Disappearing Content: Media is still getting wiped today

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
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    When content gets removed from the internet and streaming services…where does it go? And should we be worried about the future of shows that have only ever existed online? Artwork holds a reified place in our culture, but history is filled with stories of lost films, discarded manuscripts, paintings hidden beneath other paintings, and plays performed once and then never again. The difference now is that with all the technology available, and with digitization making things like storage far easier, shouldn’t we be past these kinds of problems? Here’s our take on the thorny issue of disappearing content, and the responsibility we have to keep art - like our shows and movies - alive.
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    We are The Take (formerly ScreenPrism).
    00:00 Media is STILL disappearing today
    01:15 How art gets lost over time
    03:48 MUBI
    04:46 Can digitally preserved work disappear too?
    07:52 When the kill switch gets pulled...
    11:50 The future of vanishing media
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  • @thetake
    @thetake  Před rokem +4

    Get a whole month of great cinema FREE on MUBI: mubi.com/thetake

  • @EChacon
    @EChacon Před rokem +356

    Although I enjoy Streaming services, having a show be removed after expiration with no way to see the show/film is the reason why I support Physical Media, because with Physical media you have the movie and especially show and episodes preserved without having the show on a specific streaming service be removed without notice.

    • @temin2776
      @temin2776 Před rokem +20

      That's why pirates exist.

    • @availanila
      @availanila Před rokem +8

      @@temin2776 I support digital media and uTorrent (or any other similar software) with gusto.

    • @ms.shineray
      @ms.shineray Před rokem +1

      Physical media get destroy as well.

    • @Ethan_Stephens
      @Ethan_Stephens Před rokem +13

      @@ms.shineray You can put a Blu Ray in your closet for years and 99% of the time it’ll go untouched. You can get a Netflix subscription and you have no control over if they take something down or not.

    • @zitronentee
      @zitronentee Před rokem +4

      I don't get why digital media is compared to physical media. Its direct comparison is tv broadcast and cable tv, not physical media.

  • @classicutie93
    @classicutie93 Před rokem +171

    This is the very reason that my dad refused to join streaming services and music streaming apps. We don't really own anything anymore with these instances. There are so many times that I go to look for an old movie and with the 8+ apps I have, the movie will literally be on none of them or it would be on another app that I don't have and have to pay for. It's really ridiculous. Technology is just....blah sometimes. Love/Hate relationship.

    • @zitronentee
      @zitronentee Před rokem +13

      Video cassette and DVD also don't last forever. Nothing in this world last forever. Enjoy while it lasts.

    • @duchessoftheprairie
      @duchessoftheprairie Před rokem

      YES this 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @joiceraiana
      @joiceraiana Před rokem +4

      @@zitronentee it last longer. We still have movies that are 100 years old. A lot of people have homemade tapes they recorded from music played on radios in the 80s and 90s (that was 40 years ago!)
      Someone in India tried to steal my spotify account this week and the only thing in my mind was "if I lost my account I can't listen to music" I have a little bit of anxiety and use my earphones to help with that when I'm in public, so I was really stressed talking with spotify client support so I could get my account back the quickest I could. Now I'm also buying few of my favorites, specially classic songs, that I can have in my phone, maybe I will buy a tape/cd player small radio, to have at home too, so that's doesn't happen again.

    • @zitronentee
      @zitronentee Před rokem

      @@joiceraiana It depends on the build quality. Every DVDs has different built quality. I have DVDs that only lasts 5 years. But other high quality DVDs can last much much longer.

  • @Nightman221k
    @Nightman221k Před rokem +244

    I love having all my favorite movies on physical media. It’s sad that some of the things streaming services are getting rid of have never been on physical media.

    • @RoninRen
      @RoninRen Před rokem +12

      Thank you, it's my why, that if there is a physical format to a movie/tv show, I'll try &buy it, as well as just finding them on a region 1(NTSC) format is hard enough as finding it at an affordable price,

    • @Exorcist364xs
      @Exorcist364xs Před rokem +5

      @@RoninRen I love having my DVDs!

    • @ploefff
      @ploefff Před rokem +2

      @@Exorcist364xs Me too. I've gotten comments about my collection but when you also like movies that aren't mainstream it makes sense. My biggest problem is newer dvd players don't last very long and it getting harder and harder to find replacements

    • @RoninRen
      @RoninRen Před rokem +1

      @@ploefff wow I know that feeling, basically the only blu-ray player that I liked(with a RCA connector &under $60) was a used one, otherwise &here I've been worrying dvd/blu-ray replacements if/when they get damaged,

    • @ty-guy4458
      @ty-guy4458 Před rokem

      Thankfully, bootlegs are as nice as official releases nowadays

  • @grassygrass1798
    @grassygrass1798 Před rokem +266

    That episode of Westworld that is spoken entirely in Lakota is so beautiful and rare to see in television, I can't believe they're gonna erase the whole show from HBO.

    • @Antifadiva
      @Antifadiva Před rokem +5

      Which episode is this?

    • @darlenedarlene4560
      @darlenedarlene4560 Před rokem +4

      @@Antifadiva i think it's season 2 episode 8

    • @marvel096
      @marvel096 Před rokem +11

      i'm so heartbroken about westworld, also the OA, it needed 5 seasons :(

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Před rokem +3

      @@marvel096 Season 5 was not going to redeem the previous 2 seasons. I was very optimistic when i saw the first 2 or 3 episodes of season 4 but then the whole plot devolved into nonsense. It is pretty clear to me that nobody in the production team of westworld cared about it anymore

    • @alexis_electronic
      @alexis_electronic Před rokem +6

      Make sure to seed, if you wanna preserve it!

  • @chrissiem3958
    @chrissiem3958 Před rokem +21

    The film Hugo touches on this. It tells the story of Georges Méliès, who was a pioneer in film (one of the best known images from his film is the Man in the Moon getting a rocket stuck in his face 😅), but most of his films are lost because it was too much money to store them, and film in those days could be melted down to make shoe soles. So again, money--- both the loss and making of it---- was the deciding factor on society losing some of our first ever films from a man who came up with some amazing stories, effects, and artworks....

    • @xgise
      @xgise Před rokem +2

      A movie by Scorsese. I didn't know about his film preservation foundation, but having seen Hugo, it makes so much sense that he would start a project like that

  • @emmamyhre9296
    @emmamyhre9296 Před rokem +189

    The original promise of streaming was to always have access to content, even if it wasn’t popular or good. My favorite show ever was a part of the HBO Original Content removal, and I’m still heartbroken that I might not get to see it again. Any Summer Camp Island fans out there?

    • @juanitacanon3120
      @juanitacanon3120 Před rokem +1

      If you have vpn you can watch it on another country. In mine it’s still on hbo.

    • @HyperWolf
      @HyperWolf Před rokem +3

      It’s on Solarmovie :)

    • @moxiec6174
      @moxiec6174 Před rokem

      I love summer camp island so much 😭

    • @professorthread
      @professorthread Před rokem +2

      Not a Summer Camp Island fan, but I empathize since I was a massive Infinity Train fan. It was one of the first shows on the chopping block and most evidence of its existence has been scrubbed from the internet.

    • @dineinunes
      @dineinunes Před rokem +1

      You know piracy exists, right? Even if HBO removes there is still websites out there where you can watch it.

  • @Dm34421
    @Dm34421 Před rokem +95

    It’s not always easy to buy physical medias. Some movies didn’t get DVD releases. It tools years for the Wonder years to be released on DVD

    • @joiceraiana
      @joiceraiana Před rokem

      Is case of release the file so people can download. Since is not important enough to keep it, not necessarily is a loss let it go for free.

    • @Bellatrux13
      @Bellatrux13 Před rokem

      Still one of greatest teenage shows of all time!

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 Před rokem

      I believe there were music clearance issues that delayed the DVD release. Same with WKRP in Cincinnati.

  • @robchuk4136
    @robchuk4136 Před rokem +32

    I remember some years back when I was shopping at Best Buy, and I asked an employee why the movie sections had gotten so small. He told me people were buying less physical Blu-Rays and DVDs so there was no point in having as many of them in-store anymore. It was a depressing truth. But also annoying...
    As someone who buys physical, we are often teased as being out of touch, or behind the times, and while I understand the conveniences, I see relying on digital-only as foolish, and moments like this make me want to say 'I told you so.' However, losing art isn't good for anyone.
    Maybe more people are going to vintage stock retailers like The Movie Trading Company, where they can buy physical media, including vinyl records, or especially old TV shows that never got the blu-ray treatment. But those places too are having their own problems with volume, and are constantly having sales and bargains just to get rid of too much stuff they have.

    • @samifarrell
      @samifarrell Před rokem +2

      something I miss in newer physical media like dvd & blu-rays is all the fun behind the scenes content. I hardly see it included anymore, if there even is a physical release of something. I'm sure it's the lack of sales that has lead to this and it makes me sad

  • @ybemad
    @ybemad Před rokem +15

    Great Take! It is so frustrating to get into a new show only to have it get cancelled! Netflix is contributing to its own downfall. What incentive do viewers have when they cancel shows before the story arc is completed?
    Loved the point of needing to better understand the cultural significance of some shows. Capitalism robs us of our humanity in so many ways. And denying us, as a society, from knowing stories of "the other" robs us of the opportunity to truly know and understand our full potential as people.

  • @larasaikali2483
    @larasaikali2483 Před rokem +43

    I wrote my thesis on the archives and how authority over the archives can play and impact on what gets out and what doesn’t. We talk about storage rooms in museums in my Art History seminars and I similarities in this video to those discussions.

    • @saintclairbernardes6159
      @saintclairbernardes6159 Před rokem +2

      Do you happen to have a link for it that you could share? It sounds incredibly interesting!

    • @larasaikali2483
      @larasaikali2483 Před rokem +1

      @@saintclairbernardes6159 at the moment it’s in the process of getting approved through my university. If you give me your email I can send you a copy of it.

  • @kosatochca
    @kosatochca Před rokem +62

    Damn, the job of future historians is going to be much more difficult than that of the past ones

  • @JoYiSgUiTaR
    @JoYiSgUiTaR Před rokem +12

    That why physical media rocks, my blu-rays won’t disappear from my shelves 👍🏼

  • @eden900573
    @eden900573 Před rokem +22

    I feel like this why we can’t have nice things anymore. It is all about the dollars and not about the art

  • @TheNicoDavis
    @TheNicoDavis Před rokem +93

    Mfs be like: Piracy is bad
    My brother in Christ you have made it impossible to watch my favorite shows legally because of tax write offs

    • @alepolait8951
      @alepolait8951 Před rokem +10

      yeah, i considered myself a retired torrent user. But i suspect i will start a movie collection again.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před rokem +1

      @@alepolait8951 What's a torrent?

  • @carrie2469
    @carrie2469 Před rokem +35

    This video is very fitting because 10 minutes before this was uploaded, I was searching for a short film by one of my favourite directors that I couldn’t find. Upon researching, no one can find it and it’s disappeared into thin air.

    • @blackdragon6
      @blackdragon6 Před rokem

      Same issue I have looking for a horror short film that aired on IFC.

    • @carrie2469
      @carrie2469 Před rokem

      @@blackdragon6 oh man, which horror film?

    • @k_n_c_y
      @k_n_c_y Před rokem +2

      There was this 90’s movie on Netflix that I adored as a kid about two teen best friend girls who solve a murder mystery…Forgot the title of the film but have been searching the description or key words via Google and pretty much all big streaming platforms and have been running into dead ends for years. I think that shit’s gone fr 😭

    • @carrie2469
      @carrie2469 Před rokem

      @@k_n_c_y that’s so disheartening 😭

    • @blackdragon6
      @blackdragon6 Před rokem

      @@carrie2469 called the Dollhouse I think. It was fucked up man 😆

  • @mcnoneya
    @mcnoneya Před rokem +22

    I heard of a family who downloaded and BOUGHT a movie off Amazon but when Amazon stopped streaming that movie they lost out. So the movie they bought was no longer available to them. I think that’s ridiculous. We spend money on these movies and we expect the internet to hold onto them “forever” so once we pay money to own them we should ALWAYS be able to obtain them. There should be a way to obtain these movies and shows we purchase via streaming services even when they no longer are available on the platform. Maybe download to a hard drive of some sort. Like I downloaded an entire series off apple. What happens when say that series is no longer available. Shouldn’t I the owner still be able to obtain that series even though the service provider no longer carries it. I DID pay for it.
    I’m repeating myself but you get the idea.

  • @moxiec6174
    @moxiec6174 Před rokem +9

    A lot of the shows that got removed or canceled by HBO max were also queer shows some of which had really dedicated fan bases like Tuca & Bertie, Los Espokeys, or Gentleman Jack it feels really sad that these shows are getting canceled and/or removed during such a hateful time for this community imo

  • @GZales2769
    @GZales2769 Před rokem +56

    This is literally something a supervillain would think of

    • @TheMidwestAtheist
      @TheMidwestAtheist Před rokem +16

      Well...the Supervillain, in this case, doesn't have just one mind. It has billions. It's name is Capitalism.

    • @robchuk4136
      @robchuk4136 Před rokem +4

      And his name is Zaslav, which even sounds villainous

    • @herpandemonium
      @herpandemonium Před rokem

      @@robchuk4136 his name does sound villainous 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Imxel21
      @Imxel21 Před rokem +1

      @@TheMidwestAtheistyep the most evil villain of all time

  • @noenya8047
    @noenya8047 Před rokem +6

    Do a video on how calling animation “just for kids” instead of calling as it is a medium cause harm in the animation industry.

  • @marvintnt1820
    @marvintnt1820 Před rokem +11

    Supporting physical media Boutique like Arrow video, Shoutfactory, Kinolorber, Vinegar Syndrome and Criterion helps with restoring old movies that doesn't have a DVD or Blu-ray release.

    • @stephennootens916
      @stephennootens916 Před rokem +1

      I was joust thinking of them. Here he have a dozen or so companies saving older movies from classic Golden Hollywood films like I married a witch and art house films like Breathless to cult low budget films like Angle or Stuff and adult films like Public Affairs. Between all of them a major section of film is being saved and yet it is still a drop in the bucket.

  • @jerlinej3516
    @jerlinej3516 Před rokem +82

    Will this eventually justify piracy? The few people who want it are gonna make their own personal shelf for it. Might as well let them keep it for free.

    • @StylusShade
      @StylusShade Před rokem +4

      "Eventually"?

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 Před rokem +3

      Except the people who create the shows get nothing.

    • @sadie9728
      @sadie9728 Před rokem

      Everyone should pirate. Capitalism is a joke and so are these streaming sites.
      yOu wOuLdN't StEaL a cAr yes, I would, if I could just download one.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Před rokem +1

      Don't feel bad when a multibillion dollar company loses a couple of millions of dollars

    • @alex-rb9dc
      @alex-rb9dc Před rokem +1

      @@fromthehaven94 only the producer and really really high tier professionals get paid on commission. Everyone else gets paid a fixed salary upfront, and they don't lose money based on post-release results.

  • @okdthefmv
    @okdthefmv Před rokem +18

    It's really speaks to the craziness of our economic system that it makes more sense to not release finished works

    • @JayneNicoletti
      @JayneNicoletti Před rokem +2

      It’s messed up to people who worked on these productions under the premise residuals were part of the deal. Some smaller actors rely on that money and could of worked on other productions.

  • @Sun.Shine-
    @Sun.Shine- Před rokem +45

    I fear that one day in the future, you remember a show you watched as a kid, but can't find it anywhere and people would claim that you are delusional & that the show doesn't exist 😢

    • @alejandrocervantes3624
      @alejandrocervantes3624 Před rokem +14

      There already is a HUGE lost media comunity online & on youtube dedicated to that exact same issue lol theyve already found a bunch of stuff this year

    • @Fire-in-the-sky
      @Fire-in-the-sky Před rokem +6

      You could always pirate it...

    • @aswaney7449
      @aswaney7449 Před rokem +2

      IMDB keeps record of the show's existence, just not the actual show.

    • @kant.68
      @kant.68 Před rokem

      A quick google search and call it a day

  • @DMMA0726
    @DMMA0726 Před rokem +8

    I'm not saying don't buy physical just if you rewath remember DVDs wear out. That's the appeal of streaming for some. I was tired of worn out DVDs and broken disc drives after a move.
    Laptops went CD rom free. Digital consoles are cheaper. So even buying physicals puts us at the mercy that those productions continue as do their readers.

  • @steyria2098
    @steyria2098 Před rokem +18

    You guys should do a “cancel your gays” video. This is the trope that “bury your gays” has seemingly evolved into. Tons and tons of lgbtq+ shows are being prematurely cancelled with seemingly no regard to how many viewers, old and new, are watching nor how good the reviews for the shows are. This is conspicuously more apparent in wlw shows than mlm shows.
    Yes, this is about Warrior Nun.
    It’s also about The Owl House and a whole bunch of other shows from this past year.

    • @The1Dragonprincess
      @The1Dragonprincess Před 11 měsíci

      This should also be in regards to the miraculous resurrection of the Nimona film and the cancellation of the live action Lumber Janes.

  • @M.A.C.01
    @M.A.C.01 Před rokem +22

    The fact that Netflix got rid of Hemlock Grove but not Cuties 😭

  • @hayleyroche3259
    @hayleyroche3259 Před rokem +6

    Still not over the cancellation of Santa Clarita Diet, GLOW or Teenage Bounty Hunters

  • @RoninRen
    @RoninRen Před rokem +9

    so just something to think about for a future video essay, narratives that are all about life without the internet, whether it's about living in a world without electricity because of some disaster, or because the plot is set in a pre-internet era,

  • @BlueberryStem
    @BlueberryStem Před rokem +6

    This is so important, really hope you guys make a short form video on this topic for TikTok & reels so hopefully it spreads even more and people can really start considering this.

  • @najhoant
    @najhoant Před rokem +13

    This is why I still buy physical copies of movies and TV series

  • @sircharlesmormont9300
    @sircharlesmormont9300 Před rokem +2

    This is why we need to codify strong rights for libraries and archives to be able to collect, preserve, and disseminate digital information. The bigger IP holders are strongly against this and they have the money to win court battles, but it is in our collective interest to collect, preserve, and disseminate knowledge, regardless of format, for the benefit of future generations. We have professionals and institutions dedicated to doing this work. We simply need to fund them and staff them properly so that institutions can not only work through their massive backlogs, but also afford to continually update preserved works as technology and formats change.

  • @PeterEhik
    @PeterEhik Před rokem +6

    Money is not even a good objective reason to decide whether something is valuable. If you decide what’s a more valuable cultural asset between Fast and furious 9 or “everything everywhere all at once” based on money then we’re in a pretty scary place

  • @thema1998
    @thema1998 Před rokem +26

    Firstly, Netflix removing a show like "Hemlock Grove" was disappointing but not surprising. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney+ and Peacock did the same thing in the future! ☹️
    Secondly, a lot of Latino people don't like the term "Latinx". I'm pretty sure that you guys have been called out for that before in the past! 😅

    • @xgise
      @xgise Před rokem

      The x use in replacement of the o is a whole thing, and while I generally agree with it, I'm with you here, it wasn't necessary to use it. You're talking English, you already have a good gender neutral term: Latin

  • @lynnevetter
    @lynnevetter Před rokem +5

    I hate this issue. We have a collection of over 1200 VHS tapes. Some of these are not on any other type of viewable platform.

  • @hollydillon4613
    @hollydillon4613 Před rokem +11

    I will NEVER forgive Discovery for what they did to Infinity Train

  • @boywithoutaparachute
    @boywithoutaparachute Před rokem +2

    Thats why nothing will ever replace the hard copy. Plus when it comes to streaming in some cases it has to do with paying residuals and licenses running out in others.

  • @pdzombie1906
    @pdzombie1906 Před rokem +3

    Ironically, piracy or a monopoly as Netflix was seems the only way to keep content alive...

  • @navysteel
    @navysteel Před rokem +1

    For those looking for a creative project. Try creating your own tv series on dvd. You may be surprised how much time and effort it takes to gather all the materials. Great chance to gain hands on experience about product design, user interface menus, cover art, and video production.

  • @hopekeeley2122
    @hopekeeley2122 Před rokem +2

    There’s gotta be a way to pirate or torrent or film or convert to a hard copy or otherwise save these shows. If the legal venues discard these fine works it’s up to the people to save it from extinction. If a service completely wipes out a show or film, their rights to it should be forfeited back to the creators to distribute as they please, perhaps put them up on a public venue like CZcams for the publics viewing.
    (Note: for legal reasons I’m not serious wink wink nudge nudge)

  • @PitaBorges
    @PitaBorges Před rokem +1

    "His House" consegue ao mesmo tempo ser um filme lindo e também ser de suspense-terror.

  • @KittiyKyat
    @KittiyKyat Před rokem +3

    One thing that really bothers me about streaming is that the concept of buying a movie has changed. In the past, when I bought a movie, I bought a physical copy that I could keep forever, copy infinitely, and watch on any TV. Now, if you buy a movie on streaming, you only own the right to log in to the platform and watch it whenever you want. It's not as "mine" as it used to be. It could be removed, the platform could go away, and then what would I have? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I download a show on Netflix, it's not saved to my phone or computer, it's saved to the app. I have no right to it without paying continually for access to it. That seems like a scam to me.

    • @xgise
      @xgise Před rokem

      I completely agree with you, but I wouldn't say it's a scam. Netflix's business model is providing access to a service in exchange for money, not providing access to specific content like you would if you were to buy a movie

    • @KittiyKyat
      @KittiyKyat Před rokem

      @@xgise But how else could we legally access the content without Netflix when DVDs and rental places are phased out? It's no longer a luxury or convenience to stream, it's the only way to access most shows and movies.

  • @winterbutterfly8861
    @winterbutterfly8861 Před rokem +2

    Spinning around; Tribes of Europa; The society. These are only 3 shows that were canceled after only one season, that I'm still obsessed with, and The society ended on a mayor plot twist 😭

    • @dineinunes
      @dineinunes Před rokem

      I will never forgive Netflix for cancelling The Society.

    • @winterbutterfly8861
      @winterbutterfly8861 Před rokem +1

      @@dineinunes and we don't even have a book its based on to at least know the ending 🥲

  • @kazza6078
    @kazza6078 Před rokem +3

    Bootlegs of musicals provide a great swrvice in saving the art form since they refuse to record them for the public

  • @donnaherrera7415
    @donnaherrera7415 Před rokem +4

    CHAMBERS!!!! A BIPOC STORY! FROM NETFLIX!!!! I was devastated it wasn't renewed. The Exorcist series!!! Latino actors 😭😭😭😭 Diablero!!! Mexican stories and folklore 😭😭😭

    • @JayneNicoletti
      @JayneNicoletti Před rokem +1

      The Exorcist series was good. Don’t know why it didn’t renew.

  • @PanteraRossa
    @PanteraRossa Před rokem +1

    Question isn't how to stop distributors from demonetizing products that cost more to sell than they'd make, but do more creative voices and filmmakers get to tell their stories today, even if in a few years it is impossible to tell whether people will have access to these works on the platforms that licensed its distribution or through physical media???
    People bring up the iTunes statistics of 10 million plus songs released digitally every year, and over 95% or whatever it is, are NEVER PLAYED.
    Now hosting feature films and series requires hundreds of times the bandwidth and storage of hosting audio files, which explains why this sort of dynamic in a video catalog can cripple a studio's cashflow and make it really difficult to continue to raise production and licensing costs when more and more of their revenue is used to prop up product that doesn't pull its own weight.
    All stores do this. You liquidate inventory in order to make room for more desirable/current stuff.
    I think the cultural benefit from having artists be on streaming platforms, side to side with the industry plants with millions in marketing budgets, still gives them a higher chance of finding their audience than to do it on your independent, personal platform, selling DVDs or CDs from your car or your own website. Not to mention that if independent filmmakers where self-distributing these flops they could be in personal, financial and emotional crisis when they underperform.
    The reality is that there is an acceleration to the production of media, and the fact that these platform democratize distribution giving many new artists and filmmakers opportunities they would have never had in older "brick and mortar" paradigms, is much more positive than the idea that you may lose the chance to watch your shows because they're not popular. You can always DOWNLOAD things you really love on Netflix and fix that problem too!!
    When you go to a concert you don't "unsubscribe" from your favorite artists if they don't play some obscure B-side you really like, you understand there is a finite setlist, and they'll play what the fans respond to the most. Many bands go decades never playing some obscure, fan favorite song live, are they evil for doing that??
    By the way, theatrical releases get cut short all the time. Most movies released theatrically lose money, aren't available everywhere (limited release) and don't stay open past 3-4 weeks. If you are a first time filmmaker, the chances of getting your work in front of 10 million people are MUCH HIGHER on streaming than they will EVER be on theatrical, and the margin of success on theatrical is so astronomically smaller than on streaming that you'll probably lose the studio money and never get to work again.

  • @pokepress
    @pokepress Před rokem +1

    Is there an updated figure for storage costs? While it’s likely that modem movies have more data to be stored, at the same time, 2007 is ages ago in technology terms.

  • @alistertowelie
    @alistertowelie Před rokem +1

    never forget friends from college, which ended on a cliffhanger. fffff netflix fr

  • @ssaliormoon15
    @ssaliormoon15 Před rokem +5

    I also wonder if Tiffany Haddish's recent controversy/scandal may have also played a role in the second cancelation of Tuca and Berti🤔 because when came about I thought oh no this show is going to canceled because of this.

    • @christophersmith3005
      @christophersmith3005 Před rokem +1

      You may be be right. Similarly, several projects that Will Smith was attached to were rescinded due to...well, you know why.

  • @georgeprchal3924
    @georgeprchal3924 Před rokem +1

    That's why you get hard copies, some networks don't even support digital sales. Honestly they're eventually gonna fuck up and fall into the same trap as cable did.

  • @TheReelDealwithTomKonkle

    This is why physical media is so important if I want to watch the movie, Cocoon or The Great Race literally streaming nowhere when I search and see it absolutely nowhere streaming I just pop in my blue gray

  • @alejandracervantes7837
    @alejandracervantes7837 Před rokem +6

    Everytime I worry for a show being cancelled or gone, I would try to find a DVD copy and keep it safe. But then that's impossible to find and of course some dumbass will be greedy a ruin our chances to keep it when sell it for higher price. 😢
    And I know people also pirates it but even that would be against law and also impossible for anyone that doesn't know. Like what happened to KissAnime site when companies found out about it.

    • @xgise
      @xgise Před rokem

      If that's a real worry for you, you should maybe pirate it and burn in yourself.n

  • @amberchristine961
    @amberchristine961 Před rokem +1

    It is driving me nuts that I can’t even buy the movie Amelie in digital format anywhere!!!

  • @skynet4496
    @skynet4496 Před rokem +4

    A lot of reporting and papers challenging the official medical narrative are disappearing too

  • @malvavisco10
    @malvavisco10 Před rokem +3

    I was actually just hoping to watch Santa Inc. (animated show about elves) , but HBO Max has removed it. I know it has controversial themes, but I wish I could watch it and decide for myself. It’s from last year but doesn’t seem to be available at all anymore.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 Před rokem

      Sometime I wonder if certain shows aren't meant to be consumed by viewers so much as they are meant to be analyzed by journalists.

  • @zoechevalier6250
    @zoechevalier6250 Před rokem +2

    Meanwhile Netflix canceling Warrior Nun despite it performing so good number wise despite no promotions along with juggernauts like The Crown and Wednesday

  • @negakirine
    @negakirine Před rokem +3

    This has been happening to new music for decades.

  • @mothralord1709
    @mothralord1709 Před rokem +1

    Infinity train was literally one of their highest performers and ut still got axed and is at risk of disappearing offcially except for pirate sites n torrents

  • @Sauvageonne
    @Sauvageonne Před rokem +1

    That's why I continue bying CDs and Vinyls

  • @NicolasMagaloni
    @NicolasMagaloni Před rokem

    His House is amazing! This makes me so sad

  • @redculturedash8074
    @redculturedash8074 Před rokem

    Do you know why I subscribed to video essay channels like this years ago? Because I can watch this content for free, it’s smarter (in being tailored and summarizable) to me, and I can access it without being at the mercy of companies all the time!

  • @bakerkawesa
    @bakerkawesa Před rokem

    Just found a site from 2005 that requires Macromedia flash player. It is on a university server so that explains how it is still online. The internet is only persistent if multiple distributed copies of content are made as opposed to single point copies.

  • @ianyoung6881
    @ianyoung6881 Před rokem +2

    The mention of “Lost Content” in the title made me think it was about this.
    Into my heart an air that kills
    From yon far country blows:
    What are those blue remembered hills,
    What spires, what farms are those?
    That is the land of lost content,
    I see it shining plain,
    The happy highways where I went
    And cannot come again

  • @SharkWitchMeruna
    @SharkWitchMeruna Před rokem +1

    Video game preservation too! Also yess anime!

  • @crazyklov3
    @crazyklov3 Před rokem

    It all boils down to cost at the end of the day. It's expensive for streaming services to keep content on servers, which only continues to increase.

  • @davidjackson6475
    @davidjackson6475 Před rokem +9

    Sounds like streaming services are going to be doing what Disney did with their classics before Disney+; put them into a "digital vault" and cycle through them every few years.

    • @BereniceAllanPoe
      @BereniceAllanPoe Před rokem +1

      Only to then "restore" them and making them uglier, so the yougest generation won't miss the hand drawn animation. They only know the ugly, less-quality version of the classics now. Have you tried to watch any hand drawn animated movie on Disney+? They look like the bad, tv-cartoon copy of themselves. And I KNOW it's not Mandela effect for sh1t, because I have the old dvds

    • @IKilledEarl
      @IKilledEarl Před rokem +3

      @@BereniceAllanPoe OMG I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought this. I rewatched Bedknobs and Broomsticks a couple years ago and was appalled by how horrible it looked in its "remastered" version. They stole the charm of the original and shoved in awkward computer generated effects that were super obvious and yes, ugly. It made me so sad they did Angela Lansbury dirty like that. Thankfully, I own most of the classics on VHS in their original puffy packaging and a DVD/VHS player that will probably survive the apocalypse.

    • @BereniceAllanPoe
      @BereniceAllanPoe Před rokem +2

      @@IKilledEarl I'm *so jelly* about your dvd-vhs player 🥲 to think that my mother has thrown away my original disney vhs collection... And this was in the early 2000, she didn't have any excuse 🥲

    • @IKilledEarl
      @IKilledEarl Před rokem +2

      @@BereniceAllanPoe Aww! Thats so sad. Some of mine are actually worth a lot of money now to all the nostalgia nuts out there. My mother replaced the VHS tapes with DVDs and gave me the tapes as they came out of the Disney vault. I bought the VHS/DVD player in college back in 2005. I'm glad I've kept it all these years. They're really hard to find now!

    • @CaptainPikeachu
      @CaptainPikeachu Před rokem

      actually no, this is not the same as Disney putting their classics into a vault, these disappeared shows aren’t being put into a “vault”, they’re literally being erased as a tax write off, it means they cannot be shown again. Disney didn’t have their classics as a tax write off, those classics didn’t entirely just get erased

  • @MarGoLuv
    @MarGoLuv Před rokem +1

    Why we mustn’t throw DVDs away. VHS should be converted Digitally.

  • @ProjSHiNKiROU
    @ProjSHiNKiROU Před rokem +4

    Caveat on physical media since I don’t like physical media being romanticized: They won’t survive for 100 years, but digital backups of physical media in open-source file formats can

    • @thema1998
      @thema1998 Před rokem

      You're not wrong. A lot of CD-ROM games, for example, are *literally* rotting away! It's called "disc rot". I wouldn't be surprised if that ever happened to DVDs and other CDs as well. ☹️

  • @TheReelDealwithTomKonkle
    @TheReelDealwithTomKonkle Před rokem +12

    Why not leave them? There is no “shelf space” needed so just leave everything up. Simple

    • @VioletEmerald
      @VioletEmerald Před rokem +9

      Actually, cloud/internet storage is still physical somewhere. You need a large physical server somewhere to store the data...

    • @hippohop6539
      @hippohop6539 Před rokem +5

      Actually there is “shelf space”… everything people stream, is stored somewhere on some physical servers. You just access that space easily and don’t store anything on your personal disk.

    • @TheReelDealwithTomKonkle
      @TheReelDealwithTomKonkle Před rokem +1

      Yes true. But the large server space the company already acquired to be in business is already so large and paid for that the few terrabits of space the average show occupies is an incredibly small part. They are doing it to create artificial “scarcity” or worse to let the work just disappear into an archive. They still have it stored it’s just unavailable. If they license it out of house it can still be removed anytime the license expires.

    • @jordanloux3883
      @jordanloux3883 Před rokem +1

      Tax writeoff

  • @rosariomachado9758
    @rosariomachado9758 Před rokem +1

    Anne with an E. Never forget 😑

  • @snakesandsticks
    @snakesandsticks Před rokem +5

    How’re those ads for owning a piece of Scottish land working out for you? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez9216 Před rokem +1

    Before, content was burned or taped over. Now it's all digital.

  • @suikim9194
    @suikim9194 Před rokem +1

    I pirate everything because i was done with streaming services becoming more expensive and removing content often.

  • @sarahthelibrarian7591
    @sarahthelibrarian7591 Před rokem +1

    It’s time to bring in the librarians! Weeding and archiving is just part of our jobs.

  • @theforgetfulalchemist

    I was so pissed about Westworld I just started that show!

  • @AliFareedMC
    @AliFareedMC Před rokem +3

    You can't lose what you didn't have

  • @alexiabeatriz00
    @alexiabeatriz00 Před rokem +1

    we're just gonna end up w cable and dvds again. let's go. it's time.

  • @NJGuy1973
    @NJGuy1973 Před rokem

    Here's a crazy idea: have the public vote on what media gets erased from existence.

  • @fromthehaven94
    @fromthehaven94 Před rokem

    If anyone is paying attention, virtually none of the programming removed via Warner Bros Discovery CEO's decision making are the reality shows that are the bulk of Discovery Nerworks programming.

  • @SocialLocust
    @SocialLocust Před rokem

    Great. Now I'm in frantic despair.

  • @zainmudassir2964
    @zainmudassir2964 Před rokem +2

    That why should be piracy

  • @alexis_electronic
    @alexis_electronic Před rokem +12

    This is why piracy is a moral necessity. :D

  • @salwaaj1356
    @salwaaj1356 Před rokem +1

    Hemlock

  • @griseldanguyenpham2427

    I believe that the only reason this practice exists is that doing it means extending the streaming services’ revenue.

  • @meb1982
    @meb1982 Před rokem

    Keep VHS DVD and Blu Ray. When VHS went to DVD some movies were not converted. Now dvd/bluray are convrting to digital much are lost. Keep physical media!

  • @scifigrl92
    @scifigrl92 Před rokem

    So why are og doctor who episodes lost

  • @matthewkeating-od6rl
    @matthewkeating-od6rl Před 3 měsíci

    So why didn't they put badwoman on their streaming service? It's just odd.

  • @teenkitsune
    @teenkitsune Před rokem

    Seriously?! Tuca & Bertie was cancelled after the 3rd season? No wonder it ended with such little fanfare compared to its season 2 finale. That's bullshit!

  • @mretie
    @mretie Před rokem

    Netflix should go back to mailing DVDs 📀

  • @eleanormagnuson1410
    @eleanormagnuson1410 Před rokem

    Infinity train 😢😢😢

  • @grey_wolf_tg2235
    @grey_wolf_tg2235 Před rokem

    Well if you can't afford to keep popular streaming content, then get out of the streaming business and make room for someone who can so we don't have to pay for 20 different services to get all we want. Or have the option of a free ad including platform vs. a paid platform so ad companies can support developing artists, if we aren't.
    Have them do surveys with a chance to get a discount? Then you may know exactly what content is appealing to the most people.

  • @motherlandone6300
    @motherlandone6300 Před rokem

    But will people watch it? Television is notorious for this very thing as well. But again who has purposely watched a 1948 Texaco Star Theater starring Milton Berle lately? It’s on CZcams right now.

  • @jrlangdon89
    @jrlangdon89 Před 2 měsíci

    That’s why you should buy physical hello

  • @rzionrnrzfm5925
    @rzionrnrzfm5925 Před rokem

    Regular show warned us this would happen

  • @teddyfurstman1997
    @teddyfurstman1997 Před rokem

    Still Miss Infinity Train Y'all!

  • @partydean17
    @partydean17 Před rokem

    Still on qBittorrent

  • @ty-guy4458
    @ty-guy4458 Před rokem +1

    Physical media and torrents.

  • @XxyGoddam
    @XxyGoddam Před rokem

    well now we can thank pirate services :D most of the stuff is already on pirate sites

  • @Svengali764
    @Svengali764 Před rokem

    If nothing, this will increase piracy and i have to say. Yes. Good.

  • @blackpantsog
    @blackpantsog Před rokem

    33.55