Michelle Kwan - 2005 World Figure Skating Championships - Long Program

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  • @TT-ee4qp
    @TT-ee4qp Před rokem +10

    ■Tara Lipinski said : Michelle Kwan is an idol of mine. One of the best skaters all the time was making me work harder and harder.
    ■Sasha Cohen said : I learned a lot from Michelle's performance when I was young.
    ■Peggy Fleming said : Michelle Kwan is special. She skated with her heart. She taught people how to win and how to lose.
    ■Yuna kim said : Michelle Kwan is my hero. I fall in love with her skating.

  • @jamesk8s1
    @jamesk8s1 Před rokem +2

    I applaud MK for fighting thru this. Regardless of the debate on her choices, she still had a presence that is unique and stunningly all her own.

  • @smc0910
    @smc0910 Před 9 lety +16

    It's amazing how she managed to still skate at this point when she was already injured and in pain since the year before (revealed only by her team during her surgery in 2006).

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před rokem

      Michelle skated with the truly Olympics spirit. ❤

  • @poet2772
    @poet2772 Před 4 lety +4

    Michelle is the Golden Girl of the ice...

  • @cvcfoundation8413
    @cvcfoundation8413 Před 5 lety +11

    Choreography but without the story telling that we're used to seeing from her past performances. I think this was around the time the scoring system had changed and her competitors started catching up so you can tell she was trying to squeeze as much technical content in as possible to collect the points. This obviously hurt the presentation and not the MK we're used to seeing.

    • @alexac3098
      @alexac3098 Před 4 lety +3

      I believe this was her very first skate under the new system. She skated a different version of this routine at nationals a couple months before, but I think they were still using 6.0 judging.

    • @lflagr
      @lflagr Před 2 lety

      @@alexac3098 not to mention she always got the home country boost at nationals that usually disappeared when she went to worlds/olympics lol

    • @Ardit-kq4bt
      @Ardit-kq4bt Před 2 lety +1

      @@alexac3098 lets be honest, technically she was a mediocre skater..she never did in competition any triple triple combo, the russians and japanese were far better than her. Her only advantage was her artistry which was simply gifted

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před 2 lety

      @@lflagr You're sick because you can't take the truth....Michelle kwan was the most important and popular skater in her era. LOL

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před 2 lety +1

      @@Ardit-kq4bt You don't know what you said. Michelle did a lot triple triple combo in her programs, you don't understand Michelle. Michelle finished no lower than 3rd place between 1995 ~ 2004 , her longevity was unreal and hard to close for the other skaters like Tara, Sasha, Sarah....Michelle's artistry and technique were great.

  • @toetjeoetkepel
    @toetjeoetkepel Před 2 lety

    Ik hou van het commentaar van Joan Haanappel. Bedankt voor het posten.

  • @mysticalmargaret6105
    @mysticalmargaret6105 Před 6 lety +8

    Oh dear, I don't like that Michelle has that stockings over the boot thing going on! It looks so untidy compared to her elegant dress! She was at the twilight of her great career. Not her best but not horrible either.

    • @kateholcomb3823
      @kateholcomb3823 Před 5 lety +1

      Margaret Tudor I agree. Still to this day I don’t like tights over the boot

    • @auntiechercher4266
      @auntiechercher4266 Před 2 lety

      I am surprised that she choose to do that, as I believe she and Frank were against that for the most part during her career. It definitely looks better to show the white boots.

    • @annecohen8927
      @annecohen8927 Před 2 lety

      You think it’s because her tights were too long and she didn’t have any way to tuck her tights into the boots, instead of just fitting it over her skates?

  • @erika6651
    @erika6651 Před 2 lety +7

    I can't make up my mind if this or Scheherazade is her worse long. They are both so musically empty compared to everything else she did during her career. She looks so weighed down during the performance, so uninspired. I cannot believe Dean choreographed this! Her short that year was brilliant however!

    • @auntiechercher4266
      @auntiechercher4266 Před 2 lety

      I wasn't crazy about her Scheherazade program and was less than thrilled when it was choose for her Olympic year/season. I liked Bolero better, to be honest.

    • @onetwocue
      @onetwocue Před rokem

      I wish she wouldve stuck with her miraculous mandarin piece and worked on it.

  • @anitabreakone
    @anitabreakone Před 7 lety +3

    She definitely still has it!

  • @piznoctsauo8141
    @piznoctsauo8141 Před 4 lety +7

    This was all over the place, choreography wise.

  • @Danny-wy8kz
    @Danny-wy8kz Před 4 lety +5

    If only she did descent in Qualifying...she could’ve got at least bronze medal there.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před rokem

      And now we knew that Michelle already got hurt for 3 years here........

    • @thesupremediva
      @thesupremediva Před 5 měsíci

      I have to say looking back that the "qualifying" round at Worlds was unbelievably stupid...

  • @TressBraga
    @TressBraga Před 8 lety +22

    I love Michelle dearly! But this program made me cringe. But I guess this is an example of why I've come to appreciate her more because I realize she wasn't perfect. I truly believe that the worst mistake she made in her career was when she let go of Frank Carroll. The 2nd worst mistake was letting go of Lori Nichol. These two were a big part of her success: Frank on technique and Lori on presentation.
    The failure of this program was in part a result of Michelle's denial that the skating rules had changed after Salt Lake. And her failure to accept this fact really annoyed back then. It's as if she was telling herself, "I am skating, I am an institution, I am a brand, and somehow if I stick to my guns, regardless of all the changes, I will come out on top." The judges gave her ample time to adjust to the rules. Moreover, I also believe that she unfortunately surrounded herself with a team of enablers who ultimately just said yes to her desires. And this hurt tremendously.
    All in all, if she had not resisted to all the rule changes and had actually come up with a program that suited the requirements of the new scoring system, I believe she would have easily won a medal here. This was by the way the only time she had not medalled during the last 10 years of her competitive career.

    • @the1001nights
      @the1001nights Před 7 lety +2

      I agree the most part of your comment, so I clicked "agree". It would
      have been very nice if she had adapted to the new scoring system, which
      encouraged spins and a show case of flexibility in spiral sequences Miss.
      Sasha Cohen and Miss.Irina Slutskaya were evaluated highly.
      [ample time to adjust to the rules] in your comment
      "ample time" means 10 to 15 years for some rule changes if you ask me.
      "ample time" for skaters who already had a well streached body to do level 4 spins or spirals.
      But not for Miss Kwan or most of others not enough time.
      Physical flexibility is not a thing you get instantly.
      And was not really a must-have requirement before the new scoring system. I would not surprise if she thought it is not fair to change rules at the near-end of Kwan's successful skating career. She was a long lived queen. Her technique began to get a little old but this rule change was to drastic and "ample time" was not given to her.

    • @vistaprime
      @vistaprime Před 7 lety

      I understand she was earning level 2s on her spins on spirals under the COPs. shocking. What would you have changed about this program exactly, I am curious.

    • @soxnation1000
      @soxnation1000 Před 6 lety +2

      the1001nights I agree. She did not have enough time to adjust her flexibility and techniques. Also, she was 24 years old here, which is pretty old for a figure skater.

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 Před 5 lety +7

      It’s hard to change when you were taught “emphasize artistry” and suddenly the new scoring system gives almost 0 points for artistry.
      Honestly I think COP killed the beauty from this sport. It’s all about jumps now
      .

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 Před 5 lety +5

      P.S. after the2002 Olympics Michelle asked “Now what do I do with my life?” She kept skating because she didn’t have an answer..... not until 2006 when the president offered her s job as an abassador. THAT was when she discovered a new career that she would enjoy. Finding a new path in life is not always easy
      .

  • @johngahagan1215
    @johngahagan1215 Před 3 lety +3

    This was different choreography that was at Nationals in 2005. She increased her difficulty on the jumps, but then fell on the damn Salshow and 2 footed her last Lutz....this routine just did not move Michelle enough to make her want to perform better. Bad choice of music !!!! Seriously, they could have put on any 4 min song and it would have been more effective...

  • @MrTurtledove1981
    @MrTurtledove1981 Před 9 lety +1

    Hmm I've noticed that her sit spin position isn't as "TEXTBOOK" or low as compared to when she was younger--

    • @MrTurtledove1981
      @MrTurtledove1981 Před 9 lety

      It's not about about aging..25 is not that old..Perhaps the classic sit spin didn't garner enough points and it was during this juncture that she was practicing more complicated spins (which perhaps led to her groin injury) to get more points and keep up with the new system..I just love her classic sit spin position back position was superb. As DICK BUTTON would always say THAT WAS FIRST RATE.

    • @vcmattsucr
      @vcmattsucr Před 9 lety +1

      MrTurtledove1981 25 is almost ancient in figure skating terms, especially after your body has been repeatedly doing such things for so long.

    • @ART-re1vq
      @ART-re1vq Před 9 lety

      vcmattsucr LOL 25 is not ancient in figure skating . 27-28 is ancient. Biologically your body is not any different than at age 18.

    • @HowsaBowsaYowsa
      @HowsaBowsaYowsa Před 7 lety +2

      Her spins were genuinely lame and uninspired her whole entire career. She didn't add a single element to her final spin sequence in a decade of skating. That is pretty pathetic.

    • @vcmattsucr
      @vcmattsucr Před 7 lety +7

      So much criticism from people who probably never skated a day in their lives

  • @luckyrob7
    @luckyrob7 Před 2 lety

    I didn't see a layback spin.

  • @mattg.812
    @mattg.812 Před 8 lety +6

    The leggings going on top of the white skates look silly.

    • @sandyvale1038
      @sandyvale1038 Před 8 lety +1

      +Matt G. I think she's trying to look young and girly.

    • @sonyaballo4282
      @sonyaballo4282 Před 7 lety

      Yeah it is hideous but I bet there was a technical reason for it because it was not her style

    • @annecohen8927
      @annecohen8927 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sonyaballo4282 Maybe the skating tight she was wearing was too long to tuck into her boot snd she didn’t want the boots to possibly rub against her feet. I don’t think it was intended to make her look young. Do figure skaters wear socks or not when they put their skates on? I usually wore socks when I put the skates on because I didn’t want the skates to rub against the bridge of my heel, causing blisters.

  • @springchick101
    @springchick101 Před 6 lety +1

    Don't know why you would even comprehend to skate to a piece of music that was so iconically known for Torvill and Deans Olympic gold programme in 84??

    • @Juice_Lover123
      @Juice_Lover123 Před 4 lety +2

      Probably because Christopher Dean himself choreographed this program and felt it was a brilliant idea. I don't know how or why.

  • @calaf1816
    @calaf1816 Před 6 lety +5

    wrong music for her style . music is too heavy and strong . not for the women figure skater .

  • @JoseRuiz-su9jf
    @JoseRuiz-su9jf Před 9 lety +21

    This program is so empty. No transitions or choreography.

    • @earlcohancohan9510
      @earlcohancohan9510 Před 9 lety

      Seriously? !

    • @HeeHaw101
      @HeeHaw101 Před 8 lety +1

      +Jose Ruiz you have no idea how much work was put into that! Are u a figure skater? Do u realize how hard it is to do double axels and turns?

    • @skatefan9495
      @skatefan9495 Před 8 lety +2

      There may not have been many transitions but there was a lot of choreography. They aren't the same thing.

    • @B___T985
      @B___T985 Před 7 lety +4

      Not her best, but far more watchable than most of the ladies skaters today with their grating arm flapping (Radionova) or soul crushing "mime-ography" (Medvedeva).

  • @piznoctsauo8141
    @piznoctsauo8141 Před 5 lety +4

    The choreography doesn't make sense with anything. The costume is gorge, tho'.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před 2 lety

      Sasha didn't win any World medal.....so....

  • @ljhjufzvfvjxrf
    @ljhjufzvfvjxrf Před 9 lety

    2005 Worlds QR: czcams.com/video/Nleskkda2c4/video.html

  • @timothyhh
    @timothyhh Před 4 lety +6

    As much as I love her I wish she had retired after 2003.

    • @auntiechercher4266
      @auntiechercher4266 Před 4 lety +9

      No way, - she skated beautifully at Nationals and Worlds in 2004. If she had retired prior to this, we would have been deprived of seeing her awesome skates that year - 2004!

    • @annecohen8927
      @annecohen8927 Před 2 lety +1

      Shizuka, being the oldest figure skater, retired after winning the 2006 Olympics. Michelle was more popular and well known in the home country. Michelle Kwan didn’t retire because she’s completely unstoppable and her fans didn’t want to see her leave. Michelle believed she would keep on no matter what until her body failed her. She wasn’t a quitter either. Neither was Sasha, a quitter.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před 2 lety

      @@annecohen8927 Shizuka wasn't a good skater until 2004. Shizuka raised her skills and lost weight to jump, Congratulations. However, Michelle's artistry and Sasha's were better than Shizuka.

    • @thesupremediva
      @thesupremediva Před 5 měsíci

      And miss out on Tosca 2004?! Crazy! No way, she just needed rest this season and didn't take it. Would have made a world of difference for 2006 if she'd allowed herself to get healthy.

  • @queenmaoasada8447
    @queenmaoasada8447 Před 8 lety +1

    My favorite Michelle program 'cause Frank (I assume) usually made her skate to boring music! Like what's happening with Gracie now... Even with Michelle's technical skills and artistry, how much Rachmaninoff and Salome can a figure skating fan endure, Man?

    • @sandyvale1038
      @sandyvale1038 Před 8 lety +2

      +Jules Mekler Frank said that 'Michelle was a nightmare about her music', or something to that affect, so highly doubtful that he chose it for her.

    • @infinera06
      @infinera06 Před 7 lety +1

      Sounds like you need Ritalin.

    • @flywings111
      @flywings111 Před 7 lety

      I like Bolero, but Michelle skated to gorgeous, stunning music pieces in her entire career (my favourites are Song of the Black Swan and Scheherazade)

    • @flywings111
      @flywings111 Před 7 lety +2

      ***** It's not easy for a skater to find the music which really fits to the skater's personality and skating style. I don't blame anyone who finds a style and won't change that in her/his entire career. but I also like when a skater is versatile. But there are only a few skaters who can perform completely different styles of music. I liked that Kwan tried abstract, unusual music as well, like Bartók.

    • @ericsingasong
      @ericsingasong Před rokem +1

      Michelle has talked about choosing her music and listening to various pieces time and time again each season. The only piece that Frank really ever picked for her was Salome, because she needed a breakthrough piece when she was younger, to show a more mature side to her skating. That said, I applaud her taking on the challenge of being versatile in her musical choices. Bolero was certainly very different than the likes of Tosca, which was different than Song of the Black Swan, which was different than Aranjuez, which was different than Lyra Angelica. She adapted very well to different styles and genres of music, and that’s one of the many aspects that made her the best skater of her time.

  • @lflagr
    @lflagr Před 5 lety +1

    Why on earth would anyone choose to skate to this music?!? It worked well for Torvill and Dean, but watching one person skate to it is like watching paint dry.

    • @piznoctsauo8141
      @piznoctsauo8141 Před 5 lety +4

      Well, it depends on the choreography and the skater's commitment. Carolina Kostner's "solo" program to Boléro is magnificent.

    • @gardenplots283
      @gardenplots283 Před 2 lety

      Christopher Dean choreographed this program which could explain it.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před rokem

      @@piznoctsauo8141 Sasha Cohen had to skate on crutches or she would fall everywhere on ice....(≧ω≦)/

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před rokem

      Sasha Cohen skated under Michelle's shadow. Sasha's performance was beautiful but boring because she had the only one style which nothing but herself. 🤣🤪

  • @Ernie1978
    @Ernie1978 Před rokem +1

    There were good bits but it was boring and, indeed, felt long. God bless, Michelle. Irina won with the better performance.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před rokem

      😅😅😅
      Unfortunately, Michelle fell here, so congratulations Irina won the title. 💋

  • @sandyvale1038
    @sandyvale1038 Před 8 lety +2

    And this is the woman who deemed herself the USA's best hope for Gold in Torino, but lest we forget 'the thought of medals never crossed her mind' and she just wanted to let her heart sing. She was at 100% in 1998 and 2002. For the Olympics. Didn't win and in fact was **given** Sasha's Bronze in 2002 since she couldn't go home with nothing. How utterly and absolutely generous of her to keep her promise to give up 'her' spot if she wasn't at 100% in Torino. How generous and thoughtful of her. And now we are absolutely honored to hear her and see her at every skating event and treated to her opinions, which are as valuable as the Gold Medal she never won, and her glorious presence. The 'Kwan Kool Aid' is still flowing' and the well will never run dry.

    • @TopherReacts
      @TopherReacts Před 8 lety +1

      You are so Dumb and so so Not important.. Please don't ever leave your house. The World is Better without you. It's funny, you can Google Michelle Kwan's name and right next to it you'll see legend!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @sandyvale1038
      @sandyvale1038 Před 8 lety

      +Topher Warren And you can google Kwan's name and see America's Biggest Loser and it's nothing to do with weight:) I'm quite important thank you, and Kwan most assuredly thinks she is. And as far as dumb? That actually means unable to speak and I see that the Kwan defenders such as you are unable to defend what has been said so they as usual resort to name calling and insults. You are no different. Oh, google away on Kwan after taking off the rose colored glasses and laying off the kool aid and you'll see the truth behind the spin. And Kwan's spins sucked dirt next to the great skaters. Little pun there :)
      She hung on forever and ever and ever. Bear in mind she did **not** even medal here. She did **not** win Olympic Gold. And she was handed a whole lot of bling (Sasha's Bronze in 2002 just an example) that she didn't earn and everyone knows it. Tanya Harding is a legend as well. Think on that for a bit.
      Now I have deigned to reply to someone who writes like a little teenage bully on facebook.

    • @skatefan9495
      @skatefan9495 Před 8 lety +4

      She could well have won gold in Torino, the way the other top ladies skated. Shizuka, although she skated very well, only did 5 triples. When Michelle only did 5 triples it was considered a failure. Sasha and Irina both had meltdowns. And it wasn't a matter of being 100% or whatever. She was injured and eventually needed surgery. Michelle was the face of US Figure skating for over 10 year. She had 5 World titles and 9 National championships. There isn't a country in the world that wouldn't have put her on their Olympic team in 2006.

    • @sandyvale1038
      @sandyvale1038 Před 8 lety +2

      No way, she sleazed herself in. And that little 'audition' was an attempt to help her get up to speed and she showed off big time. That injury was hardly the reason she **lost** as in l o s t Olympic Gold twice. Tara skated her program in severe pain but Kwan is such a little whiny wimp that when she had an owie the world had to know. Kwan hadn't the right to petition and it was actually cheating according to the rules, but Kwan made her own rules and accepted medals she absolutely didn't deserve. A desperate move from a woman who couldn't win when at 100%, not with the big girls. It was made clear by **experts** as in people who know the sport, the competition, the scoring system that Kwan didn't stand a chance in Torino unless the other skaters skated on their knees and elbows. She went to further line her pockets and suck up attention, air time, and she couldn't just leave. Oh no, she had to have a press conference where she was all dressed in black and sniveling. A pity party, one of many for Michelle "it's not about the Gold, yeah right" Kwan. She actually said that before her plane left LA the thought of medals never crossed her mind. Interesting in that the goal is to win medals in the Olympics. And we have two (more) Gold medals thanks to the Olympic level courage and spirit of two awesome skaters who left Kwan in the dust. Kwan was gifted the Bronze in 2002, that should have been Sasha's. But actually, throwing her that bone and seeing her grinless face on the podium makes it almost worth it. Almost. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and this is mine, backed up by people who don't drink the kool aid. I'm very happy that her career ended this way, she deserved no better. I suspect that Michelle Kwan had absolutely no intention of ever "competing" in Torino, and yet took away another skater's dream for reasons that had nothing whatsoever to do with the sport. That injury is known to take a long time to heal, and she knew that. No, this was all about me me me Michelle Kwan. And to accept kudos for 'giving up her spot'? Despicable. She owed (owes) the US and Emily Hughes an apology but that isn't the way she rolls. You may or may not have noticed that Michelle Kwan supported that nasty ugly decision to let Ashley Wagner take Mirai Nagasu's well earned as in **earned** spot on the Sochi team. And she was the only one who spoke out, go figure.
      And now she's busy supporting another of her own kind, corrupt to the core.

    • @skatefan9495
      @skatefan9495 Před 7 lety +5

      Do you feel the same about Nancy Kerrigan, who "took" Kwan's spot at the '94 Olympics?

  • @fjn219
    @fjn219 Před 7 lety +3

    This has to be her WORST long program, ever. Such a disgrace to compare it with Lyra Angelica or Taj Mahal

    • @USA-qm2bk
      @USA-qm2bk Před 3 lety

      95 worlds long program

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před 2 lety

      So what ? The new COP....waiting for you.

  • @GaryWh-js5vk
    @GaryWh-js5vk Před 7 lety +1

    Bad music. It makes the skater rush.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před rokem

      So many years, you changed your name again and again to slander Michelle.
      Shame on you. 😜

  • @piznoctsauo8141
    @piznoctsauo8141 Před 4 lety

    3:09 This (real) shallow and wobbly "spiral" forced up "to rack points" put all Sasha-haters to shame.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před 2 lety

      Sasha fell everywhere on the ice....that's totally deserved to shame. Spiral...Sasha fell, spin....Sasha fell, jumps....Sasha fell, skating....Sasha fell. OMG! LOL.

  • @sonyaballo4282
    @sonyaballo4282 Před 7 lety +5

    She should have retired in 2004 on top instead of making an ass of herself in 2005 and 2006. I hear she was even thinking about coming back in 2010 for Vancouver. Can you imagine this crap against Yuna Kim's level of skill. How arrogant and desperate for a gold medal must she have been to even contemplate that.

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 Před 5 lety +2

      Every Olympian wants to earn a gold medal, but even Kwan said “Will I let lack of gold ruin my life? No I will pursue success in other careers,” and went on to evoke an abassador for the U.S. (When was the last time you were an Olympian or ambassador?). Crickets chirping
      .

    • @electrictroy2010
      @electrictroy2010 Před 5 lety +2

      P.S. after the2002 Olympics Michelle asked “Now what do I do with my life?” She kept skating because she didn’t have an answer..... not until 2006 when the president offered her s job as an abassador. THAT was when she discovered a new career that she would enjoy. Finding a new path in life is not always easy
      .

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před 2 lety

      Michelle kwan is Yuna's idol. Yuna inspired by Michelle. So lovely.

    • @TT-ee4qp
      @TT-ee4qp Před rokem +1

      @@electrictroy2010 So many years, you changed your name again and again to slander Michelle. 🤪 Shame on you. 🤪

    • @thesupremediva
      @thesupremediva Před 5 měsíci

      She was injured and needed rest. Kwan circa 2004 (even half healthy) would have mopped the floor with the entire field at the 2006 Olympics. MK never had real plans to come back in 2010. But you know who did try? Sasha!