS about their cars.
@jimmy mcgoo very typical in the car community these days not to mention it could have been one of those dynocom dynos or hub dynos that read way higher. My heavier a6 with fbo, ported blower, and small shot of nitrous runs 10.04 at 137 without nitrous it runs 10.52 at 132 and without nitrous I should be making roughly what he does to the wheels 😂 why is my heavier a6 with same power significantly faster .
It’s an automatic, in a straight line
Man that M3CX does WORK!!!
Thank you for the amazing content Sam
That M3 seemed like it was shifting slowly. I had that happen with JB4 on my X3M… the difference between a flash tune and JB4 would be huge for that M3
Massive difference, jb4 is the only way this race would ever be kinda close
XHP trans tune fixes this it’s cause by the tq limiters in the trans
Huge difference
Another banger of a video! Love your stuff! Would love to see an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio both tuned or stock in your videos 👍🏼
Amazing races 🔥🔥🔥
Keep up the good work Sam
@SamCarLegion - Your best video to date. Just need the Trap Speeds at the end. Well done.
Dravit gray is absolutely beautiful
Great Video; Sammy the Great!
Love the Audi. I’ve had a b8.5 S5, sq5 and B9 S4. I have to say the new m3 is eating the competition alive.
S4 isnt an M3 competitors lol, C63 is..
@@awhs5435 Exactly! A tuned M3 shouldn't be in this race.
@@awhs5435 s58 claps the competitors. It beats the rs4/5 and the c63.
@@skylineownzful no it doesnt lol, owned a W204 with a stage 2 tune, walked many BMWs and Audis,
maybe stock for stock.
@@awhs5435 you are delusional my friend
Why don‘t you tell that the 340i has only under 380 WHP ???? M3 530 WHP S4 500 WHP 340i 500+ HP ????? or better said: M3 770 HP, S4 700+ HP, 340i 470 HP
Yup I wasn’t doing anywhere close to 500 definitely lower
🤣🤣🤣. Yes and my 120d is making 1000whp.
You gave us a times 🎉❤!
That Audi top end was reeling them in ! But damn BMWs can fly with less mods 🔥
At first I thought the Audi had no place in this race but the top end really surprised me. I really wish they made an RS4 sedan for the US
It's called an RS5 sportback.
@@DESTcmndr i like the A5 sportback but I think I like the A4 design language a bit more.
Top end with upgraded turbo!
@@WaveManMike It's the exact same thing, that's like saying you wished you had an m3 coupe
The M340i pulls hard. I had the 2020 model but only RWD. The x drive is something different.
“Man those BMW’s are getting quicker every year!” “Lord have mercy!” 😳 And we ain’t even talking M5 Comp/CS or X5 Comp!!
All those are slower and have lower potential than the G8X. G8X is currently BMWs pinnacle for drag/tuner performance.
@@olu why would a 4.4 v8 have lower potential than 3.0 i6
What I saw is that the Audi has a horrible turbo lag, you can see how the power in both BMW’s kick in almost immediately, crazy for being a turbocharged car, I personally hate turbo lag
at 1:19 that could be an intro for a horror movie🔥🔥
Some amazing cars but damn those bmws are quick.
Really like having the quarter mile times. Maybe you could add mph at the end as well. Maybe too much of a headache mph or kph.
What a great match up
Lets Roll!!!!
It seems as there is no return for investment in the S4.
If the m340i had the stock turbo, that was really stinking impressive. I'd love to see that car come back with a pure 800 swap.
Much better turbos out there than pure 800
@@behindthebuild8016 such as? i mean i believe u but i'd like to know (for research) lol
Impressive i love it 👍
Outstanding
4:20 bro rolling up window like it's gonna help 💀
Wow amazing 😍
That 340i is a monster
I love this
The S4 could of left a lil harder but not bad. The G80 is DEFINETLY in a league of its own. Especially full bolt on and tuned.
Them m340i’s with them b58s no joke
Honestly JB4 is a trash tune. Unlock ECU and put bm3 stage 2 on it no car is touching it not even 911 turbo S.
Bro just finished watching the carwow vid 😂 Would love to unlock but can’t have the car sitting right now
Although not the best, for what it is the jb4 is a good improvement over stock
The front of that S4 looks like a RS3 LMAO
Quebec in tha house babyyyyy ❤❤❤
These all on 93oct pump gas (G80 M3 is) or also Ethanol?
Thanks for getting time gear 👍👌
The G8X M3/M4 is a 10-sec car with just a tune. Lord have mercy
It went just as expected, but I’d stilled enjoyed it 👍🏾
Wow nice race 😊
A fair race was between the M340 and S4
In roll race in high speed S4 kill all@💪
That tuned M3 is tracking right with the numbers of my ‘22 Model S Long Range, which is impressive.
The Long Range isn't touching that M3. On an open highway a stock M3 will annihilate it.
Yeah, you are high AF lol. Even a M3P isnt touching any of these cars. You better have a plaid, and even still, they arent the fastest out there.
@@DMCarReviews LOL…I guess you don’t know much about the Model S Long Range. It’s MUCH quicker than the M3, ESPECIALLY on the open road at highway speeds. DragTimes just released a video last week of a Long Range absolutely walking an 850HP tuned M5. Annihilate is right, but you have it backwards!
@@wesleywalls7582 Lol, in your fantasy. A tuned M3 with DP (stock internals) runs Plaid times, so a stock M3 Competition is definitely showing the Long Range it's taillights on an open freeway. Long Range tops out at 145 while the M3 goes 180+.
@@DMCarReviews it doesn’t matter what you think, you’re flat out wrong. Look up the stats yourself. Did you even watch the video link I sent, much less look up ANY review with stats? Obviously you haven’t. Example…60-130 is 7.99 for MS and +/-9.5 for M3. That’s a MASSIVE difference.
Imagine if the m3 had a proper tune and transmission tune 👋🏼 to all the cars
thats one of the craziest B9 S4s ive seen. i feel like this gen S4 overall hasn't been as impressive as the B8.5 but this one is sick. the 2 3 series, well they're both crazy goes without saying.
B9 s4 with tte810 are running 700 wheel on E. B8.5 max out around 500
I sadly agree. I had a b8.5 (2013) S4 that I loved but traded for a 2018 340i because the b9 s4 just has so little potential relative. I couldn't stomach buying a b9 s4 for A LOT more money to tune it and run nearly identical with my tune and intake b8.5. Then there is the top end issues with the b9 (roller bearings dropping out) that made me look elsewhere. Interior aside the 340i is a superior driving car. Handling is better (Stock adaptive dampers has some roll but handles better than my V3 Coilover setup in the s4). Stock braking is better on the BMW and has an OEM Upgrade available. The car is noticeably lighter, and the weight distribution is night and day. My f30 still understeers a bit at the limit (which I'm fine with as it's a daily street car) because it's staggered, but the Audi even with upgraded suspension would just understeer hard and pull until the Sports Diff kicked in to pull things around. Even then you felt the car constantly fighting all the weight over the front axle. Then obviously the real treat is the b58. With a TU fuel pump and down pipe people are making about 450whp on 93 pump. 500+on Ethanol mixes. Drop a 2k turbo in and you're talking 600+ to the wheels. It's one of the best bang-for-buck cars in out there right now. The B9 just doesn't offer as much up to the driving enthusiast, even if it is a more comfortable car with nicer materials inside. It's a good, swift luxury vehicle. The f30 and g20 offer 90% the comfort and 50% more driving fun. Only thing I miss about the Audi are the excellent seats, the charger whine (however this was easily made up for by the most excellent MPPSK exhaust) and the differential. I will be added a diff to the 340i at some point and a minor lowering spring to work with the adaptive dampers and I think it'll be great for street use. I don't track things ever. B58 is a buttery gem to drive!
It's not a b9. B9 is faster
This is not the S4 to compare to a brand new M3. 5 year old S4? What mods does it have? There are S4s out there running much faster times.
I’m the M3 owner. You can see on the roll we were even - His car is really quick but has a lot of lag from the turbo it’s hard to time it with the countdown to be in boost. He is on a TTE turbo it’s a great matchup 👊
The S4 was wildly inconsistent here - either driver or car problems. Roll race #2 was about what to expect. Swapping drivers is a bad idea for consistency.
That s4 was literally fbo with tune and meth. M340i a tune/downpipe
@@laurent36 what tune? What other mods? I just don't think anyone was surprised that your car outperformed.
@@midlifemods Says in the vid, it’s tuned by YD motorsports with fbo and tte710 turbo. The roll race when we were even is what happens when we both get a good start and he is in boost
Dude in the S4 took his foot off the brake after the M3 launched in Drag Race 2
That s58 in that M3, is a monster. That's only a tune.
Props to the M340i .... Damn good value for money
5:24 the shock on his face
Absolutely wild how much difference even a 10th of a second can do
Reaction time is what makes the real difference.
Wonder if the S4 driver was launching correctly.
Should be putting better times that that down.
My Stage 2 with basic bolt ons on 91 octane and 2,000+DA runs a 3.6 0-60 and mid to high 11s. With ~400whp and 460wtq.
Same basic bolt ons and a simple swith to E85 is ~430whp and 530wtq and its low 3s 0-60 and low 11s 1/4 full weight.
A stage 3 car with a Pure750 or TTE810 is mid to low 10s and should be ahead of that G80.
Since hes claiming those power figures in that S4 on 94, hes running a hybrid turbo, and should be much quicker than my Stage 2 stock turbo.
Same race again but taking out the S4 and putting in the Tuned TTRS that was recently on the channel
Those b58’s the real deal
moral of the story is always buy bmw
I was hoping to see what can s4 do from a dig,unfortunately that bugged down so bad
It’s an Audi what do you expect 😁
That S4 🔥🔥😮💨
Let me start by not taking anything from those BMWs absolutely amazing cars especially to the way they are and they really smoked it. That being said plenty of guys with the same hardware that as far as running have run low threes to high twos and zero 60 I was watching him make so many shifting mistakes with the paddle shifters that are relying on the automatic transmission like the other two were doing and he was slow off the line every time Get it together!
Brother I insisted you to make drag race video between m 240i vs m2 vs m4 .
u have to wait atleast 3-4 seconds for your s4 turbo to spool during launch. not 1-2 seconds, its like half as effective
The G80 is no joke man!! Main reason why it’s my dream car 😍
Nice
First time I ever seen anyone with same hood as me
that m3 is a beast🔥
So if the m3 was stock it would be a different scenario. That is impression on the m340i with a tune.
I bought a 540i a week ago and it has the gen 1 b58 but it’s around the same weight as the 2020 m340i so if I upgrade the gen 1 to a gen 2 TU pump with a stage 2 tune and a dp and an xhp stage 3 would I be pushing around the same numbers and time?
Very close to it, yet still heavier. Definitely get lighter wheels and if you have run flats ditch those and get Michelin PS4s, much better and lighter tire, and reacts quicker.
@@Eddy-09 yeah my car did come with run flats I think I’ll definitely get some ps4s but they are like $1600 for all 4 tires so I’m gonna have to start saving up
Very close but you’ll be heavy so weight reduction will be needed but definitely
I did 11,9 on my s5 b8,5 just on stage 1+ and stock tcu 450 brake hp. It’s pretty weak for 530whp that close to 600 brake hp.
Agree. My b8.5 S4 with 93 Stage 1 tune and an intake ran 12.06@ 113.5. With two kid seats in the back. I swapped to the 340i now though for b58 deliciousness.
S4 definitely has more than just an intake an tune. An intake an tune on an S4 wouldn’t even make 400whp, needs upgraded turbo to break into the 500whp+ category
Have to spend way more money on mods and still can’t keep up with BMW 😂
Why do you keep giving the Audi to the slow drivers? And that dude in the M340i has either got the quickest reactions of everyone else, or he doesn't a tad early. Because it's obvious the M3 and S4 are quicker. Yet he always jumps off the line way ahead of them. Mhmm. Curious.
B58 is single turbo and higher low end tq. The spool is quick and tq available immediately.
that new m3 is so fast jesus