Lucifer easily defeated Dean/Michael in battle. Have you watched the series at all? Lucifer was able to KILL Dean (Michael) with one TOUCH, but they helped him. And in doing so, Lucifer almost completely lost his grace and strength before Jack's grace made him stronger.
@@Sam-c7p He wasn’t. First off: Lucifer fed on Jack’s Grace which gave him a power boost. But even then he outright said that Michael would beat him if he was in Control of the Vessel. Second off: Dean was in Control for the Fight not Michael and he had zero experience or Knowledge on how to access Michael’s powers. If he had given Michael the Control he would have beaten Lucifer
@@TheKhanofKhans Firstly, it was Dean who literally possessed Michael's abilities. He never claimed that Michael would have defeated him if he had commanded the vessel. Secondly, don't tell me about your fantasies, which are not in the series.Nowhere does it say that he didn't have the full power of Michael. And, as shown in the series, he was easily defeated.LUCIFER WAS LITERALLY GOING TO DESTROY DEAN, WHO HAD MICHAEL POWER, WITH A SINGLE TOUCH.And he would have done it if he hadn't been interrupted.Thirdly, Michael, in the form of Adam, was able to open a portal to Purgatory with the help of handcuffs that blocked the Archangel's powers, while Michael in Dean could do nothing and was helpless. Fourth, the original Michael was the first and fought the Darkness at the beginning of time.Fifthly, Lucifer, according to Death, is the best warrior.Sixth, Lucifer is stronger than Michael in Adam's body, since in season 5, in episode 4, Lucifer declared that he had won
Michael mid-high diffs when lucifer took jacks grace he told Sam he didn't need him to become strong anymore dean had no experience with Michaels power and still kept up with lucifer with jacks grace Michael is more experienced in terms of skill and hand to hand combat because while Cass Sam and Michael were in deans head they were all equals in terms of strength speed durability and Michael still no diffed Cass dean and Sam in hand to hand combat.
The reason Lucifer no longer needs Sam is because Crowley perfected Nick's shell, not to mention that Lucifer had already been weakened for several seasons.
Oh, I get this based of the original show lore that was in season 1-5 before it got recon, back when Lucifer couldn’t be killed, Chuck was just a prophet and God was….well God as in the Omnipotent and all knowing creator,rather then Light and twin to the darkness who are avatars of existence’s desire to be something.
Michael ROLFSTOMPS. Even with Jack’s grace Lucifer couldn’t beat Michael
Lucifer easily defeated Dean/Michael in battle. Have you watched the series at all? Lucifer was able to KILL Dean (Michael) with one TOUCH, but they helped him. And in doing so, Lucifer almost completely lost his grace and strength before Jack's grace made him stronger.
@@Sam-c7p He wasn’t. First off: Lucifer fed on Jack’s Grace which gave him a power boost. But even then he outright said that Michael would beat him if he was in Control of the Vessel.
Second off: Dean was in Control for the Fight not Michael and he had zero experience or Knowledge on how to access Michael’s powers. If he had given Michael the Control he would have beaten Lucifer
@@TheKhanofKhans Firstly, it was Dean who literally possessed Michael's abilities. He never claimed that Michael would have defeated him if he had commanded the vessel. Secondly, don't tell me about your fantasies, which are not in the series.Nowhere does it say that he didn't have the full power of Michael. And, as shown in the series, he was easily defeated.LUCIFER WAS LITERALLY GOING TO DESTROY DEAN, WHO HAD MICHAEL POWER, WITH A SINGLE TOUCH.And he would have done it if he hadn't been interrupted.Thirdly, Michael, in the form of Adam, was able to open a portal to Purgatory with the help of handcuffs that blocked the Archangel's powers, while Michael in Dean could do nothing and was helpless. Fourth, the original Michael was the first and fought the Darkness at the beginning of time.Fifthly, Lucifer, according to Death, is the best warrior.Sixth, Lucifer is stronger than Michael in Adam's body, since in season 5, in episode 4, Lucifer declared that he had won
@@TheKhanofKhans At the same time, before Lucifer absorbed Jack's grace, he almost did not have this grace and was as weak as possible
Michael mid-high diffs
when lucifer took jacks grace he told Sam he didn't need him to become strong anymore
dean had no experience with Michaels power and still kept up with lucifer with jacks grace
Michael is more experienced in terms of skill and hand to hand combat because while Cass Sam and Michael were in deans head they were all equals in terms of strength speed durability and Michael still no diffed Cass dean and Sam in hand to hand combat.
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The reason Lucifer no longer needs Sam is because Crowley perfected Nick's shell, not to mention that Lucifer had already been weakened for several seasons.
@@TheMason500and still Sam was a better vessel than Nick
Oh, I get this based of the original show lore that was in season 1-5 before it got recon, back when Lucifer couldn’t be killed, Chuck was just a prophet and God was….well God as in the Omnipotent and all knowing creator,rather then Light and twin to the darkness who are avatars of existence’s desire to be something.
Kripke archangels are absolute this never be compared of the atual seasons
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Nope Cap. Even with Jacks Grace Lucifer couldn’t beat Michael. Michael is the strongest
@@TheKhanofKhansLucifer literally overpowered Dean (with Michael) but died cause he haven't seen that Michael got the Archangel blade from Sam
They nerfed the archangels in the later seasons
So like there’s no strength ?😂 also michael wins
No diff*
wasn't michael the one who beat him and put him in the cage in the first place