That Did NOT Go As Planned
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2021
- We head off to some of the country's greatest backcountry runways, and run into weather at every turn.
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I've been flying since I was 16 and at age 19 flew around the world by myself in the same 1981 A36 Beechcraft Bonanza I still fly, becoming the youngest person ever to solo circumnavigate by aircraft.
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Thanks for showing your decision making process on those back country strips.
Yeah, this is great. Really great for us without a lot of experience. soaking it all up.
Need a bush plane!
If you have to question your decision, there is no question, Don't do it. Stay safe 👍
Good to see that you take safety seriously. Don't listen to the "want to/need to get there" devil whispering sweet danger into your mind.
Don't you remember him breaking the story of his friends crashing into the ocean, on purpose I believe.
@@AnarchyEnsues Owen was Matt's connection to that ditching. Shouldn't you be asking Owen what happened, he was there.
@@kvnkaveman it's pretty clear it was an intentional ditching.
@@AnarchyEnsues First thing, you crazies keep saying Matt was involved on another youtubers word. I'm just saying that Owen would be the one to ask about the ditching since he was there at the ditching. Secondly the Pilot in question that did the ditching is shady as hell and has pulled stupid stunts in the past, But you don't stick over 150k into a plane on upgrades you plan on destroying, and not even an attention seeking person would risk ditching into cold water on purpose and risk dying. The Pilots own words states that their were problems with the planes fuel system that should of been a red flag that something was wrong.
Good decision making! When I was with the Civil Air Patrol in Spokane I went out on too many search missions for those who took chances. None of those missions had good outcomes. That region is dangerous as hell with how fast situations can change as you experienced.
Again, good, safe decision making!
“Asking a lot considering we’re in a forest”
Owen-
Can't see the runway for the trees. Or however that saying goes. :)
What a series of great decisions. Awesome to hear the way two pilots talk their way through the process.
Excellent airmanship Matt. Think about how many situations have happened where the pilot chose to continue and gets into a situation that is catastrophic. The important lesson here is that you want to live to fly another day and making the right decisions to do that is something very valuable to share.
Ditto. Making the right call is often harder than making the wrong one.
I really enjoy watching the decision making process of everything yall are doing! Keep up the safe great work!
Matt has a good understanding oof density altitude and how it affects his aircraft. Good choice
With those small high altitude runways the only thing I think about is Scrappy from Mike.
That's build for those strips
That’s built for a mountain top. It doesn’t need a runway
AND....... SCRAPPY IS AIRBORNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scrappy is built for off-field/wilderness landings. Those fields are better suited for slower aircraft like C172/82's, PA-28's, Cubs, and so-on. A Bonanza is not a good airplane for mountain flying. It can't get slow enough to fly safely. Too close to the critical angle of attack at the approach speeds necessary to land safely.
Great video Matt.....love checking out those grass strips...and staying away from landing on them in the Bonanza....beautiful scenery...fun to see Owen driving a Ford instead of a Gulfstream. Lol
Owen flies a Gulfstream? What’s the story..?
Great CRM, Matt and Owen.
I live in McCall, ID. Cool to see you stopped by.
My day just got a whole lot better!!!!
Its great to follow your heading...
Runway without trees is like asking Owen not to pack 20 of the same shirts.
Time to invest in a Highlander or Kitfox Matt. So you can join in the back country fun and games. Cheers from Winnipeg.
You’re doing this to late in the day, you should get this all said and done by 10 o’clock in the morning. As for Indian creek it’s about as good as it gets in the back country, you land upstream takeoff down the Stream which is downhill. Johnson Creek is treated like a one-way airstrip you land upstream takeoff down stream also you do not take off towards the White House at the south end of the runway. Unless the winds are strong. Johnson Creek has a recommended standard operating procedure that should be read prior to operating in the area. You can find that on the Idaho airports map. That can be found in the App Store.
I thought the same..
why do you have to play with your phone when you have a second person on the flight deck?
or hand over controls?
@@MuffinCHeeler I know he was running performance numbers, however one should have good CRM and hand over controls.
In an airline environment this would be a big no no, even if on autopilot the PF would never go "heads down" like this without handing over control.
Just an advise from an airline pilot.
@@alpinepilot What you say makes no sense. Question: “How do you make out the pilot at a party?” Answer: “don’t worry he will tell you quick enough” 😊
However, back in the dates we used big ass A3 VFR Charts and a kneepad, nowadays its a phone / tablet / mobile GPS.
I bet my balls you have no clue what you’re talking about
Your advice is spot on ! 👍
@@alpinepilot Pilots under auto pilot can legally leave the cockpit with 1 pilot remaining and have his eyes off the front glass?
Pilots on a daily basis fly IFR using iPads and always look down at their devices.
Not a big no no.
Matt, it's fun to see you in the neighborhood. Our cabin is at Pistol Creek. Indian Creek is a Forest Service Guard Station so the runway is federally maintained. They bring Caravans and DC3's in there. Generally landings are done upstream and takeoffs are down stream. Note if you're taking off up stream at Indian Creek be aware that Pistol Creek is take off down stream and landing upstream with NO GO AROUND. Once on short final you are committed. An respect above all else, "Denisity Altitude". It's probably the number one killer in the Back Country. So God Bless and keep the greasey down. Scott Pecora
Beautiful country flying.
Great Video Matt!!
Amazing thought process caught on camera. Flying within safe limits, instead of flying for viewership.
Many would have had a bad case of "get-there-itus" and ignored that nagging voice that is telling you it's out of your plane's capability or your own limits. Good on you for listening to that voice telling you to keep movin' on. I know your plane is above average on rough fields compared to other GA aircraft, but not a true bush plane. Especially with the density altitudes and wind you're experiencing. Those are best left to the Carbon Cubs and Maule's.
As previously mentioned, you need another type of aircraft for those missions. Husky or Piper Cub would do. I like the Husky because you get high performance when you need it or STOL. Just a thought.
Mike Patey's Scrappy 😋👍
@@MrLong-pe3cm you can land a C130 on an aircraft carrier but you better know your math and hope for the best possible conditions. Point being use the right equipment for the job. Lol
No trees ! That's what you get for flying back country Idaho. Good video.
As usual good video, where’s the right seat, miss her… your flight to Fargo in 20 for a date night, gave me ideas on short hop date night for the right seat. Stay safe from home base Aberdeen, SD
Cool video. Those z-cams look like they need much beefier mounts to remove the shake from them.
Excellent airmanship Matt - loved the way you inspected those high alt mtn strips in order to make informed decisions... and when not sure, taking a 2nd look... a great example to all! Cheers from UK / Andy
Anyone else get nervous at Matt fumbling on his phone in a climbing turn through a narrow valley? 😮
no
Yeah, had to cringe a bit there! Too bad his plane doesn't have dual controls I guess.
he had an extra set of eyes
It’s Nice to see some conservative decision making.
Great video. I see you have great skills. People new to the channel probably don't realize. Matt flew around the world solo. At the time he was the youngest person to accomplish this. I think someone beat his record. More people have been to outer space. Than solo circumnavigated the planet.
Hey Matt - how do you feel about mountain flying with tip tanks - any issues, or are there things you do / avoid?
Excellent, go with your gut
It's only a matter of time before this guy stuffs it in. Grimaced when the phone came out whilst flying up a valley.
The phone made me nervous
Yep, only a matter of time.
He uses the mobile instead of an iPad. All his flying apps are on his mobile.
@@igclapp yeah whatever he uses you shouldn't be heads down in a valley. Ipad, mobile, whatever.
Getting in is often easy…it the out that can bite if not well analyze!
The second spot I would have landed the bonanza in without any doubt. I’ve probably done a little more back country though.Better safe than sorry playing with density altitude live to fly another day
Indian Creek! Love that spot 🤙🏻
First rule, land upstream, depart downstream. Money spent in McCall would have served you better at McCall Mountain Flying School, instead of pizza. Especially if you’re going to base in the mountains. What was your plan when the NORDO cub comes around the corner and you’re doing 150 kts in a valley on the wrong side of the canyon? Don’t let your fans fool you into thinking your ADM is up to snuff in this instance. A little humility would serve you well. Most of the time, barring the crash set up, your videos are good and sometimes informative.
Yes. Lessons.
Oop.
Yup. We see this sort of thing all the time when flatlanders come to the mountains. The Sierras where I live are smaller than the mountains Matt is in, and are still full of aluminum. A mountain flying course would be well advised.
I got some great instruction in McCall in my first Super Cub. Bought it there with only a couple hours tailwheel time and stayed until a very competent local instructor said I was good to go. Money well spent and much learned. A month later flew home to Alaska from Tacoma, Wa. Great experience. Almost 30 years ago and much learned since. Even with my experience level now I would opt for some local instruction for the location. Mountain flying is better done looking out the window and doing calculation when researching destinations prior to departure. Also a good idea to slow on down to get a good look at landing area even if it takes longer. You are going to miss a lot @ 170. Enjoy your new home and fly safe.
Windy, but you make landing look easy.
Hometown Pizza. There's a franchise with that name around here in Kentucky.
Living the life ma… safely crushing it, respect
I would love to see you do a video in the hondajet like you and Rich did with the M2. It would be great to get your opinion on the two.
Those strips looked pretty hairy. Glad you guys made the tough decision to play it safe. Not worth it! Great video.
Hey Matt! What were you using on your phone mid flight to calculate your takeoff data with? Is there an app?
I wondered what that app at 8:47 was too.
Flatlander good call , Knowing your limitations
Where's Rachel? Haven't seen her for a while.
Looks like they broke up, he’s got that new girl sitting right seat now.
Cool video. I know what your next plane will be. Something with 31" bush tires :)
Owning a V35B and a Super Cub, it's all about having the right tool for the job. A STOL aircraft like a Super Cub is what you need for those strips. Yes a Bo can do it in the right hands on the right day, but .... it's kinda like using a wrench as a hammer. It'll work, but it's not gonna be pretty. Get a cub if you want to get into those strips. It's some of the best fun you can have!
Scott quite agree, being able to shoot an awesome IFR approach to minimums is a great skill set . Get in a Cessna 180 or supercub ... and spend hours finding what they can do on backcountry strips is another thing.
Full send!
Welcome to mountain flying. Prime time is early morning. When it's afternoon all bets are off with weather and density altitude during summer.
What cameras are you using now Matt? Great video
Thanks for the videos Matt. You made the right choice to abort the mud strips. Be dam careful every time you get in the plane now that you live in the mountains. Mountains, Weather, winds and density altitude and the usual get there itus can all combine to make a very bad day. If something doesn't look right turn around and go home or to your alternate, no shame in that. We see far too many general aviation accidents here in AK when most or nearly all of them could have been avoided.
9:19 "Gonna show 'em a little trick I learned!"
You need a Kitfox for those back country runways.
Great videos! Just a little late posting them haha. There hasn’t been snow in months around Challis, ID and Mcall, it's all smoke from the wildfires now.
Thanks for sharing. What was the traffic at 14:30? Seems to whisk by fast?
The Baron
Question for pilots:
When you fly above terrain like this (with forests, mountains ect.) do serious complications with your aircraft mean you're definitely gonna die? Or do you plan your routes, in case of an emergency?
Planning is really important, you know in advance where a suitable landing area is situated, but when it happens, the most important part is reacting fast to reach best glide speed and looking for flat surface , if there is.
that opening clip was kinda freaky
X Cub baby!
Not sure an A36 Bonanza would be my first choice of aircraft to be taking into mountain strips. Not sure it would be on the list of aircraft I'd be willing to take up there. I'd want to take a much slower high performance airplane like a 182 with VG's and STOL kit. I'd also want to be on final approach before about 11AM. You're going to have a bad time getting into those Idaho strips in the middle of the day.
Everyone says bush plane, but I'm over here thinking like Jeremy Clarkson. POWERRRRR
When are you going to do the house tour? Lol so cool living in an airpark.
Those were some Han Solo style Millennium Falcon manoeuvres! 🤙🏼
Great video 😍😱
When in doubt.. chicken out. Nice call to pass on that first landing.
Did one of your down lock microswitches unseat at 13minutes 40 seconds, and give you an in-transit light, or were you holding a lamp test switch?
Is the video here on youtube that you referenced in this regarding the thunderstorms? I believe you showed a snippet of radar footage from it. Can't find it. Thank you!
Did you watch the video? The concern was storms around Jackson near the end of the video.
@@KyleNobes what? I specifically said what video was he referring to. Did you watch the video? He specifically stated it was eerily familiar and then played some audio and playback of radar from that instance. @ around 16:35
@@josephwilliamcosta I see what you're asking. That is from his "Flying Through Severe Turbulence" video.
@@KyleNobes Thank you so much!
As soon as she said "for TikTok" you could start to smell the age difference.
And when he microwaved French toast.
…just post on TikTok for collection of information for Chinese Government.
Please acquire the Fly Idaho book.
Welcome to the mountains boys
Great decision making, Matt! Thanks for sharing 😊
Poor Owen :-)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jackson is a reasonably large airport that has instrument approaches. Couldn't you pick up a pop up IFR to get in?
Very windy and turbulent to cross the mountains between Driggs and JAC when there's weather.
Oh amazing video nice day to fly . thanks for sharing video Matt is really fantastic Love it
What I learned from you is that do not push the boundary of an airplane. Thanks
Love the PDM Matt! I believe you've probably saved a few accidents and lives here!
Matt needs a bush plane.
I don't know why, but I REALLY don't like glass cockpits. I like my gauges, in cars as well.
As I said in the last vid... time for another airplane! Way too many small strips around there....
Those beech door are really picky when you close them just remember aviate first
Dang them fancy REDs. I’m scared of the data volume you must deal with.
“Its good fun”. I bet it is.
Hi Matt. What do you do if you lose your engine at the 7:00 mark?
Land on the river
Who says you need a Kitfox to do back country flying!
Any reason for not picking up IFR into Jackson?
YIKES, seeing those two get close at 4:35 just put in my mind when a HS friend lost his life. Corey Sawtelle, 20 years of age. It's funny how we remember things. My brother and I were living in Northampton, MA back in 1989. Corey flew down from Silver Ranch, Jaffrey, NH, in a Bonanza to pick us up to visit family on Lake Monomonac. I took photos of our trip, one of which was Corey pretending to be in a panic while looking at the control panel, as if we were going to crash. A few months later, Corey was supposed to help my brother move to Boston; I got a call at work, my brother in tears telling me he was gone. He had been piloting with an instructor flying near the Connecticut River between NH and VT when they were struck by another small plane in the tail section. That pilot managed to land his plane on Interstate 91 in Vermont. They never did find Corey.
Yikes regarding your story. I took lessons at Tew-Mac in the 1980s, and Jaffrey was one of the trickier airports I visited. I now live near there, so I think I'll research the crash.
@@EfficientRVer Just found a court case about it CV-94-392-M Sawtelle vs. Farrell, my brother had told me he was a passenger, guess that was incorrect. He was piloting the aircraft...crash was May 21, 1989.
Hey Matt, have you ever considered Turbo Normalizing your Bonanza especially considering where you will be living now?
Nobody gonna talk about the barons door open?
Just saying.... i work and when i have extra i could fly here in Canada or Philippines.. but every day time i would like do... Maybe I should get a you 2 page..
Looks like Matt will need to upgrade to at least a twin engine for his new home in the high altitude and mountains soon!
A twin is not a good choice for backcountry strips. Kodiak would be ideal.
The Bonanza is versatile enough to fit a variety of Matt's different needs and, besides, it has circumnavigated,, so its a legendary airplane.
No doubt Owen was keen on finding bears nibbling wild berries along the remote strips.
When I think back country forget super Cubs and Huskies. I think Bonanza!
Why does that formation rejoin sound/look like every rendezvous with a tanker!?!? And the best planning is done at ground speed zero. Pilot math doing anything faster is bound to induce 50% error.
No argument that planning on the ground is best but here they need to do run the numbers while flying because the situation changed. Notice however that he did it out loud for his co- to hear, he padded the numbers to add margin and he was going to "run it again". And even after getting an answer that should have been a go he still waived himself off. I would fly with this guy!
Matt - at 13:09 into this on taxi you're entering frequencies or something on the top 750, you then get an audio confirmation that the terrain system test OK. Did you provoke that and if so how? Ive yet to figure out a way to test the audio alerts from the 750 to my audio panel and headset without them genuinely coming on in flight. Which is rare as where I am I fly high and ADS-B is not mandatory.
I read the manual and found these tests, there are a few of them.
Reds horse ranch is a cool strip
Dat Baron tho....
Their reluctance and indecisiveness makes me nervous
We need more passive aggressive Owen forced to drive somewhere content
Oh just wait
@@mattguthmiller waiting with bated breath