Come on man. First off the BrahMos is a export version of the Russian Onyx. Out performs it in every category. Secondly the khinzal is also better then all these other's except zircon. It has a 1500+km range. The zircon has a 1000-1500km range both hypersonic maneuvering. Also the American missiles both have a shorter range then 500km there subsonic and nothing is totally invisible. Russia shooting down stealth storm shadows is a example. We are disastrously behind in middle technology. Just the fact that we are out ranged by 2-3 times should be enough.
No we still don’t have any actual evidence of what type of weapon sunk the Moskva. Ukraine said it was there Neptune but in the early days there were other stories about what sank him.
@@robertschultz6922 Hence questioning his statement that it was NSM. It was announced that it was Neptune. He offers no evidence that it was NSM. Could it have been an Argentine Exocet that has circled the globe, looking for its missed target for the last 40 years, rather the NSM? There is equal evidence for either.
Yes why the disinformation?? The Moskva was hit by two R-360 Neptune, which are heavily modified KH-35s, modernized by Ukraine, they entered service in 2021. No source in the west has announced any other theory as to which missile was used.
Officially, but - and this is just speculation - finding Moskva with just byraktar would have been hard. Using that information to accurately launch two Neptune missiles would have been harder. Having those two missiles hit Moskva when she had multiple ways of dealing with them is just short of unbelievable. Considering there was a p-8 floating around 2 NSMs would make everything a lot easier to digest.
Why would they use a US supplied missile when they have a very capable one, and it would be easy for russia to pick up the electronic signature of the NSM .The russians would then know both that they had been attacked with a NATO missile AND they would have had recorded the seekerhead of the NSM,..The latter is the real reason no current block advanced missile has been sent by the US to Ukraine, and the amraams for the F16 will be older models. And, they allready had a suitable missile.@@amedv
@@henrikstolpeIts not particularly capable, Moskva had multiple layers of defence against it. Moskva sunk and most/all? drowned. There's not much useful information if they didnt even detect them.
None of you seem to know anything about ASMs. Neptune is not a copy of KH-35, which is not a copy of Harpoon, which has nothing to do with Exocet. Missiles are similar because engineers in different countries come up with the same solutions to the same problems. Just because Neptune, KH-35, and Harpoon are all subsonic turbofan-powered low level antiship cruise missiles doesn't mean any of them copied one of the others. You may as well say they were all copies of the V-1, or the Airbus 380 is just a copy of the Wright Flyer.
Both Brahmos and CX-1 have their origin in Russian anti-ship missiles. That's why they are alike. CX-1 didn't copy India's Brahmos. They both copied Russia instead.
Bro India and Russia both made brahmos (Brahmaputra river and Moskova river) Thats how the name brahmos came about and they have been developing brahmos since 2001 - it has more kinetic energy than tomahawk - designed to defeat american steel
@@dravenvea2605 Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes) India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link) Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5 Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it oops Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
I think you have NSM confused with Neptune hitting the Moskva. If it wasn’t Neptune harpoon was the only other missile there with the range. It was declared it was Neptune by Ukraine. I’ve never heard NSM is in Ukraine.
Keep update yourself with latest information before any episode. Brahmos missile now has a range in excess of 300 miles which are under production & Brahmos-LR with a range of 400+ miles is now under testing.
I think the most interesting thing about the Qader is that when the cover is up, it looks just like a normal truck and would likely be extremely difficult to discriminate from civilian traffic.
Come on man. First off the BrahMos is a export version of the Russian Onyx. Out performs it in every category. Secondly the khinzal is also better then all these other's except zircon. It has a 1500+km range. The zircon has a 1000-1500km range both hypersonic maneuvering. Also the American missiles both have a shorter range then 500km there subsonic and nothing is totally invisible. Russia shooting down stealth storm shadows is a example. We are disastrously behind in middle technology. Just the fact that we are out ranged by 2-3 times should be enough.
@chefchaudard3580 u do know that russia has demonstrated hitting a moving target at 1000+km with the zircon. Our governments never denied this so good one. Do some research. But I know russia bad bunch of orcs good for nothing and so on
Speed defeats the purpose of stealth. Not only does it make a bigger and brighter infrared target, but also due to the Doppler shift it's more detectable by radar.
Im wondering how subs will cope when anti-torpedo weapons become more common place. If torps can be destroyed like anti-ship missiles. Subs just become glorified bomb trucks of the sea.
@@hughmungus2760 Or Anti-torpedo Torpedo weapons or how will the Anti Torpedo Weapon cope with multi warhead Torpedo released at depth under a ship like the old Anti Submarine Hedgehog :)
But even in Soviet times, no one was going to launch missiles one at a time. Moskit-type missiles (SS-N-22, Sunburn, ASM-MSS) were made for a group attack of several dozen units. Moreover, already in those ancient times they were network-centric and could exchange information about targets in flight.
@@MrDJAK777 Low IR signature just means it won't be seen 100km away by IRSTs but against a ship it'll still be easy to spot, especially against the relatively constant background temperature of the sea.
@@Real_Claudy_FocanCIWS uses radar too, plus the point is over saturation. You don't send one. You send as many that are needed. The point of delayed detection is making it so the number of missiles launched required to oversaturate a target is much less. Modern warships can track hundres to over a thousand objects in the sky. Just like missiles that fly a sea-skimming profile, they delay detection. Others choose to compress the time to target by making a faster missile
@@apolloaero stealth missiles are not invisible. Not even radar. They are LESS visible to radar. Remember the inverse square law. At CIWS distance, they are visible. If you are doing a sneak attack on a country you are not even at war with, then they wouldn't even be on alert and the CIWS isn't even on (to avoid shooting down things you shouldn't), then you are good. Otherwise, you calculate how many CIWS they have, how long it takes to down each missile, and send more than that number from multiple directions. And you can do that with non-stealth missiles as well. Brahmos cost about 1/500 of one US destroyer (just the bare ship, excluding the stuff loaded on it). China can just shoot off 200 of their clones all at once and still come out ahead.
Eh. The LRASM would be better if it were supersonic while keeping that stealth. Like if it had the speed of the YJ-12 but able to maintain it's stealth it'd easily be the deadliest anti ship missile around.
Looking forward to part 2. There are a number of other systems out there including a number of other Russian and Chinese subsonic, supersonic, and hypersonic worth covering.
Terminal speed of mach-10 my f**king ass. Nothing can travel at mach 10 that low down in the atmosphere without burning up. The YJ-21 has an actual terminal impact velocity of about mach 4-ish. That's just the physics of air resistance.
Brother, we need your opinion on Baltimore. I know you focus on military, but the impact this will have on the US beyond the life loss warrants your words.
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*Brahmos has a range depending on version* *Earlier brahmos were intentionally restricted to 290 kms but in reality today brahmos has a range of 450+ kms*
Don't forget the "Rapid Dragon" version of the LRASM. Also I think the 230 mile range is open to discussion. Don't forget the LRASM is based off the JASSM. There is also JASSM ER. My guess that LRASM is closer to 400 mile range
@@ZubairMojaddedi unless it were literally pitch black, low light cameras can see them coming. maritime Infrared cameras is generally good enough to see out to a dozen miles. They'd be pretty useless if they couldn't
@@hughmungus2760 well when the A50 was allegedly shot it was literally pitch black. But the claim wasn't confirmed, also no obituaries, which is usually how they get confirmed, by OSInt, if the parties don't document or confirm. Still having an AA version could explain being able to shot an S-band AWACs
@@ZubairMojaddedi A50 is plane, Planes don't have CIWS or missile defense, so even if it were able to see the missile coming it can't do anything about it.
A missile travelling at mach 8 would still take 10 minutes to travel 100 miles. A ship aware of the launch can change direction & move a long way in that time. At mach 8 it's not manoeuvring to any degree or have any seeking due to the plasma layer around.
Moskva was not hit by the NSM. Last I heard it was Russian cruise missiles modified locally by Ukraine. The other option given what Ukraine have had access to would be the British stealth missile (can't remember the name). Norway has yet to greenlight sales of any NSM weapons to Ukraine.
Hmm I wonder since the USAF was part of the development of the LRASM that it has an AA version/variant. And if that was the one that might have hit the A50 in the sea of Azov. According to reports the russians only discovered the missile that struck the A50 in the last few meters. And reportedly it increased its speed in the final final Fase and only that resulted in the discovery of the missile. So probally it was a very stealthy missile that took that plane out. A hypothetical missile like that might reintroduce AFT guns in large bombers/planes, until drones replace AWAC functions. Since Ai probally has the ability to differentiate flares from targets. A radar based aft gun might be able to stop a hypothetical missile like that
My guess with the anti-ship missile's ability to avoid jamming would be to simply turn off active radar when first detecting a jamming signal. That would enable the missile to continue on its trajectory without interference. There are several other ways of achieving the same result, but turning off active radar would be the easiest in my opinion, as an ex RAN 'greenie'. I definitely WOULDN'T want to be on a ship in today's Navy. They're getting close to obsolete.
Early Brahmos was mostly Russian, current brahmos is 75% indian, The avionics, fire control system, entire MCP (mobile command post), first stage of solid propellent, almost entire electronic systems and subsystems are indian (which gives brahmos incredible CEP- generations better than oniks), radar reciever and communication systems, only the current ramjet is made by NPO Mahinostroyenia, which is now replaced by indian ramjet which is 60% more fuel effecient and will be used in Brahmos NG. Also, it was india who was able to integrate the missile with aircrafts, something Russians could not do with Oniks, and now considering buying air launch brahmos from India, talk about "Russian engineering".. LOL :D Edit: its not "Bramos', its "Brahmos" atleast spell the damn thing right
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes) India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link) Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5 Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it oops Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
@@SPEARHEADGLOBAL U could say whatever bullshit you want but it's all Russian engineering. If India had the know-how why didn't they made it all by themselves 😆🤣😂 That's like saying someone building a building from the foundation, constructing everything else ,all u did was put on the rooftop but have people believing the building is yours
Why would you send out a bomber to launch an anti-ship missile? That seems needlessly risky. If, in the 21st century, you're sending out a bomber to attack naval targets at sea, just use low-yield tactical nukes and wipe out the entire fleet that's coming at you with one bomb. Why risk the bomber to take out just one ship in a fleet with one bomb?
So NSM reproduces the honourable error of the Argentines in the Falklands ? Going after the warships is not the best option when China -like the British- is using ferries / cruise ships as amphibious assault ships If Argentina had gone after Canberra or QE2 and hit either, there likely wouldn't have been a landing at all
The relationship between Russia, India, and The PRC fascinates me. I would think India would be hesitant to work with Russia on projects like the Bramos simply because that would give the PLA access to this data.
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes) India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link) Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5 Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it oops Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
@@tonykriss1594Im pretty sure Western countries would have no issue working with India since it's seen as a counter to the PRC. Japan, for example, is trying to promote itself as India's ally in the East Asian region to counter PRC dominance. Also, If India can land a spacecraft on the moon, I don't think its impossible for them to develop their own weapons without outside support. Where as Russia is way too close with the CCP, which allows the PRC to obtain weapons like the Bramos, that could be used against India. Just doesn't make sense to me.
Gotta say Aaron, this was a confusing video. The whole NSM-Moskva thing... unless you are privy to secret information that you normally don't divulge -- this information seems to be very wrong, calling in to question all the other statements in the video.
lol it ain’t simplified 😂 what are you smoking? It’s based on ONIX and has Indian software, navigation and components. Russian sold the onix fuel tech and the missile design but kept the ramjet tech. Thus Russia gets 49% royalties on all Brahmos sales made. However, since then the Russian components have been replaced with Indian components including the ramjet. Thus, many Indian missiles now have ramjet engines
@@pavelvladimirov2651 lol where did Russia get jet engine tech from in the early days? Why did soviet Russia reverse engineer American given plane engines during ww2 which later developed into their own version of engines? Why did Soviet Union continue to steal so many techs from west? Whom did Soviet Union steal nuclear tech from?Calm down and watch cartoon. You are just a hot headed young guy and want to dance around beating your chest like a child. World has had many powers and others who have borrowed from then to become next super powers. Wheel was invented by some and used by all. Don’t make yourself look like a joke by badmouthing about Russo-Indian relation and partnership. Save your excitement for war with Ukraine
@@alhkcblack9617 Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes) India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link) Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5 Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it :oops: Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes) India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link) Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5 Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it :oops: Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes) India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link) Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5 Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it :oops: Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
wait, so you included Brahmos but not Japan's supersonic ASM-3? ASM-3 also has same top speed (Mach 3) and range (at least in air-launced version) as Brahmos and the Chinese YJ-12 but unlike Brahmos or YJ-12, it is compact enough that F-2 (Japan's slightly enlarged F-16) can carry like 3 while for Brahmos massive Su-30 Flanker can carry only one in the belly ad the YJ-12 need the Xian H-6 bomber
CX-1 is for sale Because China possesses the world's most advanced wind tunnels, such as the JF-22, developing any aircraft is a breeze. This includes the ongoing failures of the United States' attempts to develop a series of hypersonic missiles.
Dude your statement claiming undetectablity is simply false. Not all wavelengths and radars are in the x band. WW2 radar can detect the f-35 why? If was not even designed to evade that wavelength. The normal search radars will have no trouble with seeing the return on the longer wavelength radars. Just getting a firing solution is more difficult.
The LRASM is absolutely NOT VLS capable. There was an attempt to make them VLS capable in the development phase but it was cancelled. The fundamental problem is, its physically too big to fit inside existing VLS tubes.
On 17 September 2013, Lockheed launched an LRASM Boosted Test Vehicle (BTV) from a Mk 41 VLS canister. The company-funded test showed the LRASM, fitted with the Mk 114 rocket motor from the RUM-139 VL-ASROC, could ignite and penetrate the canister cover and perform a guided flight profile.
The big difference between Russian and US/Western weapons. Planes ,missiles whatever is this. Russian equipment is often only capable of doing half of what is claimed. US/Western weapons most likely can do far more than what is claimed...
While I love advanced missile systems like LRASM, so much trust in too few failed in Ukraine. I hate it but I have to quote Stalin here "“Quantity has a quality all its own.” NATO must keep its production capacity to produce massive amount of stupid weapons like a moron sea skimming missile which can do Mach 4 which is cheap to produce, just in case.
Nice vid on the Anti ship missiles but I have my doubts about stealth technology. Nothing is a 100% undectable. I remember folks saying that the F-117 Stealth Fighter (Nighthawk) was invisable to radar!
It's not meant to make the missile undetectable. It's meant give the target as little warning as possible before impact. They are going to see it eventually but when they do you want the missile to be so close that they don't have time to react.
Brahmos is overrated. US Navy has been practicing against supersonic decoys for many years and has no trouble against them. What kills it for me is that it costs more than 3 times as a single LRASM as per recent Indian buys.
There's no superweapon. India's own Barak 8 has shot down Brahmos. But it’s still viable as most threats India face don't have the capabilities of the US Navy. Furthermore, it has an airlaunched version, so getting spare parts for them is easy.
@@dragonstormdipro1013if u understood how war was fought u would know when targeting u calculate how many missiles are need to guaranty a hit. Lots of math goes into war.
Crop irrigation hose, bit of elbow pipe and a heat source scaled to size will sink anything for practically pocket change. Add Orca contacted for some whale tongue if towing it under the ship needs sonar evasion or double the comedy.
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Come on man. First off the BrahMos is a export version of the Russian Onyx. Out performs it in every category. Secondly the khinzal is also better then all these other's except zircon. It has a 1500+km range. The zircon has a 1000-1500km range both hypersonic maneuvering. Also the American missiles both have a shorter range then 500km there subsonic and nothing is totally invisible. Russia shooting down stealth storm shadows is a example. We are disastrously behind in middle technology. Just the fact that we are out ranged by 2-3 times should be enough.
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I understood the Moskva was sunk by two Neptunes, not NSM. Surely this was a script mistake?
That's what I understand too... Unless he accidentally let slip some info one of his friends more in the know told him? lol
No we still don’t have any actual evidence of what type of weapon sunk the Moskva. Ukraine said it was there Neptune but in the early days there were other stories about what sank him.
that's why i'm here. love these slips :)@@bburrett
@@robertschultz6922 Hence questioning his statement that it was NSM. It was announced that it was Neptune. He offers no evidence that it was NSM. Could it have been an Argentine Exocet that has circled the globe, looking for its missed target for the last 40 years, rather the NSM? There is equal evidence for either.
@@bburrettI love Jive, but if you've been here long enough you'd know this was just another mistake and not some accidental 'leak' lmao
Fun fact : the name Brahmos is a combination of Brahmaputra and Moskva , two major rivers from the respective countries.
How do you know Moskva was hit by NSM? I understood it was struck by two Ukrainian-manufactured subsonic sea-skimmers.
Yes why the disinformation?? The Moskva was hit by two R-360 Neptune, which are heavily modified KH-35s, modernized by Ukraine, they entered service in 2021. No source in the west has announced any other theory as to which missile was used.
Allegedly. But how do you really know? Might as well be unofficially supplied land version of NSM.
Officially, but - and this is just speculation - finding Moskva with just byraktar would have been hard. Using that information to accurately launch two Neptune missiles would have been harder. Having those two missiles hit Moskva when she had multiple ways of dealing with them is just short of unbelievable.
Considering there was a p-8 floating around 2 NSMs would make everything a lot easier to digest.
Why would they use a US supplied missile when they have a very capable one, and it would be easy for russia to pick up the electronic signature of the NSM .The russians would then know both that they had been attacked with a NATO missile AND they would have had recorded the seekerhead of the NSM,..The latter is the real reason no current block advanced missile has been sent by the US to Ukraine, and the amraams for the F16 will be older models. And, they allready had a suitable missile.@@amedv
@@henrikstolpeIts not particularly capable, Moskva had multiple layers of defence against it.
Moskva sunk and most/all? drowned. There's not much useful information if they didnt even detect them.
If the Hoothis ever unite with the similarly dangerous Blowfish in the north then we will really be in trouble.
Oh but what about the Great China
I see what you did there ! 😂
Quality
Moskva was hit by Neptune missiles, copy of the Russian Kh-35 (SS-N-25)
Allegedly.
Neptune is a harpoon copy as is the Kh-35.
by that logic the harpoon is an Exocet copy
None of you seem to know anything about ASMs. Neptune is not a copy of KH-35, which is not a copy of Harpoon, which has nothing to do with Exocet.
Missiles are similar because engineers in different countries come up with the same solutions to the same problems. Just because Neptune, KH-35, and Harpoon are all subsonic turbofan-powered low level antiship cruise missiles doesn't mean any of them copied one of the others.
You may as well say they were all copies of the V-1, or the Airbus 380 is just a copy of the Wright Flyer.
3:40 "De-water the ship" - ha, I like that one. 😂
Both Brahmos and CX-1 have their origin in Russian anti-ship missiles. That's why they are alike. CX-1 didn't copy India's Brahmos. They both copied Russia instead.
Bro India and Russia both made brahmos (Brahmaputra river and Moskova river) Thats how the name brahmos came about and they have been developing brahmos since 2001 - it has more kinetic energy than tomahawk - designed to defeat american steel
He's not wrong tho.. Both are copies😅@@singatakberpura
@@dravenvea2605 Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes)
India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link)
Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter
Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5
Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it oops
Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
@@dravenvea2605 how it's a copy bro India and Russia jointly developed brahmos India has 51% of share in it
@@techlifemalayalam5385 anyway It's complete old Soviet technology. And We know how it sucks.
I think you have NSM confused with Neptune hitting the Moskva. If it wasn’t Neptune harpoon was the only other missile there with the range. It was declared it was Neptune by Ukraine.
I’ve never heard NSM is in Ukraine.
It’d be great if Ukraine had NSM but I don’t think they do.
Keep update yourself with latest information before any episode. Brahmos missile now has a range in excess of 300 miles which are under production & Brahmos-LR with a range of 400+ miles is now under testing.
I think the most interesting thing about the Qader is that when the cover is up, it looks just like a normal truck and would likely be extremely difficult to discriminate from civilian traffic.
Your zircon picture had a USAF logo on it. 😂
That's because it's a stock image of the hypersonic test vehicle they drop off a B52.
Think it's called dreamrider or something like that.
Come on man. First off the BrahMos is a export version of the Russian Onyx. Out performs it in every category. Secondly the khinzal is also better then all these other's except zircon. It has a 1500+km range. The zircon has a 1000-1500km range both hypersonic maneuvering. Also the American missiles both have a shorter range then 500km there subsonic and nothing is totally invisible. Russia shooting down stealth storm shadows is a example. We are disastrously behind in middle technology. Just the fact that we are out ranged by 2-3 times should be enough.
That one was obviously for the Indians.
the kinzhal isn't even an anti ship missile my bro. "we" don't lie mate your russian
Range makes no sense if you can’t detect and track the target. Longer range make sense only if you shoot at a static target.
@chefchaudard3580 u do know that russia has demonstrated hitting a moving target at 1000+km with the zircon. Our governments never denied this so good one. Do some research. But I know russia bad bunch of orcs good for nothing and so on
It’s very likely the Chinese model is also the Russian export version. Remember Russia has helped China with their missile systems before.
The deadliest anti ship missile would be one that combines the speed of the YJ-12 with the stealth of the LRASM.
That hypersonic speed usually means friction creates a big thermal signature that can be spotted far off.
Speed defeats the purpose of stealth. Not only does it make a bigger and brighter infrared target, but also due to the Doppler shift it's more detectable by radar.
C'mon Jive. Ships are just squiggles on a Sonar Waterfall Display waiting for an ADCAP :)
Im wondering how subs will cope when anti-torpedo weapons become more common place. If torps can be destroyed like anti-ship missiles. Subs just become glorified bomb trucks of the sea.
@@hughmungus2760 Or Anti-torpedo Torpedo weapons or how will the Anti Torpedo Weapon cope with multi warhead Torpedo released at depth under a ship like the old Anti Submarine Hedgehog :)
@@jamesohara4295 presumably the anti-torpedo interceptors would stop the torpedo some distance away from the ship.
@@hughmungus2760 At a depth of 4 kilometers?. explain.
@@jamesohara4295 Anti-torpedo interceptors don't really care about depth, they're powered and have their own built in sonars.
What about the Chinese YJ21? Which is Mach 10
That's a ballistic missile, the first VLS fired anti-ship ballistic missile so it's on its own level.
Hey Aaron I was looking into a sub disaster that didn’t have much info on it do you know anything about the Shch-117 disaster?
But even in Soviet times, no one was going to launch missiles one at a time. Moskit-type missiles (SS-N-22, Sunburn, ASM-MSS) were made for a group attack of several dozen units. Moreover, already in those ancient times they were network-centric and could exchange information about targets in flight.
I haven't seen anything in the public space regarding LRASM infrared stealth. I am very interested in reading up on this. Do you have a source?
Pretty much nothing but "Low IR signature design" is gonna be openly available
@@MrDJAK777 Low IR signature just means it won't be seen 100km away by IRSTs but against a ship it'll still be easy to spot, especially against the relatively constant background temperature of the sea.
Great video. I wish you would have talked about the LRASM.
He did?
@@MrDJAK777 Shhhhhh..... no, he didn't. ;)
The newest models of the Brahmos can hit targets across 800kms, just a smol correction
Awesome video btw
I love watching your videos! Keep up the great work. Bravo Zulu
I would honestly say LRASM... its flies low, its reasonable fast (even tho its subsonic) and its stealth
Until it's visually acquired, a good ol' CIWS "brrt" and it's gone
@@Real_Claudy_FocanCIWS uses radar too, plus the point is over saturation. You don't send one. You send as many that are needed. The point of delayed detection is making it so the number of missiles launched required to oversaturate a target is much less. Modern warships can track hundres to over a thousand objects in the sky. Just like missiles that fly a sea-skimming profile, they delay detection. Others choose to compress the time to target by making a faster missile
@@apolloaero stealth missiles are not invisible. Not even radar. They are LESS visible to radar. Remember the inverse square law. At CIWS distance, they are visible. If you are doing a sneak attack on a country you are not even at war with, then they wouldn't even be on alert and the CIWS isn't even on (to avoid shooting down things you shouldn't), then you are good. Otherwise, you calculate how many CIWS they have, how long it takes to down each missile, and send more than that number from multiple directions. And you can do that with non-stealth missiles as well. Brahmos cost about 1/500 of one US destroyer (just the bare ship, excluding the stuff loaded on it). China can just shoot off 200 of their clones all at once and still come out ahead.
Eh. The LRASM would be better if it were supersonic while keeping that stealth. Like if it had the speed of the YJ-12 but able to maintain it's stealth it'd easily be the deadliest anti ship missile around.
@@killman369547 perhaps like in terminal phase, but it might mess with its IIR seeker
Looking forward to part 2. There are a number of other systems out there including a number of other Russian and Chinese subsonic, supersonic, and hypersonic worth covering.
Moskva was sunk by Neptune sea skimmers, not NSM. Please put in a disclaimer at least.
love this intel
Sir ji brahmos range is now 800 km and speed has also been increased. Stealth coatings has also been developed and tested.
Brahmos is a BEAST for sure!
Interesting list and your opinion on the missiles. Maybe a top 15 is needed to include everything people think are top 5😂😂😂
so how about Chinese YJ-21? They said it could achive a terminal speed of 10 Mach and hit a target 900 miles away🤣
Terminal speed of mach-10 my f**king ass. Nothing can travel at mach 10 that low down in the atmosphere without burning up. The YJ-21 has an actual terminal impact velocity of about mach 4-ish. That's just the physics of air resistance.
Brahmos range has recently been increased to 700+ km
No RBS15 MK4 Gungnir?
Note to self: Don't get stoned while writing a script.
MBDA: "Am I a joke to you"?!?
Wow.
Wait....this is literally the first time I'm hearing the NSM was used in Ukraine.
Bramos is not Indian weapon, it's licensed copy of Yankot Russian weapon.
His comment on the the air force and navy I think is about procurement.
Pls do an update of Polish Swordfish frigates. I saw there are moves there and so far it is going smoothly.
I'm pretty sure a bunch of "internal" needs to be replaced with "inertial" to be correct. ;)
Regarding the LRASM, you forgot to mention "rapid dragon"
Brahmos is a copy of the Soviey P800 Oniks.
Brother, we need your opinion on Baltimore. I know you focus on military, but the impact this will have on the US beyond the life loss warrants your words.
good video also Netherlands has pick their next sub class to replace their old walrus subs class.
French shortfin barracuda attack class sub
first one be ready by 2033 last by 2037
names
1)orca
2 swordfish
3 barracuda
4 tigershark
Somehow I'm still more afraid of a Mk48 ADCAP
With anti-torpedo systems like the Paket-NK these might not be the threat they used to be anymore.
LRASM is also 🇦🇺. NSM is not available to 🇺🇦.
*Brahmos has a range depending on version*
*Earlier brahmos were intentionally restricted to 290 kms but in reality today brahmos has a range of 450+ kms*
Don't forget the "Rapid Dragon" version of the LRASM. Also I think the 230 mile range is open to discussion. Don't forget the LRASM is based off the JASSM. There is also JASSM ER. My guess that LRASM is closer to 400 mile range
First I heard that NSM was used against the Moskva?
Also you'd be surprised how effective electro-optical sensors are at seeing things. CWIS could probably deal with LRASMs since they're so slow.
Night time targeting? Infrared usually has shorter range
@@ZubairMojaddedi unless it were literally pitch black, low light cameras can see them coming.
maritime Infrared cameras is generally good enough to see out to a dozen miles. They'd be pretty useless if they couldn't
@@hughmungus2760 well when the A50 was allegedly shot it was literally pitch black. But the claim wasn't confirmed, also no obituaries, which is usually how they get confirmed, by OSInt, if the parties don't document or confirm.
Still having an AA version could explain being able to shot an S-band AWACs
@@ZubairMojaddedi A50 is plane, Planes don't have CIWS or missile defense, so even if it were able to see the missile coming it can't do anything about it.
Is 2024 already finished ? Why am I always the last to be told ?
Got to get to the target before you can destroy it 😀
@SubBrief When does your new video "Type 45 Daring Ship Brief" become available for all.? A week, a month, never.?
A missile travelling at mach 8 would still take 10 minutes to travel 100 miles. A ship aware of the launch can change direction & move a long way in that time. At mach 8 it's not manoeuvring to any degree or have any seeking due to the plasma layer around.
there was info that Moskva was hit by two british short range anti-ship missiles
Zircon has only been used on stationary land targets, it has never hit a moving maritime target.
You got a source to confirm this?
Moskva was not hit by the NSM. Last I heard it was Russian cruise missiles modified locally by Ukraine. The other option given what Ukraine have had access to would be the British stealth missile (can't remember the name). Norway has yet to greenlight sales of any NSM weapons to Ukraine.
Hmm I wonder since the USAF was part of the development of the LRASM that it has an AA version/variant. And if that was the one that might have hit the A50 in the sea of Azov. According to reports the russians only discovered the missile that struck the A50 in the last few meters. And reportedly it increased its speed in the final final Fase and only that resulted in the discovery of the missile. So probally it was a very stealthy missile that took that plane out.
A hypothetical missile like that might reintroduce AFT guns in large bombers/planes, until drones replace AWAC functions.
Since Ai probally has the ability to differentiate flares from targets. A radar based aft gun might be able to stop a hypothetical missile like that
NSM will get some range increase soonish 125 Nautical miles
Just saying, maybe Rocket money could found a subsidiary called AEGIS Money or CIWS Money
Thats the 2nd Moskava sunk in Black sea.
My guess with the anti-ship missile's ability to avoid jamming would be to simply turn off active radar when first detecting a jamming signal.
That would enable the missile to continue on its trajectory without interference. There are several other ways of achieving the same result, but turning off active radar would be the easiest in my opinion, as an ex RAN 'greenie'.
I definitely WOULDN'T want to be on a ship in today's Navy. They're getting close to obsolete.
Pretty sure it was Neptune, not NSM.
Have you seen the German ship getting hit by the hothies ?
Rocket money, i see what did there
It's not even an Indian weapon, it's basically a Russian missle. Bramos is all Russian engineering and indian financial support
Early Brahmos was mostly Russian, current brahmos is 75% indian, The avionics, fire control system, entire MCP (mobile command post), first stage of solid propellent, almost entire electronic systems and subsystems are indian (which gives brahmos incredible CEP- generations better than oniks), radar reciever and communication systems, only the current ramjet is made by NPO Mahinostroyenia, which is now replaced by indian ramjet which is 60% more fuel effecient and will be used in Brahmos NG. Also, it was india who was able to integrate the missile with aircrafts, something Russians could not do with Oniks, and now considering buying air launch brahmos from India, talk about "Russian engineering".. LOL :D
Edit: its not "Bramos', its "Brahmos" atleast spell the damn thing right
@@SPEARHEADGLOBAL this begs the obvious question. Is the Chinese duplicate more Chinese than the Brahmos is Indian, right now?
The BrahMos is basically a export version of the Russian Onyx.
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes)
India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link)
Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter
Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5
Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it oops
Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
@@SPEARHEADGLOBAL U could say whatever bullshit you want but it's all Russian engineering. If India had the know-how why didn't they made it all by themselves 😆🤣😂
That's like saying someone building a building from the foundation, constructing everything else ,all u did was put on the rooftop but have people believing the building is yours
Wait. The Moskva was sunk by NSM's!
No Swedish RBS 15 or RBS15 Gungnir
?
This doesn't seem like it's necessarily the ACTUAL 5 best Anti ship missiles.
Why would you send out a bomber to launch an anti-ship missile? That seems needlessly risky. If, in the 21st century, you're sending out a bomber to attack naval targets at sea, just use low-yield tactical nukes and wipe out the entire fleet that's coming at you with one bomb. Why risk the bomber to take out just one ship in a fleet with one bomb?
LOLLLLL that advertising tie in was gold
nooooo not my beautiful LaaaaRASMs
Chinese YJ-18 ???
Pakistan Harbah & Babur SLCM ????
Turkish Atmaca ????
The sesrch radars kn the moskva were turned off when it sank. This mwans they didn't see the missiles coming snf couldn't defend themselves.
So NSM reproduces the honourable error of the Argentines in the Falklands ?
Going after the warships is not the best option when China -like the British- is using ferries / cruise ships as amphibious assault ships
If Argentina had gone after Canberra or QE2 and hit either, there likely wouldn't have been a landing at all
The relationship between Russia, India, and The PRC fascinates me. I would think India would be hesitant to work with Russia on projects like the Bramos simply because that would give the PLA access to this data.
The alternative is not having anything like Bramos AT ALL. It's not like any western country would help them to build a ballistic missile.
Brahmos is to expensive for russia its 4 million a pop
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes)
India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link)
Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter
Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5
Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it oops
Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
@@tonykriss1594Im pretty sure Western countries would have no issue working with India since it's seen as a counter to the PRC. Japan, for example, is trying to promote itself as India's ally in the East Asian region to counter PRC dominance.
Also, If India can land a spacecraft on the moon, I don't think its impossible for them to develop their own weapons without outside support. Where as Russia is way too close with the CCP, which allows the PRC to obtain weapons like the Bramos, that could be used against India. Just doesn't make sense to me.
I'd put Atmaca instead of Qader LOL. It is basically a better Harpoon.
Klub, YJ-18, ASM-3…
Gotta say Aaron, this was a confusing video.
The whole NSM-Moskva thing... unless you are privy to secret information that you normally don't divulge -- this information seems to be very wrong, calling in to question all the other statements in the video.
Bramos is a simplified version of russian Onix for export
nope india modified it to make it fly to mach 3.2,made it light to launch through a sukhoi and also included 90 degrees dive capabilities
lol it ain’t simplified 😂 what are you smoking? It’s based on ONIX and has Indian software, navigation and components. Russian sold the onix fuel tech and the missile design but kept the ramjet tech. Thus Russia gets 49% royalties on all Brahmos sales made. However, since then the Russian components have been replaced with Indian components including the ramjet. Thus, many Indian missiles now have ramjet engines
@@t.4999 try to invent it from scratch first: "Russian sold the onix fuel tech and the missile design ", and after that "smoke"
@@pavelvladimirov2651 lol where did Russia get jet engine tech from in the early days? Why did soviet Russia reverse engineer American given plane engines during ww2 which later developed into their own version of engines? Why did Soviet Union continue to steal so many techs from west? Whom did Soviet Union steal nuclear tech from?Calm down and watch cartoon. You are just a hot headed young guy and want to dance around beating your chest like a child. World has had many powers and others who have borrowed from then to become next super powers. Wheel was invented by some and used by all. Don’t make yourself look like a joke by badmouthing about Russo-Indian relation and partnership. Save your excitement for war with Ukraine
NSM didn't sink Moskva
missiles (especially anti ship and anti air) are obsolete against AI guided AA laser systems. you'll see when the big boys get mad at each other
Common... the Indian BragMost? Maybe good in 1986 😂
Designed to defeat american steel and has more kinetic force than your tomahawk
@@singatakberpura uh huh just another outdated Russian knock off
@@alhkcblack9617 Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes)
India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link)
Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter
Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5
Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it :oops:
Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes)
India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link)
Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter
Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5
Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it :oops:
Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
Clarification - Brahmos was developed from the Oniks but the Brahmos entity was created by both Russia and India since 2001 (The person that saw its silver lining was none other than APJ Abdul Kalam that created Indias ICBM programmes and sat launch programmes)
India took the Brahmos - from Mach 2.8 to Mach 3.2,made it lighter,made it skim lower,included a 90 degree deep dive in final phase,gave it stealth coating,improved the seeker,included INS (indian gps link)
Thereafter took it a step further by making the NG version (new generation) which can be air launched because its lighter
Now they have increased the range to 800km,updated its software to do S manevoures during the terminal phase and made it even faster now its touching Mach 3.5
Just recently India "accidentally shot" one into Pakistan without a warhead and the Chinese s400 copy the HQ9 Radar that the Paki`s used could not detect it :oops:
Russia doesn't use Brahmos because it cost about 3.2 Million USD a pop and India has got nearly 1k or them ;)
wait, so you included Brahmos but not Japan's supersonic ASM-3? ASM-3 also has same top speed (Mach 3) and range (at least in air-launced version) as Brahmos and the Chinese YJ-12 but unlike Brahmos or YJ-12, it is compact enough that F-2 (Japan's slightly enlarged F-16) can carry like 3 while for Brahmos massive Su-30 Flanker can carry only one in the belly ad the YJ-12 need the Xian H-6 bomber
CX-1 is for sale
Because China possesses the world's most advanced wind tunnels, such as the JF-22, developing any aircraft is a breeze.
This includes the ongoing failures of the United States' attempts to develop a series of hypersonic missiles.
Dude your statement claiming undetectablity is simply false. Not all wavelengths and radars are in the x band. WW2 radar can detect the f-35 why? If was not even designed to evade that wavelength.
The normal search radars will have no trouble with seeing the return on the longer wavelength radars. Just getting a firing solution is more difficult.
"Deep Intel" lol
I just don't think LRASM is that good.
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The LRASM is absolutely NOT VLS capable. There was an attempt to make them VLS capable in the development phase but it was cancelled.
The fundamental problem is, its physically too big to fit inside existing VLS tubes.
On 17 September 2013, Lockheed launched an LRASM Boosted Test Vehicle (BTV) from a Mk 41 VLS canister. The company-funded test showed the LRASM, fitted with the Mk 114 rocket motor from the RUM-139 VL-ASROC, could ignite and penetrate the canister cover and perform a guided flight profile.
The big difference between Russian and US/Western weapons. Planes ,missiles whatever is this. Russian equipment is often only capable of doing half of what is claimed. US/Western weapons most likely can do far more than what is claimed...
While I love advanced missile systems like LRASM, so much trust in too few failed in Ukraine. I hate it but I have to quote Stalin here "“Quantity has a quality all its own.” NATO must keep its production capacity to produce massive amount of stupid weapons like a moron sea skimming missile which can do Mach 4 which is cheap to produce, just in case.
down vote rocket monies
Nice vid on the Anti ship missiles but I have my doubts about stealth technology. Nothing is a 100% undectable. I remember folks saying that the F-117 Stealth Fighter (Nighthawk) was invisable to radar!
It's not meant to make the missile undetectable. It's meant give the target as little warning as possible before impact. They are going to see it eventually but when they do you want the missile to be so close that they don't have time to react.
The stealth missiles the French and British sent are regularly shot down by systems such as the Pansir. Only the return on the x band is lower.
Brahmos is overrated. US Navy has been practicing against supersonic decoys for many years and has no trouble against them. What kills it for me is that it costs more than 3 times as a single LRASM as per recent Indian buys.
The GQM-163 Coyote is a good example, as fast but smaller and flies lower
Smaller means shorter range, so how do you get into a position to fire them before the enemy obliterates your missile truck?
There's no superweapon. India's own Barak 8 has shot down Brahmos. But it’s still viable as most threats India face don't have the capabilities of the US Navy. Furthermore, it has an airlaunched version, so getting spare parts for them is easy.
@@dragonstormdipro1013if u understood how war was fought u would know when targeting u calculate how many missiles are need to guaranty a hit. Lots of math goes into war.
@@danielch6662 I'm talking about the target drones we use to test our systems being more challenging targets
Crop irrigation hose, bit of elbow pipe and a heat source scaled to size will sink anything for practically pocket change. Add Orca contacted for some whale tongue if towing it under the ship needs sonar evasion or double the comedy.
Lots of assumptions on this video.
Could we we "piggy-back" this onto a ukrainian attack w/o russian knowledge I wonder?
😎👍
Let's see any Indian 🇮🇳 here?
So we really going with the "Deep Intel"? Kind of weird.
Like fire crackers, China has a missile to suit anyones budget so now, everyone gets the chance to abitta bang