The Nice ... Karelia Suite Live 1969
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- The Nice (Keith Emerson) - Karelia Suite 1969 using Hammond L100 with Leslie cabinets.
The video shows Emerson throwing his L100 about and using the on/off switch to create the great rock effects that he has become known for - Emerson had previously learnt about these 'tricks' some years earlier from the legendary organist Don Shinn who played organ with The Soul Agents.
Keith Emerson acknowledges that Don Shinn was a pioneer within the progressive rock movement during the late 60's and that he, Shinn, had a major influence on Emerson's style of playing.
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tierce-de-picar...
I'm older than dirt now and my end is near. As I look back I realize all the great music my ears have been treated too. Certainly Keith Emerson and the Nice are very near the top of that list. Thanks you to whomever for posting this. Five Bridges album holds a special place in time and my heart.
Thanks for listening
In Heaven, Jean Sibelius and Keith Emerson must be having good time jamming together.
I just finished listening to "The Five Bridge Suite". And now KARELIA SUITE !!!!!!!! I have the original Nice vinyls. I'm old....... and I've been listening to Nice and Elp for more than 40 years, every time I like them more and more.... and I continue to do so
A great piece of music by one of the greatest keyboard maestros you'll ever know ...and the other band members.
Keith Emerson - True genius
Pure magic, RIP Kieth, the like of you will never be seen again sad to say
Tight knit band and emerson heralded the way in which the keyboard could live with the lead guitar. Sheer brilliance . Keith R.i.p
Yes. Sad. But fifty years on, and what they did is still contemporary, and the band is still regarded as hot. Thank you, Lee. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Keith. I suspect your music will still be played one hundred years from now. You made your mark.
RIP Keith Emerson.
You soundtracked my teens.
Saw them once, in Preston, Lancs. Amazing !!!!!
in my youth and the beginning of prog-rock.....where are those times....
We must bring those times back !
I was fortunate to have seen 'The Nice' years ago, in Watford. They were, as you'd expect, jaw-droppingly brilliant, flawlessly, stylish, and, just as importantly, all enjoying playing for us.
i too was lucky,or wise enough to see them a lot from 68-70,including their last london concert at fairfield halls croydon.i then went to the isle of wight 1970 festival,but was very disappointed with elp,who on paper shouldve been great,but they had replaced the perfect blend of jazz,psychedelia,and classicism with a kind of pompous bombastic mix ,with tinny sounding moog synthesis
@@keithchiv6166 My thoughts exactly - swapping passion for pomp
I would have loved more than anything to have seen these guys perform live, alas I was born years and years after this all came and went
Glad it's still all here to come back to :)
Er war seiner Zeit voraus. Ein Musiker der Sonderklasse.
R.I.P Mr Emerson ....I saw this group in 1969 at Stamford Hill Loyola Hall, Remarkable
Happy days.
borrowed a record player and Five Bridges lp , never heard The NIce before , when this played I thought I had broken something !!!! Been a fan ever since all three made a marvellous contribution .
Karelia has always been my favourite track of "Ars Longa" . It never bores me, and it never tires me out. Brandenburger #3 on side two I don't know how many I listened to that particular track, though I always seem to forget where it starts, since there are no divisions made on side-2 of that vinyl.
Karelia suite is not on the" Ars longa vita brevis" album.Its on the "Five bridges" album.
@@pbstratocaster Totally wrong. Homework required. All the same: Stay free, p. R 🍻 😎 🌠
I brani di Keith Emerson sono stati per tanti ragazzi ( me compreso), un valido strumento per conoscere la musica classica.
Non smetterò mai di ringraziarlo , riposa in pace Keith .
marco menchinelli Anch me quando ero giovane
Certo!
Saw them in Glasgow, Dec '67, second bottom of the bill to Hendrix! Jimi was sat in a side balcony seat watching. Seems he thought they were brilliant. Years later, ELP nearly became HELP!
Green's Playhouse IIRC. The Nice were the star turn for me. I remember Hendrix tuning his guitar while playing a solo. Oh to be back!
No
Before Carl was in the picture
Hendrix, Emerson, Lake and Mitchell more likely
HELM
50 Years ago, i was 15... sins this time, i love this piece .
Saw them at the Town Hall Birmingham for very,very cheap in about this year..Keith tried to play the Town Hall organ but it was locked.
Very sad to hear of Keith's tragic death .... RIP Keith.
So much feeling for musical expression! All three musicians paint a musically impressionistic soundscape. It's only now that I'm beginning to understand the great influence this kind of making music had on me. Who is still concerned with such musical interpretations of classical music today? Who?
I spoke to lee jackson a few weeks ago. Keith was due to come over for lee's wedding.
I will never forget the nice at the ritz in Bournemouth 1968
bigtone1348 iiiQ
Always fantastic to see and watch, since I saw and heard it the first time in the early 70-ties.
saw emo and nice in reunion tour. 2001.. he stood at the keyboard and played 3 hours... brill performance...sadly missed.
RIP Keith Emerson
RIP Keith. A truly inspired great keys player.
The most underrated keyboard player in rock R.I.P. Keith.
Paul Robinson Real good and talented musicians sre always underrated like most artisrs
I can't believe some people... You must be some sort of fucking moron... Banging on about someone who was UNDERRATED... Compared to who for fuck's sake... I love Keith Emerson but I cannot conceive that he would have counted himself as UNDERRATED... He won numerous keyboard polls ahead of Rick Wakeman and Tony Banks ( were they underated also ??? )... Underrated people are the ones you very rarely hear of - Keith was with one of the biggest bands on Earth in the 70's .... You want underrated, try Woolly Wolstenholme or Dave Sinclair or Jon Evan....They hardly hit the headlines of the NME or Melody Maker, they just battled on with their decent little bands - I really get pissed off with this UNDERRATED shit.... Some knob wrote on another site that LYNYRD SKYNYRD were underrated, and another plonker had WISHBONE ASH down as the same... Just what the poor sods who played with GRAVY TRAIN, GRYPHON, BOXER. TEMPEST , TRAPEZE et al make of stupid remarks like that as they struggled to eke out a living I don't know... UNDERRATED !!... fuck...
excuse me in what sense you define keith emerson underrated, when by who
For me that , by the age of 6, was i child with a lot of records of classical music in the house, Keith was a discover that pull me to play keyboards..
Great to see this and especially great to see the Nice without crazy camerawork!
Martin Leach - better than some, but still too many extreme closeups
YES ! I totally agree with that.
Why did everyone think you had to replicate an acid trip when they were filming back then ?!
He had his best rythym section right there . Good old Brian , brill jazz drummer , Lee Jackson great symphonic style bassist and don't forget Davy O list , great guitarist . The mind boggles ! 🤔😎👍 LOL x
Absolutely Marvellous !. Wonderful Playing. Fantastic invention. Brilliant.
The Nice, Five Bridges brought me to classical. Thank you Keith, Lee and Brian.
so great
These guys were amazing!
BTW, if you are wondering why moving the organ changes the pitch, the L-100, like most Hammonds of the time, were electromechanical. It had a heavy steel shaft inside with 87 notched wheels, all with a different number of notches. This shaft is rotated by a motor at 1800 RPM. Each wheel has a magnetic pickup, something like the one used for an electric guitar string. The impulses from those wheels is what is used to generate the key tones. All this mechanical hardware is why Hammonds weighted so much. And if you rotate the organ as Emerson is doing here, the shaft speeds up and slows down slightly, and the pitches change as well.
They were very heavy, which made them hard to tour with.
@@petermccaffrey806 I have a C3 at home. It's close to 500 lbs, if you include the pedal clavier.
He also manipulated the one-off switch to change pitch and for effect.
People who think Jon Lord or Rick Wakeman were the greatest keyboardists especially in that era always forget Keith Emerson. In fact he was the one - the only one. In this solo - for example - he is playing more blue notes than Wakeman throughout his whole career and he he shows fantasy and skills that Jon Lord might have dreamt of.
+anonymusum When this (and later the "Five Bridges"version) was being performed by Nice/Emerson, Jon Lord was little more than laying a foundation for Richie Blackmores' leads or taking traditional blues-based solos such as "Hush". Similarly, Rick Wakeman was a sideman for "The Strawbs" and later an ensemble player for David Bowie; hardly what we see here from Emerson.
+Butch Bradley What are you telling me? The Five Bridges Suite came before Jon Lord´s so called Symphony for Group and Orchestra. And secondly as a keyboardist it doesn´t matter if you are laying some foundations for guitar players or if someone plays for pop bands like The Strawbs or Bowie. The only thing that matters is what you are doing on the keyboards and here´s Emerson miles ahead of Lord and Wakeman. - To be very honest: especially Jon Lord impressed me with his work with Purple on the first three or four albums. But after that he did not or could not develop his skills at all - I guess he just did not practice anymore. His keyboard work simply became boring and not very sophisticated. And if you listen to that famous California Jam concert with ELP and Purple it´s a miracle to me that Jon Lord had the guts to enter the stage and play his usual routine whereas Emerson set new dimensions in keyboard work. And as a last point: I love The Nice and ELP as there is no guitar player. But playing in a trio is a hard job that Wakeman might have managed as well, Jon Lord - no way.
+anonymusum You're misreading my statement. We concur. Neither Wakeman nor Lord were in a class with Emerson. In my view, Emerson's work with Nice (even sans a synth) exceeded anything Wakeman or Lord did henceforth. The only player I thought could challenge Keith Emerson on one of his instruments may have been Brian Auger on Hammond; but challenge and exceed is up to interpretation. And I played keyboards, as well.
+Butch Bradley Sorry - I really misread your post. But as a keyboardist by myself I somehow get a permanent shake of my head when people think Jon Lord was the God of Hammond.... And by the way: I had a lousy L100 in my early days and heard a lot of L100s throughout the years. But noone got that sound that Emerson produced on Karelia or America. Yeah - Brian Auger in his contemporary shape could be compared. This guy practiced a lot and you can hear it. But in the old days I think he was overrated. Anyway - some time ago I was asked to play the keyboards in a Dream Theatre cover band so I started to study their stuff. Rudess is very good of course but the stuff is so boring - it is only fast with many time changes. No blue notes, no exciting riffs, no real groove, no nothing. So I rejected although they were going to play a show with a symphony orchestra. It seems that Emerson will be on the peak of rock keyboards for quite a while. - And sorry again ....
+anonymusum What do you mean with "People... always forget Keith Emerson"?? The man's a legend! And quite rightly so.
A rare sighting of our maestro on film at the controls of a Hammond M102; Keith's usual weapon of choice being the L100.
What a great band!, Saw them at the free concert in Hyde Park in the late 60s, also used to see Brian ' Blinky' Davidson play with The Mark Leeman Five at the Marquee club mid sixties!, Great times! We thought they'd never end.
Nice catch...!
Great clip. Prefer the version on the Five Bridges LP, but this is neat to see.
this was such a "Nice" bunch of persons to communicate with each other note by note ... miss that kind of interaction between each other badly
You were a trailblazer man.....
I learnt this piece note for note.... how you played it.... Did it in my boarding school after seeing you live in BATH 1969.....
+Tony Brannon I too was there in Bath 69!
+Torson Falcradine Hey shout me on facebook.com/bermudalennontribute
+Tony Brannon Friend request sent
Aaron Copeland loved Emerson's version of his Fanfare for the Common Man, and allowed ELP to record and release it on the Works I album. Like the Karelia suite here, Emerson did an extended solo on Fanfare, and Copeland found Emerson's solo "very strange". But he still liked it. lol
lets not forget lee and Brian........lee is the only survivor now...so sad...
maybe youve forgotten dave o list ? who was alive when i last spoke to him on 24/09/2018 at the roundhouse camden,and i would have heard if he had gone. it is frightening, when i saw him,he had a girl with him and in an admirable sense of modesty, he was glad that i remenbered him.it was so uncanny,that i last saw him at the roundhouse in1978,with his fiancee,and was equally as modest.in my mind it seemed like 10-20 years before,but 40 years had gone so fast!
@@keithchiv6166 ELP’s performance at Isle of Wight was hugely forgettable in a musical sense. You’d think they’d only just met.
@@keithchiv6166 💚 Thank you, K. R 🍻 😎 🌠
Excelente interpretación y adaptación ! R.I.P.
My old man used to go potty when I listened to music like this.
Snap. Best wishes.
Keith Emerson a true giant never forget
I got the record from my sisters husband in the 70th. I will ever thank Toto for that gift.
thanks for posting this - I'm amazed at how SLOW they are compared to ELP! but the Nice paved the way...
Interesting: the organ phrasing at around 7:13 is reminiscent of "Changing States" from ELP's Black Moon album.
where it all began wow TY
R.I.P. Keith!
Master Keith RIP
It’s amazing how much you can get out of a Hammond L-100...if you know what you’re doing.
Yeah the L series organs are great but his pre amps were modded for more intensity for sure.
If you close your eyes you can hear Keith having a future déjà vu and inventing ELP.
Brilliant 🤗
Excellent. Thanks for posting.
Lee is actually slaying it on bass in this...
Yes
Bow technique a little suspect maybe
'Nice' post ..... epic old school KE
Keith was very nice!
RIP KEITH
BUENA GIRA
Here you have a different Keith Emerson, with Brian Davison on drums and Lee Jackson on bass.
What's the difference? Emerson is playing with the usual talent, but without the paraphernalia that he will add in ELP jpoining on this with Karl Palmer.
The guys in ELP seemed to me to have the best and worst features of adolescence.
Crazy talented and precocious to beat the band, but judgement and restraint was often absent.
For instance, to me it's tragic how they eventually seemed to narrow down to a desperately immature strategy to freshen up even their most extraordinarily well-crafted passages, namely to rev the tempo up *yet* another notch or three.
And I think they suffered from an unusual combination of character traits which do not combine well: iconoclasm does not sit comfortably with sensitivity to criticism.
@@Gottenhimfella Time. Place. Realisation. Appreciation. Stay free, G. From a forever twenny-one year old 70 year-old who experienced those old times. Did you ever meet these individuals? 🍻 😎 🌠
R.I.P.
Buddy
I saw them at the Marquee in London. Great gig.
I like that tone the bass player getting out that hollow body.
R.I.P Keith
Very Nice,..
I got a live version of this with an orchestra on cassette tape I think at the Filmore East. Seeing how he does his feedback and sound effects puts it all into perspective than just hearing it. Awsome! I read sometime back in the late 1980s how he was the "Jimi Hendrix of the keyboard". Has anybody else ever heard that quote?
Very Best!!!!!!!!
Note, how Emo does on 5 min. turn on or up the MARSHALL and the again soon after adjusting it further still. That is when the effect of distortion is on full and the feedback happens, (with him rotating the organ),
...so the Lesley is for the smooth sound, mainly. ....agreed?
plus - the chorus effect (Lesley) does not help feedback control in general , actually has a diminishing effect on feedback or makes go wildly out of control at titanic volume , ...hard to get out of the rotating speakers....the Marshall amp . has a direct sound heading towards the instrument, being guitar or as here the Hammond,
that bass has got some kick, old iron motorcycle club
NICE.
ANTÓNIO MANUEL GOMES MEIRELES Yes,nice indeed
on écoute toujours ! ETERNEL
I could listen to Brian Davison's swinging jazzy drums and tasty cymbal splashes forever. Not so with Carl Palmer.
Lee Jackson didn't have the greatest pipes as a singer.... but the Nice definitely swung better than Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. I think even Emerson would have acknowledged that.
I can agree there. ELP straight out rocked despite Carl's attempt to "swing". I liked it nonethless.
Jackson could swing. Would have loved to heard Keith jamming with some of the straight ahead jazz drummers (Tony Williams, Jack DeJohnette)…...
Saw the nice reunion at the Barbican way back now. The concert consisted of the original Nice in the first half and then Emerson playing ELP stuff with some young guys. Needless to say The Nice were still the superior band. At the end, there was a drum battle with Davison the clear winner.
The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack.....
Keith Emerson !
Great
Hi ; glad to learn about Don Shinn influence ; was he also for the " lifting/ bouncing /shaking / knife effects on the organ ? .
Hope to buy a Hammond soon .
We love you Keith ; now you are our " Spiritarkus "
Formidable!
It's not bad but in my mind and brain it was very much better, but such is Life. I'm stumblin' to 74. Sorry, the end was very good
number one..
Originally this title is with classical orchestra and trio :emerson plays all!!!
Jean-Luc Chapelon The Nice did perform this with an orchestra, but the original recorded version was just the band on the "Ars Longa Vita Brevis" album.
Unless you mean the piece as Sibelius himself actually wrote it!
Never got to play at the Proms. Now young black singers that spell their name in capitals get to top the bill.
In my car cd player right now
miss you KE.. wusb.fm NY
Emmer List Dav Jack!
"C O N E L A U S P I C I O D E"
why comparing... all these three are/where amazing
Does anyone know who was the first person to play bowed electric bass ? Earliest practitioners ? Cheers..thanks for posting.
I formerly thought this was done on the mighty C3, but I don't think Emerson had a C3 with the Nice. He couldn't have tossed it around anyway. I once had a top-heavy Porta-B, but I didn't dare try to toss it or jump over it, in the interest of avoiding paraplegia.
It's the L-100. Emerson liked to move the organ around, and the B3 is like 400 pounds. The L100 only weighted 245 pounds. Plus the L-100 had some tabs which were convenient for live playing.
Goooöd!
I agree the best of Keith is way less boring than every other rock/pop musiciam ever.
There are maybe 2 jazz musicians consistenly more creative than even Keith
The genius of Keith Emerson at the organ ! There has never been an organ battle with Jimmy Smith, Joey De Francesco, or Lonny Smith. This would have been quite a scene, I think Keith won the battle in the end. !
The Nice were innovative in a couple years like ELP in a decade.
Thats not saying that ELP was bad in any way,just they somehow lost their way to
gigantism. Anyway,ELP + Jackson Heights is pretty much The Nice. I like the all.
quality
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On which Album , I found this Version ?
Five Bridges Across The Tyne
Alguien dijo fulvo?
Blinky Davison was a far greater jazz combo drummer than Carl Palmer
ELP version 1.