Months Later, Blizzard Have Nailed The War Within's Most Exciting Feature
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You say have when you should say has. Its annoying and bothers me. I dont know why.
@@CarlosSpicyweiner-iv8mq You understood the message and communication was achieved. What you're doing now is just complaining. Another name for a complainer is bitching. Don't be a little bitch.
Holy crap, it’s cool that some of those pointless spells we never use, like warlocks underwater breathing, now have a purpose! My wife and I play a lot, but because we don’t already run a ton of mythics to get our score up, and aren’t super over geared, pigging mythics isn’t really an option. These delves will literally be a game changer for us.
Removing the cost for entry is the best thing. Horrific Visions felt terrible for farming currency for ages and getting limited LEARNING attempts per week, mega dismay for dying early and missing chests.
I liked having to get currency. It could make it feel more rewarding to get into. What was boring was doing the bland daily quests to get the currency.
Visions were super fucking easy tho
@@AlesMicik Only after outgearing them.
3:26 yes, good looking floors
The delves have been entertaining so far, all slightly different, and if you pay attention to the little things, a few of them set you up some dungeon content.
Somehow ranting in forums about a 4th pillar of the game has payed off, even if it wasn't the catalyst for it to happen.
Tho many were very antagonistic about it, like how much they hate the idea.
Leatherworkers are going to have an easier time in the underwater delve if the BFA diving helmets work. I used to carry some on me along with the suits but then realized I can just stitch one up whenever I need one since resources in your bank can be used from anywhere at anytime, the question of "how the fuck are you swimming so fast?" being answered with "divin' suit" will never not be funny.
i think casters (and ranged in general) need some kind of overhaul to casting where they can move at like an RP walk pace while casting, and "cast while moving" spells and passives will negate that movement speed reduction
No, they should leave it like this. That's the idea of casting.
@@Gojimaru why should they leave it? "thats the idea" well the idea isnt working, and its causing problems that make the game less fun
@@TheWideMurloc Play hunter. Pvp would be absolutely broken if the casters can cast and move.
@@Gojimaru dog, for pvp, an RP walk during casting would be effectively 0 difference. May as well be standing still. It's just a little thing that would make it so it's not an absolute pain in the ass when fighting bosses where new attacks are constantly spawning on the ground interrupting your casts
@@Gojimaru What a daft answer
I love when blizzard prove us wrong.
it is not live yet...
12:21 Sorry, just needed a moment to mention how clean that solve was, lol. Kudos to whoever that was!
Wow, I'm actually looking forward to these!
I’ve been delving all day and whoever did this needs a raise and their own dept to do more. They are awesome.
With D4s recent success, the M+ changes being so well received and now this. I can't recall the last time Blizz was farming this many Ws. The dark times may finally be over!
I've held onto the hydrocane from Gnomeregon and The Kuluak fishing rod with waterbreathing since at least LK, now it'll be useful again 😂
I have that pandaria toy and the legion fishing rod
Excited for the new expac! The Dragonflight burnout is real.
It can certainly feel like this if you play wow a lot, but truly considering the patch cadence of dragonflight as well as we get a super early expansion release, it truly isnt that bad.
@@The86Ripper im getting my "I survived Warlords of Draenor 6.2 T-shirt"
@@The86Ripper Truly, truly so truly.
Certainly! And truly.
@@tarkhan15 Mists of pandaria last patch lasted for 14 months too 😂
I am so happy to hear this. Delves are THE thing I'm looking forward to the most in TWW.
This is a good example of why people shouldn’t freak the hell out as soon as the alpha hits.
But who am I kidding
Im really excited for this! Always loved raiding and m+ with the homies, but having some solo content like that, you can just hop into whenever you want, is something I hoped we get for a long time now.
Good god the porn bots have now infected CZcams comments.
they have for a very long time now
that candle thing might bother me cause i am a strafer that doesnt stop moving sometimes lol
The fact that there's a seasonal affix for delves is bad news for me. It means they plan on reusing these same delves for the whole expansion. I was kind of hoping since delves are small and because the WoW team is a lot bigger these days that they'd make a new batch of delves for each season, or at least a few new ones.
Shaman and Won in the same sentence without haven't between them is not expected.
What I saw in Delves initially I was like... wow great. So this is good hearing they're improved
Hmmm delves could be a good casual way to teach players boss/raid mechanics to prepare them for raids/m+
My only fear is that in order to clear more difficult delves you are going to need gear that is not available by only doing delves.
Well you can get vault slots from delves so I feel like that won’t be that big of an issue. Maybe it’ll time gate us if anything.
Great video as always! Hoping for a new WoW UI video using the base Blizzard ui before the TWW launch.
I don't understand why they always split content. Why not enable solo options in dungeons and raids, you just need to add/remove mechanics, not create a separate thing specially for that. Maybe that's next on the list, but IMHO they are wasting resources here. They could have added or improved dungeon and raid experience for solo content, rather then wait, and do so with time.
It’s an mmo, it is supposed to have group content, if you want only solo content you can go play a single player rpg
I dont understand, they keep advertising Delves as another piece of ‘endgame content’, but I also see conflicting reports stating it will be on Heroic -> M0 level gear? Is there a definitive answer that we can 100% confirm?
Delves are the main reason I'll be returning to wow, really looking forward to testing different classes & talents in delves before pushing mythics
Bad damage on Brann is I guess why healers are struggling in delves
They need to fix Bran and make him a proper DPS because once he’s a proper DPS healers can go through delves just by healing him.
Or tanks laughing even about the "hard" DPS checks ... oh this is going to be fun.
@@andreasmuller4666 hunters be laughing too finally eyes of the beast has some use
Hopping this will be the one that hooks me back in 😅
Will my artifact fishing rod actually have a use again?!
I was thinking if playing my DH as my main this time but maybe my original main Enh Shaman hmm.
There is still time in the beta for things to change, but right now as someone who mains havoc and alts ele i would put my money on enhance. There was a blue post this week stating that next week's beta build will include a ton of shaman class and spec tree changes based on player feedback. Havoc unfortunately has had almost no dev interaction. One of their trees is universely disliked, and the other is bland and undertuned. Again i do want to stress that there's still time in the beta for any of this to change. Next week we could get our "dont worry guys it's coming" post, but for now shaman has theirs and get to see what it is tuesday.
Can you please tell me what kind of monitor you have? That you use for the clips?
I just want to do things because I enjoy it not because I have to.
As a frost mage on Beta alot of my CC just don't work . On alot of the adds I can't get any kind of distance just feels dad about half the time
I’m just glad it’s not torghast
I really loved torghast, the issue was not the tower itself it was mantatory run for other content gear and poor cosmetic rewards (just shoulders instead of full sets and low rng to get them). Also the other issue is that... well it was SL so...
ìve got a feeling that delves will be burned out and less fun than torghast.. just a hunch
@@EvilBigMad im of the same mind. i actually enjoyed the power progression of torghast and would have killed for an infinite floor mode but im a weirdo
Same. I fucking loved Torghast. I just hated that there weren't more rewards to fun-play. Remix sort if reminds me of it, but with way better game play loops and rewards.
New torgast
Friendlier Torghast, is what i call this mode.
Been a lot of fun to play, i do hope they get the class balance better. Cause i had lot more succeses with certain classes and like you guys said shadow priest arent looking good which is the class i want to play but this makes me not want to as delves are the main thing ill be doing
get some pal to tank for you den!
isn't there a problem where, in order to help in higher levels of delves, people with gear not coming from delves (from multiplayer content) will have an uncatchable advantage?
All the ones other than the candle sounds fun but the candle sounds just stupidly obnoxious.
Can’t wait! ❤
As someone that works in telecom. Please never EVER let an app 'negotiate down' your phone bill. Most promotions these days are based on the plan that you're on and many of the addons like insurance are easy ways to cut down. So if this app changes your plan to something lower, there goes your promotion on the phone which actually will raise your bill and there will be nothing that can be done about it. Or, it might remove insurance and suddenly you're in store thinking that you have it and now the phone isn't covered. I just want to warn people away from something like app auto management for a phone bill because it's super disingenuous for them to promote that so irresponsibly.
It'd be nice if they gave healer specs a slight damage buff to you and your companions damage and maybe make him take more damage as a tradeoff or make mobs target him more. Not saying healers should go as fast a dps, but then it would test a healers ability to heal their companion while doing damage too.
I really loved visions of n'zoth on BFA, and this looks like visions on steroids
The Delve system looks fun, and I like that there are some bonuses of being certain races or have certain choices but I 100% know that people will be whining about "META" and so on because they have to think.
That's ironic; in SL the game felt SUPER punishing to the point where the game was unplayable if you were Melee.. It's nice to see melee get some love for a change.
Arent delves suppose to also have a companion that you can upgrade that comes with you ?
Wouldn't increasing magic resistance/protection of casters with limited interrupt/crowd control somewhat improve the situation with delves' (and solo content in general) playability? I mean, without homogenizing classes.
7:39 ye we want challenge, but that doesnt mean longer (boring) fights!
Damn after all the last videos I'm so happy for Bel: He will love playing WOW in the next years.
I haven't really seen much about it, but how exactly does Brann work in this?
I honestly assumed he had a spec tree you could choose talents for, which could solve issues like (for example) speccing him into an interrupt talent if your class is lacking one.
Hearing about the complaints people have with Delves though: I assume you just level him up and he increases in power?
in regards to the water breathing thing from that one delve, the fishing pole for exalted with the Kalu'ak in WOTLK allows for breathing under water.
Which with the warband system working will eventually be something you can buy on multiple characters without them all needed the rep once they get it working for older expansion reps.
Sadly, the Fishing Pole special effects, like the one from the Kalu'ak Fishing Pole or the Legendary Fishing Pole are actually only active, while you have the Fishing Equipment buff active. So you will need to be able to cast your line once, and then you'll only have waterbreathing till you engage in combat, as that will disable the effect.
And since you can't cast a fishing pole underwater, it won't be usable. So time to befriend an Alchemist for some Waterbreathing Potions :D
This is the feature I have been waiting for.
can you play delves as tank or healer? and when I say "can you play" it's not "is it possible?" is, is there any interest to do so over dps? is this interesting?
9:53 I thought these did have a cost of entry? Some sort of keys that would have to be farmed up.
I think you forgot who the Delves were supposed to be for, the Solo/Casual. Now they can't be soloed by more than 2/3rds of the Classes.
Sure they can. There are literally ELEVEN LEVELS of delve and you can choose which difficulty you want.
I'm Curious, as someone who plays heals for dungeon and raid, but never 'casually' (lol not like I'm much good) or in the open world, what would you want for casual and open world healer content?
Bran can be set to be a DPS so you can still go through them as a healer spec. They probably just need to tune Brans output and create a way to focus the gameplay on your skill as a healer.
Solo doesn’t mean casual. Some solo players love challenge. Mage Tower challenges was not casual content.
@@SpeedDemonAJbuff bran's damage, healer damage a bit, and make bran draw more aggro as a tradeoff so you have to heal him more
IM SO EXCITED FOR DELVES
That's how you style your hair and you bring the camera zoom and angle in to try counter balding . Asmon should be taking some lessons
Torghast was good. There was content in the game which is missing in dragonflight
I know a lot of people are hyped for more focused gameplay loops, but where's the dumb fun? Where's the brain-off-fun? I spend all my WoW time dodging Mythic affixes, raid boss swirlies, and now new mechanics specific to each delve.
Remix let's me play a Healer that spits damage abilities at random. Or poach weird ability combos to see how they interact. I have tons of fun just doing basic dungeons because it adds a little spark of random.
So when I see this being just another spreadsheet event I have to ask: Where's the fun?
You've said it yourself, Remix was a huge success so you bet there will be more remixes on the way. They will never do a permanent Remix mode tho because part of what drives people besides the fun, is the FOMO.
@@diegostrossen6751 We NEED a permanent fun activity. Timewalking acts that way (kind of) because as you said it's rare. Remix has been fun, but if you removed the leveling component and made a side-game of it it'd be almost evergreen.
Imagine 5-man Warfronts with tinker sockets and actual objectives. Or a Mage Tower with tinkers. You can do it without and earn a title, or with and earn currencies to collect old Transmogs that have been lost to prunings. Lots of stuff you can do to keep it going without killing it outright.
Will Delves be part of weekly vault?
Can't wait
So as a shadow priest they're painful.
I can already see the chat spam for "delve tank service - $10k". Blizz have made tanks into un-killable monsters with the highest healing in the game, and they will run over all delve content without ever encountering any risk.
That's usually only in high pop realms where general chat is spammed with carries.
I hope they don't pull a Torghast on these. Looked great on beta then was a nightmare on release.
Ok! I’m in. I’ll have to share time with FF14 but will do:))
Is healing Braan still useless
Good range is always down outdone melee for as long as I've played.
Sounds like nightmare dungeons from D4. Blizzard does seem to be in a rut with game development. Just make wow a 3rd person arpg with the d4 armor skins. People may actually pay $30 for a skin. 🤷♂️.
I'm worried these will be just a kite fest for my mage.
Sorry, but I can't agree. While I am sorta looking forward to have Delves in the game, designing to specific abilities that some classes don't have is only gonna lead to the same elitism/stratification we see around Meta in Mythic+. It could only be different if you could spec into something you normally do not, or get a trinket with a missing ability to supplement your own toolbox. Or at least, spec your NPC assistant accordingly. If we DO NOT get a way to do that, then it's not "solo play" content, it's "mandatory bring warlock/undead/whatever" content. We've seen tons of that before, we've seen it fail, we'll see it again I'm afraid - hopefully not, though.
Also, "most exciting"? Naaaah. Believe it or not, I am most excited about warbands. I am soooooooooo tired of playing "world of loadcraft" and distributing reagents of a given profession to an alt holding given profession. Now, I will finally be able to just keep ALL the mats in ONE place, at least for the current expansion, as we don't seem to have a clear clue just how large can the warband bank be... I have a mountain of old expac materials stashed for "just in case I want to craft something old for mog", which usually just sits in every alt reagent bank.
Hopefully delves will not be mandatory to do like Torghast was.
They just give gear rewards the same as other instanced content. It can only be as "mandatory" as raiding or M+
Heh, i only clicked on this vid because my mind auto-read 'nailed' as 'ruined' because ive apparently become too used to seeing negatives when a title mentions Blizzard, lol - Was fully getting ready for disappointment in TWW only to get whiplash when Bellular said he was excited to talk about this video!
Am I the only one who enjoyed a lot thorgast?
HELL YESSS
must be nice i sign up ever beta and yet to get invited wtf.
They'll tweak it into oblivion before release. Guaranteed.
Wait? Range is actually worse then melee???
Hidden Pants 👖 Transmog 😉
”…get better gear. That wont feel great for some people.”
Imagine that…
What was wrong with island expeditions? =/
I enjoyed Island Expeditions in BFA and did a lot of them. But here's a simplified answer:
Because they were tied to the artifact power grind system, Island Expeditions became a chore that people wanted to do as fast as possible to get the required AP for the week. The result was an unfocused blergfest of three random players heading in random directions, killing random mobs, mining azerite, clicking chests. Didn’t matter what island you were on or what form the mobs took.
Timer based. Blizzard loves timers to make their bland content exciting, but racing against the opposing faction’s team meant you couldn’t explore or plot out strategy, you just had to be charging ahead randomly. Had interesting encounters that were largely ignored because there was no time to figure things out. Just avoid them and get the low hanging chests. Doubly so for big mobs with endless stuns/interrupts/one shots.
No meaningful gear rewards. They were not self-supporting, meaning that you did not get better equipped for doing Expeditions by doing Expeditions. This is counter to every other evergreen form of content and it makes the experience self-limiting. Dungeons drop gear upgrades to take on harder keys. You get the gear to do harder raids by running raids. But for Torgast/Islands/Visions this was mostly not the case.
Hopefully Delves have solved these problems.
Wait do Earthen need to breath??
Turns out, yes.
Maybe it's a stand-in for a rust meter. Stay underwater for a minute and your joints rust up, and you die, lol.
Funfact: Delving is entirely and completely stolen from LOTRO last expansion......
Who thinks War Within will be the xpac to pull you back in wow?
I've been out since towards end of BFA.
I quit playing several months before but looking forward to the new expansion hope its good Just love mythic plus and hopefully these delves are fun aswell.
Video starts at 2.30....
This gonna die one month into exp. Dont know why we act like we dont know.
The background music/noise was mixed poorly and it made it really hard to follow your voice in this video
No issue here
Some mobs are a little overtuned the last time I tested it but overall it was a fun thing to do and I will probably fill a lot of random downtime with delves. The bosses were all too easy but casters especially, in some of the delves, almost oneshot you and once you run out of interrupts/cc you are at their mercy and most likely dead. Still managed to complete every level so it isn't impossible or too hard in general. Just needs finetuning.
N°1 question tought, can i get geared in delves ? And actual gear, not raid finder or heroic dg ilvl. If so, this may very well be the only end content i'll very happily do
It goes up to like heroic raid equivalent
uuuuh not sure if it is related to this video or not but I have to watch an unskippable 12 min long ad before ? it's even my 2nd ad break and I didn't watch half of the video!
pay for premium
Use Firefox and an AdBlock if they're getting too obnoxious
@@diegostrossen6751 dude, 12 min long! that's longer than a football game halftime!
"They have a lot of feedback on the forums to help them out"
yes, because they have a history of responding to feedback given in betas.
THE COMPANIONS ARE OURS ALTS ? if not, then i'm out.
I was hoping to be able to do these as my resto druid. It'll be pretty wank if they're not fun for healers.
Eww no. Tanks are much easier than healers to balance around, healers are always totally worthless or ridiculously OP, just ditch them for delves.
It’s never going to be worth the dev effort, but healer-NPC content needs to be created and tuned specifically for that.
@@ElliottBrady right, so people who play healers shouldn't get to do Delves. Solid thinking there.
@@DarenC he began with "eww".. don't bother talking with them as if theres any intelligence left lmao
WoW looks better and better nowadays.
i hope the graphics get a little facelift, they looked kinda dull, other than that, happy to see that this thing is actually good addition to wow, and not a feature that wastes your time, but you actually want to waste your time on them
Don’t blame the game when you’re playing on a PC with low graphics
Honestly, at this point they should just allow Casting while moving. It never made sense to me, that you couldn't run while chanting a spell.
We barely can type and walk at the same time, imagine casting a spell while running
Lol@@caiocarvalho8844
It could be light spells while walking
So as a longtime healer how am I going to get any kind of entertaining game play from this
You literally play a spec designed to support other players and you're mad that it's not very good to plsu solo?
"theres no soul ash, or soul cinder" . yet.
I just wish they aren't just all dank holes. Those instanced places can be anything.