Ah, the old Top Gear, when they did test everyday cars that the likes of you and me could afford, and occasionally test a few exotica, like this magnificent Porsche 962.
The Tiff of another era. Somewhat more polite and accommodating. I like the older Tiff who doesn't really give much of a stuff about what people think as he has "been there done that - nothing to prove". Good on ya Tiff. You're a crack up on "LoveCars" :)
That was based on gearing and engine revs alone. They didn't factor in tyre slip. The highest speed ever recorded by a 917 at Le Mans was 362 km/h (224.4 mph): www.mulsannescorner.com/maxspeed.html Corrected for tyre slip, the speeds are pretty much identical. But in any case, those speeds are a lot less important than finishing races and winning championships.
@Mr Calcium Right. It’s funny how people talk as though 362 km/h is somehow not fast. The Jags did up to 389 and that made them the fastest non-turbo cars (in a straight line). They had excellent brakes and acceleration. Reliability was good too. 🙂 From the XJR8 on, they were always a threat and Walkinshaw always had excellent drivers.
top-level sportscar racing goes in boom/bust cycles. it becomes popular, loads of manufacturers enter, big manufacturers spend ever increasing amounts on it, private entries leave, manufacturers who aren't winning begin to leave, only one manufacturer is left (peugeot/mercedes/audi), then the series gets cancelled or becomes an essentially one-make series (almost the entire 2000s). and as porsche has thrown in the towel now.....we're there again.
you are so fucking stupid or just trolling. It was never even popular enough to be considered a "real rival" to Formula 1, as awesome as it was..... The FIA is far bigger than you realize, not everything is a conspiracy you idiot.
in the year befor the rule change (ordered by Bernie) Group C was indeed more popular and attracked more viewers... Bernie forced FIA to push Group C rules that all had to use F1 sourced 3.5l V10... that killed the Mazda rotary, Mercedes V8, Jag V12, Porsche flat 6... the next season Group C was dead
I noticed in 1986/87 that after the success of the TWR Jaguar XJR9 that some of the other manufacturers went to sort tails and rear wheel cover on the rear body works.
Remember, top gear was cancelled because of Low entertainment value, Clarkson understood this when he restarted Top Gear and successfully pumped the show full of entertainment value.
take into mid that a 956 holds the record for the fastest lap on the Nurburg ring. This car is its off spring. then remember a modern day Formula 1 car has never beat the record of 6 min 11.13 seconds set by Stefan Belloff
+Carlos A but now Top Gear is dumbed down to stupid challenges like racing cars against airplanes and trains or Volvos through African jungles, No car enthusiast cares about that kind of nonsense
I do agree, I watch Top Gear but when challenges happen -I tend to change the channel and come back when they are testing a car. Did it use to be more about the cars and less about the entertainment?
By 1989 the 962 was a bit old in the tooth and had run its course. Major manufacturers had surpassed it technologically. Porsche themselves had stopped racing them. Only privateers were running them trying to get the most out of them with whatever tweaks they could find. The 956/962 had done its job winning Le Mans six times in a row from '82 to '87. Would be seven in a row if you include the 936 win in '81.
@@thethirdman225 No the '89 race went to the Sauber-Mercedes-Benz. The 962 did win in the GT category in 1993 though, and it was the last Le Mans race win for the 962/956 a full twelve years after its first. Pretty impressive.
Two real drivers. Two real cars. Much respect.
Ah, the old Top Gear, when they did test everyday cars that the likes of you and me could afford, and occasionally test a few exotica, like this magnificent Porsche 962.
Yeh but who wants to watch tests of a honda civic
+Zac Youngson I would, Tiff will make an Integra dance
The Tiff of another era. Somewhat more polite and accommodating. I like the older Tiff who doesn't really give much of a stuff about what people think as he has "been there done that - nothing to prove". Good on ya Tiff. You're a crack up on "LoveCars" :)
Derek Bell stated at the LeMans 2011 that drivers were hitting 247 mph in the Porsche 917 like it was a Sunday drive! Gotta respect these guys
That was based on gearing and engine revs alone. They didn't factor in tyre slip. The highest speed ever recorded by a 917 at Le Mans was 362 km/h (224.4 mph):
www.mulsannescorner.com/maxspeed.html
Corrected for tyre slip, the speeds are pretty much identical.
But in any case, those speeds are a lot less important than finishing races and winning championships.
@Mr Calcium Right. It’s funny how people talk as though 362 km/h is somehow not fast. The Jags did up to 389 and that made them the fastest non-turbo cars (in a straight line). They had excellent brakes and acceleration. Reliability was good too. 🙂 From the XJR8 on, they were always a threat and Walkinshaw always had excellent drivers.
i reckon that group c racing would have been more popular today than f1 racing if it hadnt have stopped
top-level sportscar racing goes in boom/bust cycles. it becomes popular, loads of manufacturers enter, big manufacturers spend ever increasing amounts on it, private entries leave, manufacturers who aren't winning begin to leave, only one manufacturer is left (peugeot/mercedes/audi), then the series gets cancelled or becomes an essentially one-make series (almost the entire 2000s). and as porsche has thrown in the towel now.....we're there again.
fuck are you talking about dude. it was never even remotely more popular than f1
you are so fucking stupid or just trolling. It was never even popular enough to be considered a "real rival" to Formula 1, as awesome as it was..... The FIA is far bigger than you realize, not everything is a conspiracy you idiot.
in the year befor the rule change (ordered by Bernie) Group C was indeed more popular and attracked more viewers... Bernie forced FIA to push Group C rules that all had to use F1 sourced 3.5l V10... that killed the Mazda rotary, Mercedes V8, Jag V12, Porsche flat 6... the next season Group C was dead
Oh yes!
I see Clarkson popped by to give a thumbs down.
My favorite Porsche 962 GTi.
The ragged limit....very impressive
The quality is just amazing! (and so's the car 😍).
respect tiff
He's got a look of pierce brosnan don't ya think?
Whoa this is the another chassis of the 962 I never seen before
Its as though they're creating the new arena circuit more 20 years early!!
Nice video, big fan of these drivers.
Derek Bell is the shit ! 5 star driver!
I noticed in 1986/87 that after the success of the TWR Jaguar XJR9 that some of the other manufacturers went to sort tails and rear wheel cover on the rear body works.
The Lola T600 got those rear covers in 1981 .
WOW, that slalom was fanatastic!!
5 stars, please more Group C, GTP, IMSA videos!!!!!!!!!
Lookin damn good tiff
I love the backdrop @ 4:30.
Remember, top gear was cancelled because of Low entertainment value, Clarkson understood this when he restarted Top Gear and successfully pumped the show full of entertainment value.
take into mid that a 956 holds the record for the fastest lap on the Nurburg ring. This car is its off spring. then remember a modern day Formula 1 car has never beat the record of 6 min 11.13 seconds set by Stefan Belloff
Modern day F1 has also not ran there in race conditions since the 70s...
They have run cars to try and beat it though
Gabe Kremer BMW-Sauber at least once, but it is very different to do a demo run vs. actual competitive event/race.
as much as I enjoy these old machines, the future is electric: czcams.com/video/mcepG9Twa_8/video.html
Just noticed theyre running the southern circuit, clever me :P
3.19....Does it feel like it unloads in the rear? You get a sort of unloading sensation! Oh the dupe British public lol
that computer, lol
Tiff >> Clarkson
Dont hate TopGear! They have 350 millions of viewers..
3:47 When I saw this, ffs I am young...
holy fuck he was so fast !!
@freedomsoldier187 lol at the lowerstep being faster at times.
Tiff Needellfastest
+Carlos A but now Top Gear is dumbed down to stupid challenges like racing cars against airplanes and trains or Volvos through African jungles, No car enthusiast cares about that kind of nonsense
I do agree, I watch Top Gear but when challenges happen -I tend to change the channel and come back when they are testing a car. Did it use to be more about the cars and less about the entertainment?
Is she still alive
Span off? Lordy...
Clarkson is a clown compared to Tiff
That car looks like an almighty pain in the ass.
By 1989 the 962 was a bit old in the tooth and had run its course. Major manufacturers had surpassed it technologically. Porsche themselves had stopped racing them. Only privateers were running them trying to get the most out of them with whatever tweaks they could find. The 956/962 had done its job winning Le Mans six times in a row from '82 to '87. Would be seven in a row if you include the 936 win in '81.
@@deckard2665 They still won one race as late as 1989.
@@thethirdman225 No the '89 race went to the Sauber-Mercedes-Benz. The 962 did win in the GT category in 1993 though, and it was the last Le Mans race win for the 962/956 a full twelve years after its first. Pretty impressive.
Deckard You’re talking only about Le Mans.
@@thethirdman225 Yes I stated that in the post. Actually it was 1994 that was the last 962 Le Mans victory. It was in GT class not Group C.
Becky >> Tiff