Is This the BEST Generation of Toyota Trucks?
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Can 2 seasoned Toyota truck legends from the 2000s still hang with the all-new 2024 models? We brought our 2006 Toyota 4Runner and 2011 Toyota FJ Cruiser to the woods to get an off-road perspective. Will legendary Toyota reliability and ruggedness prevail, or will the latest technology and features steal the show? Buckle up as we dive deep into these vehicles and settle the debate: Do we own the BEST generation of Toyota trucks?
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YOU rock man 🫶 This algorithm is a fickle mistress, but hopefully we're learning and chipping away at it!
Early 2000's was the best generation for a lot of vehicles. For me, it marked the last generation where a truly electronic-free driving experience was available. I always admired the FJ's in particular because of the fully-manual transmission and transfer case combo. This setup was also available on the first gen Nissan Xterras. I will forgo any conceivable performance advantage made possible by electronics in exchange for the sheer reliability of the old, 100% mechanical drivetrains.
I couldn't have said it any better, this EXACTLY! The true golden age 😁
I've had a 2007 FJ Cruiser with just under 30k miles, manual trans. It was fun, but when I wanted to go camping the cargo space and the second row seats would fill up fast. The best Toyota I've had was a 2005 Toyota Sequoa and I seriously regret selling it. It rides like a luxury SUV, has off-road capability, and having the third row seats removed gives plenty of space for camping or gear.
Man you're touching on something I really want to dive deeper on now, because what you said is 100% true. I love the manual so much, especially off-road, but there are a few tradeoffs in the space department that can't be ignored.
The Sequoia definitely does not get enough credit for what it is! Did you replace it for a different off-roader that couldn't meet the capabilities of the Sequoia?
Thanks so much for checking us out! 🙏🙏
The Sequoia with the 4.7 is underrated for sure.
Love my tree (sequoia). Originally got it because I actually needed to seat my family of 7 on road trips and still have some cargo space. ButC now that I’m spoiled on all the cargo space for solo trips, it’s hard to convince myself to downsize. I can throw a pile of storage containers and a queen air mattress in the back, and never have to worry about how I’m gonna cram everything back there.
As my family grows, the Sequoia just keeps looking better and better. It is SO hard to imagine letting go of the manual transmission in the FJ, but that space and functionality is undeniable 😍
Absolutely agree with you guys, I have an 80 series Land Cruiser with the 1HDT 4.2 in line 6 Diesel, so I will never change it for a new fancy Toyota
An absolute legend! That truck will outlive all of us, and we're insanely envious 😂
Buddy is THE definition of “that white dude” 😂 those dance moves and that exit 🤣🤣🤣
🤣😭🤣 he is HIM!!!
I have a 2012 Nissan frontier pro 4x and it doesn't have any luxury perks but thats the way i like it nothing to break its got a rear locker and i put a Bilstein 5100 kit on it and some new uca's and it hasn't failed me yet.
Yesssss! Nissans from this era are SO underrated. Not as many creature comforts, but they absolutely nailed the fundamentals. And that 4.0 VQ engine is so rowdy! Rev happy, and adds so much fun and character to the truck.
I had an 07 Xterra Off-Road before the FJ. 6 speed manual with the rear locker, it was an absolute unit. Started every time and gave me zero problems. Took it to 250k miles before I found the deal on the Toyota. Man I still miss that thing.
This video is really cool, I've never been into trucks and SUV's but I'm willing to learn about them if you can really make them your own like you can with an older car
Thank you so much! And yes, there is so much you can do to trucks like this! In some ways you can have more fun, because the drivetrains are really robust and reliable, so you don't have to spend much money maintaining them and can instead spend your hard-earned money customizing them however you want!
We will definitely make some more videos diving deeper on this if you're interested 😁Thanks for giving our video a chance! 🙏🙏
Had the 2012 TE FJ
06 V6 4Runner
Currently 06 V8 4Runner
Recently sold my 01 LSB 6sp E46 M3
Can’t justify getting any of the newer models as replacement.
Yes, same boat!! We've been less and less impressed with newer vehicles as they come out. It's like they trade the character of these cars in for more horsepower and a bunch of features that just numb the whole experience..
Also, congrats on your fantastic taste! A 6 speed Laguna Seca M3?! What a dream! Was it a good ownership experience?
@@Automobros it was a pleasure to drive for the past 15 yrs that I owned it.
All my buds have the latest gadgets for off roading. Me? A nearly stock FJ and I can go every where they go with no more problems than they have with all the gizmos.
Exactly!!! We forget how capable these things are right out of the box. It feels like these trucks are being dragged up market constantly by the latest doohickeys, and for off roading, we're kinda missing the forest for the trees here..
Spot on. I was late to the Toyota party. I have a 22 5th gen 4 runner. Plan to keep it forever. I hate the direction toyota is going with all these technological advances . I realize regulations need to be met but they should of kept a dinosaur around . Whether it was a Land cruiser,4runner, tundra, fj, tacoma, hilux. There should be a version that is barebones, naturally aspirated, and just overall reliable . These new iterations won’t out last their predecessors.
That's something I'm noticing, people with the older Gen vehicles talk about them like family heirlooms! We all just have so much confidence in that bare bones reliability. Obviously it remains to be seen if the new ones can carry that torch, but they already seem so much more complicated, so much more finicky. It feels like we're entering the "disposable generation" of vehicles.
And you touched on something we didn't in the video that's important to note: regulations are no doubt driving a lot of these choices! When you see Toyota still offering the 70 series Land Cruiser overseas, or that cool $10k truck that just came out, it feels like they are fighting with one hand tied behind their back in the US. But it's hard to feel bad for them when they in turn price gouge the bejeezus out of their customer base with a bunch of tech we could honestly do without.
@@Automobros Totally agree . Prices basically doubled in 25 years …..mrsp: on a 2000 3rd gen 4 runner was 25k. Probably could get one out the door around 20k back then . 70 series LC is amazing . They would sell them like hot cakes in America even at 100K+. However we aren’t getting that in this lifetime. Toyota will figure out the reliability aspect with all these new truck models but I would proceed with caution for the next 3 years . Gx550 is my favorite out of the new trucks as far as looks. I have no desire to ever buy one though .
@@yourpalbobbyboi completely agree with everything you said!! It blew my mind that a 2014 Tacoma TRD off-road MSRP was 37k and 10 years later it's 63k!!!
And the new GX is such a beautiful vehicle, when it was announced I was astonished by how good a job they did on the design. But I'm on the same page, I'm not interested in actually owning one
I'm a little biased towards my 03 Taco and 97 Landcruiser but the 2005-2015 stuff is probably the pinnacle of Toyota engineering
I love the styling and dimensions of the 03 Taco so much! The 80 series is definitely a legend, and even IT is packing tech they can't seem to find or remember for the new ones
*cough* triple locking diffs *cough*
@Automobros Sadly I don't think they could put front lockers on the new trucks. People are snapping axles with traction control alone on stock tires. From what I gather, the solution from Toyota is to detune the engine 🤦♂️ What happened to overbuilding everything? Seems like everything is built to a minimum standard now.
@Shakshuka69 Could not agree with that sentiment more. Toyotas kinda stop feeling like Toyotas when you feel like you need to be careful with it or it's going to break (especially in a stock configuration!) It feels like they're just coasting and cashing in on the reputation they built on these older trucks now...
@Automobros Well said!
2008 Trail Teams FJ with manual. Went through two throw out bearings. Had to drop tranny both times at a cost of $4,000 each time, under warranty. Punted at 61,000 miles as I didn’t want to pay out of pocket for a third.
Holy cow! Those are brutal repair bills, I wouldn't want to hold onto it either... It would be like holding a live grenade once the warranty expired 😱 what do you drive now?
Your rigs are great. Just purchased a new 2024 4Runner. Not the latest tech but looking forward to future mods
Congratulations man! The 5th gen is still on our side of the fence, it has the same frame and the bulletproof V6! And you have almost 2 decades of aftermarket available when you start modding 😁
Deep dive on the suction mount, please!
Okay! 😁
Great video! Thanks for all the information.
Thank you! And absolutely, It's what we're all about! 😁
I did the same thinking when buying my 2006 Toyota Sequoia. Mpg seemed essentially the same and it does everything I could want or need, just added a head unit. $6000 when I bought it in 2021, as much as some upgrade packages on new models.
Yes exactly this!! The fact you can get so much capability and reliability for the price of an upgrade package on a new one.. the math just doesn't math
I’ve had the FJ for 14 years, and my buddy has the v8 4Runner.
No way!!! That's awesome 😁 It's just such a cool duo.
Man 14 years! Does that mean you're the original owner of a 2010?
@@Automobros I bought what was the first FJ sold at that dealership in 2007, but after it was leased for 3 years. I payed 23,500 Canadian, and some are still selling at that price today.
I added metal tech winch bumper and sliders, expedition one rear bumper, bud built skids, and icon stage 6 lift.
@SB-xu8pi that's just too cool man. And it's wild how well they've retained their value. There's just nothing else like them!
And your rig sounds ready for anything! I'm only like halfway there 😆 how many KMs? And do you get to take it out in the Canadian Rockies?
Both are solid trucks 👍
Just Sub’d guys!!
Great channel. Love both of your rigs and don’t ever sale them!
I’m rocking my v8 4.7l 02’ Tundra SR5 4wd w/ Limited slip rear w/ 2.75” lift on OME 2886s. Wheels 16” MB Wheels w/ 285-75 r16 . My truck mobs quite nicely. Plus I own the truck out rt, title in safe
Thanks so much man!! Pumped to have you on board 🙏🙏
Man from what I can see in your profile pic, your truck looks SICK!! That tire size just looks perfect on the 02 chassis. And you have the best mod of all - the title mod 😁 we for sure don't plan on selling either, these things have just been so good to us
The thing no one realizes is that quality in Toyota suvs is mostly dependent on where it’s made. Both of those trucks are made in the Tahara plant in Japan, same as Landcruiser and Lexus suvs. The American made models such as Tacoma and Tundra are made well but not to the same level. Look at what it takes to be able to work in the Tahara plant, I believe it’s twenty years of experience in the same automotive assembly job with Toyota. That’s the Difference. I have owned five 4Runners, every generation but the first and all have been solid. My current 2017 is completely built for off road and overland camping. It has been great. I hope this helps shed some light on the subject. Also just an fyi, the fj isn’t all wheel drive. The fj is the same drive train as the 4Runner, not the limited 4runner
Very true, that's an excellent point that deserves to be noted! The trucks built in Japan really are on a different level quality wise. There's absolutely some extra peace of mind coming out of that plant. After having owned so many 4Runners, do you have a favorite generation? And do you think you'll get a 6th gen?
Also, yes you're correct about the FJ drivetrain if it is an automatic! The manual version has full time 4wd
Need to restore the headlights
You read our minds! 🫣
I currently have the 4th gen 4runner and previously owned an FJ Cruiser, both are great trucks. I wish Toyota would have offered the 4.7 V8 in the FJ... that would have been a sweet combo. Also, a larger factory gas tank.
Man it would've been a world eater with the V8! And absolutely agree on the gas tank. It's a bit of a bummer being able to watch the fuel needle drop in real time lol
The 4th gen didn't get a lot of credit for what it was back in the day, but they kinda ended up in the sweet spot of its lineage!
@@Automobros 👍
FJ for the Win, he has a better Beard game too. 🤣
Hahahaha I'll take it, I grew it all summer! 🤣🙏
Just bought a 2005 LC and probably wont get rid of it ever.
Absolutely, doubt you'd ever be able to come up with a reason to. They are just so good.. Congratulations on your new truck!! 😁
Don't know how I ran up on this channel but I'm glad I did I love this generation off toyota trucks I have a 2005 4runner 4.0 4wd transmission went out at 396767 miles lol and I'm putting a new transmission in it as we speak lol it's some vehicles that u get ride off with high mileage but theses generation of toyota u dont it's worth fixing lol love my 4runner.
So glad you found us man! We'll for sure be doing a bunch more Toyota content 😁
Almost 400k Miles?! 🤯 Just Incredible. When you know they're going to last and you can depend on them, it's so much easier to justify the big repairs!
Gx460/470same platform
Yessss! Rocking that silky smooth V8 and all the capabilities of these vehicles, with a heaping scoop of comfort on top. It was the hidden American Land Cruiser Prado for the longest time!
I'm a huge believer in, if it ain't broke don't fix it.. I have a 05 Sequoia piece of a build pics&videos on my channel,
Also the new Toyota lines and their progression in the evolution of Toyota looks cool and sounds cool but I think they are moving out from behind the eight ball .. I wouldn't trade my first gen Sequoia for a brand new Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter. My first gen Sequoia is way more capable than anything they are producing today. That's why I spent 60k on a extreme off-road long travel Beast build on 20 year old Toyota instead of buying a new one ..😬🤪
@@sqeekms6186 subscribed!! Bro your Sequoia is SICK! I would take yours over a new Trailhunter every single time 🤩
@@Automobros I am subscribed now I've watched your shows before I did not realize I wasn't subscribed 👍🏻
@@sqeekms6186 thanks so much man! 🙏🙏
@@Automobros it is total chaos 3.5 long travel cane coilovers in the front and King triple bypasses in the rear that I relocated outboard of the frame eton front and rear lockers 488 gears
All Metal tech rear trailers & custom panhard bar
@@Automobros I have 2.0 King hydraulic pump stops for the rear I have it installed yet 2.5 triple bypasses behind the coilovers in the front for dual shocks
Love my 09 Tacoma
We had one of those floating around our orbit for a little bit! Great truck 😁 How long have you had it? Color? Miles?
Merch discounts
?! Wow
What do you all think about cv axel on a 02 tundra?
Hahahaha thanks for watching to the end! 😘
I think it's good to throw a spare in the bed if it's original! Never know when the trail is going to want a taste of that axle goo
@@Automobros can you post a tundra specific cv fix?
A Toyota front axle? We might be able to make that happen 😇
@@Automobros ❤️ it
Can you share the link with your rims? Im looking to get myself same kind but I see all aftermarket and not sure about quality, you have tested yours so i can gem as well
Absolutely! Here's the link to the wheels on the 4Runner. The site has lots of styles and colors though!
www.relationsracewheels.com/collections/toyota-4runner/products/rr7-s-flow-form-17x8-5-6x5-5-6x139-7-toyota-tacoma-4runner?variant=40617373171794
Quality-wise, they have been rock solid and we'd 100% recommend them! Mine have taken a beating on the trails and Ive had no issues whatsoever. Just has me looking at the beadlocks or beauty rings that RRW also sells!
@@Automobros Do you mind sharing how you got a deal on these? I want to grab some for my 4runner.
Absolutely! Trail4runner.com was doing a "group buy" for these wheels, so with the discount they were running I was able to buy 5 for the price of 4. I haven't kept up with the site but I know they offer different group buys from time to time.
You might reach out to them or RRW and see if they will be running any deals like that in the near future!
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I have a 2008 tacoma 5speed 4cyl 4x4 I also paid 15000 for it and my wife drives a 2007 fj cruiser they are definitely awsome reliable trucks the new Toyotas have lost my interest they have too much tech and not enough bare bones 4x4 needs reliability expeshally if your out out in the woods the last thing you need is the latest tech and whistles and bells that’s just more to fail
Sounds like a match made in heaven! ☺️ Could not agree with you more, they just keep packing the new trucks with more and more tech, at the expense of simplicity and reliability. It's all just so much more that could go wrong when you're out in the middle of nowhere!