80 year old Cat D2 Dozer with issues.. Worth buying or a can of worms??

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2022
  • This vintage 5j Caterpillar D2 was put up for auction at a clearing sale recently, nobody wanted it so I went to check it out. Its a cool old machine but is quite worn out and has some major issues.
    What do you think its worth?
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  • @nzsaltflatsracer8054
    @nzsaltflatsracer8054 Před 2 lety +659

    Like an old hooker with new lipstick, not something you should take home!

  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla Před 2 lety +329

    Looks like it's had the typical spray can overhaul.

    • @theoriginalmilenko
      @theoriginalmilenko Před 2 lety +30

      hey , hey , hey...thats a PROFESSIONAL REBUILD right there!

    • @EbonyPope
      @EbonyPope Před 2 lety +10

      Most surfaces look quite smooth for a spray can overhaul.

    • @JoeAroner-SIWAYTV
      @JoeAroner-SIWAYTV Před 2 lety +15

      It makes it really hard to assess the condition with all that new paint.

    • @bluedunn374
      @bluedunn374 Před 2 lety +10

      First red flag... no wonder it didn't sell.

    • @Everfalling
      @Everfalling Před 2 lety +10

      in housing terms this would be called a landlord special.

  • @krtwood
    @krtwood Před 2 lety +222

    For Marty this is like seeing a lost puppy in the middle of the road for a regular person. But if the puppy wants $2500 to get in the car I think the puppy can manage on its own.

    • @Matty.Hill_87
      @Matty.Hill_87 Před 2 lety +3

      😭😂

    • @BradGryphonn
      @BradGryphonn Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah, I'm kinda like Marty. I live in a vintage bus that is going to take more money than I'll ever have to get back on the road. So it's for sale and I'm downsizing to a crew cab ute.

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger Před rokem +1

      i laughed way too hard at this

  • @N1RKW
    @N1RKW Před 2 lety +234

    I don't know much about dozers, but that one looks like a lawn ornament to me. The fresh rattle-can rebuild is a huge red flag also.

    • @El_Chompo
      @El_Chompo Před 2 lety +31

      The annoying thing I realized is how the paint hides the whole history of the machine. All of the marks and stains and hints about the quirks and eccentricities are gone, and it makes it harder to diagnose the parts that need fixing because you would see things like more worn down fasteners on the parts that acted up more often for instance, or the stains of a regularly leaking piston.

    • @diestanding4762
      @diestanding4762 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah you don’t know anything quite true

    • @scania1982
      @scania1982 Před 2 lety +5

      Marty makes money by making them work on video.

    • @thomasc6412
      @thomasc6412 Před 2 lety +4

      @@El_Chompo Very true. The same with buying any vehicle it is worth more in its original state than a five minute spruce up.

    • @jennifervanderloop8990
      @jennifervanderloop8990 Před 2 lety +1

      @@El_Chompo Ya this is a parts machine that can drive itself on and off the trailer.

  • @Frostbite31539
    @Frostbite31539 Před 2 lety +175

    As mentioned, Squatch253 has a very detailed series covering the complete overhaul of a D2. In a recent video he mentioned that the engines ran low on oil pressure with no problems, so much so that Caterpillar released an updated oil pressure gauge with a lower acceptable pressure reading.

    • @Pilotman28
      @Pilotman28 Před 2 lety +32

      @squatch253 is the man for sure.

    • @darinmorgante7200
      @darinmorgante7200 Před 2 lety +19

      Was looking for this comment

    • @andrewslagle1974
      @andrewslagle1974 Před 2 lety +25

      @@Pilotman28 and he will tell you in that cond its a parts machine!

    • @stuartomant4033
      @stuartomant4033 Před 2 lety

      @@Pilotman28 He sure is

    • @zebai
      @zebai Před 2 lety +6

      @@andrewslagle1974 He will tell you that half the machine will have to be stripped of that horrible paint first

  • @MrImhotep2287
    @MrImhotep2287 Před 2 lety +174

    Just a heads up I've had an old cat and they didn't have wet clutches but in thier manuals the way to free them is to put kerosene in in clutch housing and every year it would stick and every year kerosene lol. Finally I decided to leave the kerosene in the housing permanently and no more problems so I used it on both clutches and as far as I know it's still working today. I sold the machine to a neighbor and I see it running from time to time.

    • @AnonNomad
      @AnonNomad Před 2 lety +33

      Comments like these make me love the internet. The odds of someone out there that remembers the technical quirks of 80 year old machinery catching this video.

    • @agentorange3774
      @agentorange3774 Před 2 lety +6

      @@AnonNomad Same

    • @evananderson3350
      @evananderson3350 Před 2 lety +2

      I wonder if that would work on my old 420 john deere

    • @MrImhotep2287
      @MrImhotep2287 Před 2 lety +5

      @@evananderson3350 Yes it will the most that you would want to do is drain the old kerosene or diesel out of the housing in a couple of weeks to get the initial rust and crap out of it. Just fill it to a level that's a couple of inches above clutches assembly so that as they're being used it slings the oil around. After a couple of drain offs you can fill it and forget it. Every year I would just have to put the dozer near a tree and every season just push against the tree until the clutches freed up then use it the rest of the year. Good luck 👍

  • @marcripoche
    @marcripoche Před 2 lety +48

    Walk away! Just my humble opinion but every part of that machine looks like it's at or beyond its useful limit. I suspect they found it abandoned in a field/forest, got it running and gave it the old rattle can restoration for a quick sale. If you'd gotten it for free I'd say have a punt and spend a bit of money repairing/replacing parts but for 2500 new Zealand pesos no way...
    That being said I do love watching you revive old girls like this, but I also don't want to see you waste your money.
    Either way, good luck :)

    • @asya9493
      @asya9493 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah, you'd need to strip it down and rebuild - ok if you're retired.

    • @andiehyde3714
      @andiehyde3714 Před 2 lety +2

      @@asya9493 But why?
      This old girls working days are behind her.
      It's a yard ornament for people who like that sort of thing.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 Před 2 lety +96

    I'd base your offer on how full the tank is.

    • @Andrew_Fernie
      @Andrew_Fernie Před 2 lety +2

      @@JohnSmith-yv6eq lol

    • @rogerbayzand4455
      @rogerbayzand4455 Před 2 lety +1

      Spot on, diesel at $2 a litre it could be worth a bit.

    • @manfredschmalbach9023
      @manfredschmalbach9023 Před 2 lety +2

      @@rogerbayzand4455 It's probably still the old stuff not yet contaminated with "bio-" selfdestructing admixtures, so even better ...

  • @rmcjr5206
    @rmcjr5206 Před 2 lety +64

    Around here scrap value would be about USD500 today. If the steering clutch can't be saved it's going to cost USD400 in parts to replace it, maybe USD200 more to reseal the cylinder. Just from the video I'd be happy if it has 200 hours left in it before it's totally scrap/parts. I wouldn't want to pay more than USD10/hr (plus maintenance costs, of course) to use it, so USD10x200 hrs = USD2000 +USD500 scrap = USD2500 - USD600 in parts - USD500 worth of my labor = USD1400 that I would pay for it. Your numbers will vary, but that's how I like to price my projects that are for my own use.

    • @KiwiExpressCream
      @KiwiExpressCream Před 2 lety +2

      The NZD2500 Marty is willing to offer is about USD1600 so not far off what you would be willing to pay.

    • @prinzeugenvansovoyen732
      @prinzeugenvansovoyen732 Před 2 lety

      the transport cost for heavy haul is already more than scrap value if you dont tear into it where it stands and send it directly to the scrap if its npot worth saveing

    • @rmcjr5206
      @rmcjr5206 Před 2 lety +1

      @@prinzeugenvansovoyen732 I think they are only like 8k lbs aren't they? I don't know the rules in NZ but around here that's not even pushing the limit of what your average guy with a 1 ton and an equipment trailer can haul.

    • @rmcjr5206
      @rmcjr5206 Před 2 lety

      @@KiwiExpressCream I assume parts prices, scrap price, and his labor will have different values than mine. I was just using myself in my locale as an example.

    • @horstszibulski19
      @horstszibulski19 Před 2 lety

      Good calculation, if parts and labour will double the buying price, it's hard to decide...
      :-/

  • @murphymmc
    @murphymmc Před 2 lety +54

    A good one to pass on Marty. Lots of work, lots of expense and it'll still be a worn out machine. There's a better one somewhere out there. Nice day for a drive though.

    • @easttexan2933
      @easttexan2933 Před 2 lety +4

      I disagree.

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 Před 2 lety +5

      100% agree. Unless you have time and $20,000+ to fix a worn out unit. This thing need a complete teardown, check out Pacific Northwest Hillbilly's project on an old dozer similar to this.

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon Před 2 lety +2

      @@easttexan2933 Then, buy it !

    • @easttexan2933
      @easttexan2933 Před 2 lety

      @@marcryvon would you be willing to pay for shipping to Texas?

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis Před 2 lety

      @@easttexan2933 You seem keen for other people to spend their money on worn out crap, why wouldn't you pay to get it shipped?

  • @Wairoakid
    @Wairoakid Před 2 lety +30

    Squatch253's channel is the expert on Caterpillar D2 restoration.

    • @cv990a4
      @cv990a4 Před 2 lety +4

      And operation. What Squatch253 doesn't know about D2s isn't worth knowing.

    • @phooesnax
      @phooesnax Před 2 lety +1

      The tip of tips.

    • @cv990a4
      @cv990a4 Před 2 lety +1

      Might start here - Squatch253 video on how to assess the value of a D2: czcams.com/video/EzdZGTQ9Zhs/video.html

    • @ericpaul4575
      @ericpaul4575 Před 2 lety +2

      Also he just ha a video on how Cat says the D2 will run on low oil pressure with no issues. That 10PSI is good.

    • @Just_Mike_A
      @Just_Mike_A Před 2 lety

      @Jambo or the X231

  • @puirYorick
    @puirYorick Před 2 lety +49

    Straight off the top I have to wonder what the "Dulux restoration" was meant to conceal. Someone took a bit of trouble to do all that. Maybe she was in a vintage iron parade.

  • @richardw.foxhall3392
    @richardw.foxhall3392 Před 2 lety +32

    Here's a thought Marty, drive it only to where you need to hook up stuff to that PTO, chipper, pumps, saw mill that Cat could power a lot of implements without pushing or pulling much. Even though the draw bar looked pretty good.

    • @johnmccallum8512
      @johnmccallum8512 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah as a donkey engine it would be unbeatable IMHO

  • @Isthatyoudermot
    @Isthatyoudermot Před 2 lety +5

    The words "Dulux" and "Knackered" make this Irish guy living in the US feel in good company on the channel. Great content. Thank you.

  • @Chunky73
    @Chunky73 Před 2 lety +74

    Go for it mate. You probably don't need another dozer and yes it's a can of worms. Not to mention that $2500 is good coin to part with even if it is NZD...lol. But me like many others love your channel and are stoked to see you fix these lovely old gals. Can't wait to see the series!!!

    • @noname-nd8ec
      @noname-nd8ec Před 2 lety +2

      No pressure Marty, but if you pass this old girls going to the scrapheap

    • @Matty.Hill_87
      @Matty.Hill_87 Před 2 lety +4

      I don't know how CZcams monetization works, but eventually it would pay for it self just through the restoration videos alone

    • @LanternLabs
      @LanternLabs Před 2 lety

      @@Matty.Hill_87 Maybe, but it'd take a long time...

    • @metalrooves3651
      @metalrooves3651 Před rokem

      @@noname-nd8ec i dont know just why you limeys think its all that bad!,,the sprockets are near new..it wont run 20 hours its whole life!what a bunch of lightweights you aussie limeys are!!

  • @paraplegicbradleyschubert1328

    I’m always impressed by the way you manage to sniff out all these old machines. Keep them coming mate

  • @jamieharris74
    @jamieharris74 Před 2 lety +49

    Those engines run on less than 10psi oil pressure as standard. I was recently watching one of Squatch’s vids where he was talking about it.

    • @forbes80751
      @forbes80751 Před 2 lety +2

      I came here to see if someone else mentioned this. Squatch talked about it in his last video.

    • @yako0000
      @yako0000 Před 2 lety

      that's good to know. i haven't watched that video yet. thanks.

  • @WhyBeNick
    @WhyBeNick Před 2 lety +30

    If it's cheap and operates, it's worth doing some farm fixes and running it into the dirt. Absolutely not worth any real restoration/rebuilding though. Undercarriage is completely toast and new parts are nigh impossible to find.

  • @shize9ine
    @shize9ine Před 2 lety +22

    Always the conundrum. If you do go with it you really gotta love the cat. It looks like a gamble if its on its last legs until it needs some major time commitment or might just hang on for a few more years by fixing the obvious stuff. The wife is going to point out that you already have the TD9 that pretty much does everything a D2 could as long as its not super tight spaces. Could be lots content depending on how your audience likes the fixing/resto vs using/enjoying machinery. Could also be a good excuse to buy/get sponsored for some cool tools like hydraulic line crimpers, lathe, welding stuff, sand or dustless blaster etc.. which could then help generate content for restoring/fixing/maintaining other heavy equipment. I would try to low ball him for a bit over lawn ornament/scrap value because the owner is probably ready to pay someone to take it away. You would be doing him and the tractor a favor. Fresh paint smells of weakness.

    • @pettyfogger2305
      @pettyfogger2305 Před 2 lety +3

      When you mentioned Marty's wife, the wonderful artist it suddenly struck me that this "Tarted up" D2 would be a gorgeous subject for her next painting; sitting about frame deep in her favorite bay or estuary as it melts until only the laquer shape of the old Cat remains. It almost makes me a bit misty just thinking about it!!!!!

  • @eltonblackley313
    @eltonblackley313 Před 2 lety +9

    Drove one years ago with a backhoe mounted on the back.Took it in some crazy places. Apart from the rope start she was a reliable machine.

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer
    @mattthescrapwhisperer Před 2 lety +64

    Undercarriage parts for those old D2s are pretty much impossible to find these days. Even though it runs halfway decent, it's pretty much worth just scrap value due to all the issues.

    • @kevinhassett1891
      @kevinhassett1891 Před 2 lety +8

      almost need a second or third tractor just for parts now days look at what squatch253 goes through on the D2 he's rebuilding.

    • @mattthescrapwhisperer
      @mattthescrapwhisperer Před 2 lety +1

      @@kevinhassett1891 True enough. And he’s always mentioning the scarcity of undercarriage parts.

    • @rdeanbenson2214
      @rdeanbenson2214 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm sure Golf, Golf and Hammer in ChristChurch has or can Recon parts!

    • @rhondasmith6444
      @rhondasmith6444 Před 11 měsíci

      Junk. Don't buy

  • @Jelbishi
    @Jelbishi Před 2 lety +5

    Marty, I found your videos recently and LOVE watching them. Hello, thanks, best wishes from Atlanta, Georgia!

  • @billprinz1181
    @billprinz1181 Před 2 lety +6

    Another you tuber, squatsh253, is in the process of rebuilding a Cat D2, also a 5J. About two weeks ago he did a video on oil pressure gauges and low oil pressure. He is quite knowledgeable on old cats.

  • @kentshrader6616
    @kentshrader6616 Před 2 lety +1

    Marty, Great video! Thanks for sharing! It was a joy to watch your excitement!

  • @mikefeldmann9807
    @mikefeldmann9807 Před 2 lety +7

    A fine NZ gem commonly known as a “leaverite”. Leave her right where you found her!

  • @shakes7333
    @shakes7333 Před 2 lety +9

    Always wanted a 5J. My grandfather use to build roads and when he retired they also retired the 5J he ran. He bought it from the company and used it on his property. Several years later he sold it.

  • @Recovering_Californian
    @Recovering_Californian Před 2 lety +36

    $500-$1000 were my thoughts. There's an awful lot of work to make that dozer viable.

    • @frank-t6857
      @frank-t6857 Před 2 lety +11

      He should not go far beyond scrap price

    • @andiehyde3714
      @andiehyde3714 Před 2 lety +5

      @@frank-t6857 True. Then factor in the cost of cutting it up and transporting it so to me, it just looks like a massive pain in the butt.

    • @bonesrhodes3762
      @bonesrhodes3762 Před 2 lety +1

      500 to 1000 ? no way - they'd have to raise it to $5000 for me to haul it off

    • @manfredschmalbach9023
      @manfredschmalbach9023 Před 2 lety +1

      I wouldn't know if I could possibly rid them of that thing for 500,- only, given current diesel prices ...

    • @bobbritten5673
      @bobbritten5673 Před 9 měsíci

      500.00dollars ??that's it

  • @danielpullum1907
    @danielpullum1907 Před 2 lety +1

    I worked at CAT in Decatur,IL for 33 yr. I love Caterpillar equip. A fellow Pacific Northwest is rebuilding a D4 including a winch that has covered most of the
    problems you identified. Good Luck.

  • @captainover-tighten6729
    @captainover-tighten6729 Před 2 lety +1

    That, my friend has Mrs.T written all over it. Nothing says love like his and hers dozers!

  • @asya9493
    @asya9493 Před 2 lety +23

    With old hydraulics being pressurised its good to wear wrap around safety glasses. If they blow under load they will blast a fine fluid mist everywhere. Also if the hyds into a valve blows and your hand is on it you can lose a bit of skin, so wear thick leather gardening gloves. Any old stuff like this - replace the lines asap !

    • @remcovanvliet3018
      @remcovanvliet3018 Před 2 lety +1

      If there's a microscopic leak in a hydraulic (or diesel fuel or any other high pressure liquid like paint in an airless sprayer) you run the risk of hydraulic injection, and you stand to lose a heck of a lot more than a little skin.
      NEVER USE YOUR HAND TO CHECK FOR LEAKS IN SUCH SYSTEMS! ALWAYS USE A RAG ON A STICK! Hydraulic injection can lead to amputated limbs at a minimum, and possibly death by blood poisoning.

    • @asya9493
      @asya9493 Před 2 lety +4

      @@remcovanvliet3018 Yes ! I was talking about hand operated directional control valves - if these fail pressurised then the bits will fly at high speed and thats another way to lose a hand. And of course fully separated hoses flailing out pressure.
      There is nothing good about old hydraulics and everything bad about them. The first thing to do with the unit in the video is a 100% strip of the hyds, and you'd guaranteed find some bombs.

  • @jimthode
    @jimthode Před 2 lety +13

    I'd say more like about $1200 NZD or close to scrap value. Several years ago I bought a TD18A for scrap value that had a stuck steering clutch. I did a lot of work with it for a few years like that with no real problem. Because most dozer jobs are back and forth you just have to think ahead a little and steer going back or forward as need.

  • @bertenerny7867
    @bertenerny7867 Před 2 lety +2

    Marty, I am so looking forward to follow along on this one. Regards, Bert from Alabama USA

  • @toxicchemicals6736
    @toxicchemicals6736 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm glad you at least keep uploading bc I love watching these videos there such nice videos and helps me fall asleep listening to stuff I want to do

  • @johnbouttell5827
    @johnbouttell5827 Před 2 lety +12

    Dear Marty, this Cat was put up for auction at a clearing sale and nobody wanted it. I suspect the price is much too high. My advice: add up worst-case repair costs. If you can resell it at a profit -- make an offer. Best wishes, English John

  • @jasonatkin6787
    @jasonatkin6787 Před 2 lety +3

    The Caterpillar Yellow 'tarting up' was clearly done to divert attention away from the serious issues this old workhorse has. I know you've got the skills to make it right, so as you said, only if it's at the right price. If you do nab it, I look forward to spending my Sunday mornings watching you resurrect it!

  • @timothykiggins1601
    @timothykiggins1601 Před rokem +1

    Marty, good luck with all the rain you all have been getting down under, best from Xenia, OH, USA!!!

  • @brianmackey6923
    @brianmackey6923 Před 2 lety +2

    Cheers Marty glad to see you back

  • @hamishross5100
    @hamishross5100 Před 2 lety +12

    I did look at this dozer at the sale.. also seen a crack in the weld on the back bade ram mount on right hand side. Along with all other issues. Hydraulic hoses pretty stuffed too.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  Před 2 lety +8

      Yes I noticed that crack as well as one in the front engine mount

  • @OriginalLictre
    @OriginalLictre Před 2 lety +8

    When deciding how much to offer, make sure you factor in how much it'll cost to get it to where you'll be working on it, as well as the parts needed to update it. From comments I've read, it looks like parts would be a struggle to get, unless you want to throw the dice on fabricating some of them yourself.
    No matter how much fun you'd have doing the restoration, I think this one's been used hard enough for long enough to deserve its final rest. The fresh coat of paint also inspires me to urge caution, since it'll conceal how much of the rust is old, and may be functioning as a cheap sealant over numerous pinhole leaks.

  • @eugeneclarke5572
    @eugeneclarke5572 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the sound. My father had one but I can't remember it, but I can remember it's upgrade to the Cat D4C . My brother told me stories of skint knuckles, slipping rope in the frosty mornings.
    The upgrade came with a cab, luxurious or what

  • @peteacher52
    @peteacher52 Před 2 lety +8

    It's a hard one, Marty. Old house, old car, old tractor, old boat - are all money and time pits which only the person contemplating the purchase can decide if it's worthwhile. I have been burnt before by not doing sufficient (if any) due diligence and taking the vendor's word because he seemed a nice person. Once bitten, forever shy and a tad cynical! Col, B.ofI.

  • @miketanner1920
    @miketanner1920 Před 2 lety +3

    I would say yes if the price is right
    A lot of parts
    Seals
    Cylinders maybe chrome at best seals
    High pressure hoses
    Belts and under carriage
    That being said she's a solid old girl just needs some TLC
    I know you are just the man to give it to keep her alive and kicking
    Cheers brother
    Thank you for the great videos
    God bless
    Just saying

  • @anthonyromeo1988
    @anthonyromeo1988 Před 2 lety +3

    I think it’s worth getting if you get it at the right price. She’s 80 years old and worn out. I’m sure I’ll be worn out too at that age. old Cats are so cool. Would be a good channel project

  • @ronrichmond4694
    @ronrichmond4694 Před 2 lety +1

    Kind of agree with Johnathon Bunker. It has a bit of work to be done but if you can come up with parts at a reasonable fee then it’s probably worth the trouble probably end up serving you well. You really seem to have the knowledge and skill to get the job done. And we love watching you do the work!!! 👍❤️👍

  • @Codeman016
    @Codeman016 Před 2 lety +1

    Marty, you could repair a toaster and I would be excited. I think a lot of us would be excited to see restoration. I would definitely be tuning in to see how you do it!

  • @ronmcwhirter3641
    @ronmcwhirter3641 Před 2 lety +3

    I was 12 when I first drove a D2. That was 60 years ago. . Loved that cat. Would love to have one now . Well worth restoring I think. Yes it would be very spendy

  • @thegreatchickenoverlord5976

    > steering clutch
    Would have to be a borderline free deal to make me pull one of those final drives off with how much snot is beat out of that undercarriage

    • @thegreatchickenoverlord5976
      @thegreatchickenoverlord5976 Před 2 lety

      @@JohnSmith-yv6eq
      > each season
      That means what he had was just sticking from just sitting a season without use. What we see here is a ratty old ugly beat up farm machine, so who knows why its stuck, how stuck it is, or how long its been stuck. Not to mention apparently a bunch of people have already looked at it and turned it down

  • @LuckyMcLuckson
    @LuckyMcLuckson Před 2 lety +1

    Can't wait to see the rebuild video! I always enjoy those!

  • @russellfreeburn6284
    @russellfreeburn6284 Před 2 lety +1

    I love the idea of you taking the ol girl. A big commitment in money, time and head scratching. If all of your subscribers gave $1, that would allow you to do this project and maybe rebuilds or your other machines.

  • @fokkojansma2077
    @fokkojansma2077 Před 2 lety +6

    I would say scrap value minus the costs for transport. To me it looks more like a parts machine, then one that still can be saved. Beyond repair. Everything seems to be worn at this machine.

  • @bradweston5342
    @bradweston5342 Před 2 lety +36

    Firstly remember, this was left behind at a clearing sale! It's going to cost them to get it hauled away!
    We all know you could fix this (and enjoy watching you do it) but, at the end of the day, it's simple maths. Is the time and cost fixing it worth the end product?
    Now, as I've mentioned before, I'm the first to subscribe to Jeremy Clarkson's theory of machinery having a soul, character, and the dulux restoration robs a lot of this.
    Sadly, methinks this is no more than scrap, parts, "yard art" or someting for the kids to climb on.

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 Před 2 lety +5

      @@JohnSmith-yv6eq The main one has shot bearings and crank.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  Před 2 lety +2

      @Ein Felder Do you know the machine or suspect due to low oil pressure?

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 Před 2 lety +5

      @@MartyT I don't know the machine, but for mine the signs are bad - the oil is clean and sludge free, indicating it has been serviced (well, at least once recently), and the whole machine is 105% worn to an inch of it's life. It could be the bypass valve in the filter is open, if so would be quick and easy to fix, otherwise it's pan off, oil pump replace, bearing replace if the crank isn't toast. I wouldn't walk away from this one, I'd run.......

    • @anonysend6532
      @anonysend6532 Před 2 lety +6

      Yep, agree that the Dulux restoration robs it of a lot of its character. Yard art is a good description.

    • @auzmo
      @auzmo Před 2 lety +2

      Offer them just above scrap or some other cheaper price. Not many people other than you could keep one of these running

  • @paulhitchcock9760
    @paulhitchcock9760 Před 2 lety +2

    In the early days of the collection new items were picked up for between $500 NZ and nothing at all. I fear, as the poem puts it ''those days are gone away''.
    In Sweden , Richard Andersson runs a CZcams page called ''Yesterday's Machinery'' dealing with stationary plant and farm tractors. Prices seem to be rising there also but with the odd bargain. This will be the general case I suspect .

  • @stevecook7551
    @stevecook7551 Před 2 lety +2

    This is the vintage of Cat that my grandfather would have been very familiar with , he's been dead since 1953 .

  • @aaronjohn6586
    @aaronjohn6586 Před 2 lety +35

    More issues means reduction in asking price. Then you must decide the cost of your repair time and replacement parts are worth the effort. I have rarely regretted walking away and using my time looking for something a bit better.

    • @thegreatchickenoverlord5976
      @thegreatchickenoverlord5976 Před 2 lety +8

      The problem is finding the parts. D2 undercarriage parts in good condition are getting rare these days

    • @nick4506
      @nick4506 Před 2 lety +4

      they would have to be such a reduction to go negitive, and he have to pay you to take it off his hands. the parts alone to make that thing right are worth more than a good one.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thegreatchickenoverlord5976 Most times you can make your own parts. Bearing and spindles are easy to make. Sprockets might be a bit harder yet they might be a common size. Tracks can be made as they are very simple and even worn out tracks will still hold value for the right person as this machine may never see 500 plus hour put on it again. Lot of stuff just takes some thought in how to fix them. Pony motors can be replaced with new motors and new brackets made. All pony motors do is spin the Diesel motor up to speed to get it running and then disconnect the clutch.

    • @showmemo3686
      @showmemo3686 Před 2 lety +3

      @@nick4506 I was thinking offer the seller to haul it off for $599.95

    • @nick4506
      @nick4506 Před 2 lety

      @@kameljoe21 the tracks and sprockets aint so easy. they are cast and only used on the d2. also this guy is in newzeland the pool of parts on the island is small and shipping from anywhere is very expensive.

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 Před 2 lety +4

    G'Day, mate! We thought of you at dinner last night. Grass-fed rack of lamb from New Zealand. Nice bit of tucka'.

  • @kevinchamberlain7928
    @kevinchamberlain7928 Před 2 lety +1

    Superb yard brush paint job!

  • @lyndababy
    @lyndababy Před 2 lety +1

    Beautiful little classic machine 😊👍

  • @keithlilly4007
    @keithlilly4007 Před 2 lety +4

    Marty definitely watch squatch253 for a complete to the last nut and bolt resto of that tractor. No idea how you would get parts there.. Those clutches and brakes are a big job

  • @richardjones5255
    @richardjones5255 Před 2 lety +3

    Great, at last an 'old machine' that is older than I am. It moves about as well as me, and is likely to leak its life fluids somewhat like me also. All it needs is some, (well, a lot of) TLC. It starts, stops and steers about as well as I do on two legs. However, it is full of lurch off and go, probably more than me.

  • @harviemorrow2938
    @harviemorrow2938 Před 2 lety +1

    Hiya Marty. From a bloke who recently "invested" in 6 Oliver HG3's, knowing full well that getting one going is going to be tops, dollars come very much behind the absolute magic of getting into the "guts" of these old girls. The first one is "on site" and is a 1943 vintage, the next three have no ID plates on them, and are in unmentionable condition, the last two are somewhere in between. The other wee pet I purchased is a Bristol 25 with the Perkins 3.152 motor, she runs beaut after a spend of around NZ$500 on top of the NZ$2100 purchase price. There is nothing beats sitting on that old girl in a flat(ish) paddock in third gear at full throttle! Then her starter motor does a wee "cease to function", no worries! Where I'm coming from is this: sometimes it just ain't the money. Much pleasure cam be had fiddling with them, there cannot be a price tag on that! I love testing my "fix-it" abilities too, the tougher the "fix" the more pleasure gained. I'm old enough to know that sometimes not doing something is way more painful than actually doing it. Heart should lead in this decision!

  • @bigbird2100
    @bigbird2100 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video 👍Marty on the plus side you will always find your way home left left left

  • @kathylondon-anthony368
    @kathylondon-anthony368 Před 2 lety +3

    time for bed, oh look, a marty t video.

  • @davida.p.9911
    @davida.p.9911 Před 2 lety +40

    I've never seen a cylinder leak that badly....that was a gusher! Anything can be repaired, of course, it just depends on how much money and time you want to. I think if he's willing to take 1500-2000 NZD (that's about 1825 USD for those who want to know the conversion) I think it would be a good deal. Good luck Marty! 👍

    • @einfelder8262
      @einfelder8262 Před 2 lety +5

      1:58 check out the rod on the other side - completely corroded and useless. 2:45 right hand rod looks better, but is a gusher.

    • @RangieNZ
      @RangieNZ Před 2 lety +14

      David, I think your rate is a bit off, it more like US$950-1280.

    • @jasonj5862
      @jasonj5862 Před 2 lety +5

      Math is definitely not your strong suit David. NZD .64 x 1500 = "$960 USD" .64 x 2000 = "$1280 USD"

    • @davida.p.9911
      @davida.p.9911 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jasonj5862 Unit converter from the Play Store.....not me. And notice I said ABOUT, I never said APPROXIMATELY

    • @davida.p.9911
      @davida.p.9911 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RangieNZ Again, I said ABOUT not APPROXIMATELY.......please read more carefully.

  • @bishopkinlyside8477
    @bishopkinlyside8477 Před 2 lety

    Hi , amazing old dozer , it go ok , you are the type of guy that will fix it up and make something of it , Cliff from Logan City Queensland Australia

  • @jaedonkanyid3775
    @jaedonkanyid3775 Před 2 lety +2

    I think it’s gonna be fun to watch you fix it up! Gotta ask mom first though mate! 😉

  • @JMassengill
    @JMassengill Před 2 lety +3

    That was rough. Nice video

  • @davidbeattie4294
    @davidbeattie4294 Před 2 lety +65

    How could you go wrong on this project? Other than everything possible being wrong mechanically, it does have a lovely spray can paint job. I might be tempted to take a pass on this sink hole for time and money.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 Před 2 lety +7

      Not spray can, This is likely a 5 gallon bucket of oil base rustolume yellow paint. Very likely they powerwashed it and hit a few places with heavy rust and then sprayed it thinking they could get 5k plus for it because it runs. Old machines with a good fresh paint job can bring an extra few thousand or more depending on the type of machine and style it is. Provided they do some body work to most common damaged areas.

    • @billsargent3407
      @billsargent3407 Před 2 lety +7

      @@kameljoe21 Its known in the tractor trade as a Rustoleum Tune-up

    • @Matty.Hill_87
      @Matty.Hill_87 Před 2 lety

      @@billsargent3407 😂😂

    • @assassinlexx1993
      @assassinlexx1993 Před 2 lety +1

      With the price of fuel. The cost of just getting this sad piece of iron home is something to consider.

    • @kameljoe21
      @kameljoe21 Před 2 lety

      @@assassinlexx1993 Well he already drove there. So its a wasted fuel anyways unless he is killing a few birds with the same trip.
      For me its worth about 1k USD. It might run yet its worn out and that is with travel time. I am thinking another 1 to 2k to fix it for it to be able to work another 500 to 1000 hours.

  • @caveweta
    @caveweta Před 2 lety +1

    Getting close to 400k subs now Marty, this is a viable project for a series of YT videos. Diesel Creek would give it a crack I’m sure. Good luck.

  • @donnaml8776
    @donnaml8776 Před 2 lety +1

    The beginning with the globe map was really cool. Would you show in the neighbor of where you started from that would be interesting. You don’t need to show from where you live just show from a near by town. I love maps and seeing where things are. There’s just so much history in it.

  • @richardw.foxhall3392
    @richardw.foxhall3392 Před 2 lety +3

    Oil pressure is actually in the the Cat manuals running range . 4 to 6 psi, so 10 psi you're golden mate! Buy it for $2000.00 NZD. And home with it. Squatch253 has a couple of vids on D2s you might like...lol! Cheers from another fan of yours

  • @JoeAroner-SIWAYTV
    @JoeAroner-SIWAYTV Před 2 lety +3

    For usable parts and scrap metal it’s worth $3,100NZD in the US. I’d give you $700NZD for the PTO, however shipping costs to the US nixes that deal. A good starting motor is like gold, especially for the parts. To find parts and fix this machine might cost you 2-3 times to buy as you paid for the machine, if you could find them. Those chain rails are toast, the pins and bushings definitely need to be replaced, might as well find newer chains. It would be worth parting out if you had a larger market to sell them.

  • @larsfinnset5092
    @larsfinnset5092 Před 2 lety +1

    We would love to see you fix it up! I think you should get it😁

  • @tonymckeage1028
    @tonymckeage1028 Před rokem +2

    I love the paint job, shame about the dozer!, well done Marty!

  • @EddieTheGrouch
    @EddieTheGrouch Před 2 lety +4

    Somewhere, there's an industrial park missing a display piece. Check if it's been stolen.

  • @ChannelJanis
    @ChannelJanis Před 2 lety +7

    In this situation I would pass. Too much parts required to make it work safely on those steep hills. If you could fix idler, tracks, brakes fir cheap, then maybe it is worth it. Did not see the state of cylinder rods, but if they are good, maybe resealing could fix that too.
    But if you want a bright and shiny machine, just respray one of your machines ;)

  • @dfishpool7052
    @dfishpool7052 Před 2 lety +1

    Nothing like a good challenge and as the kids grow up a nice first tractor for them! 2500 is too high a price though - perhaps try and get it for half that then it would be a reasonable project. I always wanted one of these but, unfortunately never did. Best of luck and thanks for the video.

  • @bramlemmers3881
    @bramlemmers3881 Před 2 lety +1

    Sometimes it's just best to walk away...🤣
    I got burned once on a Fordson Major diesel.
    Looked the part but turned out to be knackerd. The guy i bought it from put thicker oil in the engine to conceal that it had no oil pressure😅. Sometimes you learn the hard way. Keep up the great videos.
    Greeting from The Netherlands.

  • @scroungasworkshop4663
    @scroungasworkshop4663 Před 2 lety +3

    Looks cool and the paint job makes it look nice but this one is the CAT MP model, Money Pit. Unless you have deep pockets to buy new parts I’d leave it well alone. Those rams will need rechroming as well as seals. That drive wheel with the very rough repair looks like the spoke next to it is cracked as well. The guys in the US spend big money fixing these machines, I can’t imagine what it will cost you to buy and freight the parts.
    Good luck either way. Cheers Stuart.

  • @nineoclockhero
    @nineoclockhero Před 2 lety +30

    first thoughts, someone's put a lot into hiding the problems

  • @esqueue
    @esqueue Před 2 lety +1

    That paint job will have me running. I also laughed at how it was munching up the grass.

  • @murphyeduard7145
    @murphyeduard7145 Před rokem +1

    You gave it a workout. It pushed the blocks under pressure nicely. The tracks were tattered but didn't separate when you put it thru the moves.
    My family had a D4 wide track and it could move the dirt.
    If the price is right its a good project.

  • @VWdude278
    @VWdude278 Před 2 lety +11

    From a standpoint of how much content you could get out of this thing I'd buy it. I'd love to see you bring this back to life.

    • @marcryvon
      @marcryvon Před 2 lety +1

      Chris, you're cray ! This thing is'nt worth it's scrap weigh value ! 😳

  • @warrenspillane4552
    @warrenspillane4552 Před 2 lety +7

    My father just sold his d2 from the family farm in ruapehu district last year. Sold for 5k and was much better condition than this(only thing wrong with it was the clutch between the pony and main needed replacing if it was going to be a regular user), the blade setup was different as the side bars went all the way and wrapped round the back with a single ram at the back to a rollover bar.

  • @benradcliffe2717
    @benradcliffe2717 Před 2 lety +1

    Love from New Zealand thanks for the content, legend

  • @morteASH
    @morteASH Před 2 lety +1

    You can always tell a man who takes pride in his work by the big smile on his face when it fires up for the first time.
    No paint required on the old girl, she looks sparkly. The engine sound solid with enough torque to push about concrete blocks on tickover.
    At some point your going to have to build a museum for Marty's Mechanicle Museum (Agricultural Department).
    With the list of work still required to be done 1800 NZD would be an offer he should jump at.

    • @hiscifi2986
      @hiscifi2986 Před 2 lety

      They were empty concrete blocks..!

  • @merlepatterson
    @merlepatterson Před 2 lety +4

    You may already know of him, but Squatch253 is the man to watch for reference on everything Cat D2.

    • @MartyT
      @MartyT  Před 2 lety +4

      Yes hes a master of the d2

    • @Michael_CS615
      @Michael_CS615 Před 2 lety

      @@MartyT Kyle Christ (who also consults with Squatch) might have clues. czcams.com/channels/C2ty-qkCCZ8dKIpFMlfPow.html
      They would probably call this one a "parts tractor".

  • @jogden6632
    @jogden6632 Před 2 lety +3

    It's a runner alright. A "run for the hills from that hunk of scrap razor blades" runner.

  • @tonymckeage1028
    @tonymckeage1028 Před rokem +2

    Great Video Marty, thanks for sharing

  • @boltyk1
    @boltyk1 Před 2 lety +2

    Heeey! Congrats on 400K subs!
    Waiting for some special vid for this point! :)

  • @danhunik7949
    @danhunik7949 Před 2 lety +5

    squatch253 has a 100 videos on rebuilding a J series D2 cat. Worth a watch to see what is involved in fixing the problems on that one. He he even gives part numbers and specs for all components.

    • @Bobbywolf64
      @Bobbywolf64 Před 2 lety +1

      I think even HE would pass on this one. There are so many parts that are no longer procurable that you need several parts machines to even think of taking this on. I'd say it should be a hard pass for Marty.

  • @duard1220
    @duard1220 Před 2 lety +5

    I'd say it's worth a hair over scrap value where it sits. If the owner scraps it he'll still have to get it to the scrapyard and that's at least a couple hundred bucks. Definitely less than 1000$. With that said it would be a very interesting project.

  • @philipgoodwin8079
    @philipgoodwin8079 Před 2 lety +1

    Good paint job!

  • @mrblond750
    @mrblond750 Před 2 lety +1

    It’s so cute. But she seems to need a lot of work. That’s free or leave it transaction for me.
    Now if you’re gonna do a restore video series I’ll be watching every episode with popcorn. 🤩

  • @Havoc080
    @Havoc080 Před 2 lety +8

    While I have no doubt in your abilities to repair this Marty I do have doubts if it's worth it. 2500$ can go further somewhere else I'm sure.

  • @nobodythatyouknow241
    @nobodythatyouknow241 Před 2 lety +1

    My father in law had a d2. It sort of worked. Only one steering clutch so you had to reverse to turn the other way. Good luck finding parts.

  • @timduthie6399
    @timduthie6399 Před 2 lety +1

    I have done the right brake and clutch on a D2 5U, it's not hard but its all big parts. The track has to come off, the track fame, the drawbar and the final drive, oh and in your case the C fame with the blade. I still have the clutch plates if you want them, they need the oil burned out of them. ( In Otago.)

  • @sonny-balboa
    @sonny-balboa Před 2 lety +11

    Totally scrap value Marty! Youve got the skills, but man, thats alot of time and pingas to get that to a reliable machine

  • @outdoors5352
    @outdoors5352 Před 2 lety +21

    Owner "The Dozer has issues"
    Marty "Hold my beer"

    • @butwait
      @butwait Před 2 lety +2

      If he buys this he better replace that beer with straight up Vodka

    • @outdoors5352
      @outdoors5352 Před 2 lety +3

      @@butwait
      Vodka is a bit out of vogue at the moment.... 😅

    • @ancientbuilds3764
      @ancientbuilds3764 Před 2 lety

      @@outdoors5352 Lol!

    • @butwait
      @butwait Před 2 lety

      @@outdoors5352 ...Ukrainian Vodka ;)

  • @ancientbuilds3764
    @ancientbuilds3764 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this comment section. Somebody suggested bringing it to the nearest port. The guy who answered said: "For what? As an anchor?" lol. Cracked me up.

  • @Michael_CS615
    @Michael_CS615 Před 2 lety +2

    LOL - Dulux restoration.... might be the best part! Though the fact that it runs is a plus. As others mention - oil pressure is likely A-OK.