Guide to Iceborne Lance for New and Old Hunters [Monster Hunter World Iceborne]
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- čas přidán 31. 12. 2023
- The lance plays very differently from other Monster Hunter games. This is a concise guide to how to use the lance effectively in Iceborne.
Most of the information from my Sunbreak videos are still valid, so check them out too.
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This is probably the most useful lance guide I have ever seen. It doesn't just teach you the moves and how to use them, it teaches you the truth about lance theory and shows how to apply it in situ, even obscure master tech. I learned things about iceborne lance that even I didn't know as a lance main. Very well done.
Glad to know you learned something. Thanks for watching!
This is a very useful guide. Just started a new game and new character. Purely a lance main and im having a blast! Such a great experience!
Dancing with the monster is why I loved the glave so much. you've inspired me to touch the ground and pick up a lance.
Ah, the whole. “boxer” mentality was just the kind of advice I needed. Was playing a bit too defensively like not using the clutch counter to follow monsters who attacks reposition themselves out of your range. This is great, thanks.
There's a huge difference between using a weapon just to power through the game and mastering a weapon and trying to be optimal. I think Lance and Bow for example are prime examples of how playing the weapon optimally or at least, as intended, in the best way possible is a completly different game altogether. I'd say that playing Lance at this level is way harder than most weapons and also super specific to the Lance itself, especially the movement. Cool guide!
I wouldn’t call it “difficult” or “optimal”because I don’t want to turn ppl away…
But the FEELING is very different! And anyone can do it! Just have to change your mindset
Thanks for your comment! I can tell that you get it.
@@jyugwat2952 exactly.. the more you use it, the more u understand about it.. especially play in solo.. learning about your own weapon is much more faster than doin quest with party..
What do you mean with Bow?
The powering through the game.. *cough* *cough* longsword *cough* *cough* *cough*
hands down the best lance video ive ever seen. the ending got me hyped as hell to play lance.
Thanks for watching! Enjoy the lance!
The way you describe lance just like a boxer is very helpful for my understanding of the weapon. It's not that i haven't put a lot of effort playing it, but more as i'm not connected to concep of lance yet. Thanks a lot!
Glad to hear it! Your lance skills will improve! Thanks for watching!
I think Zinogre is the best monster in MHW to practice lance. He does a series of overhead slams which are quite easy to spot and will let you really practice using the counters. You can see a clip here at 3:30. If you successfully counter he will repeat that slam attack 2-3 times and you will feel like a god if you counter them all.
Diablos. That thing is how I cut my teeth with Lance.
@Warpded Diablo was also my cb training partner
Great video! The boxer analogy was spot on! Dancing with the monster and trading blows and being totally relentless is why I love lance so much!
What an amazing, in-depth guide. Thank you so much for this!
Thansk for the guide. I've been playing MH for a while, having fun with GS, LS and Hammer. After seeing a few videos of the Lance on CZcams and watching your vid, I decided to give it a try and oh lord, this weapon is fantastic. I will fit it on my 'main' weapons for MHW and Wilds for sure.
This is the best lance guide I ever seen. Tysm its help me a lot.
Dayum man, the way u talked about the lance as a true art at the end of the video just hit my heart at the right spot. I just wanna master this art too now !
I spend a lot of time writing the script and editing! Thanks for watching to the end!
as someone who only got into the lance via sunbreak, i appreciate the tutorial on the differing play style in iceborne :)
thanks for making my return to world more fun
thank you for the u guide!! on my return world i’m deciding to pick out weapons i didn’t play as much, so far the hammer has been fun to learn and it looks like i’ll pick up lance after watching this video!! cheers
You made my play Lance in Rise / SunBreak with your videos.
And with this video I will start to play Lance in IceBorne 😊
Thanks for your content and happy new year to you Lance Senpai 😊
Love to hear it!
I've been playing lance since the beginning and this is a masterclass guide. Well done!
I wonder what Lance will be like in Wilds…Thanks for watching! Thanks for your comment!
I absolutely love how you transitioned the music to its "battle" variations whenever you were fighting a monster
It was a lot of work! Thanks for watching!
Yo helpful guide! I started to play lance just from this video, its been fun.
Best Lance guide out there and I have seen A LOT
Thanks so much! Though my guide wouldn’t be here without all the other smart and skilled lancers on CZcams.
Thanks for watching!
I've been doing the rounds of the weapons as I have come back to Iceborne in celebration of Wilds being announced and man... I really missed out. As a greatsword main I felt right at home with the lance, being used to tackling then swinging with the greatsword made the guard and poke playstyle of the lance feel so natural. Hitting 6 perfect counter guards in a row is like crack, it is so unfathomably addicting.
I feel I'm fairly competent with it but now I'm determined to stick with it and master it.
When I hit my first perfect counter-claw, I fell in love almost instantly.
This was so fun and satisfying to watch, thank you
Thanks for watching! :)
Awesome guide! Thanks for the effort in making it 😄
This one took a lot of time! Thanks for watching!
This was very informative and a good watch! I picked up Lance two weeks ago, never played it before and I must say its awesome!
It really clicked with me when fighting a Gold Rathian, just counter poke after poke, counter clutching her tail spins and eventually stabbing that meat cleaver off.. was pure dopamine.
Its also surprisingly versatile in multiplayer, I often trigger flinch and clagger windows with pokes, counter clutch into wallslam or with Rajang, I often counter onto his arms, triggering his grab animation, but clawing onto his rear legs to avoid it, giving a free damage window to everyone else.
Also dunking on cutting weapons when you're the one doing their job of cutting a monster's tail.
This is the most inspiring mhw weapon guide i've ever seen. Time to become a lance main.
Been learning CB recently and the Guard Point is so satisyfing to pull of and use counter. Might as well try the lance because of this vid!
Enjoy the lance! Thanks for watching!
lance is like boxing... that explains why I enjoy it so much after grinding out steve in tekken. I think thats a great way to put it the gameplay, great video!
I was scared this video was too long since it is text only… All these comments about my boxing comparison… means ppl are watching to the end. Thank you!
Semi new hunter at master rank. Primarily SnS main but I tried lance and loved being able to just break parts over and over again.
Now here I am wanting to get my mastery up on the lance. Excellent guide!
I have learned so much about Lance and thought I mastered it all. Still learning new things about lance, got as far as Zinogre on Iceborne. Sunbreak gave me some pointers but Iceborne related ones are nice.
I started with Rise and quickly grew fond of the lance before going back to world. Most of this stuff I already knew, but I found some cool tricks I want to try the next time I hunt in the new world
Excellent video, worthy of the wonderful weapon it is about.
This really is the ultimate guide. I do appreciate the in depth explanation for each core mechanic and how to optimize them during play.
One question I have with guard counter and power guard counter. When you assume those stances, do you have to do the additional input of circle to retaliate or is it automatically done when an attack connects? I’m just at work right now so I can’t test for myself.
Great overview!
Man, I love Lance! I was so tired of dying so I gave Lance a try. I'm still getting better, but not carting much anymore. As Dear Gamer says, "in Offensive Guard we trust!" And clutch claw counter, monster can't knock us off, means I can weaken a part anytime I want to! Bonus tip, for any fights too difficult, you can use your Lance build of high guard, offensive guard, etc on a HBG if you need to get through a certain monster, then right back to Lance again!
Amazing guide, my fellow Lancer!
I'd love to see more new hunters or returning ones picking up Lance too, they're so much fun when you finally understand how to play it.
Nothing feels better than going in the zone with a monster and constantly trading blows for MINUTES without backing down! 😁
(You do still need to back down from those icy floor breath from Frost fang and Velkhana though, they're aiming at your feet not your shield lol)
Oh and one more tips I wanna share:
Slinger Guard & Guard Dash will ignore medium knockback and treat it as small knockback.
Some of the monster's attacks can pit you into an awkward position where you get knock back that's heavy enough to push you back slightly but still not powerful enough to let you transition into a Power Guard.
So these 2 moves are perfect for those situations as you can chose to either hold your ground or reposition yourself.
For example: Fatalis' downward Flamethrower (not cone) will give you a medium knockback. But if you hold your shield up in a Slinger Guard position with Guard 5 & Guard Up then you can just sit right under him safely for the entire duration and continue thrusting once he finished this move lol
I was planning a lance tip video but you are stealing my tips!!! Shhhh!!!! (Keep posting more tips)
I finally applied this guard trick at 8:56. I knew this move was possible but my habit is clutch claw counter out of regular guard with counter, but I could not do the trick for this video. I realized I had to guard with slinger guard and the secondary input for clutch claw counter to have low knock back for the trick to work. Fatalis really makes you learn the lance thoroughly.
I can tell you understand the lance. Cheers my friend.
Ive watched alot....this is by far the best lance vid on youtube
I condense a lot of the info from other smart and skilled lancers on CZcams, and include my own *tips* ;) Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the guide, was looking to get into world now that I got a decent enough computer to run, so this is really appreciated.
Hope you find a weapon you love! Enjoy!
@@jyugwat2952 Probably sticking with Lance. It was my main in GenU and RiseBreak, so I figure I'll continue that into World
This is a truly excellent video and the music is a fantastic choice as well. I did a lot of lancing throughout my Monster Hunter "career" but had long moved away from World, I'm late getting back to it but I'm going to soon. So, I'm overjoyed to see this kind of video and remind me of what I liked about it, and how to manage without relying on Rise's toys. No disrespect to Rise, but World's lancing always felt special and meaty to me. Well done.
The critical hit in World is just so crispy. In addition to the offensive guard flash it makes the poke playstyle so satisfying! It’s just not the same…
@@jyugwat2952 Yeah, I did a lot of offensive guard when messing around on my Playstation account. When I do Iceborne from scratch it'll be with an old character on Steam. Should be fun, I've missed it.
That was such a good vid!
I really want to play lance now!
Thanks a lot!
DO IT!! DO IT NOW!!
This video inspired me to replay Iceborne solo while waiting for Wilds, I never get a chance to solo since my bro always drag me to play duo with him 4 years ago.
Now I defeated Raging boi, sth I never thought I could do.
Still need to work on positioning but my appreciation for this weapon is at its peaks 🌷
Yes positioning is everything! Thanks for watching!
That was awesome. You've inspired me. I'm gonna become a lancer!
The ending is so cute! :D Best wishes in hunting!
No you’re cute
Great video! I've just got back into MHWIB and was on the fence of trying the Lance and Gunlance I plan to do both but gunlance was going to be my 1st choice, but after watching this I seem to be leaning more towards the former now!
Join us. The one true lance.
I am a lance main in iceborne and I'm still learning something new. that clutch claw guard dash back hop to reposition is so big. actually all the clutch claw cancels are big.
everything about the lance I've picked up through intuition because honestly yeah its a simple weapon so you can get extra creative with how to play it. cant wait to hop back in
This is actually a really nice guide! I main another weapon but lance seems pretty fun ngl
I hope I showed the right picture to allow for a good transition from your weapon.
I believe the common tank stereotype for Lance is a terrible representation of how it was designed to play.
Enjoy the Lance and good luck! Thanks for watching!
Came for the thumbnail, stayed for the sermon. Bless.
I've used LS for most of my MHW journey (which was pretty much my first MH game) and love the feeling of "doing the dance" with a monster by using counters. On a whim I decided to look up a guide for lance since it looked neat and has similar(ish) counter mechanics, after watching this and actually understanding how the lance plays I'm very tempted to play lance now. I'm just a bit intimidated by swapping weapons since I've already put so much time into learning the correct skills to use for LS, not to mention having to relearn the monsters somewhat since I'd be using a whole new moveset.
Thanks for the video, now I'm motivated to play Lance
Join us.
Great video thx so much 💜
Best lance guide ı have ever seen
God I love Lance. The footage is great too. Best weapon in the entire game if you ask me
I just picked up Lance right before going up against Velkhana (for the first time) and the Lance is quickly becoming my favorite weapon in Iceborne, even after having tried pretty much everything else. SNS, GL and CB are still favs I play sometimes, but the Lance counters in MHW are so satisfying and I really enjoy the mobility of the Lance.
You make lance look so cool and fun to m. Lance in MHW is among the least played weapons and is not flashy like other weapons, but that's what makes me want to start my first ever MH journey with it, all substance and not just flashy style.
Lance is the least played because most ppl do not know how to use it.
Good luck on your first adventure! Thanks for watching!
@@jyugwat2952 So far progressed as far getting the quest to defeat Legiana. Have never failed a mission once with Lance because of your tutorial (and other lance guides).
I just keep blocking and countering/poking constantly lol.
Amazing video! Thank you very much. I’ve been trying to play Lance in Iceborne recently and my hunts have all been taking significantly longer than other weapons. The weapon fundamentally felt fine, but I felt like I was getting hit more than hitting the monster. There were several moves in this video that I never knew about, despite having played Iceborne for a very long time, and I look forward to using these techniques in my game, because I really love the design on theLance and I wish I was better with it. Here’s hoping I can get some guard decorations to drop!
10:38 if you can get a hang of positioning then your hunt time will decrease a lot! Lance players get an uncomfortable itch when we are out of position for even 1 second, this is how important it is.
I love shields! And the spear is the king of weapons! Nergigante lances are my favourite!
I’m glad you learned something! Hope you get that shield jewel. And thanks for watching!
@@jyugwat2952 Do you have any tips for how to better position? Against for example Barroth, it seems really easy to stay where I need to be, but when I’m fighting Brachydios I struggle to keep up. Not only is he moving around very quickly, I find myself getting stuck in his slime puddles, and I’m constantly trying to cleanse myself of his slime. I still end up finishing the hunt, but it feels like an uphill battle. Is there anything in particular I should be doing against faster monsters or monsters that put gunk on the ground? Anything would help! I really want to get better.
@@ethanboone2816 what I do to learn positioning against tough matchups is watch speed runners. For your case watch raging brachy, regular brachy speed runs aren’t good for learning positioning. Power guard, and guard dash are your tools for positioning, sometimes they even face backwards for a moment, and realign their shield when the monster is preparing to attack again. Make a conscious thought on what guard they use to deal with what, when they chase, and when they let the monster approach.
Second, sounds like you know blast is taking you out from being in position. Respect the blast and remove offence skills for blast resist. Staying in position far out-damages some attack boost or crit eye, or crit boost etc.
Finally there are a lot of bad matchups in iceborne. I hate to say it but some monsters are really miserable to fight with lance and I wouldn’t even recommend it. For a long time I had to switch weapons to clear some fights, or refuse to fight with lance. I only now am returning to world and clearing some terrible matchups that I’ve never done with lance before, like furious rajang and AT velkhana.
Good luck!
@@jyugwat2952 Thank you very much for the advice! I unfortunately don’t really have a lot of decorations, so I may just have to wait on some fights for later. I really appreciate it!
@@ethanboone2816 sorry I couldn’t give you a better answer… but your positioning will improve with experience! Someone like you is sure to improve because you like the weapon.
Great questions! Thanks for asking!
Man i love using lance cz i feel good when facing in front of big monster
I love to be tank at anygame this is why i love lance at MHW
Need time to master it and ur video help me a lot
Nice video
Been trying to get into World from the context of Souls games, and the idea of the Lance being the weapon that 'boxes' by switching between offense and defense really lines up with the play style I'm familiar with :D Going to give it a shot :D
Yes! Lance is great for solo play because the monster attention is always on you. I also love the sword and shield!
If you’re coming from souls you might like the hammer or greatsword too!
Thanks for watching!
Great video. I just started to play MHW. I'm a novice lancer. It's a really amazing weapon
One of us. One of us.
Long time lance player here. 6:36 is a really useful tip for me. Thanks
Yeah I saw a speed runner do that and had to dig up everywhere to find out how to do that… I recall it being easier to perform in sunbreak
good point made: if you think you're the tank, then you're just a punching bag for them.
The mindset is what has been getting me for a while. I would attempt to tank attacks for the sake of being a tank and then I started to miss out on damage and get frustrated.
Thank you for the video. I am now re-motivated to dance with the lance.
I remember beating rathalos with lance on MH 1, and never use it again cause awesome LS combo on next gen lol.
Thanks for the guide this inspire me to pickup lance again on Iceborne.
My first game was World and I loved the lance and never once picked up the dual blades. Maybe next gen I’ll be a dual blades main who knows HAHA
I do truly forget when I picked up the Lance. Through most of vanilla I was a thorough Hammer enjoyer knocking things over and betting my life with daring wind-ups and invincibility rolls. It was with Iceborne the monsters really began to become an annoyance. But once I just for the sake of giving the 'stick' a try, and seeing how you literally could just sit there in that impossible zone and *keep standing there after just raising your shield attack after attack* won me over fast.
This video and its simple straight forward approach and music just appeals to that sense of ''Huh, wow.'' factor that first perfect block and instant retaliation towards the monsters felt like.
I am a new player and Lance is my absolute favorite. I love how easy it is to mount with a Lance with the Dash Attack. When initiating a fight, I usually dash, mount it and knock it down for some series of pokes at the tail to break it easily later on. However I am very bad at using Counter Claw currently its so hard to control and it takes a while to get used to since the Claw speed depends on how fast you navigate through the buttons so I'm either super late or super early that my stamina runs out. I also never knew you can change direction while lunging forward so thank you so much for this information.
Lance for me is very fun because you're mastering the only attack it has which is poke but using the shield to offensively block attacks to keep poking on enemies' face instead of waiting for attacks and being a punching bag like you said. Lance also increases your battle experience since it makes you learn the boss patterns as to which moves are safe to block and which moves need to be dodged. I really like how you make us think about boxing when trading blows with the boss head on. It really suits the Lance playstyle.
Great video it motivates me to master this weapon because I tried everything else and nothing ever came close to Lance 😂
Sounds like you got the idea. Thanks for watching! Good luck on your adventure!
Back when MHW was still new and I was looking for a weapon to use I tried Switch Axe and actually managed to finish the game but I felt that I didnt like the play style of it so I started from fresh and tried a weapon I have not used before. The Lance, at first I felt that it was clunky and deals small damage, but I was hunting and not dying and was enjoying the consistent damage output and the counter play. I kept at it now Im a proud Lance Main, I fell inlove with the gameplay of lance and Its my trust reliable weapon. Lance is so much fun and I love it.
I was initially drawn to Lance before even owning the game because it was advertised as a tank LOL my first play through it was definitely my favourite, but as a new hunter there were times I had to rely on SNS to clear because of its versatility.
After finishing sunbreak I feel like I am returning to World as an experienced hunter to clear with my favourite weapon with my new skills. Cheers!
Great video! Recently pick up the lance and this was an extremelly practical video, would mind telling me whats your layered armor? Your hunter looks amazing
Dragon king eye patch (high rank nergigante)
Fellshroud Vaal hazak top (deep blue green colour)
Gold rathian gloves (i now prefer azure starlord arms here from the event quest)
Azure era waist (event quest)
Oolong pants (lunar new year event)
Guild palace lance
11:58 charge blade outfit I switched the shirt for gold rathian
11:15 great sword outfit I switched the shirt for guild palace
My secret is the hair is a mod called Elise hair ;)
Thanks for noticing!
Wow ty for the fast and detailed replay!
First of all, I would like to thank you for encouraging me to continue with the lance.
Monster Hunter World is my first and only Monster Hunter I have played. I bought it along with Iceborne during the PlayStation Store summer sale last month.
I have about 86 hours of gameplay and I have completed the base game. I also started Iceborne and the next quest requires me to hunt the Barioth.
This is all new to me, but I have to say I was having a blast until I noticed a considerable increase in difficulty.
I have only ever used the lance since the beginning of the game, but now I am starting to feel frustrated when every time I try to complete a side quest, where I have to hunt even the weakest monsters of the base game, it still takes me about 30/35 minutes.
I currently have a Hunter Rank 32 (Master Rank 6) and I use the Chromo Drill I. Could the fact that I have never mastered the counters be the cause of my ineffectiveness in battle?
Taking more than half an hour to kill even a Pukei Pukei has become tiring for me. Especially because I have a good defense and I don't lose lives.
It just becomes a battle of patience where I chase the monster, defend myself and land a few attacks. However, I do too little damage despite all the attack buffs.
Maybe the difference is all in the counters and positioning. I've never felt this boxer feeling. I've always been used to playing as a tank, but I'm a newbie.
I don't have friends to play with online, and I do everything by myself offline. I hope the MH community can give me some advice because at the moment I feel a bit lost.
I was like you too! I didn’t have PSN so I only played solo, I took 20+ min for any monster, and I always timed out for certain monsters.
As a veteran lancer my advice is… take a break! Watch some videos, have some lunch with your mom… then when you pick up the game again… even try a new weapon. As a beginner I did not ram my lance against every monster. I’d say my first play through was lance+sword and shield. Watch some videos, check your build etc. This might open your eyes to other mechanics in the game you might have been ignoring by using guard all the time.
You are saying your hunts are taking a long time no matter how much attack you are building, you are building wrong! What kills the most time as a lance is missing a counter, then sheathing to heal, healing slowly with a mega potion, then unsheathing again. For a player like this, you do not need attack boost. You need health boost 3, guard 5, anything to keep you in the monsters face stabbing away.
Finally…you said you’re always used to playing tank. Lance is not a tank! Your mentality should be the same as any other weapon: hit the monster any moment you can. With a greatsword this moment will be short, with a lance this moment will be very long.
If you want to get better at lance try this: hunt great jagras without holding block. You are only allowed to use guard counter, power guard, and guard dash to protect yourself. You are not allowed to block “dry”. Then hunt pukei, then barroth etc.
However my biggest tip is still to take a break! This could mean step away from the controller, or focus on another weapon. Maybe you will return to lance later and feel completely different. Thanks for watching!
@@jyugwat2952 Thanks so much for the advice. I just defeated the Barioth after 45 minutes of hunting. I'm exhausted. At least I have the Chromo Drill II now but I think I'll practice counters with something easier.
I don't like the spear and the shield. But your knowledge of weapons and monsters is really admirable. It's very nice to watch.
Thanks!
i notice that after a poke, I am holding R2 to guard the incoming attack, if i press circle (or B) too quickly, I'll continue poking instead of power guarding. I was wondering if this is normal behaviour? perhaps i'm timing it wrong? though I've watched my own vods, it seems very delayed whereas I've seen other peoples vods like the 10 levels of lance for example and he is able to poke and power guard seamlessly and the animation is very fast.
any ideas on that?
edit: love the guide btw, thank you!
1:02 tap the button and your counter is quick.
4:27 hold the button and you will hold your shield out.
It looks seamless in montages because they know the button timing very well.
Thanks for watching!
I feel like people are unfair to the terms "support" and "tank." Final Fantasy 14 taught me that every class is dps, and Monster Hunter is no different, because the support and tank weapons are often more powerful than the dps weapons like longsword and dual blades, with the added bonus of hunting horn buffing your team and lance being able to protect teammates directly behind it from certain attacks
what should i use as a starter lance player weapon armor exc.
I just started playing Lance and I love it! I returned to MHW after 5 whole years I already had Fatalis Armor Set and learned the basic of the most weapons only the excepton of the Lance. I tried every weapon in MHW except Lance and I was a Longsword main 5 years ago, I was also playing Dual Blades for Fatalis and Alatreon. But after 5 years and with my return, I wanted to try Lance I am 23 years old now and 5 years before I never bothered with Lance since I didn’t like its moveset and playstyle.
But man, I mean, Lance has everything right? Insane mobility, insane defense, high offence if you master the aggressive playstyle of the Lance and it’s extremely fun to play since you literally never stop attacking/blocking and unsheathing your weapon.
I also loved GunLance 5 years ago but I found it very slow and sluggish but very has a very powerful arsenal.
I always wanted a weapon that can do EVERYTHING. Both offence and defense. Mobility and aggression. It’s THE LANCE!
You convinced me as soon as i get home im booting UP THE GAME AND PICKING THE LANCE AS MY NEW WEAPPN
YEAAHH WAHOO
Tu es sérieux
Clutch claw countering a rolling uraggan and charging tigrex is so much fun
I have managed too solo lance all the way to mr5. Thanks for the helpful lessons. Just wish heath augment wasnt so far away
There shouldn’t be anything that chips too much until late game. For now guard 5 should be okay even without health augment. Maybe your cat can be your fake health augment hahaha
Good luck on your adventure!
Isn't guard 3 is good enough for lance? I see that at lv4 and 5 the skill only reduce guard stamina depletion. Or is there a hidden mechanic?
I’m actually not certain on the difference between guard 4 and 5, I have never tested it my myself. Generally Lance mains believe there is a big difference between guard zero, 1, 3, and 5.
There are 3 levels of knock back when you try to counter.
1. Fast counter thrust
2. Slow counter thrust
3. Block, but fail to counter thrust.
The difference between counter thrusting and failing the counter thrust is huge for the lance, because it is a weapon that relies on the number of times you can poke rather than big damage numbers. You just need take a guard level that lets you effectively counter thrust everything the monster you are fighting throws at you. In iceborne master rank, Generally guard 3 is not enough. You will fail this counter 2:52 vs yian garuga, and fail to counter fatalis breath move at 10:59.
love video
How do u get those white and red icons on monster drops and slinger ammo?
It is a mod
If you sort mods by most popular of all time it should be one of them
Nice clip
Can you clarify exactly how the running charge is used to mount monsters? I've been playing lance for over 100 hours now and have never figured it out
7:15 In the info tab of your pause menu you will find something called hunters notes where they list all the lance attacks including “dash attack” in weapon info.
While you are running in dash attack, hold forward and press the dodge button and you will jump without stopping your charge. You can even press the thrust button and aim a mid air thrust for more damage (9:09)
If you build up enough damage while mid-air (called mounting damage) you will begin a mount. Mounting damage for different weapons varies, with the lance you usually have to do this attack once or twice to get the mount the first time.
Is that clear?
thank you. I cannot for the life of me understand guides ever. (It's me, not you) Since I really only learn from doing but I feel like I gained a lot of information from this video. Maybe lance has been my true calling. I will use it for some time. My only critique would maybe be helping in the build department. I'm not good at building so I would like some more mid-level guidance in building
I’m glad you gained something from my video. I always try to be concise because I do not record my voice, and I thought the other CZcams lancers had some great build guides already. I can’t give you a full build progression, it’s been a couple years since I’ve started from zero haha.
In short, lance requires guard skills and sharpness skills to function. Upgrade your ironside charm whenever you can, and it should cover all the guard you need. I like the odogaron set mid game for sharpness, and teostra armour for later.
If you cover those 2 things you can’t really go wrong. And build health up 3. Good luck!
I'm a CB main, i was trying to solo the zinogre arena quest to upgrade the guild palace cb and decided to give lance a try, i landed 3 consecutive counter guards and now i think i'm obssesed
Is there an armor set you recommend going for before heading to fatalis or iceborn? All guides I see just show fatalis armor and never say anything about other armors.
It's been a while but I'll give it a shot.
When I mention "set" you'll have to google the armour set and set bonus effect yourself, and have a look at what it does. The following should be valid for all the weapons that use sharpness except for gunlance. ALWAYS take as much health boost as you can (max 3).
Before iceborne:
The general path for armour is anything with high defense until you can build odogaron set. Odogaron set should be good until you can get Teostra set. You only need to wear 3 armour pieces of Teostra to get Master's Touch: the best set bonus before fatalis.
The path for weapons I recommend kulu yaku tree, or the furthest right weapon that has your elemental advantage. This should be good until you can get weapons from the nergigante tree.
I think the paths are the same for master rank in Iceborne. At that point you should be able to decide on your own.
This is the general path if you do not want to think too much, but you should take your time to discover which armour and skills you like yourself. Do not just listen to me or some guy on the internet. Good luck!
Can't you take damage during the clutch claw counter grapple? I haven't messed with Lance since iceborne release and I recall that being the reason I dropped the weapon; I do the counter then immediately die while latched onto the monster since it did XYZ. Haven't played Lance in years tho so feel free to correct me
Yes that’s correct. You will take damage from whatever the monster is doing but you will not be thrown off. Ppl call it hyper armour
This is a problem when fighting rajang, alatreon, and fatalis in most situations
I came from sunbreak and it took me 3 or 4 cart to realized I cannot guard Deviljho's pin lol. It still makes no sense when lance can't guard those moves even with guard up, but I guess it is what it is. For lance I hope clutch claw counter and insta block will both make it to Wild. Those moves are so much satisfied to use.
7:00 was this an i frame from guard dash nullifying the AOE damage, or were you simply out of range from the damage?
You’re sharp! This instance was an from the hop.
I still recommend guard dash backwards for this attack, because the further away from rajang’s body you are the less chip damage will hit your shield. I’ve seen speed runners respond quick enough to get out of range. Nice catch!
@@jyugwat2952 thank you!
I can’t wrap my head around the 4 directional guard dash. It feels like there are more inputs than shown. Any tips?
Minutes after writing this I figured it out 😋
@@CheeZbredDawG attaboy. Guard with this and your lance gameplay will start to feel entirely different.
Guard dash is kind of like my “panic button”
the cool thing about MH is, that at some point, every weapon becomes the best weapon!
this is when you have mastered the game! every weapon has its own character and playstyle and its way to shine as brightly as any other weapon!
Exactly! Pick the one you think is cool! If you think it’s cool you will learn a complicated weapon. If it’s weak you will learn to bring out the damage.
Thanks for watching!
Is Guard Up Jewel needed? I see you use it, but on reddit many say it's not smart to use with Lancer. What's your opinion?
Guard up is required to block things like rajang beam, velkhana beam, teostra ulti, etc.
I’m not sure the reason Reddit said don’t use it, i do not read Reddit. I like put it on always so I don’t ever worry about what I can or cannot guard.
positioning and blocking will increase your damage far greater than a jewel slot. If something like blast resist lets you stand in brachydios face and continue poking, this will increase your damage more than crit boost. If flinch free lets you stand among your teammates to poke, this will increase your damage more than weakness exploit. If guard up lets me stand in rajang’s beam and continue poking him, I think that will increase damage more than attack boost.
Not sure what Reddit means by that, but i don’t just listen to ppl on the internet…I need to understand the reasoning and apply it to my own game.
@@jyugwat2952Amazingly in-depth answer, thank you so much! Just picked this game up this week, so still very new to all of it. Currently trying to get the guard up jewel, but it's quite a grind- haha. I'll probably get a flinch free jewel as well, I'm constantly getting staggered by team mates!
Thanks for the excellent answer! :)
@@bob_votari ahh I see. There are some great ways to get jewels, so hopefully you find your shield jewel. Those attacks are generally uncommon in the beginning of the game, so maybe you can do without it until you come across them.
Teammates can trigger your counter too… so it may be miserable to lance amongst them.
In either situation don’t feel shame in switching from lance until later.. Lance will always be there for you. Enjoy your adventure!
On the fence between this and Bow. I played Lance in Sunbreak and GU’s High Rank… so I’m _really_ missing Insta-block. Not sure if I can enjoy the weapon without it
Maybe it will return in Wilds!
My prediction is they will make the power guard thrust a charged attack and we will be spamming power guard thrust all hunt. Ppl will hate it.
Lance in Rise felt great but I have a tough time with it in World. Almost like it doesn’t take damage as well as it does in Rise or the damage feels less too.
Do you feel that’s true or do I just need to keep practicing?
I have a whole video about this on my channel.
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9:20 my theory is the devs of iceborne took the effort to balance lance, while rise sunbreak they did not. You feel like the guard is weaker because it is: monsters chip through your shield even at the maximum guard level. 2:42 The fact that this only works with guard 5 is intentional. lance killers exist in the game so that lancers cannot sit and guard everything passively. This is all intentional to promote the true style of the lance: to aggressively heal back the health you are losing to chip, with health regain augment. It is no mistake that these monsters that chip all appear after health regen becomes available.
In rise it feels like they forgot about lance. What will you guard with G5 plus embolden? Nothing in the game needs you to stack both, because there is no intention behind it. No monster has lance killing moves. Sunbreak monsters behaviour is designed to punish counters of all the weapons by ridiculous combos and follow up attacks. What does this mean for Lance? Nothing. Instablock or just counter again. Because they did not consider lance. This is why the guard feels different.
Cont.. the reason you feel like sunbreak does more damage is because it does. I feel iceborne lance is a bit undertuned compared to other weapons. You need to know where your damage comes from to feel it, which is why it is so misunderstood as a tank and I try so hard to promote the lance.
When rise switched to sunbreak they arbitrarily dialed up damage on leaping thrust, and instablock counter. Suddenly everyone started loving the lance.
Great question! Thanks for asking!
Lance was indeed a bit under tuned in Iceborne compared to Sunbreak, maybe Capcom was a bit paranoid of giving Lance too much power like Striker Lance in MHGU 😂
That said, you can try fitting in more Charge Finisher Thrust!
This thing really do a lot of work pumping your DPS up if you know when to sneak them in.
Obviously, you should already chain it with Triple Poke whenever monster is downed/trapped.
But sometimes you can sneak them in actual combat too.
Like when monster flinches (but not clagger), they usually give you enough time to perform a short-range Charge Finisher on them as those monsters are trying balance themselves.
Or sometimes you can do a predictive Charge Finisher too. If you know where the monster's head will be after one of its bigger attack then you can just sneak in a Charge Finisher before doing a Triple Poke.
I have noticed my hunt time becoming quite a bit faster the more I can successfully squeeze in these attacks, hopefully they're helpful enough 😂
@@TanegiHoneydew my biggest issue was coming from learning Lance on Rise, I relied on leaping thrust spam a lot. It seems like it does way more damage than in World. In Rise it seemed like a viable damage output whereas on World it seems like it’s mainly for repositioning. Now that I got that out of my head and focusing more on pokes, it’s going a lot better.
How do I guard dash on mouse and keyboard? For the life of me I can only guard dash forward and cannot do it side to side or backwards
For side to side or backwards, it has to chain from another attack first. Kind of like longsword counter.
You can do it backwards from idle 6:36
I guess the game does not tell you that.
@@jyugwat2952 after asking on steam forums I found out you can indeed guard dash in all 4 directions from basically standing still. With your weapon unsheathed AND holding the guard button you then press the clutchclaw button and it'll enter this "zoomed in camera mode" (dunno what to call it) where your character will now always remain facing wherever you point the camera and if you press the backwards key your character will no longer full spin to face that direction and instead actually begin walking backwards very slowly. Within the very first frame of walking backwards you can now guard dash backwards. Same goes for side to side. It's super clunky on mouse and keyboard, clearly designed for controller play but hey at least it works.
Lance is the weapon that hands down benefits the most from health augument
12:55 as a dancer i agree, no wonder i like the lance so much
I'm good at timing XD
Actually did not know you could shield dash in all 4 directions. Holy shit mind blown!
It is so satisfying watching a speedrunner guard dash perfectly… it looks like they are stuck to the monster
This is definitely something I've needed in my gameplay. Sticking to a mon from left or right has always been frustrating for me.
I picked up the lance on a whim because I wanted to fight monsters a bit more defensively. However, I quickly discovered the sheer possibilities it had as an offensive weapon. I was an Insect Glaive main, and I found mountain with the lance so much more fun and actually landing the mount. Plus, she sheer hilarity of chasing down monsters while running with the lance is just great. The more I played it, the more I realized that it really is more like a boxer mentality. Sure, the shield can be a tank, but you can also use it to exchange blows without waiting behind the shield constantly. I admit, I haven't guard hopped, but I think it's what I've been looking for, being more mobile in the actual fight.
This is exactly it.
The lance is severely misrepresented and it’s a real shame that it is 14th in popularity. I hope Lancers can have a revelation like you, or non-lancers give the weapon a proper chance.
Thanks for your comment! Thanks for watching!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Spot on
No wonder my counters seem off timing later in the combos. Didnt know guard 5 was so necessary.
imma lance user at least for 4 MH series, it feels damn good to stay giving DPS without moving an inch XD
Cool. Played hammer for Rise, i'll try lance for World.
How to use guard point on keyboard sir?
There’s basic controls in your hunters notes in game.
Guard dash is movement, guard, and low thrust buttons pressed together.
Can you do a gear guide progression for lance Iceborn? I am on the struggle bus.
My best advice on this for a new player: make it a habit to review each new armour when it becomes available. If you do this gradually as you progress through the game, you will be able to make armour sets yourself.
Copied from my answer to someone else:
When I mention "set" you'll have to google the armour set and set bonus effect yourself, and have a look at what it does. The following should be valid for all the weapons that use sharpness except for gunlance. ALWAYS take as much health boost as you can (max 3).
Before iceborne:
The general path for armour is anything with high defense until you can build odogaron set. Odogaron set should be good until you can get Teostra set. You only need to wear 3 armour pieces of Teostra to get Master's Touch: the best set bonus before fatalis.
The path for weapons I recommend kulu yaku tree, or the furthest right weapon that has your elemental advantage. This should be good until you can get weapons from the nergigante tree.
I think the paths are the same for master rank in Iceborne. At that point you should be able to decide on your own.
This is the general path if you do not want to think too much, but you should take your time to discover which armour and skills you like yourself. Do not just listen to me or some guy on the internet.
PS: The most important thing for lance is to build to allow you to stay in position. If you find you are leaving position to sharpen, you need sharpness skills. If you are leaving position because of blast blight, build anti blast. If you are leaving position to heal, build more guard.
Good luck!
@@jyugwat2952 Great advise thank you and appreciated.
How you get maximum stamina?
Eat a meal at the cantina before a hunt. If you cart you can raise it again by consuming rations or steak, or an ancient potion.
The extended stamina bar you see in this video is only possible with the fatalis armour set bonus.
If you find you need more stamina with the lance even after eating, I recommend building the skill guard.
Thank you, i wanted to escape GS so bad.