Lions or Browns: Which 0-16 Team Was Worse?

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2023
  • Lions or Browns: Who Was the Worse 0-16 Team? Oly the Detroit Lions and Cleveland Browns have both gone 0-16 in an NFL season. Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping @Manscaped with my link manscaped.com/goodsports !
    #lions #browns #defeated #calvinjohnson #danorlovsky #huejackson #winless #bakermayfield #cleveland #detroit #detroitlions #clevelandbrowns #NFL #NFLNews #Breaking #thatsgoodsports #BrandonPerna #breakingnflnews #manscapedpartner #fathersday
    Subscribe:
    czcams.com/users/thatsgoo...
    Join this channel to get access to perks:
    / @thatsgoodsports
    Benchwarmer Brew:
    bit.ly/3oFe1op
    BenchwarmerBrew Socials:
    Twitter: @BenchwarmerBrew
    / benchwarmerbrew
    MERCH: thats-good-sports-merch.creat...
    Charity: act.alz.org/goto/thatsgoodsports
    Writing Help by Will Keys @GuillermoLlaves
    Patreon Website:
    / thatsgoodsports
  • Sport

Komentáře • 1,2K

  • @thatsgoodsports
    @thatsgoodsports  Před rokem +37

    Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping @Manscaped with my link manscaped.com/goodsports ! #manscapedpartner #fathersday

    • @SteefPip
      @SteefPip Před 9 měsíci +1

      (13:45) That didn't take long.....

    • @Juan2E
      @Juan2E Před 8 měsíci

      @@SteefPipwas finna say 😂

    • @DaMurphyBeat
      @DaMurphyBeat Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@SteefPip😂 I was just about to comment that it's not even 2024 yet, and things already went off the rails for some. I love going back to these older videos and partaking in some hindsight.😂

    • @KennyPowersUrOut
      @KennyPowersUrOut Před 7 měsíci

      Do a vid on the fog bowl or the body bag game.

  • @aramey12
    @aramey12 Před rokem +1843

    Alot of the people are saying lions on this. As a browns fan im not surprised because we couldnt even win on this.

  • @smajet5640
    @smajet5640 Před rokem +2840

    Tbh the 1-15 Browns seemed worse to me than the 0-16 Browns. The win for them seemed like a complete fluke while the 0-16 Browns were close numerous times.

    • @ralph8677
      @ralph8677 Před rokem +370

      Agreed. The 1-15 2016 Browns were worse, they just happened to have a home game on Christmas Eve against an L.A. Chargers team with nothing to play for, & who just wanted to get the game over with & go home for the holiday. If the 2016 Chargers were playing for a playoff spot like the 2017 Chargers were, the 2016 Browns probably would have gone 0-16.

    • @edman813
      @edman813 Před rokem +177

      Josh Lambo is the reason they didn't go 0-36 from 2015-2018, I'm dead serious💀

    • @MDestroyerX
      @MDestroyerX Před rokem +56

      @@edman813 browns are in fact the worst team in any foot ball league they have had 1 good season in the past like 20 years that being 2020 (the cursed year)

    • @MDestroyerX
      @MDestroyerX Před rokem +20

      Browns will/loss from 2000-2022 125/244-1 they averaged 5.6/11.3
      The lions 131-237-2 6.2/10.8
      Putting them at worst from 2000(browns) and second worst (lions)

    • @PhuckYT12
      @PhuckYT12 Před rokem +31

      @@MDestroyerX "Past 40 years"
      Don't overexaggerate. Since 99, yes, they've been bad. Twice to the playoffs and one 10-6 season.
      Past 40 years? Bro, do you even know football history?

  • @db5627
    @db5627 Před rokem +1436

    I have to go with the lions on this, just the fact a hall of fame WR has a no win season under his belt is wild.

    • @timdecoursey287
      @timdecoursey287 Před rokem +79

      But the Browns had Hue Jackson, a Hall of Fame coach.

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr Před rokem +13

      Correction, the Lions went 9-7 in 2010 to a playoff berth. First round exit vs. the Saints

    • @Silverlined_69
      @Silverlined_69 Před rokem +5

      Secret base has a great video about the 08 lions.

    • @Wheelio
      @Wheelio Před rokem +5

      ​@@MarloSoBalJr They went 10-6.

    • @leifopstad2972
      @leifopstad2972 Před rokem +10

      @@MarloSoBalJr in 2011 they went 10-6. 2010 they went 6-10

  • @drayiii980
    @drayiii980 Před rokem +361

    As a Lions fan I wasn't happy when the Browns also went 0-16. That was OUR thing!!!!!

  • @SaltySpark
    @SaltySpark Před rokem +971

    As a born and bred Lions fan, it's absolutely fucking terrible the way Megatron's career ended up. Dude was top 5 all time, no question. He was basically what kept me watching football in that time, and yes, him retiring gave me PTSD flashbacks of Barry. That being said, I don't blame either of them. On the plus side, Calvin has a bunch of weed farms by me now, so that's cool lol

    • @spencertherren6806
      @spencertherren6806 Před rokem +33

      He and Barry are two of the best to ever play the game on offense period. It's sad.😢

    • @RatedRMario21
      @RatedRMario21 Před rokem +29

      On the Browns side, they had future Hall of Fame LT Joe Thomas blocking for schmucks like Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, washed up Jake Delhomme, Colt McCoy and the aforementioned Kizer among others

    • @tylergarrett8066
      @tylergarrett8066 Před rokem +15

      ​@RatedRMario21 That quarterback carousel from 2000-2018 must have been actual hell. Good thing they figured that out right?

    • @lostalone9320
      @lostalone9320 Před rokem +7

      I hear they will be bringing back Colt McCoy if Deshaun goes to jail.

    • @kr3wapollo680
      @kr3wapollo680 Před rokem +1

      @@RatedRMario21 derek anderson was the only decent one and you threw him in with the bums 😔

  • @FrayedQube
    @FrayedQube Před rokem +391

    Missed a great opportunity to mention Dan Campbell was on the 0-16 Lions playing with Calvin Johnson

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 Před rokem +80

      That makes his tenure as their HC feel that much more interesting.

    • @ryandemboski6313
      @ryandemboski6313 Před rokem +47

      he was injured that entire season so he didnt play

    • @TheGoffense8120
      @TheGoffense8120 Před rokem +1

      @@ryandemboski6313 I think he got traded during that season too.

    • @pepesilvia2094
      @pepesilvia2094 Před 9 měsíci

      megatron couldnt even get the lions a dub

    • @rezabeast1722
      @rezabeast1722 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@TheGoffense8120naw he retired that year

  • @wolfiehatesgoogle
    @wolfiehatesgoogle Před rokem +577

    I'm not sure which one is worse, but I laughed much more at the Browns plight. I just felt pity for Detroit.

    • @jakeevans5751
      @jakeevans5751 Před rokem +28

      As a browns fan, I laugh at us too

    • @contentdenied
      @contentdenied Před rokem +17

      @@jakeevans5751 We can either laugh about it or cry about it.
      Sometimes both!

    • @Born_Into_This
      @Born_Into_This Před rokem +4

      Does Matt Millen win the worst GM of all time??

    • @robertbrown380
      @robertbrown380 Před rokem

      @@Born_Into_This the race is only for second place. Millen has lapped the field.

    • @solarhits0411
      @solarhits0411 Před rokem +8

      ⁠@@Born_Into_This as much as i hated Millen I would say Quinn & Patricia was the worst GM/Coach combo. Millen at least tried different coaching philosophies where as Quinn would always go to the “Patriot Way” philosophy that proved to only work with Belichick as GM and Brady as Coach/QB.

  • @SentaiAce
    @SentaiAce Před rokem +139

    I’m a lifelong Browns fan and NE Ohio native. When they were 0-10, we were hoping they’d go 0-16. Never forget WE HAD A PARADE FOR 0-16 and it was packed!!

    • @broizon205
      @broizon205 Před rokem +13

      This parade was a key reason why I believe you were the better 0-16 team because this parade actually forced your organization to make some changes and for a time, it worked, the Lions fans just sat back and whined on the matter, and stuff for them continued to go down the gutter and remain terrible. Definitely happy that you and the rest of the Browns fans were able to make good things happen for a little bit and it shows that when people take action on matters like this, the results for them being positive is a higher likelihood of coming together.

    • @ironpanther2420
      @ironpanther2420 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I remember celebrating Hue Jackson Day on January 31st after that happened.

    • @yvngp00t96
      @yvngp00t96 Před 9 měsíci +10

      The Browns 0-16 was so much funnier because of just how cartoonish the whole thing was. The 0-16 Lions just seem like a bunch of guys desperately trying their hardest to win a game of football but just not being good enough in any way

    • @AP-hv9ll
      @AP-hv9ll Před 8 měsíci

      for being a filthy buckeye, you guys are all right. I remember wanting to bathe in the failure of our 0-16, but everyone around me was all sad and dejected, and begging for a win. I just wanted the world to burn because it wasn't worth saving. Matt Millen was the worst hire in NF-- check that-- organized sports history.

    • @raider1297
      @raider1297 Před 8 měsíci

      Wow how pathetic

  • @logan_page
    @logan_page Před rokem +108

    If you’re asking who had the worst team, Browns. If you’re asking which season was more shameful, Lions. We had freaking Megatron and couldn’t win once.

    • @bradleyhoward9638
      @bradleyhoward9638 Před 10 měsíci +5

      ​​@@TimeBandit2007yeah I know they probably would have gone like O-17

  • @jtyezbick
    @jtyezbick Před rokem +267

    Another thing not mentioned about the '08 Lions...
    The infamous curse of Bobby Layne was cast on the Lions shortly after their 4th championship win in 1957 when their star quarterback, Bobby Layne, was unexpectedly traded in the middle of the 1958 season. On his way out, Layne shouted "the Lions will not win for the next 50 years".
    50 years after his fateful words, the Lions became the first team in NFL history to go 0-16

    • @steel749
      @steel749 Před 10 měsíci +31

      He was traded to the Steelers who in 2008 won the superbowl too.
      Amazing

    • @funkmon
      @funkmon Před 9 měsíci +3

      That's because it's a modern urban legend that was invented in the past decade

    • @irishjet2687
      @irishjet2687 Před 9 měsíci +17

      ​@@funkmonOh, almost certainly, but it's still fun.

    • @AP-hv9ll
      @AP-hv9ll Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@funkmon nah, man, it goes farther back than that. Whether apocryphal or not, it was a thing talked about on Detroit sports radio in the 90's.

  • @TheLinnux1
    @TheLinnux1 Před rokem +65

    Which is worse, winning the “worse team ever” award or having such a losing culture that you can’t even win “the worst team ever” award whilst literally being 0-16.

    • @Crateron1
      @Crateron1 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Haha that's right, those Browns were so bad that they lost they competed in the "awfulness" category and lost, lol.

    • @troglokev
      @troglokev Před 4 měsíci

      The worst is not, so long as you can say the 1976-77 Tampa Bay Buccaneers were worse.

    • @insouciantFox
      @insouciantFox Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@troglokevthey were an expansion team so everyone gives them a pass but my good were they awful

  • @TheBrister
    @TheBrister Před 9 měsíci +62

    Something notable about the lions... They started 6-2 in 2007. Talking about possibly being playoff contenders. From that point until the end of the 2009 season, they went 3-37.

  • @Matt-tk3yk
    @Matt-tk3yk Před rokem +77

    Having an 0-16 season with the second youngest Hof inductee ever is… a feat. Lions fans have gone through a lot.

  • @midlifecrisisincarnate
    @midlifecrisisincarnate Před 5 měsíci +26

    Coming here during week 17 to congratulate both these teams on not only making the playoffs this year, but still having a chance at the top seed in their respective conferences.

  • @stern12akachris32
    @stern12akachris32 Před rokem +96

    Watching Hue Jackson week after week throw his players and coaches under the bus....... You forgot the famous blown trade when the Browns front office forgot to send a completed trade offer into the NFL in time.

    • @detroitandclevelandfan5503
      @detroitandclevelandfan5503 Před rokem +1

      And thank the Lord they didn't. It was actually intentional sabatoge. The dude got fired afterwards. If that trade would have went through, we would have not gotten Nick Chubb.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před rokem +1

      And let's not kid ourselves. The reason why Jackson was allowed to keep his job as long as he did was because he was black. Any other coach wouldn't have been given another game after going 1-31 over 2 seasons.

    • @salamanderonhere
      @salamanderonhere Před rokem +9

      @@Rockhound6165 username checks out

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před rokem

      @@salamanderonhere the hell are you babbling on about.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před rokem +1

      @@salamanderonhere did I say something untrue? Do you honestly believe any other coach would have been allowed to keep his job only winning 1 of 32 games?

  • @shanewex
    @shanewex Před rokem +39

    One interesting fact, Dan Campbell was on the Lions in 2008, but he was on IR.

    • @CBFW_KO
      @CBFW_KO Před 9 měsíci +3

      fueled his drive and ambition to make Detroit a respectable team

    • @mottdropsie
      @mottdropsie Před 8 měsíci +3

      He had 1 catch that year before the injury so it counts

  • @chrisbg99
    @chrisbg99 Před rokem +87

    Man, 2008. Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan were just young up and coming QBs. Tom Brady was still pretty young. Both Mannings were in their peak. Mahomes was in middle school.

    • @14gears55
      @14gears55 Před rokem +3

      I didn’t realize Eli had a “peak”

    • @chrisbg99
      @chrisbg99 Před rokem +2

      @14gears It was smaller peak than Peyton's, but it was there.

    • @RedMo46
      @RedMo46 Před rokem +3

      @@14gears55 you win a chip or two, you had a peak. Thats just how it works

    • @brandedmcgowan9414
      @brandedmcgowan9414 Před rokem +1

      Drew Brees made the Saints contenders for years thus saving and prolonged his career.

    • @raider1297
      @raider1297 Před 8 měsíci

      Brady wasn't young lmao he was a 9 year veteran at that point. He wasn't old but he was not young

  • @sr7312
    @sr7312 Před rokem +56

    I was in boot camp when the regular season ended. My instructor came in one evening and said, "They did it. The Lions lost all of their games."

  • @Joshua-uw7wm
    @Joshua-uw7wm Před rokem +32

    I remember back in the day when people believed it would be impossible for a professional football team to go without a win

    • @grandwazoo870
      @grandwazoo870 Před 9 měsíci

      I thought the same thing! The league is set up for teams to be successful, with a hard salary cap and free agency.

  • @lolwutyoumad
    @lolwutyoumad Před rokem +96

    The Lions as they were legitimately bad, the Browns under Sashi Brown were attempting a 76ers type “process” where they would tank and trade everything for future picks. A team designed to lose won’t be as bad as one that is just bad

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Před rokem +3

      It worked because the Texans collapsed after they traded up to get Deshaun, only for it to be for nothing after they traded back to get him

    • @maxbielawski6745
      @maxbielawski6745 Před rokem

      @@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza to be fair if those browns got deshaun… he would be a bust. Browns would’ve ruined him.

    • @lolwutyoumad
      @lolwutyoumad Před rokem +9

      @@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza the Texans didn’t “collapse”, they had a string of terrible injuries during Watson’s rookie season including Watson himself.
      The Browns are an example why “next year” draft mentality is wrong. They thought 18 had a better QB class so they skipped on both Mahommes and Watson

    • @dshiznit12a
      @dshiznit12a Před rokem

      @@lolwutyoumad yikes

    • @bodhithespoodergen
      @bodhithespoodergen Před rokem

      @@maxbielawski6745 i mean look at him now lol

  • @goalscoringgoon9896
    @goalscoringgoon9896 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Can’t wait for this to be this year‘s or next year’s Super Bowl 😂

  • @user-wf4md3vg1t
    @user-wf4md3vg1t Před 5 měsíci +5

    7 months later and both of these teams are in the playoffs

  • @paulweston8408
    @paulweston8408 Před rokem +19

    As a 56 year old the one thing I can for sure tell you is that both teams would have destroyed the 0-14 (or 0-26) Tampa Bay team!!!
    Best coach comment ever at least
    Reporter's question after a game - "how do you feel about your teams execution?"
    Coach - "I'm all for it!"

  • @frogbark
    @frogbark Před rokem +2

    I was working doing quick detail work for a nice car wash just outside of Detroit. Dante Culpepper came through in his Maserati and got a wash and armor-all on his dash. I drove his car off the wash line and to the side where I armor-all'd his dashboard. I had to ask him how to put it in park lmao. He gave me a $20 dollar tip. I asked him " are they gonna let you start one of these games?" He hadn't played yet this year. He stood up tall and puffed his chest out and said "If they want to win they will." I'll never forget that moment. I remember thinking to myself hmm was a $20 dollar tip for a $15 dollar armor-all dash fair? For sure! But from Dante Culpepper? I didn't know weather to be greatful or think dudes f n cheap. Nowadays I'm greatful for the priceless memories of driving that car and many other athletes and coaches car's 30 ft in a parking lot.

  • @tannervanstaveren2155
    @tannervanstaveren2155 Před rokem +20

    As a Michigander, I can proudly say I did watched the 2008 Detroit Red Wings win the Stanley Cup!!

  • @drampabay1476
    @drampabay1476 Před rokem +91

    I used to feel bad for Cleveland till the Watson deal. Ditching baker (not the best qb but TECHNICALLY the only qb in franchise history with a playoff win), destroying the FA market with that contract, just to take a whole season off for fans that have already seen more than enough of that. I feel for the fans, but Haslem has to be praying Snyder sticks around so Jim isn’t the worst owner in the league.

    • @GetnBrains
      @GetnBrains Před rokem +4

      a owner being deemed the worst owner in the league because he overspends trying to make the team viable is one of the DUMBEST takes in the comment section. i wont feel bad for you and ur team when we stomp u this upcoming season

    • @GundamGokuTV
      @GundamGokuTV Před rokem +2

      Snyder has already agreed to sell the team. He gone.

    • @drampabay1476
      @drampabay1476 Před rokem +17

      @@GetnBrains I’m on your side poor browns fan. You should be angry at Jim not me.

    • @GetnBrains
      @GetnBrains Před rokem +1

      @@drampabay1476 agreed! We fans have gotten so much shit for the Watson deal.. i didnt personally make the damn thing! I aint sayin i wouldnt have.. lol

    • @eddieorfield
      @eddieorfield Před rokem +18

      ​​@@GetnBrains It's not the money spent, it's HOW the money is spent. I was a Browns fan but I am disgusted by how they handle their business. Otto Graham is rolling over in his grave and Jim Brown must be deeply saddened by what his beloved Browns have become.

  • @weregretohio7728
    @weregretohio7728 Před rokem +28

    For some reason, I watched the Browns that season.
    They had so many opportunities to win games... but the level of Browns the Browns pulled was impressive. Capped off by their unsurprising bust WR dropping a pass with his Crisco-covered hands.
    The Lions were so much worse the Browns lose again.

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Před rokem +6

      I looked into this a little bit and holy shit you were not kidding. I counted at least 8 times Kizer threw an awful INT in the endzone to seal a loss. Now imagine trading for him...

  • @gordonfan200
    @gordonfan200 Před rokem +59

    My favorite memory as a packers fan of the 0-16 lions is when they faced the packers week 2. They stormed back from an early 21-3 deficit for a 25-24 lead in the fourth quarter… Only to be losing 48-25 about 7 minutes later.

    • @DepressedPistonsFan0
      @DepressedPistonsFan0 Před 8 měsíci

      I can’t believe I gaslighted my 8 year old self to continue to be a fan of this organization after the 07 season. Happy to have a seemingly good team now but fuck I went through a lot of pain for this team.

  • @anubis1416
    @anubis1416 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Not even 2024 and that Aaron Rodgers comment is a "yikes"

  • @Matthewlaing1395
    @Matthewlaing1395 Před rokem +12

    This is why I love this channel. This would be a discussion you have with your friends at the bar while watching a game. Great job Brandon

  • @WillKnapp18
    @WillKnapp18 Před rokem +17

    Commenting before the video, I'm saying the Lions. There was an article that came out in I think 2009 or 2010 that included a comment from then Lions QB John Kitna. Apparently during training camp when the coaching staff were giving the players the "new" playbook, Kitna looked at the HC and said something like "If we implement this system we won't win a single game."

  • @DrtyALGreen
    @DrtyALGreen Před 9 měsíci +9

    Ouch didn't even take until 2024 for the Rodgers prediction to go bust.😂

  • @WVUer21
    @WVUer21 Před rokem +9

    My Detroit-native cousin moved to Cleveland in 2015, experiencing both imperfect seasons in person. More proof to stay away from him.

  • @lancegulyash204
    @lancegulyash204 Před 4 měsíci +4

    The Packers saw how the Lions defense performed and said "Yes. We need their DC."

  • @tanneraitken3768
    @tanneraitken3768 Před 9 měsíci +4

    13:52 well… no one could have predicted that result

  • @tierrewatt7935
    @tierrewatt7935 Před rokem +9

    As a lions fan, our 0-16 was like a 9 year train ride which we fell off a damn cliff. I bet that the best GM's in the league have a picture of Matt Millen to remind them constantly, how not to run a team.

  • @stanreaper3080
    @stanreaper3080 Před rokem +11

    As a Lions lifer, I appreciate this video. Also, CJ's career wasn't just cut short by Lions' ineptitude, but by Jim Schwartz, who after getting fired by the Lions basically wrote the book as opposing DC on how to beat Megatron - forget about defending the pass, go for the ankles. And then they hoisted that a-hole and carried him out of the stadium. Really was the beginning of the decline of CJ's body and overall dominance, that one game.

  • @Thedominator-tr2su
    @Thedominator-tr2su Před 9 měsíci +4

    13:50 that aged well

  • @paulweston8408
    @paulweston8408 Před rokem +17

    As a lifelong Vikings fan I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone talk about a player/team having a great play/game/win and without even looking at the screen I know I'm about to re-live a moment of horrible Minnesota Viking's history I never wanted to see again!
    Thank you, Brandon, for reminding me that the only team the 0-16 Lions came close to beating was the Vikings.

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger Před 10 měsíci +1

      Didn't they lose to Carolina after the refs missed a blatant facemask on a 2pt tying attempt?

    • @saryphx
      @saryphx Před 9 měsíci

      And to think we won the division that year with Gus Frerotte lol

  • @TimurTripp2
    @TimurTripp2 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Meanwhile neither of these teams was ever blown out by 50 points.

  • @bentorrey12
    @bentorrey12 Před rokem +43

    I think the 0 fer buccaneers were the worst

    • @Jevarohdail
      @Jevarohdail Před rokem +5

      Wasn’t that team bad at everything? Like the Browns were competitive, and the Lions had a good team to the point ESPN analyst were confused at how it went 0-16, but wasn’t the Bucs team just plain bad

    • @pxrays547
      @pxrays547 Před rokem +8

      Yes, 0-14, with most like the worst offense ever (in the modern era).

    • @dylanshort1661
      @dylanshort1661 Před rokem +6

      yeah but they were an expansion team tbf also it was only a 14 game regular season so they aren't qualified for the worst 0-16 team

    • @dylanshort1661
      @dylanshort1661 Před rokem

      ​@@pxrays547 I actually saw a video about this the offense they had the next year was actually worse than the 0-14 teams offense

    • @thatsgoodsports
      @thatsgoodsports  Před rokem +15

      Anyone can lose 14 games

  • @calebmarek
    @calebmarek Před rokem +6

    Many of us never forget about those two points against Minnesota. It's impossible.

  • @Thedominator-tr2su
    @Thedominator-tr2su Před rokem +18

    When the browns went 0-16, as a lions fan it made me so happy to see that another team could be so bad that they didn’t win a game. Just imagine had the chargers beaten them the year before we would’ve had back to back 0-16 seasons

  • @Aezetyr
    @Aezetyr Před rokem +7

    Perna, Dan Campbell was on that 2008 Lions team, FYI. Awesome video BTW, thanks for this one. I remember 2008 a bit foggy. The Red Wings were in the Cup finals so we in Detroit were okay as long as we were Wings fans.

    • @Rodanguirus
      @Rodanguirus Před rokem

      Wings won it all, Pistons went to the ECF, Shock won it all that year...really a great year for Detroit sports in general...just not if you hitched your wagon to the Lions in particular (also true of the '00s as a decade).

  • @denomolous
    @denomolous Před rokem +5

    I live near Tampa and I am surprised, that I am saddened, that the 1976 Buccaneers get left out the the worst team discussions.

  • @mikeclark7026
    @mikeclark7026 Před rokem +6

    This is the best show on CZcams.
    Not That’s Good as a whole. But Balls Deep is fantastic.
    He knows enough about football to be dangerous; but not enough to where he’ll drone on with stuff, and his trademark humor is able to be everywhere on these episodes.

  • @nasis18
    @nasis18 Před 11 měsíci +5

    The Lions couldn't win a game with Megatron. That takes the cake for me.

  • @dedgzus6808
    @dedgzus6808 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Fun Fact: I'm and Eagles fan and my dad is a Browns fan. I was at the Browns 0-16 parade and the Eagles Super Bowl parade that year. Was anyone else at both parades?

  • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
    @SuperSaiyanGuyver Před rokem +5

    The '17 Browns coming so close here and still losing is probably the most Browns thing I've ever seen.

  • @theelike4302
    @theelike4302 Před rokem +11

    As a Bucs fan I really hope Baker works out. We haven't had much luck with first overall picks.

  • @Visionary_Watcher
    @Visionary_Watcher Před rokem +8

    If NFL executives would have actually watched these two teams for 16 games, we wouldn't have moved to a 17 game schedule, we would've regressed to a 14 game schedule

    • @OSIRISREZEKTD
      @OSIRISREZEKTD Před 4 měsíci

      Why?

    • @Visionary_Watcher
      @Visionary_Watcher Před 4 měsíci

      @@OSIRISREZEKTD As a fan of one of these teams it was hopeless near the end. It was bad football week after week after week. By week 13 I knew the team was bad, I wanted the season to be over.

  • @Younima4
    @Younima4 Před rokem +30

    Hue Jackson vs. Matt Milen
    The greatest comparison since Adam Gase and Bobby Petrino

    • @pxrays547
      @pxrays547 Před rokem

      He was comparing the two coaches, in Cleveland Jackson got the most blame, whereas in Detroit, Millen caught the shit and Marinelli avoided the wrath.

  • @dredhead117
    @dredhead117 Před rokem +3

    that "much like the German Kaiser joke..." was gold Perna. Made this history buff fan of yours proud

  • @exterminaiden2703
    @exterminaiden2703 Před rokem +4

    I absolutely love videos like these, as a NFL fan this is just perfect. Please keep it up Perna🙏

  • @timdecoursey287
    @timdecoursey287 Před rokem +10

    I do want to point out that the Lions put Jon Kitna, imo our best QB, on injured reserve that year. I think we would have won one game at least with him.

    • @johnny__topside
      @johnny__topside Před rokem +1

      He definitely would’ve won the Vikings game when Orlovsky stepped out of the end zone

    • @aceofpizza9932
      @aceofpizza9932 Před rokem

      Eh... Naw...

  • @sml2k186
    @sml2k186 Před rokem +6

    As a bengals fan, it’s easily Detroits season. But I still am curious on why Cleveland actually KEPT hue jackson for a few more games until finally firing him

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Před rokem +1

      If the tanking allegations are true, they probably wanted to see how he'd do with an actual roster?
      Or maybe they're stupid.

  • @oddballskull1941
    @oddballskull1941 Před rokem +3

    Nobody talks about the winless Colts from the strike season, I know it's a short season but still remarkable

  • @CaptainCrockpot
    @CaptainCrockpot Před rokem +4

    Strength of schedule tells it like it is. Whoever went 0-16 with the easier schedule was the worse team.

  • @Jevarohdail
    @Jevarohdail Před rokem +6

    My man Brandon, Always coming at you with the Real Questions, Perna.

  • @HeCalledFairCatch
    @HeCalledFairCatch Před rokem +3

    Wonder who the first 0-17 team will be

  • @TheMailmanOfSteel
    @TheMailmanOfSteel Před 10 měsíci +3

    I like the "Lioms" logo, seems about right for that team. I distinctly remember pre-season talk of the team being very competitive after they won all of their pre-season games, which were the only wins all year. Thanks Matt Millen!

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger Před 10 měsíci +1

      What's even more hilarious is that the Browns also went 4-0 preseason during their 0-16 season.

  • @JacobLara
    @JacobLara Před rokem +5

    Haha love it! I approve of your reasoning. I would also throw in the consistent horrible GM jobs for both teams. Lions drafting 3 WR each year and the Browns seemingly drafting #1 QB busts each year.

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic Před rokem +6

    Remembering both teams, I felt like Detroit was the better team. Cleveland had some close games but they also played some bad opponents, as strength of schedule showed, and even the less bad teams were riddled with injuries. Detroit gave up a few blodouts but they were also in a lot of close games if you take away those blowouts.

  • @larryloveless2967
    @larryloveless2967 Před rokem +3

    I recall both these teams well and would call it a tie even after overtime since the bottom line is they were winless. As a long time NFL follower going back to the St. Louis Cardinals in 1960 when they arrived from Chicago the Browns had very good teams in the 1960s.The others under Brian Sipe. Of course similar to the original Washington Senators becoming the Minnesota Twins in 1961 and the Senators becoming an expansion team, the original Cleveland Browns are in Baltimore and these are an expansion Cleveland Browns team. I wish St. Louis had been given an expansion team when Stan Kroenke moved the STL Rams in a similar manner., but an owner was needed anyway. They were well supported and St. Louis was prepared to build even yet another stadium for the STL Rams. It was all about the large TV market of L.A.. I hardly remember the Lions ever having a good team outside of Barry Sanders years . I guess Lions fans must be the best in the league given their support for a team like the old St. Louis Browns of the American League in baseball. That being said, the St. Louis Rams of 2007-2011 must rank among the worst ever for a 5 year period. Owner Stan Kroenke wondered why attendance was dwindling.. I really rnjoyed the XFL BattleHawks this past season in St. Louis. They were exciting.

  • @Tjstev
    @Tjstev Před rokem

    honestly dude the off-season is my fav time of year for your vids you never know what your gonna get. Also very random but i was watching a live of you and i find it so funny me and you discovered greta van fleet the exact same way, i was listening to music in the shower and safari song came on and i thought huh i haven’t heard this zeppelin song, stepped out and had to look. wonder how many others discovered them that way lol

  • @mrwednesdaynight
    @mrwednesdaynight Před 9 měsíci +1

    A notable thing about that Titans game in 08 against the Lions. It was a Thanksgiving game. I ran out of the house to go get something really quick. By the time i got back, the Lions were down 21 nothing and it was still the first quarter.

  • @huchlvr
    @huchlvr Před rokem +3

    Thank you for not naming the Browns the worst team on the day Jim Brown's death was announced.
    RIP my sports God.

  • @bigk8210
    @bigk8210 Před rokem +3

    Just heard. R.I.P Jim Brown. 🏈

  • @gpmom1614
    @gpmom1614 Před rokem

    Great show, Brandon! I'm going to save this show to rewatch for when my team sucks so I can keep it all in perspective. Hopefully, they won't be this bad this year. Thanks for the laughs.

  • @sunlitsonata6853
    @sunlitsonata6853 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Back when both of these teams are playoff bound with reasonable chance to end up in the Super Bowl

  • @FirstNameLastName-vf9hf
    @FirstNameLastName-vf9hf Před rokem +3

    A part of me felt bad for Deshone Kizer. I wish the dude could’ve had another shot somewhere else to prove some worth

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Před rokem

      Well, he certainly wasn't good for us that one time

  • @robynsnest8668
    @robynsnest8668 Před rokem +5

    Lost in the matrix, Lions were 4-0 in preseason and coupled with the improvement the year before, ticket sales and smack talk was at all-time high. Then the season started. It was pathetically bad. Yeah, Browns can't even win this one. And don't forget, Dan "Kneecaps" Campbell was a Tight End on this team too.

    • @TheGibsond10
      @TheGibsond10 Před rokem +1

      The lions won the last game the nfl literally changed the rules to make them lose

    • @TheGibsond10
      @TheGibsond10 Před rokem

      And Dan was on IR smart guy

    • @DeepSubmerge
      @DeepSubmerge Před rokem +1

      Browns also went 4-0 in the preseason but were trending down following a 3 win and then 1 win season so seems like 0-16 was just par for the course.

  • @1travstone
    @1travstone Před 8 měsíci +1

    Lived around Detroit during their winless season, lived in Cleveland during their winless season. Good time had by all.

  • @n3d_ludd379
    @n3d_ludd379 Před rokem

    Outstanding show, thank you.

  • @MrPloppy1
    @MrPloppy1 Před rokem +4

    I don't know which was worse, but the die-hard fans that stick with these 2 teams year after year, through thick and thin, prove they're the GOAT fans in football.
    We deserve back-to-back Browns-Lions Super Bowls with each winning one. You know, so that some of us can experience what it's like to watch our team win it before we die of old fuckin age.

    • @SaltySpark
      @SaltySpark Před rokem

      My team is the Lions, but my back up team is the Titans. The pain. Watching them lose to the Rams in the Superbowl hurt more than the lions not even sniffing the wildcard round.

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 Před rokem +1

      ​​@@SaltySpark the lions I'd feel bad for but there in my division so I enjoy the comedy hours you guys put together n you had that dirty dtackle named suh who stomped on various football opponents which is uncalled for
      Other than those things I would like you guys as a packers fan
      The browns DESERVE HELL for 2 reasons
      1. The beer bottle incident where fans chucked bottles at the opposing team AND THE REFEREES 20 years ago
      2a n 2b Deshaun Watson n Jimmy haslem
      It's debatable which incident is worse n I probably despise them more than everyone else except Seahawks or vikings fans
      The titans I do feel bad for as they are A CLASSY not trashy franchise
      Chill fanbase. Decent stadium just bad luck and honestly that fanbase n Derrick Henry deserves a ring or 2, I know this because I traveled in packers at titans to Nashville

  • @JestingJoker013
    @JestingJoker013 Před rokem +10

    Q: Who does it again first?
    A: Hue Jackson

  • @ohmy...9007
    @ohmy...9007 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Wow i didn't know Calvin Johnson was on that 0-16 lions team. Yal should be grateful that he didn't retire sooner.

  • @devinwasilewski1750
    @devinwasilewski1750 Před rokem +1

    I was actually in 2nd grade when the Lions went 0-16. I remember being excited a year later when the Lions beated the Redskins 19-14 in 2009. When Stafford got drafted in 2009, and played 16 full games in 2011 and went 10-6 that year, that made me happy. The worst game I will never forgot that year for the Lions was the 2013 year against the Bengals at Ford Field when the Lions kicker made a horrible punt, and the Bengals ended up kicking a winning field goal to win 27-24.

  • @darianclark3980
    @darianclark3980 Před rokem +4

    If these 2 teams had to face eachother,
    I'd say the Browns were worse

  • @PizzaHutCEO
    @PizzaHutCEO Před rokem +3

    Pictured: the season Bears fans expect for the Panthers for some reason

  • @huchlvr
    @huchlvr Před rokem +1

    Oh, that playoff game the Browns won was on Steeler's field. That's what it was so big a deal. We won in Pissburgh for the first time in 17 years.

  • @arnavenaganti2621
    @arnavenaganti2621 Před 8 měsíci

    Loved the video!!

  • @matthewbasala1827
    @matthewbasala1827 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Nthaniel hacket amd who on the jets?

  • @AkamexAris1023
    @AkamexAris1023 Před rokem +5

    Being the one team that gave the 1-31 Browns their only W in 2 years will forever haunt my dreams

  • @brandonvickers5089
    @brandonvickers5089 Před rokem

    Thank God Detroit has CZcams coverage worth watching Perna your my favorite

  • @tylermalizia3059
    @tylermalizia3059 Před 3 měsíci +2

    The funny thing is it’s 2024 and we still don’t know if Perna’s take on Hackett and Rodgers was right or wrong😂😭

  • @mosespf
    @mosespf Před rokem +4

    has to be the Lions… didn’t the Browns lose like 6 one possesion games?

    • @lorax8172
      @lorax8172 Před rokem +2

      I'm not sure how many, but I definitely remember watching a few heartbreakers that year (wife is from Cleveland)

  • @robs7163
    @robs7163 Před rokem +7

    As a Packers fan it brings me nothing but pain to know that the guy responsible for that Lions defense is somehow now responsible for ours

    • @SaltySpark
      @SaltySpark Před rokem +1

      As a Lion's fan, I'm truly sorry bro. Best of luck.

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 Před rokem +1

      ​@@SaltySpark he can't be worse than Dom capers who consistently was 0 N 16 BAD at coaching
      We had 3 division championships with A DEAD LAST RANKED defense (there were 5 or 6 years too We're We almost also were bottom 5 or 10 defense under capers

    • @SaltySpark
      @SaltySpark Před rokem

      @@nautgamingnautgaming9949 that's a fair point as well lol

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 Před rokem

      ​@@SaltySpark I will be filling out a petition to name the TRASH DUMP after Dom capers so the kids can remember how TRASH he was at his job

  • @mikestammer9152
    @mikestammer9152 Před rokem

    Very cool off season video idea!

  • @louisskulnik7390
    @louisskulnik7390 Před rokem

    7:22 Ole Matthew “I’m headdin yer way” Cogburn. Great fandom crossover!

  • @ollanius-pius
    @ollanius-pius Před rokem +3

    Both are not so great but a lot of people pull for Detroit. They're just a huge underdog team that people feel sorry for. No one outside of Ohio gives a damn about Cleveland. And I mean no one

    • @Not_Brandino
      @Not_Brandino Před rokem

      As someone from Toledo, Ohio let me tell you.
      No one outside of Cleveland cares about Cleveland lol. No one here likes Cleveland

  • @louisnemzer6801
    @louisnemzer6801 Před rokem +2

    "I'm not even mad, that's amazing" very aptly applied to the combined 1-31 Browns seasons

  • @jj947
    @jj947 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I’m so glad they added a game to the schedule a few years ago so now we can potentially get 0-17 teams

  • @The65chevelle
    @The65chevelle Před 10 měsíci +2

    The 2017 Browns had Spero Dedes call their games almost every week. That makes them worse.

  • @brookestevenson7645
    @brookestevenson7645 Před rokem +2

    Lol a couple accidental Easter eggs in this vid…one of them being your Chris Hanson reference. Before he worked for “Dateline NBC” he was one of our local reporters in Detroit. Also Dan Campbell was on the Lions roster that year. Megatron just recently discussed seeing him again since their playing days.

    • @TheGibsond10
      @TheGibsond10 Před rokem

      Dan was on IR

    • @brookestevenson7645
      @brookestevenson7645 Před rokem

      @@TheGibsond10 I said he was on the roster not the field

    • @TheGibsond10
      @TheGibsond10 Před rokem

      @@brookestevenson7645 the way you said it makes one assume he played for that team

  • @lucase.2546
    @lucase.2546 Před 9 měsíci +1

    “Say the line, Bart!”
    “Orlovsky safety”
    [uproarious cheering]

  • @anthonyjames713
    @anthonyjames713 Před rokem

    Fantastic video 👏👏

  • @jimbo7011
    @jimbo7011 Před rokem

    Damn good episode Brandon

  • @BrandonKellogg22
    @BrandonKellogg22 Před rokem +2

    Jason Hanson was by far the most reliable player on the Detroit Lions of all time. You hated to see him come out because he came out all the time, but everyone knew he was virtually guaranteed to do his job. And he would kick for the Lions for 20 years.