Chad A. I own both a Chevy and a Ford. My work truck is an 06 6.0 F-350 (studded heads and egr delete) and my daily is a 00 4.3 Blazer so I don’t discriminate. Cummins makes awesome engines and Chevy makes awesome tranny’s and if they combined them then they would make for one awesome truck.
Its easy to see this and say "tiv2 won" and to forget just how amazing both of these vehicles did. if that was any other road legal vehicle besides a tank it would have been destroyed. And the Dominator 3 now has spikes like the Tiv2.
Yes tiv 2 didn’t move but what do you expect tiv 2 was built buy a literal welding school in 2007 apart from the Cummings 6.7 and the 2007 ram 3500 frame everything on tiv 2 is custom it is a custom build tornado intercept vehicle. While srv dominator was just a average 2007 Chevy Tahoe that reed payed to build a external roll cage on the stock Tahoe body that connects to the frame then sheet metal is welded to the roll cage with Lexan windows and a coating over the metal. SRV dominator 2 was made to be stronger, more aerodynamic and tougher so reed and his team could intercept stronger tornadoes that srv dominator could not it had spikes etc . dominator 3 was made to like the previous vehicle was built to fix problems that the previous dominators had I am not saying dominator 2 was a bad vehicle but there was probably some problems that reed wanted to fix with it he had done on dom 3 🤷🏽♂️ edit yes dominator 2 or 3 would have done much better than SRV dominator 1 here especially at these wind speeds 👀
Dominator 2 does have shorter but wider anchoring spikes behind the rear tires, on top of that a more aerodynamic frame and the ability to drop down to the ground. It would likely fair better than the Dominator 1.
The TIV2 is such a heavy beast and has anchor spikes. Dominator is a bit cleaner and nicer to look at though. Bottom line if I had to drive though a tornado...I’d take either lol.
ehh id choose the TIV2 every single time. "nicer to look at" can only get you so far and in this game, it would get you killed. not to mention the dominator dude is a A1 copycatter douche
@@DanRustle The Dominator has been closer to more tornadoes than TIV2 so I question the merit behind you typing "it would get you killed"- because regardless neither of these vehicles would survive a direct hit from an EF-4 or EF-5 tornado- not to mention there's Dominator 3 now which is far more durable and advanced than Dominator 1, as well as both 2 and 3 have spikes to keep it from being blown like 1 here. And the only similarities between the TIV's & Dominator's is they're both armored vehicles aerodynamically designed to survive tornadic-winds and debris.
@@matthewtrinh8961 I’ll still take the tiv1 over my X3 in a tornado though! I’d end up in the land of oz if not lol. On a serious note though, I can see how it could have benefits over the tiv2, even though it’s bigger and heavier. When you’re driving down a maze of narrow dirt roads, chasing large erratic tornados... I’d say the smaller dominator has the advantage of being a lot more nimble, and she’s still no slouch. Tiv2 seems so long that he probably has to swing that mf really wide around corners, like a semi truck or a bus. So if you think about it, one is nimble and still capable, and the other is not, and instead it uses its heavyweight to its advantage and plants itself a lot better. Two different kinds of beasts, but both beasts nonetheless.
This shows really, the Season 4 finale of Storm Chasers, the Wadena EF4, just how strong that tornado truly was that it managed to slide the Dominator down the road in full deployment mode
they weren't fully deployed if u watch it again and i know the editing is bad in the show but if u look when joel says i smell burning rubber or whatever u can see a quick scene they show dom 1 not dropped to the ground and its in the tornado so idk what to believe
you could say the TIV won but really any other car would've been toppled and tossed 10 seconds into the blast. The 747 has massive engines with some really powerful thrust. Its understandable the dominator couldn't hold strong as long as the TIV did with its spikes and also overall heavier weight. Really interesting.
TIV 2 and the Dominator are both incredible vehicles with different engineering plans to boot. As we saw, even though the Dominators Anchor point failed it still did its job well to keep it from flipping or the wind from getting underneath it. Protecting the Crew inside. Present day now the Dominator 3 Has spikes like the TIV 2 so they're both equally as protective
also remember the tiv 2 got even stronger since there's now 4 spikes instead of 2 I am saying this because I am pretty sure the spikes were a bit bent after this test
Moore had peak winds of 300 MPH, now you'd think that it's only 50 MPH more than this test, however, the energy of things hitting it, including the energy of the air itself, rises exponentially with velocity squared. So it's a heck of a lot more and why the EF scale from an EF2 to EF5 is only about a 130 MPH difference, but the diff of roof damage vs bending steel.
People forget that this is 250mph in STRAIGHT line winds. In a tornado winds don’t go straight they go where ever they want. So realistically if you had both of these in a 250mph tornado things would not go well. I’m not an engineer but I know that these vehicles could probably not handle those winds in a tornado especially dominator 1.
I think undeployed in terms of the spikes undeployed but everything else is deployed I think it has around a wind speed of around 230 or so It's normal wind speed fully deployed is 250 Mid ef5
Neither one of those vehicles could withstand an EF-5. T.I.V. is a much heavier vehicle than the Dominator, but in a storm that strong all it would take is some heavy object hitting it and rocking it enough that the wind can get a grip under the edge.
GeetarAdam True. I think TIV-2 would have a real good chance at withstanding an F5/EF5, but dominator would not due to the fact that there is debris and the wind is erratic and come from many directions.
well the TIV 2 was built with steel armor and the dominator was built with just rhino lining for protection. i did see a video on here where the TIV 2 intercepted an EF3 packing winds of 175 mph and it shook off the punishing winds and debris like it was nothing.
@@derekwall200 d1 got wind speeds of 175mph with updraft of 200 in 2011 and d3 has recorded 180s, and the tiv intercept did not intercepted safely, the tiv doors blew oped and large debris got in, also in the video it showed something hit their windshield which made a spark and scratch/crack in the windshield. Simple terms tiv 2, d1-3 can survive ef4, and could survive f5 windspeed, they don't do because of the danger of large debris like cars.
@@derekwall200, in a tornado density is your friend. A heavier vehicle is simply harder for the tornado to pick up and roll around. If it’s armored and has good seat belts, the occupants should survive a couple rolls. Something as dense as a tank wouldn’t even move. The three pro chasers who were killed in the El Reno monster were in a small car that got lofted and tumbled like a piece of aluminum foil, throwing one of them from the vehicle. They died of blunt force trauma. I heard recently that the last recording/transmission from them was right when they realized they couldn’t escape, and one of them cried “We’re going to die! We’re going to die!” Poor guys. I hope they got knocked out right away so they didn’t have to live with that fear for very long.
the TIV 2 may be able to handle the 250 mph winds in an EF5 but the #1 killer in tornadoes isn't the winds, it's being impaled by debris. and with all kinds of debris that would be flying through the air at 200+ mph like missiles could penetrate the bulletproof Lexan windows and kill any unfortunate soul sitting on the other side of them
It's going to take more than a 2x4 to punch through those windows. The windows are bullet proof. A rifle round travels at over 2500 feet per second, has a shape optimized for penetration, and is comprised of lead and copper. A 2x4, while certainly heavier, would be traveling slower, is blunt with no penetration advantage, and would probably shatter on impact because it is comprised of wood. It would take a steel pole traveling at over 300 mph to have a chance at busting through those windows. Remember, each of them is 2 inch thick polycarbonate. Tiv's greatest enemy in a twister isn't the debris, it's the wind. The problem with going into an F5 is that the winds would be exerting so much pressure on Tiv that it could cause the mantling points of the spikes to fail, which would cause Tiv to slide across the ground and potentially topple. This is why Dominator 1 and 2 can't go into anything higher than a mid F3, the winds would push them around too much, like what happens to Dominator 2 in this episode.
@@RojoFern See, im not even worried about the spike hard points failing. Id be most worried about the terrain they deploy on. The rear wheels are not covered by the skirts like the dominators are. I would have lived to see this test repeated with both vehicles in profile on the side of a ditch like they are somewhat frequently parked. If dominator were to dip down a ditch while sliding like that it would lift the skirt and allow the wind underneath to possibly lift and likely roll them. Tiv on the other hand doesnt have protection at those rear wheels which could allow wind under that skirt in profile. If wind can get under that skirt and lift at all, those spikes could pull or lever free of softer earth
I wonder if the tiv would be picked up or moved much by an ef-5 such as the may 2oth 2013 moore or the may 22 2011 Joplin tornados.. hope not I hope Sean stays safe....
@@titusthebigman999gaming6 It’s not just the weight. It’s the density. Semis can get rolled by powerful tornadoes. The armored intercept vehicles are dense from all that armor, smooth-ish on the outside, and low to the ground to prevent wind from getting underneath and flipping them. I don’t think either of them should ever try to intercept an EF-5 though. They might make it, but there is still a risk they could get flipped and hurt through the underside of the vehicle. It would be really difficult to get out, too, in case the vehicle caught fire.
TIV-2 is a really tough vehicle. Nothing can move that beast outside of the 600 horsepower Cummins diesel under the hood.
Chevyblock 550 it bent the spikes on tiv 2
Chevyblock 550 while I do like Cummins bc u can do almost anything with them, I perfer the duramax due to the Allison transmission
Chad A.
I own both a Chevy and a Ford.
My work truck is an 06 6.0 F-350 (studded heads and egr delete) and my daily is a 00 4.3 Blazer so I don’t discriminate.
Cummins makes awesome engines and Chevy makes awesome tranny’s and if they combined them then they would make for one awesome truck.
nothing beats the orignal
that dominator used is dominator 2 the dominator 3 would easily stay still
Its easy to see this and say "tiv2 won" and to forget just how amazing both of these vehicles did. if that was any other road legal vehicle besides a tank it would have been destroyed. And the Dominator 3 now has spikes like the Tiv2.
Plus that was dom 1
@@matthewtrinh8961 Im horrible with names
@@Aroforceyeah thats dominator 1.
Yes tiv 2 didn’t move but what do you expect tiv 2 was built buy a literal welding school in 2007 apart from the Cummings 6.7 and the 2007 ram 3500 frame everything on tiv 2 is custom it is a custom build tornado intercept vehicle. While srv dominator was just a average 2007 Chevy Tahoe that reed payed to build a external roll cage on the stock Tahoe body that connects to the frame then sheet metal is welded to the roll cage with Lexan windows and a coating over the metal. SRV dominator 2 was made to be stronger, more aerodynamic and tougher so reed and his team could intercept stronger tornadoes that srv dominator could not it had spikes etc . dominator 3 was made to like the previous vehicle was built to fix problems that the previous dominators had I am not saying dominator 2 was a bad vehicle but there was probably some problems that reed wanted to fix with it he had done on dom 3 🤷🏽♂️ edit yes dominator 2 or 3 would have done much better than SRV dominator 1 here especially at these wind speeds 👀
Dominator 2 does have shorter but wider anchoring spikes behind the rear tires, on top of that a more aerodynamic frame and the ability to drop down to the ground. It would likely fair better than the Dominator 1.
this is genius engineering and so much fun to build something like this...
Two legends beside eschother, the mighty 747, and the powerful storm chasers
The TIV2 is such a heavy beast and has anchor spikes.
Dominator is a bit cleaner and nicer to look at though.
Bottom line if I had to drive though a tornado...I’d take either lol.
ehh id choose the TIV2 every single time. "nicer to look at" can only get you so far and in this game, it would get you killed. not to mention the dominator dude is a A1 copycatter douche
@@DanRustle The Dominator has been closer to more tornadoes than TIV2 so I question the merit behind you typing "it would get you killed"- because regardless neither of these vehicles would survive a direct hit from an EF-4 or EF-5 tornado- not to mention there's Dominator 3 now which is far more durable and advanced than Dominator 1, as well as both 2 and 3 have spikes to keep it from being blown like 1 here.
And the only similarities between the TIV's & Dominator's is they're both armored vehicles aerodynamically designed to survive tornadic-winds and debris.
@@WeatherxCalipha TIV2 already went inside a tornado
Well the dominator 1 is not ment for that strong winds so its kind of a unfair match.
@@matthewtrinh8961
I’ll still take the tiv1 over my X3 in a tornado though!
I’d end up in the land of oz if not lol.
On a serious note though, I can see how it could have benefits over the tiv2, even though it’s bigger and heavier.
When you’re driving down a maze of narrow dirt roads, chasing large erratic tornados...
I’d say the smaller dominator has the advantage of being a lot more nimble, and she’s still no slouch.
Tiv2 seems so long that he probably has to swing that mf really wide around corners, like a semi truck or a bus.
So if you think about it, one is nimble and still capable, and the other is not, and instead it uses its heavyweight to its advantage and plants itself a lot better.
Two different kinds of beasts, but both beasts nonetheless.
This shows really, the Season 4 finale of Storm Chasers, the Wadena EF4, just how strong that tornado truly was that it managed to slide the Dominator down the road in full deployment mode
they weren't fully deployed if u watch it again and i know the editing is bad in the show but if u look when joel says i smell burning rubber or whatever u can see a quick scene they show dom 1 not dropped to the ground and its in the tornado so idk what to believe
you could say the TIV won but really any other car would've been toppled and tossed 10 seconds into the blast. The 747 has massive engines with some really powerful thrust. Its understandable the dominator couldn't hold strong as long as the TIV did with its spikes and also overall heavier weight. Really interesting.
I caught blud COMMENTING on a video??? 😂😂😭🙏💀
Everybody looking at the cars, meanwhile I’m just looking at that classic 747
I’m looking at both
I'm looking at the hold-down points the 747 is using to stop it moving.
I wish I had the opportunity to test my armoured storm chasing vehicle with a 747 engine.
If you really have a storm chasing vehicle make a video about it
TIV 2 and the Dominator are both incredible vehicles with different engineering plans to boot.
As we saw, even though the Dominators Anchor point failed it still did its job well to keep it from flipping or the wind from getting underneath it. Protecting the Crew inside.
Present day now the Dominator 3 Has spikes like the TIV 2 so they're both equally as protective
After this no one is going to want to chase a tornado that’s over +150 mph in the dominator💀
yeah but look how well it held up, it didnt roll, just slid, imagine dominator 3.
woohoo if only it had spikes
Domintor 3 has spikes i belive @@icey_sickle
dominator 3 could have a high risk of rolling since the frame is actually tall and thin compared to the older designs
@@theofficiaIsteveAnd how would the wind get under the car? And the dom 3 is pretty damn aerodynamic
After this test and a time when DOM 1 slid in an EF4 tornado, Reed fitted DOM 2 and 3 with spikes
also remember the tiv 2 got even stronger since there's now 4 spikes instead of 2
I am saying this because I am pretty sure the spikes were a bit bent after this test
Moore had peak winds of 300 MPH, now you'd think that it's only 50 MPH more than this test, however, the energy of things hitting it, including the energy of the air itself, rises exponentially with velocity squared. So it's a heck of a lot more and why the EF scale from an EF2 to EF5 is only about a 130 MPH difference, but the diff of roof damage vs bending steel.
Now try Dominator 3!
No dominator 4
They already did dominator 3 behind a jet
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People forget that this is 250mph in STRAIGHT line winds. In a tornado winds don’t go straight they go where ever they want. So realistically if you had both of these in a 250mph tornado things would not go well. I’m not an engineer but I know that these vehicles could probably not handle those winds in a tornado especially dominator 1.
What about facing perpendicular to the engines?
Now we need a dominator 3 and tiv 2
I think undeployed in terms of the spikes undeployed but everything else is deployed I think it has around a wind speed of around 230 or so
It's normal wind speed fully deployed is 250
Mid ef5
Neither one of those vehicles could withstand an EF-5. T.I.V. is a much heavier vehicle than the Dominator, but in a storm that strong all it would take is some heavy object hitting it and rocking it enough that the wind can get a grip under the edge.
GeetarAdam True. I think TIV-2 would have a real good chance at withstanding an F5/EF5, but dominator would not due to the fact that there is debris and the wind is erratic and come from many directions.
well the TIV 2 was built with steel armor and the dominator was built with just rhino lining for protection. i did see a video on here where the TIV 2 intercepted an EF3 packing winds of 175 mph and it shook off the punishing winds and debris like it was nothing.
@@derekwall200 d1 got wind speeds of 175mph with updraft of 200 in 2011 and d3 has recorded 180s, and the tiv intercept did not intercepted safely, the tiv doors blew oped and large debris got in, also in the video it showed something hit their windshield which made a spark and scratch/crack in the windshield. Simple terms tiv 2, d1-3 can survive ef4, and could survive f5 windspeed, they don't do because of the danger of large debris like cars.
@@alfonsohdezB yeah that's a good reason. If I were to build a Tornado intercept vehicle, I'd construct the entire hull out of titanium
@@derekwall200, in a tornado density is your friend. A heavier vehicle is simply harder for the tornado to pick up and roll around. If it’s armored and has good seat belts, the occupants should survive a couple rolls. Something as dense as a tank wouldn’t even move. The three pro chasers who were killed in the El Reno monster were in a small car that got lofted and tumbled like a piece of aluminum foil, throwing one of them from the vehicle. They died of blunt force trauma. I heard recently that the last recording/transmission from them was right when they realized they couldn’t escape, and one of them cried “We’re going to die! We’re going to die!” Poor guys. I hope they got knocked out right away so they didn’t have to live with that fear for very long.
the TIV 2 may be able to handle the 250 mph winds in an EF5 but the #1 killer in tornadoes isn't the winds, it's being impaled by debris. and with all kinds of debris that would be flying through the air at 200+ mph like missiles could penetrate the bulletproof Lexan windows and kill any unfortunate soul sitting on the other side of them
It's going to take more than a 2x4 to punch through those windows. The windows are bullet proof. A rifle round travels at over 2500 feet per second, has a shape optimized for penetration, and is comprised of lead and copper. A 2x4, while certainly heavier, would be traveling slower, is blunt with no penetration advantage, and would probably shatter on impact because it is comprised of wood. It would take a steel pole traveling at over 300 mph to have a chance at busting through those windows. Remember, each of them is 2 inch thick polycarbonate.
Tiv's greatest enemy in a twister isn't the debris, it's the wind. The problem with going into an F5 is that the winds would be exerting so much pressure on Tiv that it could cause the mantling points of the spikes to fail, which would cause Tiv to slide across the ground and potentially topple. This is why Dominator 1 and 2 can't go into anything higher than a mid F3, the winds would push them around too much, like what happens to Dominator 2 in this episode.
RojoFern that was dominator 1
@@jacobkeys8664 yeah and dominator 1 doesn't have as thick of armor as TIV 2 and it also doesn't have the retractable spikes to hold it in place
Derek Wall that’s true
@@RojoFern See, im not even worried about the spike hard points failing. Id be most worried about the terrain they deploy on. The rear wheels are not covered by the skirts like the dominators are. I would have lived to see this test repeated with both vehicles in profile on the side of a ditch like they are somewhat frequently parked. If dominator were to dip down a ditch while sliding like that it would lift the skirt and allow the wind underneath to possibly lift and likely roll them. Tiv on the other hand doesnt have protection at those rear wheels which could allow wind under that skirt in profile. If wind can get under that skirt and lift at all, those spikes could pull or lever free of softer earth
The tiv2 hasn't even deploy the back flaps
2 out of the 6 things I love tornado interceptor and planes
The only time Sean was nice to Reed after Reed built the dominator😂
I just wanna know what airport this was tested at with the 747. My guess is OSC, but I can’t quite tell.
I wonder if the tiv would be picked up or moved much by an ef-5 such as the may 2oth 2013 moore or the may 22 2011 Joplin tornados.. hope not I hope Sean stays safe....
welp
He didn’t intercept those since there was winds over 260 mph and there was too much debrie for the vehicle to handle
Probably would be
Congrats Your First lmao
Next challenge:A fighter jet💀
those things would be perfect for tornado chasers
tornado chasers have been using them since the 2000s
fr ngl I could see them deploying in tornados and even being used in movies
@@ReaI_s lol
Now put into the storm intercept or idk but his spikes i wanna see
thats why the dom3 has spikes lol
If tiv was sitting inside winds high enough it would end up snapping the spiked
That’s the dominator 1💀
Which episode is this?
reed after this was like “yeah we need a better vehicle” and created dom 3 years later
That’s the dom1. Remake this using the dom 3 now
Dominator 2 and 3 has spikes
Now we have dominator 3 better then tiv 2.
ID say they both "won" because in any other normal car you would have been tossed around like a toy
Remake this with the dom2 and 3😭😭
Moment of true
Tiv 2 vs dom 3??
isnt that a 747-200F by kallita thats a class 742 isnt it OMFG im an avgeek thats awesome
Wow.. So satisfying
Therapist: AA 747 doesn't exist, it can't hurt you
AA 747: 0:20
It did exist also this is Kalitta Air not AA
they should do dominator 3
What happens when you give a Chevy an armor upgrade? You get TIV!
If you give a Chevy an armor upgrade you get dominator not tiv
If you give a Dodge an armor upgrade you get tiv
what ep of mithbusters was that?
rip on the replies for 747
DO IT WITH DOMINATOR 3!!!
Do Dom 3
already done.
Reed Timmers storm chasing car
Winners: TIV 2 Dominator 1
TIV > Dominator
woe.
Who’s here in 2024?
my last name is kalitta
How many downforce?!?!
2 downforce🔥🔥🔥
dominator 3 is on a whole another level fasho dominator 3 would destroy TIV 2 by any EF5 tornado fasho
What about making a slick aerodynamical car ? 😂😂😂
Aerodynamics help with the wind but they need armor to resist the debris. Aerodynamic armor would be astronomically expensive to make.
@@evilsharkey8954 I don't really think aerodynamic matters the weight matters more.
@@titusthebigman999gaming6 It’s not just the weight. It’s the density. Semis can get rolled by powerful tornadoes. The armored intercept vehicles are dense from all that armor, smooth-ish on the outside, and low to the ground to prevent wind from getting underneath and flipping them. I don’t think either of them should ever try to intercept an EF-5 though. They might make it, but there is still a risk they could get flipped and hurt through the underside of the vehicle. It would be really difficult to get out, too, in case the vehicle caught fire.
@@evilsharkey8954 That's true. But the TIV2 is not aerodynamic and it has flaps but Dominator 1-2-3 only has a lower chassis
In a few years Let’s make this video and 1 million views