"YoU JUsT doN'T UNdeRStaND EvA"
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Netflix recently dropped Evangelion, and once again I remembered how badly I hated the anime.
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Neon genesis evangelion is an anime with tons of analysis and explained videos, it's not good tho. Anyway netflix kind of fumbled it but the animation looked pretty good. I never saw the trailer, I know you remember that opening tho. It's overrated I hate it my name is scamboli dang it! evangelion bad! evangelion good? No, anyway the ending sucked. Wassu8p shinji ikari, my man. eva. I understand eva real good. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
So my little tiny pea brain didn't calculate that this video was 4x as long as I normally make in a week and I've totally wrecked my schedule. I'm not sure when the next upload will be but when I get back on it I should be fairly consistent until, you know. Some other bullshit happens.
Sounds Oof.
That's proof that you're human
@@falcongamer5867 Or *am I*
@@Sabuufa Was quite oof
@@ScamboliReviews don't pull a Michael on me, i know that you're a human
Or do i?
Fun Fact: The writers themselves said they only added the Christian symbolism because, and I quote, “it looks cool”.
They didn’t add it at random though.
It's the creative equivalent of getting a random Kanji tattoo because it looks neat and I love it
@@Schnoz42069 yeah they totally did. you can swap christian symbolism for literally anything else and it wouldnt matter
@@Mewidy they literally didn’t. You don’t know anything about what you’re talking about. All the symbolism makes perfect sense.
@@Schnoz42069 What a wonder, you don't know what you're talking about either.
I disliked how everyone kept telling shinji that he had a choice when the choice is basically the apocalypse or become a front line soldier at the age of 14.
that sthe point. The characters of the show arent supposed to be the voice of reason but deeply flawed
"[...] yeah, there's people like shinji out there, but there's also people like Jack Lucas [...]" and you know the rest
@alantupadre yeah true.
alantupadre A 14 year old not wanting to be a soldier means he’s a coward!!! Shit I’m about to turn 18 and if I was in shinji position I wouldn’t be doing it and I’m pretty sure that you along with everyone else watching this video would make the same decision.
@alantupadre well no. But not every person is a jojo alpha always doing the right thing perfect human being
actually, Shinji and Asuka did have a little development
for the most part they developed into worse people
Rei also had... "development"
she gave up on Gendo and chose Shinji for the instrumentality project
to be fair they do develop at the instrumentality project which is at the end, but idk I liked the other movie, as it worked much more on development..
That's the point.
Not really… more than anything I feel like they stayed stagnant but came to realize why they act the way they do. It was less of a character development and more of a character explanation.
Shinji clearly develops by the end of the show. He rejects instrumentality which was like, the essence of what he wanted. But he rejects it in the end in favor of living as a separate human who will experience loneliness, hurt, and sadness, but also love and happiness. Asuka develops from being cocky, arrogant, and isolated into a vulnerable person who acknowledges her failures and insecurities, which is the first step towards change. She also rejects instrumentality. They both arguably have the most fully developed character arcs in the show. We don't see them fully change into better people, but we see them take the first steps, and that's the whole point. All it takes is that first step towards change. Life will make you sad, people will hurt you, but its worth it because you can also feel love and happiness with others. Idk how anyone could not see that it's a pretty explicit theme of the show that the last 2 episodes and film spend most of their runtime explaining lmfao
Look, man, I'm just here for the psychic meat-mech fights with cosmic horrors beyond human comprehension
*_(and that's where the movies really shine)_*
It very much is within human comprehension
@@ZA-en4bb
At a glance, the physics behind Leliel's shadow aren't
Ramiel is a solid maybe; it's either polymorphic or somehow exists beyond three spatial dimensions.
@@ZA-en4bb i mean, yes, because anything a human cannot comwould be percieved as bad
>doesn't care about substance, only style
>said style is why the movies are good
>is literally named "baitposter"
Well played
"I thought the ending was bad"
"No one important dies"
*"I didn't watch the movie"*
my guy
He said he didn't want to because the evangalion lore is hard to figure out and doesn't want to watch a movie where it could lead to bigger plot holes he needs to look at another 20 hours of content to understand what the fuck is going on.
@Pentex Sucks to understand the movie, he has to dig deeper into the lore than he already has. You can't understand Eva just by watching the anime or the movie, and that's why he doesn't like it.
@Pentex Sucks Exaggeration is a thing.
@Pentex Sucks would it have been better if I said 2,000 hours?
Its not that nobody important dies it was just that you never feel any stakes
Holy shit he actually said it, the mad man.
Pray for me
cmonBruh said what
@@dannya5690 Woooooaah cmonBruh
@@ScamboliReviews already have
My boy about to get turned to LCL liquid.
Wait, so I'm not stupid? I always though this anime didn't make sense for it self, and the only way you could understand it, is through several videos explaining the plot and lore. I liked it, i think, but I wasn't sure of what was going on most of the time.
I understand a decent amount of symbolism but this show only uses it superficially, for the most part. The whole thing functions as some sort of gnostic "return to source" scenario (as in everyone becomes one, as it was before the creation to put it simply) but I actually ended up skipping the majority of the last 3 episodes, the last 2 almost entirely, because it just devolved into a teenager trauma dump.
It leaves out everything (i dont know if on purpose) but yeah. It actually doesn't make sense and it thrives on it. Also by the end you are not supposed to understand it, just care for the characters so you can follow their resolution and discovery at the end.
honestly i'm just here for the angel and eva designs. and also the ton of wierd, convoluted lore this anime has. Oh and also shinji having a mental breakdown every three minutes is the icing on the cake
I 100% agree.
Also, I love the style.
I started the anime because of its unique and weird aesthetic. I was surprised to see that the show had a lot more psychology than i though. Even if i didnt understood all of it, it emphisazed the feeling of the show, for the better according to me. Very special feeling
"No one important in this series dies"
lmao, this guy
Dude I know right! I almost forgot he tried to make that point.
WilloftheWeb noooooo kajjiiiiiiiiiiii
@@seankim5762 yeah Kaji isn't really confirmed dead if I remember correctly, but yeah Rei 2 is dead, dead. ☠️
@@Gundamguy-py3ir nah kaji gets capped it's just not confirmed who does it
Did anyone really care that Kaji died though? Did anyone *really* get attached to Kaji? And even after his death, it doesn't really meaningfully effect anyone but Misato. When Rei "died", her being cloned really took any emotional impact of her "dying" away. Her soul is still floating around, even if I cared about her I wouldn't have been sad. That's sort of the point I was making, it's hard to summarize in a few short sentences.
Nope! You’re nitpicking and biased, I win, Bye Bye!
Ghiaccio / Knack 2 baby.
@@ryder9562 KNACK 3 BABEY
Now I imagine this but in Ghiaccio voice
LMAOOO
Ghiaccio / he’s just an idiot lmao
i think this video helped me realize i can openly dislike an anime without feeling pressured
What is so insane to me personally is that I went into this show with an openess and willingness to completely accept anything and everything and change my own expectations in order to let it fully take me in.
I was told it'd be the greatest thing I'd ever be able to watch in regards to Anime (which I had never watched any of before) and so I really did attempt to let it have the most profound impact it could on me but every criticism in this video perfectly shows in what ways I feel negatively about it.
There was a comment I read on this video that probably just sums up my feelings towards the show better than I ever could:
"I really loved the idea of Evangelion that I had in my own mind but I didn't love the actual show."
Relatable, I came in expecting to be blown away by an extremely complex and deep story that would mess me up. By the end of it I felt scammed and bored, half the show was a regular 'monster of the week' anime and the other half turned into more of a mystery drama that was starting to pick up, only to drop off and turn into a bizarre lecture on loneliness for 2 episodes.
oof, it's a shame that people were hyping it up so much for you. Evangelion hit me hard because I went into it knowing absolutely NOTHING about it. I literally just saw the rei plushie memes everywhere and I wanted to learn where they came from. Evangelion really is the type of anime that you need to watch knowing completely nothing about it, it's kind of surprising I never got spoiled about it lol.
The biggest issue is most people don't understand esoteric and occult symbolism inside NGE, with that it's all just midwits take on Hurr Durr Psychology and Lonliness . For example one thing, Adam in NGE he is actually Adam Kadmon which is the first being made out of light (Adam in the anime is also depicted as a being of pure light) who while seeding the world with life/creation broke apart intp 7 vessels that's most likely why SEELE and Lilith have 7 "eyes" to symbolize this fact. And to unite those pieces/vessels of him, that's actually the instrumentality project or rather Tikkum Olam as it is called within the Kaballah/jewish mystisicm and other occult teachings.
There are a ton of messages und leads which aren't obvious to many, from Jungian Archetypes (all the characters) to outright occult/esoteric meanings.
And even when people "quote" Anno for saying he chose those "christian" symbols etc. because it looks cool they jusz don't get it without certain knowledge about above mentioned stuff.
@@BlackBlocRulez That is very interesting but still doesn‘t really take away any of the other major criticisms for the show.
@@BlackBlocRulez I don't think that any of what you just said takes away the fact that the show has many other flaws that might seem boring to people, like the inconsistent pacing, the theme change, the unlikable characters, the 'on-the-nose' ending, etc.
Shinji: *burps*
Eva fandom: you see that burp is the profound analogy of depression and the empty void you feel in your soul while having no interest in living. That burp smelt like burnt toast, just like the empty black holes in space. These black holes are the metaphors for the Loneliness and the helplessness you feel when going through crisis’s trying to find your place in this world. Only people who understand Evangelion would get this deep and meaningful message, truly Anno was ahead of his time
This post was made by Eva gang
Average pseudo intellectual evangelion fan
So true
@Dman Sneed [Formerly Chuck’s] I mean Berserk is still a really good manga
Is eva fandom your literature teacher?
The sad thing about Eva is that it’s message about escapism was completely ignored and ended up doing the opposite for people, creating more escapism.
Ah, if only the author had anything to say about the reception to Eva
So sad we never had any follow up movies in which Anno addresses it :'c in
@@juang.552 That also do what they criticize by endulging in massive fanservice and obviously exist because it was profitable to do so (and in them, since shinji is his self insert, he marries the self insert of his wife).
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 I'm talking about end of Eva mainly, not the rebuilds.
The whole movie is a commentary on how Anno feels about what people took from his work.
The rebuilds on the other hand, profitable as they may be, are also laced with several layers of meaning, mainly about the author's relationship with the creation that defined his career.
Though i hear interpreting art is not hip these days
Shinji as the most relatable/realistic character
What you say is only true if you interpret it that way. It's YOUR job to get up off your ass and live your life. That was the point! YOU'RE creating more escapism.
How to watch EVA:
1. Get high and watch a half-hour break-down of the plot.
2. Watch "End of Evangelion"
No. Just no. You miss out on, among other things, a TON of really cool mecha fights.
@runefaustblack just watch the dance episode on a 10 hour loop!
Just watch gurren lagan
@@The4thGear
This. It's loud, brash, cool, heroic, gives you cool, likeable protagonists who grow to be better people and win in the end.
Vs gross, organic mechas piloted by depressive teenagers who lose and then the world goes extinct. MUH THEMES OF DEPRESSION AND FAILURE, SO DEEP.
Fvck off, Evangelion. I deal with enough sh¿t on a daily basis. I'm just climbing out of a decades-long depression hole, I'm beating it, one step and one day at a time.
I'm conquering my demons, I am starting to face my fears, I am admitting my mistakes and starting to fix them.
Shinji is just a weak piece of crap. He never decided to be better no matter the effort. He never decided to do anything and everything to be better.
He just laid down, gave up, and his Earth died. Fvck Shinji.
@@mirceazaharia2094 damn didnt know you watched your father force you to kill your friend on a daily basis!
I got interested in Eva because I was recommended CZcams videos about its "deep psychological nature" and to be fair they did have some interesting points like the “desire to not exist”. But after sitting down to actually watch the series, i could no longer relate to a single thing about the show, I felt confused on how so many people were able to draw so much from it when all I felt was burnout when watching Eva. It’s so messy to the point I had the uncontrollable urge to just hold down fast forward because I felt like my time was being wasted
Right? specially during those long shots with Misato that just go on forever and nothing happens
The lack of information given to the viewer plus the fact I found the main characters insufferable really made it so that I couldn’t get any “deeper meaning” out of it cause I’m trying to figure out what tf is going on
There ain’t nothing wrong with shows that have “DeEp MeAnInG” n all but if wanking ahh retards keep disliking minor opinions on these shows then i Kant take dis shit srsly no more 😂
Bro it's not confusing it's just stupid, this is what its creator wants you to think, that it's confusing and deep but in fact it's probably the stupidest thing I ever watched
@@saysikern4425they're supposed to be insufferable
Wow, this video has no dislikes. Everybody must've hated this anime called "Neon Genesis Evangelion"
Yeah, must’ve bombed
@@Marziipan I heard they made a sequel called "End of Evangelion" or rebuilds or something but clearly people must hate those too since videos bashing them have no dislikes
It's really weird how nothing is disliked at all nowadays. The CZcams community is so inspiring!
@@sirlancerstien Such positivity!
@@sirlancerstien youtube got rid of the public dislikes
You don't have to be smart to get Eva, you need to have crippling depression to get eva
Nah it's mid even then
I'm sorry but if you need to be in a very specific state of mind to enjoy/reflect on a piece of media, it's simply not doing a very good job at that. I was doing okay mentally when I watched Sakurasou, NGE, and Welcome to NHK. Two of these shows broke me and made me rethink what I'm currently doing with my life. One bored me to death that I constantly wanted to tab out and/or made me rather use my phone and browse on the internet for the most random things. Can you guess which of the three bored me to death? That's right, it's Eva
@@Shad0wslayer It bored you therefore it's bad? I like slower paced stuff that takes time to flesh out its themes, and episodes 25 and 26 have been essentially my jumping off point for self help and therapy, healing my past trauma and learning how to open up and be a better human being. That's who it's made for. If it didn't do that for you, that's not a failure, that's just it not working for you. And that's okay! You don't have to shit on a piece of media just because you didn't like it or were bored.
Can you say if the manga is better? Or the same?
@@mrcoolcanon the manga is even more complicated and even more up for interpretation. The original series to me is far better, though the manga is still very good.
I enjoyed it somewhat for what it is, but more so I just appreciate how well it captures a sort of feeling not easily put into words.
as someone who just watched it for the first time, i think the point of the show is that escapism is bad. so people trying to get all the answers of the overarching plot basically lost and dont understand the meaning of the show, which is to forget all about the weird angel SEELE plot shit and focus on how Shinji overcomes his mental problems and to incorpoarate that into OUR OWN LIVES. its very meta. but thats just what i think
exactly
Thank you!!! So many people are missing this point like they dodging bullets. That's what made me love EVA more than anything and the fact that I related to Shinji so much.
Bt the way you are describing the series it seems you read/watched some summary on youtube, held on to the escapism bit and wanted to use it to bash the many fans that enjoy the world built around the series. It is literally media. A movie, a series, manga, tv show, made to be consumed. Just because eva and its creator had their own vey valid explanations and complaints about a very different period in anime history doesnt mean we the fans caring for it is "going against the escapism point of the show". I wonder why the rebuilds exist and who was 10000% behind them.. umm could it be the same original creator no longer swamped in depression and financial issues giving everyone closure on his biggest work?
@@christtel1484 tbf to the commenter, they are responding to the video which only covers the original series and none of the movies. So it makes sense that they only talk about the depressive and escapist themes of the anime.
@@h__r If you actually relate to shinji maybe you're just a garbage human being
Rei wasn’t resurrected, she was replaced with a clone, just pointing that out. The Rei we spent the series knowing stays dead.
You gonna act like that no emotion bitch is different now LOL
@Dave Dave that's not true, did we watch the same show?
@@Big_DaddyC Yea i agree as a character she has a arc and goes through development
Andrew Fernandez
She wanted to love to live. But that love is what killed her in the end.
... Ironic, isn’t it?
They basically have no key difference so it's safe to say she was indirectly resurrected
get a load of this guy looking for a good PLOT and things being EXPLAINED in our SADBOY ROBOT ANIME
for real though, i have no idea how you found all of this info about Eva and I'm impressed
great video my man, I'm glad to hear new perspectives about a show that i really love!
funy jojo mam i laugh
Thankies brother 🙏
yEah iTS nOT aBoUt tHe pLOt iTs fOr tHe DEPRESSION
Tornike Tvalchrelidze Jojo is not trash.
Really thought I was missing something when Eva ended. Thank you for articulating the issues I had with the series and sharing your opinion.
If you didn't watch the End of Evangelion, then you did miss... The ending.
i liked eva because big dumb robot go smash, i liked end of eva because big dumb robot go explode
ooga booga like opinion. ooga booga happy
big dumb robot get eaten
big dumb robot grow wing
big dumb robot is now a god or something
As a die hard Eva fan, this is all pretty fair. I’ll be the first to say that Eva has got to hit at the right time in someone’s anime viewing life cycle to be loved or even tolerated. You make really good points and I’m glad that the show doesn’t have to have universal appeal to be a topic of discussion.
Also, yeah, the Eva designs are so freaking cool even to this day.
agreed, is just a matter of how you take what the series tells you
i saw eva 4 times, only finished the last two, only understood the last one
I hate the Eva proportions. What I did enjoy doing is buy SD proportioned evas then buy the standard size eva equipment. lanky robots are stupid imo. shortening their limbs made them look better.
When do you think is the right time in someone's anime viewing life cycle to view this? Like beginner or like have watched lots of shows?
For me personally I didn't like any characters, they were all in some way or another running away or refusing to make a move/face the truth. I'm thinking that's because I've watched lots of characters introspection from other animes and everything they talked about on human mentality/feelings are stuff I've already heard before from other animes.
@@chasingpaper4873 I've gotten to that point as well. it's kinda hard if a newer show you've watched did it (technically again) already then you went watching older shows. Mine is on the flip side though. I know demon slayer is probably on the decent to good side esp with the strong animation levels, but it's an entry level shonen for those new to anime.
@@carlorielmendez6505 I personally really enjoyed demon slayer.
The animation was great yeah but I mostly like it a lot because I found the characters have greater depth compared to other shounen I watched. Though to be fair, I've haven't watched much shounen either, I've only watched Naruto, Bleach and Fairy tail before.
I liked the moments where they show you the characters normal interactions, like when they were resting at that old lady's place/inn or when they were walking towards a mission and they shared a riceball. It doesn't add anything to the narrative or push the story forward, it just shows you that they are close together.
That's the issue I found with jujutsu kaisen, you know the trio are close to each other because they go shopping together and yuuji taught megumi how to cook but it just is never showed on screen. And if it does it's at the end in the 1 min of Jujutsu scroll. Tbh i totally forgot that yuuji was placed in a dorm room next to megumi until they brought that yuuji cooking legacy stuff.
I liked Demon Slayer approach to giving the viewer an insight of these relationships bonds. It's not too long that it will be counted as filler nor is too short that it can get dismissed by the viewer.
From my previous experiences in shounen, normally when relationship building is done it goes on for at least 1 episode and since nothing pertaining to the story happened in these episodes you just count is as filler and skip it. But in Demon slayer since it's well interwoven along the main narrative you can't really skip it.
Also Demon Slayer having it's main theme being family/sibling bond it kinda is more relatable to me since I don't really have many friends or close friends. Though i do have a younger sibling to whom I'm close so it's easy for me to relate to Tanjirou.
I think if you don't have a younger sibling or someone who you are responsible for, the show can be quite hit or miss.
"YoU JUsT doN'T UNdeRStaND EvA"
Nobody does pal...
I give the show after 12 episode
I did I don’t know what you all are talking about.
Except Anno
@Markus Reit If you have to watch an explanation video in order to enjoy an anime. It's not a good anime
@Markus Reit I’m 14 and I just finished watching it and it was one dangerous roller coaster of an anime
I appreciate that you approached this video in good faith and actually gave praise to things you liked about it whilst I disagree with you this wasn't a bad video 👍
Most calmest take from a person with an osaka pfp I've ever seen (I agree too!)
I love Eva, its probably one of my top pieces of fiction. This video is full of valid criticism, and I totally understand your points. But theres an old saying with Evangelion fans and its that “the more you like Eva, the less you like yourself.” So I guess this show isnt for you
My guy I feel attacked 😂
I think the character development was supposed to be the characters mentality becoming worse as the story develops lmao
Well at rebuild they have evolution
Sinshi isn't such a pussy and Rei is more of a person
@@fiddel6483 not really, Shinji is for most part same, Rei is just able to interact with Shinji more, and Asuka is little more self-awear, for most part main characters are same, with same problems.
You talking about re:zero?
@@DelixYT88 what???
@@fiddel6483 what i meant by that was that re:zero felt exactly like what the comment described
From what I have heard, Asuka, Rei, Shinji were all supposed to be annoying. They were character troupes taken to their logical extremes and the author wanted to show that these types of characters are very annoying irl. I guess that backfired because some people still love those troupes.
Author was himself those characters. He found himself annoying and he dealt with extreme depression. He was even not willing to live. So he tried to put his pain into those characters. He got a lot of hate comments just like shinji. But still in reality there are many people who relates and love those characters as well as the author. So the whole journey is about his struggles coming to light with the characters
@@untanted6445 i heard something about that the rebuilds were kind of like what he would make of the story now that he has a much more stable mind and stuff
@@peterrasmussen6775 He was very depressed for a number of years. He only found solitude years after. How the story goes is also related to how his mental health gradually changed. It doesn't matter if he is stable or not because the whole story has a process which comes from his life. You can't only exclude your good times to your craft. I don't know if he is better but all I know is that he survived his hardships along with shinji despite themselves. Some people will say this made them depressed even more and was not motivational but the thing is that this anime was the realest representation of how depressed people are and it doesn't just say things will get better. It may not for everyone an it is okay unless you survive through it and believe that you will come to a peace with yourself which will be enough for a change.
@@untanted6445 wise words! I believe that even though some art isnt pleasant or mentally helping, it can still be extremely well made, with deep meaning. Which makes it great in a different way. If that makes sense.. I really enjoyed the series because it gave a very existential perspective, and it made me think. More often then not, i get more interested in a piece when it makes me think about fundamental or negative things. Just interesting going on a ride like that i think
@@untanted6445 ah yes....because even after learning aliens are attacking, Angels are involved and riding robot mechs that fuk the brain, i am still going to be depressed.
i was looking up some stuff about eva before i watched the ending and saw you video pop up, i didnt watch it at the time but after the ending my first thought was "this was great! i get why he posted this tho and why my sister hated it"
I watched this video around 4 months ago, I came to revisit after watching the series myself to make my own conclusion… and I really enjoyed the series. I understand that many things are left unresolved and unanswered, but that’s a part of Eva that I really enjoyed. Nothing is ever told directly to the viewer or answered directly so everything can be made sense of, its like a deeper version of show don’t tell. And yeah, that’s not really a excuse for the empty spaces but I found it fresh compared to the various trashy anime’s that are soon to come which feel empty and not in depth. This world felt real, the people talked like real people would actually talk like (except for some instances) and the different organizations looked and acted like actual professionals. Despite all of this I do agree that the ending was lackluster. I basically was scrolling on my phone through the whole 40 minutes and wished that things were wrapped up rather then whatever the mess that was the end of Evangelion ever was. Overall I was pleasantly surprised when I watched this dated show and understand why others such as yourself may not enjoy the series but I can confidently say that I enjoyed the show and hope others will read this comment and decide to check it out even if you may end up agreeing with everything said in this video. ☺️
For me, I hate it, and love it.
To get the cringe out of the way: I was a low-life, edgy 13 year old... well... I still am years later but you get the point. I'd had a rough 6 years and I wasn't exactly in the best place when I decided to watch this.
I fell in love with the show, I loved the idea, and it's something that scratched something I didn't really know was there. I related to Shinji, how he felt... I liked that comfort when I was in a dark place and well- I guess that made it harder for me to witness what a totally fictional character had experienced...? Despite how cringy that sounds, that is the truth and will always remain the truth.
I met the end, and I wanted more, I felt sad there wasn't more. I wasn't usually this bad with shows concluding... but... I hated that it had.
I decided to watch End of Evangelion. That was probably my mistake. After watching that, I personally felt worse. Multiplied by the fact I felt like shit anyway. I went several months feeling like crap because of this show, because I found comfort when nothing else really gave me comfort, it made me happy to watch, but so extremely lost when it ended..
In fact, I can't bring myself to watch the show for that very reason; it makes me feel like shit when it concludes... when it's all done...
Despite that, years ago I watched the show countless time, almost expecting a different story to happen...? But it didn't... it always remained the same.
Sorry for my stupid sob story. But ultimately that's why I love and hate it.
@@SLNDRPLYS You should become a poet or a writer dude. I respect every single word you say and relate. Eva is truly something beautiful.
@@LiyanDim thank you. I'm only 15 now, but I admire the English language, and I love learning words to convey my message better.
Thanks for the comment.
I think the degree to which you enjoy Evangelion depends pretty heavily on how much you sympathize with Shinji. I related with him on a deeply personally level because I have the same personal issues he does (running away from my problems, indulging in escapism, feeling worthless , isolating myself from other people).
Bro you hate evangelion’s character I disagree because I think Pen Pen is amazing
Pen pen is the shit I forgot about him
@@ScamboliReviews noot noot
@True facts 3.0 gendo is fucking trash, what the fuck are you talking about. He just makes the same brooding face and is a douchbag for 24 episodes
@@legendarylitening lmao
Pen Pen is best character
This guy and Nux are mad lads.
"Why Eva sucks"
"Why Fairy Tail is actually good"
Oh, the duality of man
trash taste
William Dupuis ok boomer
@@Will-uj7yu lol weeb trash
Seriously in the finale season of Fairy Tail they cut the budget, tons of scenes and even had MAIN guild members in the background who were fighting represented as grey background characters with no face/animation.
That shit went downhill fast.
I think you were going into NGE with a certain expectation of it in mind. You talk about the story constantly. The story literally does not matter. After I watched the anime I spent 3 hours on the wiki trying to piece together the story. The anime is about the characters and certain emotions. You can't just hand-wave that away as some snobbish interpretation, it's literally the point of the anime.
The events focused on in the story aren't supposed to be riveting, mysterious, exciting, and fun with satisfying payoffs- that's not how the characters experience them. Gendo is detached from everything and moves around pawns in a board room - those are his scenes. Shinji fights terrifying angels over and over again and he hates it - those are his scenes.
I think the episodes are supposed to be formulaic and repetitive as a part of its theme. The music supplements this, as it's the same action hero music every time. The purpose that people expect from Shinji is to defeat the angels, and nothing else, over and over again, even though he's not even interested in that. A lot of the time NERV has absolutely no idea about what it's doing and they suffer major damage and are forced to take enormous risks. This is important thematic backdrop.
As for the characters, they aren't supposed to be likeable or fun, or emotionally satisfying. They do have meaningful character development and exploration, a lot of which is subtle. They don't go from one archetype to another archetype over the course of the show in a satisfying way. They are deeply flawed and weak. If you don't care about the characters that's fine I guess, but that isn't the anime's fault for not forcing you to. When I was watching it I had a feeling that the show wasn't afraid of killing any of the characters, but that there were more consequences to them surviving than dying.
As for the last 2 episodes, I still don't know what to think about them, so you might be right, I guess.
Overall, I think you really didn't get what I got out of NGE. Which is unfortunate. Watching this review felt like hearing somebody say that they don't like a book because it tastes bad, or the cover is too glossy. I wasn't upset listening to it, because you weren't even criticizing the same anime that I watched.
This is an incredible explanation of exactly what i was thinking, and a lot more actually. Good job dude
Thank you @@anthonyg7623
ok
Ain’t nobody readin that shit
@@IanSmith-ux4iq don’t read it then? Not sure why you had to spend your time saying that you didn’t read something 🤷♂️
I loved this video, just watched eva a few months ago cause I heard it was such a classic and went through every stage of grief you described.
Nobody understands eva unless they're a philosopher from ancient greece who died violently because they said the earths round
r/IAmAnEvaFanAndIamSmort
Ehh I think this is all a bit of an exaggeration.
It does take a little time to go outside the show and watch an explainer, or read an analysis forum post somewhere.
But this is just a TV show that involves themes of existential philosophy, Freudian psychology, and religious imagery.
The same could be said of Westworld, Lord of The Rings, etc. Those themes just happen to be very meaningful for certain people and I’m one of ‘em 🤷♂️
Actual legitimate laughs emerged from my body reading this comment
The ancient greeks knew that the earth was a sphere
The earth is rectangle
I finished this show feeling confused and depressed but at least I got to jam to *ZANKOKU NO TENSHI NO YO NI* every 20 minutes.
I just finished it right now especially the movie, looking at videos to explain. I don’t get it.
Well, at least they gave us one of the most catchy OP in anime history...
I 100% understand it and all of my mental ailments are cured
And then Komm Susser Tod when you want some Fanta
@@ghostkiller427 like things. Go out the house. Try to enjoy your days.
That's all it's about. Get better, take care of yourself.
I actually really enjoyed the first half of Evangelion, even if it's the more "boring" part. So much that I was wondering how they'd wrap up all those plot points they set up.
They didn't, of course.
I felt a sense of completion after finishing the anime and was surprised they made additional movies. I wonder what didn't you get?
@@langustajablecznaMostly the sci-fi elements like "oh wow look, it's an X58008 drive for evas! How?", or anything about Angels, or maybe showing more of Rei's character (which, I think is just left as "she Gendo wife, that's why she likes him"), and... really all the things this video covered? (I haven't watched it since then, I don't remember what's already mentioned)
By the movie, I still didn't even know what the difference between Gendo and SEES plan was, and even after I checked online most people just speculate it's making his wife a god, but doing everything else exactly as SEES wants anyway. I could come up with a whole essay probably, but I've got things to do, and don't care enough.
@@dutczar5436 Rei can't progress much as a character, since she is being cloned constantly and shaped to fit Gendo's plan, but I get you and wanted it too. That is her tragedy. I see Rei 2's slight development despite it all. I think if they explained all the technical intricacy it would be way longer and more boring, but those things don't interest me at all personally
@@langustajableczna The thing is that you could still pull off something satisfying there, both by spreading out her development (rather than, literally end it by episode 6), or covering more themes regarding the cloning from her point of view, as I only remember one scene in her house, which just seemed to be there to address "yup, existential crisis is hard" and move on.
Being unconventional in general is the main problem for me, TOO unconventional. You don't need technical intricacy to explain the Angels, for instance, but the fact we don't know - or more importantly, we don't LEARN - more about them, the central driving force of the story, by the end than we did in episode 1 is something you generally see stories get criticised for. I mentioned that "engine" or "Dead Sea Scrolls" are other things unexplained, but on their own they're something I'd forgive Eva or other shows for, it's just that everything keeps on piling on.
@@dutczar5436 I think it was very well done, but I used to really relate to Rei and felt seen when I was much younger and watched NGE first. I think it adds to her character and role, and it maes you sad when you think what could become of her if she was given the time and ability to develop and live. But that's just my reading of Rei and my and your opinions are equaly meaningful and meaningless. I was always curious to see what Rei would be if more of Rei 1 was left in the next clones. For angels I just thought oh angels, some sort of cosmic monster that tries to get inside and get something and they learn from each other on how to attack Nerv. And they got the same names as in the bible lol. When I watch something I let my mind flow and interpret freely, to myself and NGE is perfect for that
I love seeing you answer to the comments that support your videos as you perfectly know you can't argue against the ones that actually understood it.
>I haven't seen the movie
>no one important dies
MY GUY
while thematically the anime's ending was fitting, i feel like its pretty fair to say that without watching end of eva if you were invested into the show then you'll end up feeling empty as hell, and if you WEREN'T invested into the show you'll feel like it was all a massive waste of time
@@gxgycf8348 Yea absolutely. EVA was like the fourth anime I watched and I wanted to kms every second of it. EoE cleared shit up a bit but I think EVA is supposed to grow on you as you understand it more and more. Even though I don't really care for EVA all that much, it's impossible to deny how smart the story is and how timeless the Characters and Music is. It really is an important watch for people who like anime imo.
The anime community did not say "end of eva is so cool dude you have to watch it!" They made the hype around neon genesis evangelion so it is completely fair to judge the movie and series different from one another
@@ianbrown1810 Heres the thing, important characters dies in the movie and it is supposed to be a proper run-through of the last 2 episodes
Movir sucked just as much, just didnt take up 14 hours of my life
Virgin EVA fan:"you just don't understand EVA"
Chad EVA fan:"i agree that EVA is flawed, but i still love it"
The problem is that Chad Eva fans are like, 1/100 of the fans
Yes
yes.
I might even claim it's greatly flawed and it's still liked and viewed as better than 6/10 only because of few things: symbolism (which makes the show feel deep), good animation, unique idea. Those things don't make a show really "good", but basic anime watchers and fans of symbolism will judge the anime to be 10/10, even though it could be argued that it might be objectively wrong to claim so. People assume that if they like something, it must be good.
I believe shows like code geass and death note are objectively much better shows than evangelion. But I guess somebody could choose to judge shows with criteria which would make evangelion better and death note worse, but I don't feel like that kind of criteria could be viewed as good by most people.
Also Chad EVA fan: nonexistent
@@matteo964 more like 1/10000. But ur on the point
Been watching through your backlog, and I love your style!
I love your editing and humor. Great video.
Plot twist: His favorite anime is Darling in the Franxx
another fanboy right here
Nah I was thinking more like a Gundam fan
Space dandy cries in the distance
Or Gurren
@@animebooty322 his favorite anime is ergo proxy
Lol u sounded like a high school teacher at the end "dont leave yet, dont leave yet, I'm not finished"
TRIGGERED
Hahahahah, why is this so true?
I’m not the type of person who can’t watch something say, I like it, and go therefore everyone should like it, and not recognize there are stunning flaws. Evangelion has many, but the story spoke to me in a perfect time of my life (high school) and i can still drum up those old feelings watching it today. That being said I can see why someone would find it boring and it wouldn’t be something I’d recommend to someone my age whose never seen it as I feel the “I feel asleep during it” is pry about right. One more thing thanks for bringing up ergo proxy, speaking of nostalgia, I’ve not seen it just started it based on this video, but damn this gives me all kinda blade runner/armitage: dual and poly matrix vibes! I’m loving it!
The characters are definitely what caries most of the show for me, and the crazy shit happening that makes no sense was cool to see them interact with. Also END OF EVA IS A WAY BETTER ENDING AND EXPLAINS A TON
EoE is not just the better ending its the canonical one. The last two episodes from the anime are not canon.
@@RiqMoranthey’re both canon, the last two episodes are just a super abstract interpretation of what happens in EoE
@@colinfuller no theyre not. EoE overrides the last two eps and is the widely accepted canonical ending to the main continuity. There is hardly anything connecting the two, theyre very much different. If you want to claim they are the same then you might as well claim rebuild is also the same ending since it has arguably more connections to EoE.
@@RiqMoran okay explain what happens in the last two episodes and tell me how it’s different from what happens in EoE
@@RiqMoran it's not easy to piece together those last 2 episodes, but the movie and show ending aren't as separate as you might think. Text pops up in the middle of episode 25 saying "instrumentality begins" letting you know that everything from then on takes place during the third impact. And it actually lines up with the movie since it's at that point that shinji goes into the world of nothingness. The show depicts it as a blank white world, the movie depicts it as the orange lcl sea. This is the point in both the show and the movie that Shinji realises he needs to overcome his fear of rejection and accept reality. The show ends right at this scene with the "congratulations" and this is where the movie continues to show what happens next, with shinji breaking out of the blank world and returning to the beach in the real world. Shinjis mom tells him that anyone who has the will to live will return to the real world. Asuka also rejects the third impact so she returns to the beach as well
The good part for me about Evangelion is that
*I don't understand what the fuck is going on but I absolutely love everything that is happening*
can uuu feelll ma heaaaaaaarrtttt
i was confused as hell in ep 25 and 26 lmao
@@BigWinsAllDay those were the only episodes straight-forward enough for me to understand what was going on
@@nekosaiyajin8529 they made me confused as hell but after i watched eoe it all clicked and i was like "oh."
@@BigWinsAllDay I didn't watch EoE. Is it good?
When I watched the entire series I felt dumb and I started getting a headache from trying to figure out what I was missing.
Now I’ve realized that the added lore is just filler. The intent of this show all along was just to deconstruct the human psyche and they used badass-robots and this deep spiritual lore to get us sucked in.
The author probably knew that this was the best way to get people to reflect on themselves in this day and age
Edit: I just re-read this an I realized how pompous I sounded when I said “the true intent of this show all along.” It is stupid of me to pretend to know the true meaning when I’m not the author.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment.
The show is pretty much a reflection on depression and such, based on the author's history of clinical depression, and Shinji is just Hideki Anno's portrayal of himself. The mecha and religious themes are just there for filler, they aren't the main focus, Anno said it himself, and that's why the ending is only phsychological, because that was the real focus.
LipTL but considering how deep the lore goes with all the games and movies it’s reasonable to say that our interpretation is swept under the table
@@Josh-ck9bv True. It blows my mind to realize how many hours one could spend only reading about the lore, there is so much stuff and it amazes me every time I look up something about Eva.
Thank you for actually taking the time to explain what the show is about instead of typing every cuss word in all caps.
OliAnims I don’t like watering down my cuss words. So when I use them people know how I feel.
The biggest issue with Eva is that all of the robots, and angels, and Dead Sea scrolls were never even the point. It was just a psychological thriller disguised as mecha anime. So anyone who went in expecting or wanting a mecha anime was very disappointed. Which was most people. That’s basically the only reason the movies exist at all. They’re just an alternate ending for people who didn’t like the show as a psych thriller. And even then the show is very abstract and still mostly revolves around Shinjis mental state.
In other words the show isn’t an external conflict between humanity and angels, it’s about the struggle between Shinji and his fear of rejection. So anyone who was more invested in the whole angel crap was inevitably disappointed.
And that’s perfectly fine, it’s not a matter of people just “not be smart enough to understand” it’s a matter of people wanting something that just isn’t given. The show was also pretty censored so a lot of content that actually would’ve moved the mecha plot along was removed, hell Toji was originally supposed to die. Thank you for reading my rant that is probably horribly written and horrendously overstated.
It's not that they wanted something that wasn't given, it's that they wanted something that the show professed to be about and then faked them out with a gay tangent about depression
@@EresirThe1st As I said the show was never about giant robots. Even the episode titles are all psychological concepts and theories. The entire show is a gay tangent about depression, wether you realized it or not.
as someone who loves eva this is exactly how I feel about it. I love it's psychological and abstract elements but I do wish they tied up the angel plot a bit more. Eva is definitely not a show for everyone.
@@NPCoppa lain is better. you watched 26 episodes of hot garbage thet youll never get back.
@@peenerparker846 Ehhh I liked it well enough. Maybe I have terrible taste but I think it was time decently well spent. I haven’t watched Lain, would you recommend it?
Man I love Ergo Proxy more than most people, but it's wild you would use that as an example of good mystery writing. If anything Ergo Proxy sniffs its own farts way more than Evangelion ever did. The whole way through Ergo Proxy I can just hear the writers jerking themselves off over their clever allegory, but in the end it's just the more rote sci-fi garbage in a slightly shiny new coat. I eat that slop up like nobody's business because I, too, smell my own farts; but at least I have the temerity to admit it's slop.
I respect a guy that uses the word temerity
“No one important dies”
EoE: Are you sure about that?
Thats a movie not the show
Kaji dies even without EoE
he didn't talk about the movies in the video because if you need to watch a movie to understand a show then it's poopoo
@@_sls7535 or you could be a good writer and write a beginning middle and end to your show
@@821lancevance nah just become evangelion's author smh
So I watched Eva when i was in deep depression and found myself relating to shinji and it scared me. I feel like the whole purpose of the show was for people to relate to shinji but not emphasize with him. Shinji is what we hate about ourselves and the other characters help to reflect that. I really had no idea what was going on in the plot but at the mental state I was in the show really helped me to reflect on my life. A lot of people will disagree with my view on it but it doesn't really matter It did what it was meant to do for people like me and that's all that really matters. Eva will always be one of the best anime in my heart.
I feel like it’s a wake up call to just get your shit together. Or atleast that’s what I learned from it
So the point of the show is to make the watcher a better person than its main character? Sounds alittle shitty ngl.
@@base21 If you don't vibe with it its cool it's not for everyone.
@@therumblerx its not about vibing
@@base21 You got your opinion out dude move along.
I agree with the title u don't understand eva lmaao nobody dies tf
toji was supposed to die but BAM! CENSORSHIP!
I love Evangelion, and I couldn't help but love this video too 🤣🤣🤣
I like the show because of the reasons you hated it and I find that hilarious.
Great work!!
Oh, look at Mr. "I'm not Depressed" over here
can this get pinned mr. reviews?
Is that what you call anyone with any happiness?
so basically what you're saying is being depressed is the new norm and it's uncool to be happy.
this right here is what we call a pee pee poo poo opinion.
@@paragjyotinath666 nah he's saying "I'm not depressed and edgy" is something ignorant guys like this guy who made the video use to degrade what they're talking about
Parag Jyoti Nath i think they’re just saying a lot of depressed people like eva
I actually studied EoE in my IB Film Studies. Not for it's amazing story telling (which it's still not bad) but for how philosophical and thought provoking it is. It's like the perfect example of a car crash landing in a tight parallel parking space
I will say, just bc it's a philosophical masterpiece (imo) doesn't mean it's entertaining to everyone. Hell, I sure didn't like reading 1984, may have predicted future society and talks about societal issues perfectly, but damn that shit was boring
it’s fucking amazing but so exausthing
@@izzie481 fr, I can understand why people don't like it. But it's just a phenomenal show, and I really like shit that makes me think
@@Luis-kv8zc I just watched it and I like the show. I like things that makes me think too. Apparently there are people who don't like this kind of show and they start talk shit about it. I don't know why people should really bother with something they can't enjoy, they could just leave i and go right? :(
@@aegeandawn2039 I mean, I'm sort of the same. Shounen shows make me cringe, things that are revered like Haikyuu, Demon Slayer, etc. and Im usually out spoken on it too. Everyone can have an opinion
Evangelion is a great show.. for AMVs.
And for sound design
THERE’S A LOT OF EVANGELION AMVs OUT THERE!!
i honestly loved this series, but seeing a diffrent point of view is really fascinating!
"Don't fret. This is all foretold in the *P E E P E E P O O P O O* complex."
The *p e e p e e p o o p o o* complex is all powerful...
I shat myself laughing because of Gendo's face LMA0
I say that to someone I know online to make fun of him for loving Eva, and he starts absolutely fuming.
@@Gumbocinno you're doing everyone a favor.
Ahh yes, the vaginous theorem is nearing completion....
Used to think it was just meh, then during some good old clinical depression I saw the first rebuild movie. Made me rewatch the whole thing. It's brilliant, but yeah you have to have had some particular types of experiences for it to resonate with you, otherwise I can see how it would come across as bland or pretentious.
To be clear, I think there are other things it does very well, but the main draw here is how well it captures depression, that's what elevates it from excellent to special for me
Also shinji was very brave, you just missed it.
But mainly it'S ToO deEp For yOU
Interesting
Wow. Okay that's a disturbing interpretation but quite convincing and eloquent.
(I've always thought that Eva is about trauma in general, not about specific types. That Shinji isa blank slate, sort of ampty narrative device, an abstract representation of childhood trauma and acting out based on that trauma. )
Exactly this.
What OP said. And some of what I tried to get at. I am horrible at simple articulations.
I am sorry.
Well , during depression I saw shinji as more of a pathetic protagonist doing whatever that made his life the most easy,listening to his father and also a Bill Cosby wannabe for jizzing all over a German chick.
The amount of things he gets wrong is completely hilarious.
if i didn't watch it with my friend who explained stuff, I would probably feel the same way
god you really hitting what I feel
I'll just say this. It's not for everyone, definitely.
AND FUCK, you didn't even watch the Canon ending, the REAL ending, dude...
You make some great points, but the ending you're talking about is not the real one, it's one made in shitty budget.
@@xdredbruny2 what is the canon ending?
@@LaymensLameMan End Of Evangalion
If i have to review a plate of pasta that comes without any flavors, I'm not gonna say that *that* pasta tastes well because *somewhere else* there's a sauce that makes it taste better.
Ergo: if the anime alone sucks then it sucks
HmMMmMMmmm yeeeh, only us intelectuals can enjoy such a masterpiece and complex series hMmMMMM
Holdup wait you got that last part wrong.
When they say congratulations it's about when Asuka dies in End Of Evangelion
That's the happy ending
Ohhhh it all makes sense now
Bruh, no.
@@evashogoki8703 bruh yes
ohhh fuck you
>:D
I don't have many regrets in my life. I dont regret watching things, even if they're dogshit, because i still gain something from the experience. Eva is the first and only anime I regret putting any significant amount of time into understanding. Maybe its because im autistic but all the symbolism went way over my head. I wanted to like it so much, the story could have been great. The show was so boring but there was just enough intrigue to make me keep watching. I had so many questions and so the last two episdoes made me genuinely angry. I know they didnt have enough money left by the end of the show to animate it properly but just writing the questions and answers on a board would have been more satisfying than whatever the fuck that was supposed to be. And to top it all off, by the end you're left with more questions than answers. I tried getting into the movies but i think i managed to watch the first 2 before i completely gave up. Getting answers from ava is like eating a delicious steak with nothing but a straw. You can see the delicious meal in front of you but trying to suck all that food through your tiny straw is so frustrating that when some food finally touches your tongue you're so pissed off that it doesnt even taste good anymore.
Did you watch End of Evangelion? If you have any questions regarding the show I'll gladly answer them (unless CZcams fails to notify me to your reply).
There is no symbolism, it's fake deep. Stuff is just there to look cool.
Wow. "Eating a delicious steak with nothing but a straw" is actually a really great analogy.
"Getting answers from ava is like eating a delicious steak with nothing but a straw." How can someone drop amazing lines like this? You are a genius
9:51 Independence Day Baby
Who could've guessed that a show created by a depressed middle aged Japanese man would reflect his mental state. Stagnation, boredom, being in the dark about half of the things that happens around you, a desperate desire of running away. Each character is a slice of Anno's depression and mental state, and that's why the majority of fans have a similar story with Eva, depressed people feeling represented.
Underrated comment
Well said. I think Scamboli was really just focusing on the wrong aspects of the show - like, fulfilling expectations, making the characters grow and be cool, giving clear cut answers for all the lore mysteries is not the point. Relating to the characters' struggles, the themes of depression, repressed sexuality, escapism, is the part that hits SO hard. Of course it's a highly subjective and personal topic, so it's not gonna resonate with everyone and that's how you end up with this video.
@@aeyvan I assume you don't know that the End of Evangelion movie exists as the "real" ending of the story. I'd be ecstatic if every single story in film ended up as crazy as that movie did, so speak for yourself. And no, Yui never comes back to life in the series, I'm not sure how you missed that one lol
@@aeyvan Or maybe just accept that people can like different things than you and move on? Jesus christ man, chill out with the essays
@@aeyvan The TV anime's ending is supposed to be an introspection/analysis of every character. In the ending, everybody merges into one big soup (including the souls of the dead), and the lines that separate one person from another fall apart. The "dinner table scene" is supposed to say "what would happen if you didn't have to pilot the robot?" It's the only real identity Shinji has, and it's supposed to show that he can be a different person. To be fair, that imaginary life segment goes on for way too long, though. The plot specifics, while not super relevant, were told horribly.
People see Evangelion as a masterpiece because it really resonates with people stuck in a particular mental ditch. If you aren't in that ditch, I can completely see how you'd be left with a subpar show that everyone seemingly keeps jerking off for no reason. A lot of people do get sucked into the same mental spiral as Shinji, and for them, it's a great show. I don't get why you're so angry at people for seeing it differently than you.
I love both you and Eva, if you think Is shit, Is fine dude, glad to see new opinions well thought out like this from time to time
Why do u like it i watched a couple eps of it and it was slightly interesting but i didnt get sucked in mayb its ma preference but idk just didnt make me invested in following the rest of the series and this review just made me glad i didnt
I can't speak for Pablo but the idea of a coming of age story with demon mechas and atmosphere does it for me. I cared about the world more than Shinji. In the finale I only rooted for him become it meant a continuation to individuality and a second chance for humanity. Execution is dodgy in the show tho. The movies were made for a reason.
@@decrify5691 i think is more down to preference as you say, for me it was cool visuals at first, the mechanical design here looks so different to the standard, but then i was slightly pissed off that there were no mechas in screen most of the time, i watched the episodes late at night and i fell asleep as scamboli aswell, so i it led me to rewatch some episodes, and then it clicked with me, is not about mechas, is about this broken kid trying to come out of this rut he has been for most of his life, wich deeply resonated with me, as 17 year old back then who struggled to talk to people.
to the start to the half of the series shinji slightly improved in his selfsteem but it all crumbled and he went down a spiral that culminated into the last episodes, if he wasnt so apathic, and realized that his problems were only to him to resolve he could have prevented all that shit, but as most of us do, some messed up shit make us think that some stuff is impossible to repair, i felt deeply in tune with shinji, and how he accepted all of that in the end of eva and finally became in terms with himself and the world, is just to beautiful for me, it was like a call to me, take your problems at your own hand. but yes the show is far from perfect at execution as scamboli and joules said, last two episodes specially, since the original version were scraped to avoid backlash in face of a terrorist attack that happened in japan at the time because of similarities, but the end of eva fixed and improved the hell out of it
@@decrify5691 Tbf it's a pretty old anime, even if it pushed boundaries and is an inspiration for more contemporary works it still is structured in a different, more old-fashioned way that isn't what most modern anime use to grab your attention.
@@AlquimistEd thats not the problem i have watched other old ass anime and enjoyed them but nge just doesnt suck u in and have u actually interested in the story or characters i dont understand what u mean by modern ways to suck u in anime has to have u interested and suck u in if not the anime just doesnt interest u
Finished 3.0+1.0 a couple days ago and my brain is now slightly smoother than it was before i watched neon genesis
11:20 as the show goes on your not meant to like walt
"no one important dies"
Kaworu & the End of evangelion:am I a joke to you
@@vladimirmartinez290 exactly
@@vladimirmartinez290 except shinji
@@vladimirmartinez290 actyualy asuka died too the reason why she appears in the end was for some symbolism shit
@@duckfrob2911 im pretty sure since shinji became a god, created asuka again unconsciously thats why he strangles her cause he thinks hes still in human instrumentality, when she touches his cheek asuka lets shinji know shes feeling pain and lets herself beloved instead of keeping it deep down
Kaji gets shot up by a wet works team in a sewer, nah, not important at all.
“Ah yes, this was foretold in the Pee pee Poo poo complex”
“Try calling him the N word!”
“Sir, we did it and he told us he wasn’t black.”
Good to see my sense of humor hasn’t changed in 7 years.
I'm ashamed at how much i laughed at those
@@karulhi
"NOOOO YOU CANT JUST MAKE THOSE JOKES, THEY'RE IMMATURE AND MEAN!"
"haha, pee pee go poo poo"
It's true for the internet though sad but true
@@walterwhitecookingchannel8912 "the wee wee scrolls"
@@karulhi ok narutard
This was a very fun video to watch thank you for considerate of how boring it would be for the rest of us to go through the same thing.
Remember when the whole staff of Evangelion just thought Christian symbols looked cool and just added crosses for that sole reason.
Yeah what can I say the pope be drippy
I think the Christian symbolism was supposed to make Evangelion more understandable than to create fresh symbols of its own. It's like using a pre-existing language rather than creating some code that only the creators understand or would have to teach.
@@edsknife
It had no real meaning to the production team.
The assistant director said it in a interview.
Not really. The director said in an interview that the show doesn’t have Christian themes and they used that kind of symbolism because it looked cool. That doesn’t mean that the symbolism was meaningless, it had meaning relative to the show’s themes, just not to Christian themes. For example “angel” means messanger of god, and the angels in the show are exactly that, messengers of Adam, a god-like being. Or the fact that the Eva’s are clones of Adam. In other words they took a piece of Adam and made Eva (Eve), mirroring the Biblical creation of humankind. Not even only Christianity. The character of Lilith comes from Jewish mythology, and was the original wife of Adam, that later went on to give birth to demons. Basically in the show the humans are the demons fighting against god’s emissaries, and that’s a central theme to Evangelion’s plot, the struggle of Man agains God.
@@pickledsandwich7201 Throw your headcanon into the gerbage bin. The crosses are NOW meaningless, now that we know that it was meaningless to the creators.
I always say that if you don't like Eva, you did everything right in your life LMAO. To me it's just a perfect realization of my saddest sad boi hours. The visuals, the dialogue and the music combine into this reminiscence of my own pain, like it gets me down to the most personal detail. Like a bad memory perfectly encapsulated and conserved. Which is why I don't "enjoy" watching Eva. It's just a part of my life that I know exists in this form, and I appreciate it for existing.
I am self destructing over here and I think evangelion is a great concept that starts pretty good and goes bad so quick it just doesnt matter that it was good at first
@@goldengoat9524 Could not disagree more, the best parts of eva are closer to the end IMO. Episode 16 is one of the best anime episode ever, and it gets really heavy as things progress past that episode
except the fights, those are done perfectly, but don't carry much weight behind them as the story is not interesting
You might have a point. Back when I watched it I thought it was an extremely slow start, started to go somewhere in the early teen episodes, then crashed facefirst into a wall and became so bad I actually feel ripped off on some existential level. I've seen other shows that are boring or nonsensical, but evangelion is the only show I've watched that genuinely felt wrong. It's like anti-art. The ultimate pattern of what not to do. Eva is a show I genuinely, deeply detest, but maybe that's precisely why it's useful.
@@goldengoat9524 I personally liked it. Idk about you.
damn.. i just finished eva and felt exactly like you described it. i was excited for it bc of how hyped its been forever and felt hella cukk'd.
😄In a very real way Evangelion is the giant robo version of a cukkold, if you're Shinji anyway.
Look at the last ending, I see that as a usurpation, cukkold and thankless bootout of Shinji.
Cant blame u on not understanding it since the writers wanted to "let the readers come up with their own answers"
"Everyone in the show hates themselves" ya and I hate them too... and my self.
And I hate you. 😠
@@Wellshem why do you hate him you dont even know anything about him.Hating things because you cant understand them is the reason there is so much hate in this world we should listen to each other rather than making assumtions. Shinji hated himself because he didnt listen to other people he assume that they hated him which caused him to hate himself.
Honestly whats your point here about you hating yourself as well?
@@mehmetersahin9602 How hard is it to differentiate a simple joke and an offense?
@@smartstuf1026 It's a joke
This man straight talked about memes instead of the anime half the time. 🤣
It's a lot more entertaining than the show, that's for sure
Lain *Pretentiousness intensifies*
@Lain The monna lisa is not hard to consume so why is Eva?
this guy is trying so hard lmao stop clowning
@@manuelcampi8956 who told you the Mona Lisa was a masterpiece? It's not even one of the best paintings by Davinci, it's popular because of the story (robbery and shit). But yes, it's not always the case with some masterpieces.
I don't know how i feel about Eva and the movies but i had so many emotions pulled out of me after seeing the end of the final movie
For me the destination îs not enough if The journey îs mediocre.
I feel like i wasted 15+ hrs of my time. Should've watched DBZ
i strongly disagree but respect for having great points nd actually having a different opinion
@@David-rd1lj how is he a smart man u dont know why he disagrees what ur doing is being biased lmao
-OkuyasuIsTheBestJoJo - sure I’m not gonna bother talking to a guy who names his channel “okuyasuisthebestjojo” bruh just grow up
@@dior666- now you are just being salty
@@le-blanc1440 this guy is a clown lmfao
@@dior666- go back to your mama
Next video in my feed says “why eva’s ending is a cinematic masterpiece”
To be fair, that video is commenting on the film “end of Evangelion”, which wasn’t referred to in this video (the ending mentioned in this one is the original one for the show, which I’ll admit, is pretty crap).
However I’ve seen neither the film nor the video in question so I can’t talk about the validity of that videos points.
not really, that other video is about the anime and how it being about coming to terms with oneselves is reflected all along the series
Mine is "5 Anime Perfect for Newcomers".
Oh dear.
No fucking way, guess what
Yep same
I normally enjoy this channel videos, but this one was quite full of shit NGL. It screams "I watched EVA, didn't get it, didn't bother to try and the memory of disliking it remains".
To be honest I delayed watching Evangelion for more than a decade because I always thought "fucking mecha weeabo garbage with 5 spinoffs and skintight 14 year olds BS". I literally cringe remembering the first time somebody recomended it to me. My answer was: "I don't like mechas and besides, I doubt it would be half as good as Death Note".
But then one day, like 14 years later I gave it a try, and man, I'm glad I did.
The thing is that normally this kind of "cult masterpieces" are going to be seen with scepticism at best. When I saw Akira I was also thinking I was going to see some shitty old garbage, same with ghost in the shell, but I made an effort to keep an open mind and I found a lot of joy on doing so. A similar thing happened with Nichijou, Monster, Golden Boy, Nana and a lot more.
It's hard to not judge harshly something unknown to you when its popular for such a long time.
Is it popular because it is good? Or people say it's good because it became so popular? Is people going predisposed to like it because of it's long term popularity or does it deserve such popularity?
I went on this tangent to clarify that when I finally decided to watch Evangelion, although with a grain of salt, I made the concious effort to watch it with an open mind and also made the effort to try to understand/figure out things as it went.
(Spoilers ahead).You compare NG: EVA with BB when they are more than 10 years apart and one is a fucking japanese anime and the other is a North American HBO show. When Evangelion came out, the internet was in diapers, anime was way more of a nieche thing outside Japan and both Lehman Brothers and the World Trade center were still standing. There is no fucking way that comparation is either fair or well thought. You are comparing two things than cannot be compared at all.
The characters develop, probably not in a satisfactory way but they don't feel out of place. The vague terms and loose simbology it's used as fuel for metaphores and concepts and most of them can be figured out to an extent (because a lot of things are very vague in a deliberated manner) and when the series arrives to its end it gives you a lot of food for thought that if you don't watch with nihilist cinicism can be quite mindblowing if you keep remembering that this serie fucking aired in the end of 1995.
Apart from that, you don't specify how long ago did you watch it and from the video you make it look like you are talking out of your ass from something you watched when you were an early teen. The series literally has: The show, a movie, a recap movie (2 but count as one), then the "Rebuilds": You are (not) alone, You can (not) Advance, You Can (not) Redo. And then the "3+1" last movie.
From start to finish, this series has been there for almost 30 years, and although I didn't really like the rebuilds that much and I chose to prefer the ending from "End Of Evangelion" (1997 Movie), the end of the "3+1" that basicly screams "Grow up, let go, touch grass motherfuckers" is insanely cathartic.
Anyway, this is a 4 year old video with 16k comments, nobody will fucking care about this half assed essay but I wanted to share my thoughts about it because I felt kinda betrayed by this video, not because you think that Evangelion is bad, but because your reasoning is super simple, poorly thought, weak and your examples are bad as best or ill concieved at worst. I feel a bit sad because I think a video of you actually putting effort into understanding NG: EVA (including rebuilds and all) and then bashing it with good reasoning and without shitty out of place examples would be a banger.
TLDR: Your opinion here sucks super bad, the criticism brought up is incredibly poor and the comparisons made are super shitty, unfair and out of place. You don't even keep in mind that the show was first aired during late 1995/early 1996. You didn't watch neither the first movie ending (1997), neither the rebuilds or the pretty catharthic end of the saga with the "3+1" movie, yet you frivolize everything like you are above it.
Honestly I'm disapointed because I think that a video of yours actually understanding the show, and after watching the movies and the rebuilds being critic (either you love it or hate it) would be super dope because you normally bring good points in a fun way.
i read all of this, thank you for saying basically everything I wanna say about this half-assed (from an analyzation point of view) video. Its especially funny that he didnt watch the movies that basically address and not-so-subtlety mock people like him who want shinji/asuka/whoever to use the power of anime to muster up some sort of courage inside himself to drill to the heavens and uhhh "be like this one 14 year old who was a really brave soldier kinda like gurren laggan isnt that so badass!! woo war and widespread death is so epic guys!!!". the movies address and show people like him what eva would look like if it was directed by people who thought like he did, making asuka less of a "bitch" and more open to her emotions, making shinji less of a "pussy" and making rei more independent, confident and aware and a whole bunch of other changes a typical anime watcher would expect out of a typical anime. I know this is 4 years old but Scamboli was literally too lazy to watch the movie that addresses his "unanswered questions" and it showed his inability to put effort into viewing the world from any other perspective than his own preffered way of viewing it. Sometimes the world isn't sunshine and rainbows and hope, the depths of what the worst can offer shows itself to many but eva STILL tells you to still try despite the infinite well of emptiness one might feel from sinking into what the worst of the world can offer non-consensually.
Don't know anything about you...this is your first video that I have seen, but love your personality. Great humor spread throughout the review 10/10
I thought Misato’s backstory (her father issues, her unwillingness to become a mother herself) were quite potent and personal. DemolitionD describes it more succinctly than I could.
Oh the guy with the bad dog
@@ScamboliReviews the bad dog is now dead :(
Wow its been a while since i've seen someone mention Demo, easily one of the best anime youtubers and pioneered a now hugely over-saturated video archetype. Still watch his streams occasionally but its like he wants to block out what hes done on youtube or something, has no interest in talking about it and just ignores comments about it.
“The Peepee Poopoo Complex” actually would be something they’d put into a brand new movie if they wanted to 💀
oh my god, two minutes in and already you said exactly how i felt. Eva had so many mysteries that i was so interested to learn about but we got nothing.
eva isn't about the robots, the world or angels. If you watched it expecting it to actually be about that stuff its not for you.
@@jotteredits
Why put all that stuff in the show, then? Why bother teasing it? If the show's not about that stuff, why couldn't Eva have just been a normal high school drama, or something? Then people wouldn't get into it with false expectations.
@@Couch_Banana because the characters mental state is put on display by putting them in intense situations. That’s the role of the mechs in the story. Evangelion is clearly from the start not focused on the mechs.
@@jottereditsthat doesn't really invalidate the critique
@@iwanttodiebutimtoobigofacowardyes it does
I love Eva not because of the plot of the story but because of the message behind it that different for each people and packaged in aesthetically pleasing animations. I totally get that not all people find enjoyment with these type of films tho.
Honestly the plot is great too, if you really go into the lore and stuff, but yeah, the message is what's important.
THIS!! What is amazing about Eva is that even though the lore and worldbuilding is actually really damn interesting, it's never what the anime was ever about. This was never a show about robots and angels and cool fights. It's a show about people, it's an extremely deep and engaging exploration of the human psyche in it's darkest moments, everything else is just a vehicle so that the true story can shine.
That's vague and subjective.
The imagery was also just for looks, no real symbolism. The sci fi stuff was really cool though, I like their underground armored city and all the tech stuff.
@@TheCompleteMental If you don't get the symbolism you're dumb. And the message, even if vague and subjective, is the main part of the show. People that only like Eva for it's action and tech aren't fans of the actual show.
@@TheCompleteMental Different strokes for different folks. I guess at the end of the day there's a difference between people who consume media for pure entertainment and those who consume media for the artistic and "deeper" reasons. Neither is necessarily better than the other, it's just different taste.
I love vague and subjective stories personally, but I also don't see anything wrong with watching dumb fun movies with no real message either. Just keep in mind that the purpose of movies, series, and even some videogames, isn't to just be entertaining. They are genuine forms of artistic expression, they can help us understand ourselves and the way we interact with each other. There's nothing wrong with just pure fun entertainment, but please don't underestimate the value of more vague and artistic projects like Evangelion.
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Thank you bro :)
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my mans, the focus of eva wasn't the angels and evas, nerv and seele. it was about the friends we made along the way(and a bunch of other philosophical shit)
i underdtand what you mean but the focus was definitely evas and angels, at least the first 15 episodes. if they're not going to answer them properly, what's the point of placing those details?
Hedgehogs delema
i think i dont like salad.
@@diamartin6865 yo bro so the first 15 episodes are all about these evas fighting vs angels right? Because i started watching this anime and i thought that it would be fill by psychological, philosophical and these type of shit but all i can see are these fight between these things in every single scene. Im getting really bored and pissed off about this series.
@@brando5392 keep going you'll like it
Although i loveeeeee evangelion, i feel like every point made is highly reasonable. The reasons for liking this anime are usually for the stylistic choices for me, the animation and the mystery is pretty fun, even if there isnt an answer, i think its still highly entertaining, btw, as an eva fan, the movies were great if u want to give eva another shot!
i love eva and it changed my life in some points, but it is really good to have well argumented critics and opinions against it, its not perfect and it has faults, thank you
Evangelion x overrated
@@Jake-nm3tb nop, it isnt, it is just not the frenetic shonnen we are used too
I saw it from the opposite prospective, and i think most fans of evangelion probably agree:
I don't give a shit about the whole robot/angel war, and yes it is just too messy to be appreciable. For the whole series i was wondering to see more stream of consciousness of the characters and less action scene, i am totally into characters minds state.
Evangelion is all about feelings, loneliness, social issues and depression, and go through that very deeply. To me the last episode (the original not the movie) is still one of the coolest creation of humanity i've ever seen.
But i understand that if you had never feel a pussy like shinji, then you cannot like it.
That's a real interesting perspective, it honestly makes me understand why people like it a little bit more. I thought the characters were "unrelatable", but I can see how someone who identifies with shinji would like the series a lot more. Thanks for the comment.
@@ScamboliReviews have you rewatched the series now that you're older. Also these characters feel like real character instead of cardboard cut outs. I heard from some people the reason they don't like Eva because the characters feel rather real
Damn I just liked it for some of my favourite action scenes in anime and the mad lad quality op!
You seem like a confident boi. That’s cool. When someone says “put yourself in the characters shoes” it sounds like a cop out. However, being depressed really did make the characters in this show seem relatable and added a layer of depth to them. Your analysis of these characters, especially Shinji, seems to boiled down to “they’re pussies with daddy and mommy issues”. Ok, sure I’ll grant you that. But, why is that a bad thing? You have emotionally damaged people in a fucked up world trying to make sense of it all.
I won’t say the character development is the best, it’s not. But i feel like there’s more there than you think. Misato had shit relationship with her dad and then he saved her from dying. That would fuck with me, man.
Maybe you’d roll your eyes to the thought of people being depressed. I don’t know if you’ve ever felt depression as an actual condition but man I’ll tell you there are days where I can feel this shit moving around in my brain like a fucking parasite.
I’m not trying to convince you to like Eva. I can see how many people don’t. It’s not for everyone. 🤷🏻♂️ It’s a show thats as flawed as it’s characters and the creator is clearly a few screws short. As funny as this criticism was I do have to say I feel like some of it was a bit shallow. But, that’s just my take. Enjoyed it nonetheless.
I have being a pussy...a lot lol but I don’t related to shinji maybe before( the first time I watched I like evangelion) but now I honestly don’t, and don’t get me wrong I have enough dosis of reality to have been depressed, fill with hate and regrets ,lost dear ones etc but it’s just to flatand out of nowhere imo, I feel like his writing (evangelion as a whole)could have been way better but it will have make evangelion in a slice of life probably meh just my 2 cents, different tastes.
This show is best understood as a metaphor for struggling with crippling depression. Trying to understand the actual plot will get you nowhere. (I like the video btw, just making an observation).
Eva is definitely an experience, not plot driven, try to tell me the plot of End of Evangelion.
James McKenna the people who like the show like it because they relate to the characters. It’s not really plot-driven. If that’s not appealing to you - fine, keep it moving.
@@Gundamguy-py3ir Fanta takes over the world.
@@pabloosset2533 I'd say Miso soup. Lol 😂
Anno thought of this too but no, people complained
Me, a massive Evangelion meat rider, watching this. “This is all so true!!!”
Then why are you an Eva fan?
@@Jake-nm3tb because big robot fight monster raaaagh
@@Jake-nm3tb I like the characters, ost, and concepts. I also find myself enamored by the message of the show despite all of its world building flaws.
I just finished the original series and the following film. I went in to it expecting a great anime (because I knew it had a big following) but I found myself pretty disappointed at it. And this video summarizes perfectly my thoughts.