You lay out your videos very, very well. Very thorough and very informative. I just ordered more of a budget lens; Svbony SV190 flat field 20mm, but this was a very informative watch. The reviews I've seen on the 109 are quite well as well. Fits my budget! Thanks for sharing.
The reviewed eyepiece appears to have exactly same specs and looks as the Celestron Ultimate Edge 24 mm, which I own. Would bet they are manufactured by the same company. Thanks for the review!
Love your videos...very helpful, well made, easy to follow. I ended up buying this eye piece after watching your video. It checked all the boxes i was looking for in an eye piece from FOV to $$$
I always look forward to getting a notification that you have posted new content on CZcams. I think you produce some of the most useful and interesting astronomical info on CZcams. Once again, you do not disappoint. The APM 24 mm ultra flat field eyepiece is quite interesting. I particularly like it’s 29 mm eye relief. Except in the areas you point out the APM seems to compare quite favorably to the Televue panoptics. The APM 24 mm seems to be reasonably priced. Do you know if it is readily available in the U S? Thanks for sharing your knowledge Bogdan. I very much appreciate all the time and effort you put into the production of this video. Thank you sir.
@edf2953 Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my videos. The APM 24mm should be available in the US as well. There are a couple of shops that sell it online like eyepiecesetc.com
The 2" version looks almost identical to the Orion Ultra Flat Field eyepieces (24mm). Very similar characteristics as well: 65' FOV, 8 lens elements, 29mm eye relief, fully multicoated.
331 grams= 12 oz and that's heavy for a 1.25 eyepiece for sure. I don't need a 24mm EP, but these are intriguing. I am looking for a moderately priced 10mm to 15mm and they have both. The 10mm is $119, but finding them in stock is a problem. Made in Germany is a selling point to me as I'm trying to avoid made in China. Not easy to do in telescope optics with reasonable prices. I just received my first APO refractor, a 102mm Explore Scientific triplet carbon fiber OTA. I had asked my son for the moderately priced Astro-Tech 80mm ED that was only 339 USD, but he bought the ES triplet instead because the saleswoman told him that to be a true APO it has to be a triplet and 102mm was better than 80mm (cuz bigger= better🤣), plus it was on sale.
@MountainFisher Well, that is one way to get an APO refractor 😅 The one you got should be excellent. Let me know how you like it once you get the chance to test it.
@@BogdanDamian I used the 19mm Luminos and at 37x looking at Antares with M4 in the fov is very nice from a Bortle 2 sky. I decided to look at Zeta2 Scorpii in the right lower corner of the Scorpius hook and acquired a view of NGC6231 above the two stars, the giant red Zeta2 Scorpii and blue Zeta1 Scorpii. The stars were magnificent and then I took the 19mm out and put the 2" Luminos 2.5x Barlow to look at the NGC6231 star cluster and at 94x the star's colors showed up very sharp. Then pointed the scope at M4 and the individual stars were easily discernible around the edges at 84x. Antares looked every bit the giant red sun it is. Looked at several globular clusters and the Ptolemy Cluster M7 and M6 the Butterfly Cluster. My son and I spent the better part of the night just looking at and around Scorpius. The scope was very sharp and bright.
Is the APM Uff 30mm worth getting over the Omegon SWAN 32mm? I initially was going to get the SWAN but on your video someone commented that the APM is far better and worth the increase in price. Now I was basically just waiting until the start of July when the APM is back in stock, so this video was a welcome surprise. Is there a big difference in image quality between the two?
@hughmungus1572 I haven't tested the 30mm UFF, but even if it's anything like the 24mm, I wouldn't say that it's far better than the 32mm SWAN. The FOV of the APM is a bit flatter but the one of the SWAN is sharper especially around the edges. Contrast and brightens should be similar. The viewing experience should be a bit better on the SWAN thanks to the longer eye relief and better eye guard. Keep in mind that the SWAN is also 70 bucks cheaper than the APM. Anyway, since I haven't tested the 30mm APM, take everything with a grain of salt. I'll try and test the 30mm APM in the future so see exactly how good it is. Clear skies!
It would depend on the F-Ratio of your scope. The SWAN is a simple/cheap 5-element Erfle design and notoriously bad in fast f-ratio scopes(6 and below).. I'm not sure why Bogdan keeps hyping this eyepiece up. Its rebadged by several companys and optically identical to the MeadeQx, Agena SWA, Swan series. Etc.. The APM is 9 elements and specifically designed to correct the aberations present in the simple erfle design(astigmatism, field curvature). F8 and above there would be noticable but little differance, F6 and below would be worlds apart.
Hallo Bogdan, ich finde deine Videos super. Die Aufmachung, deine fachliche Expertise, sehr sympathisch. Danke für deine Mühe :) Über ein Video speziell über Binoansätze und welche Okulare du dazu empfiehlst würde ich mich freuen!
Can you recommend what eyepieces to use to look at Orion Nebula with an 8 inch dob.I have 20mm svbonny 9mm tmb and 30mm 2 inch stellalyra! I also have a svbonny 3x barlow!as you can tell I’m a novice thanks
@Stephen-gp8yi The 30mm you have should be pretty decent already for the Orion nebula. You could get in a bit closer with a 24mm or 26mm eyepiece like the 24mm APM Ultra Flat Field or the 26mm 2" from Svbony. The 24mm 82° from Explore Scientific would also be a good choice.
@oninoyakamo Yes, I sent the Hyperion back after testing. But having looked through both, I can say that the contrast and brightens are on the same level on both eyepieces. The Hyperion is a bit sharper, especially around the edges of the FOV. APMs FOV is a bit flatter than the Hyperion's. The eye relief of the Hyperion is considerably shorter than in the case of the APM, which makes the APM the eyepiece between these two with the better viewing experience.
@@BogdanDamian Groovy, thanks Bogdan! Do you have a review planned for the SV503? I've a Lunt ED80 with similar specs to their 80mm. It saw more use while I still had my backache scopes, but now that I've recently downsized it's having trouble competing with now more compact options at hand
I'm sorry that this question was from one of your 2 yr old uploads. I just purchased a Celestron 10" Dobsonian. I know you said an F6 and up was the best or your going to need a better magnification. This is my first telescope and I bought a 1.25 & 2 Celestron optic set. With that said, I'm reading up and trying to learn as I know that will improve my knowledge. In the meantime, if I wanted to view the planets and deep space (as much as I can), what do you recommend for say two scopes? I really appreciate your time and effort that you put into these videos.
@letsgobrandon5858 First of all, congratulations on your new telescope. That's a great Dob! I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. What do you mean with "for two scopes"? You mean a second scope recommendation to go alongside the new 10" dob?
@@BogdanDamian Sorry for any confusion. I guess what I meant to say is if you had to pick two eye pieces , one for the stars/moon and the other for deeper space what would you pick? Do you prefer 1.25 or 2? Thanks again 😜
@letsgobrandon5858 No worries 🙂 For planets/moon a 1.25" eyepiece like the DeLite from Tele Vue or 82° from Explore Scientific would be great. Depending on the magnification you want to obtain and if you have a Barlow, look at 5, 7 or 9mm focal lengths. As for DSOs, a 32mm SWA from Omegon would work very well. Alternatively you could go for a 30mm 82° from Explore Scientific. Hope this helps.
Sorry to bother you again but was thinking of buying some starguider eyepieces as if you buy the full set you get a reasonable discount but don’t want to commit if they are not very good.They sell for around 50 pounds and was wondering what the quality is like compared with celestron and svbony eyepieces.also what would be a good filter to get for planets?I have a moon filter but would like some advice.I have a stellalyra 8 inch dobsonian.thanks bogdan✌️
@Stephen-gp8yi No worries. Sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the Starguider eyepieces yet so I can't comment on the quality. But in my opinion it is better to invest in a single decent eyepiece than in a mediocre set. Maybe you can test the Starguider set and if you don't like it, you can return it? Regarding filters for planets, you could try out a set of 4 colored filters if you want. It won't improve the views dramatically, but you might get some more details out at the expense of color information. I have a couple of videos on filters you might want to check out.
@bcrocks3935 In terms of contrast and brightness both are on the same level. The Hyperion is however a bit sharper, especially around the edges of the FOV. APMs FOV is a bit flatter than the Hyperion's. The eye relief of the Hyperion is considerably shorter than in the case of the APM, which makes the APM the eyepiece with the better viewing experience.
@@BogdanDamian I'm LOVING my 24 Hyperion. I'm not a glasses wearer and the eye relief doesn't seem a full 3mm less than the other Hyperion's I have, the 10 and 17. Thank you again for your time and input, it helped me make a good decision.
Got a pair of APM 25 x 100ED binos, they a superb optic, can't say enough about them.
You lay out your videos very, very well. Very thorough and very informative. I just ordered more of a budget lens; Svbony SV190 flat field 20mm, but this was a very informative watch. The reviews I've seen on the 109 are quite well as well. Fits my budget! Thanks for sharing.
The reviewed eyepiece appears to have exactly same specs and looks as the Celestron Ultimate Edge 24 mm, which I own. Would bet they are manufactured by the same company. Thanks for the review!
They are
Love your videos...very helpful, well made, easy to follow. I ended up buying this eye piece after watching your video. It checked all the boxes i was looking for in an eye piece from FOV to $$$
I always look forward to getting a notification that you have posted new content on CZcams. I think you produce some of the most useful and interesting astronomical info on CZcams. Once again, you do not disappoint. The APM 24 mm ultra flat field eyepiece is quite interesting. I particularly like it’s 29 mm eye relief. Except in the areas you point out the APM seems to compare quite favorably to the Televue panoptics. The APM 24 mm seems to be reasonably priced. Do you know if it is readily available in the U S? Thanks for sharing your knowledge Bogdan. I very much appreciate all the time and effort you put into the production of this video. Thank you sir.
@edf2953 Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my videos. The APM 24mm should be available in the US as well. There are a couple of shops that sell it online like eyepiecesetc.com
The 2" version looks almost identical to the Orion Ultra Flat Field eyepieces (24mm). Very similar characteristics as well: 65' FOV, 8 lens elements, 29mm eye relief, fully multicoated.
all made in the same place, APM, bresser, orion, ts optics, etc etc
@@wrighty338 And on back-order for months now, at least some models. :|
331 grams= 12 oz and that's heavy for a 1.25 eyepiece for sure. I don't need a 24mm EP, but these are intriguing. I am looking for a moderately priced 10mm to 15mm and they have both. The 10mm is $119, but finding them in stock is a problem. Made in Germany is a selling point to me as I'm trying to avoid made in China. Not easy to do in telescope optics with reasonable prices.
I just received my first APO refractor, a 102mm Explore Scientific triplet carbon fiber OTA. I had asked my son for the moderately priced Astro-Tech 80mm ED that was only 339 USD, but he bought the ES triplet instead because the saleswoman told him that to be a true APO it has to be a triplet and 102mm was better than 80mm (cuz bigger= better🤣), plus it was on sale.
@MountainFisher Well, that is one way to get an APO refractor 😅 The one you got should be excellent. Let me know how you like it once you get the chance to test it.
@@BogdanDamian I used the 19mm Luminos and at 37x looking at Antares with M4 in the fov is very nice from a Bortle 2 sky. I decided to look at Zeta2 Scorpii in the right lower corner of the Scorpius hook and acquired a view of NGC6231 above the two stars, the giant red Zeta2 Scorpii and blue Zeta1 Scorpii. The stars were magnificent and then I took the 19mm out and put the 2" Luminos 2.5x Barlow to look at the NGC6231 star cluster and at 94x the star's colors showed up very sharp.
Then pointed the scope at M4 and the individual stars were easily discernible around the edges at 84x. Antares looked every bit the giant red sun it is. Looked at several globular clusters and the Ptolemy Cluster M7 and M6 the Butterfly Cluster. My son and I spent the better part of the night just looking at and around Scorpius. The scope was very sharp and bright.
Is the APM Uff 30mm worth getting over the Omegon SWAN 32mm? I initially was going to get the SWAN but on your video someone commented that the APM is far better and worth the increase in price. Now I was basically just waiting until the start of July when the APM is back in stock, so this video was a welcome surprise. Is there a big difference in image quality between the two?
@hughmungus1572 I haven't tested the 30mm UFF, but even if it's anything like the 24mm, I wouldn't say that it's far better than the 32mm SWAN. The FOV of the APM is a bit flatter but the one of the SWAN is sharper especially around the edges. Contrast and brightens should be similar. The viewing experience should be a bit better on the SWAN thanks to the longer eye relief and better eye guard. Keep in mind that the SWAN is also 70 bucks cheaper than the APM. Anyway, since I haven't tested the 30mm APM, take everything with a grain of salt. I'll try and test the 30mm APM in the future so see exactly how good it is. Clear skies!
Massively better
SWAN is junk.
It would depend on the F-Ratio of your scope. The SWAN is a simple/cheap 5-element Erfle design and notoriously bad in fast f-ratio scopes(6 and below).. I'm not sure why Bogdan keeps hyping this eyepiece up. Its rebadged by several companys and optically identical to the MeadeQx, Agena SWA, Swan series. Etc.. The APM is 9 elements and specifically designed to correct the aberations present in the simple erfle design(astigmatism, field curvature). F8 and above there would be noticable but little differance, F6 and below would be worlds apart.
Hallo Bogdan, ich finde deine Videos super. Die Aufmachung, deine fachliche Expertise, sehr sympathisch. Danke für deine Mühe :) Über ein Video speziell über Binoansätze und welche Okulare du dazu empfiehlst würde ich mich freuen!
Danke Janick! Freut mich, dass dir die Videos gefallen. Ein umfangreiches Video über Binoviewers ist bereits in der Planung :)
@@BogdanDamian Super, danke, ich freue mich schon! 🎉😮
would love to get this eyepiece but the value isn't there when for just barely more money you can get the 30mm one.
Very nice review! Speaking of APM, still have the XWA series (13mm specifically) on your to-review list? 😄
@Roope00 Glad you like it! Yes, the XWA is still on the list 🙂
@@BogdanDamian Good to hear, looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it! I've been loving my 13mm XWA myself, it's my go-to.
A couple corrections. These are made by KUO and the 30mm is actually 70º apparent FOV
Can I fit 2 of these in binoviewer how big is it?
@FJano12 It depends on the bino, but it should work. The diameter at the widest point is about 50mm.
Can you recommend what eyepieces to use to look at Orion Nebula with an 8 inch dob.I have 20mm svbonny 9mm tmb and 30mm 2 inch stellalyra! I also have a svbonny 3x barlow!as you can tell I’m a novice thanks
@Stephen-gp8yi The 30mm you have should be pretty decent already for the Orion nebula. You could get in a bit closer with a 24mm or 26mm eyepiece like the 24mm APM Ultra Flat Field or the 26mm 2" from Svbony. The 24mm 82° from Explore Scientific would also be a good choice.
@@BogdanDamian thanks bogdan much appreciated ✌️
Hmm. Did you sell your 24mm Hyperion? Would have been nice to have had a comparison made with it
@oninoyakamo Yes, I sent the Hyperion back after testing. But having looked through both, I can say that the contrast and brightens are on the same level on both eyepieces. The Hyperion is a bit sharper, especially around the edges of the FOV. APMs FOV is a bit flatter than the Hyperion's. The eye relief of the Hyperion is considerably shorter than in the case of the APM, which makes the APM the eyepiece between these two with the better viewing experience.
@@BogdanDamian Groovy, thanks Bogdan! Do you have a review planned for the SV503? I've a Lunt ED80 with similar specs to their 80mm. It saw more use while I still had my backache scopes, but now that I've recently downsized it's having trouble competing with now more compact options at hand
@oninoyakamo Yes, there will be a full review of the SV503 coming up, but i need a bit of time to thoroughly test it.
@@BogdanDamian Curious what you think of it. Some say the versatility of a well-mounted 4" apo is all a person needs
I pronounce LZOS as "El Zoss" instead of L.Z.O.S, I don't know which one is right though, but mine definitely sounds cool.
👏👏👏👏
Brightness is tied to focal length
8mm will be brighter than higher power 6mm
I'm sorry that this question was from one of your 2 yr old uploads. I just purchased a Celestron 10" Dobsonian. I know you said an F6 and up was the best or your going to need a better magnification. This is my first telescope and I bought a 1.25 & 2 Celestron optic set. With that said, I'm reading up and trying to learn as I know that will improve my knowledge. In the meantime, if I wanted to view the planets and deep space (as much as I can), what do you recommend for say two scopes? I really appreciate your time and effort that you put into these videos.
@letsgobrandon5858 First of all, congratulations on your new telescope. That's a great Dob! I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. What do you mean with "for two scopes"? You mean a second scope recommendation to go alongside the new 10" dob?
@@BogdanDamian Sorry for any confusion. I guess what I meant to say is if you had to pick two eye pieces , one for the stars/moon and the other for deeper space what would you pick? Do you prefer 1.25 or 2? Thanks again 😜
@@letsgobrandon5858 Because your scope is 1200mm focal length, this video might help:
czcams.com/video/Xy6KHeDZ4P0/video.html
@letsgobrandon5858 No worries 🙂 For planets/moon a 1.25" eyepiece like the DeLite from Tele Vue or 82° from Explore Scientific would be great. Depending on the magnification you want to obtain and if you have a Barlow, look at 5, 7 or 9mm focal lengths.
As for DSOs, a 32mm SWA from Omegon would work very well. Alternatively you could go for a 30mm 82° from Explore Scientific. Hope this helps.
@@BogdanDamian I just came across you very informative video on low-high optics! Wow,l! Need to comb through all your videos. Thank you so much.
Hello, could you help me decide if I should get a 6.7 mm explore scientific 82 degree eyepiece or the 8.8 mm version?
Sorry to bother you again but was thinking of buying some starguider eyepieces as if you buy the full set you get a reasonable discount but don’t want to commit if they are not very good.They sell for around 50 pounds and was wondering what the quality is like compared with celestron and svbony eyepieces.also what would be a good filter to get for planets?I have a moon filter but would like some advice.I have a stellalyra 8 inch dobsonian.thanks bogdan✌️
@Stephen-gp8yi No worries. Sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the Starguider eyepieces yet so I can't comment on the quality. But in my opinion it is better to invest in a single decent eyepiece than in a mediocre set. Maybe you can test the Starguider set and if you don't like it, you can return it?
Regarding filters for planets, you could try out a set of 4 colored filters if you want. It won't improve the views dramatically, but you might get some more details out at the expense of color information. I have a couple of videos on filters you might want to check out.
@@BogdanDamian I didn’t realise that you’ve done a video on filters already thanks for replying✌️
What do you think of this vs the Baader Hyperion 24?
@bcrocks3935 In terms of contrast and brightness both are on the same level. The Hyperion is however a bit sharper, especially around the edges of the FOV. APMs FOV is a bit flatter than the Hyperion's. The eye relief of the Hyperion is considerably shorter than in the case of the APM, which makes the APM the eyepiece with the better viewing experience.
@@BogdanDamian Awesome! thanks you for your quick responses. Love the channel!
@@BogdanDamian sorry, just one more question. If you take eye relief out of the equation, would you still pick the APM?
@bcrocks3935 No problem at all. If I were to ignore the difference in eye relief, then I would choose the Hyperion over the APM.
@@BogdanDamian I'm LOVING my 24 Hyperion. I'm not a glasses wearer and the eye relief doesn't seem a full 3mm less than the other Hyperion's I have, the 10 and 17. Thank you again for your time and input, it helped me make a good decision.