I am so glad everything came together and I was able to bring the CBF1000 to Wales. What about you? Would you tackle this job yourself after seeing it done? Would you get a Healtech Thunderbox? Let me know! If you have any questions please leave them below, preferably as a separate comment as they're easier to find later :)
Hi and thanks for sharing your expérience. I’ve also experienced a stator failure two times in 65.000km with my cbf Mk1(2006). First time at 42.000km, I got it rewound by a professional and it worked fine for 23.000km. Recently It burned up again (65.000km) so I fitted an electrosport stator. But I’m not really satisfied with it ! Voltage at low rpm is really bad (11.5V) measured at the the three phases of the coil coming from the stator. Honda original used to deliver 19V at each phase at idle. I’ve also fitted a Chinese one which was more performant with 14.5V on the three phases. I wrote electrosport for that issue and they explained me that “ A stator which is wound to be powerful at idle will not be as efficient at cruising speed. Our stator is wound to be most efficient at a higher RPM, so while it lacks at lower RPM once you raise RPM it will exceed OEM.” the diameter of their stator is a little bit smaller (112 vs 115). It is supposed to prevent alternator from over heating as I’m not very convinced by that and believe that 11.5V will jot charge the battery when stuck in city traffic. I don’t know if I have to trust this brand or to go looking for an original stator
42000km is almost exactly where my first one has failed too! I looked in to rewinding, but time and cost in Ireland meant that just buying the easiest available new one was easiest! To be honest I took the first available stator which happened to be the electrosport stator, that explanation also makes sense to me to be honest, I'd actually be happier with it producing less heat at idle as I don't spend much time in traffic, and filter through it when I can. I suppose it makes sense to pick a stator for your needs. But I'd also be concerned with will it keep the battery charged.
Thanks for posting these helpful videos. I have just, on Friday, got a CBF 1000, AN 08 model with 28k miles. These videos are great. I live in Wales and can do without getting stuck amidst the local hills. Cheers.
Little tip for the battery connections. A little piece of doubled over cable tie tucked in under the nut makes it so much easier. It lifts the nut enough to get a catch on it 👍 Great video, best regards
It was more the angle kept making the slidey bit fall out...which was frustrating especially combined with me being absolutely knackered :D I'll try that next time it's out tho and report back :) Thanks :)
Pain in the hoop when this happens to try figure out why it actually failed, I think it’s actually a Honda common fault across the board. Not sure on the broken fingers but it’ll give you a good nip on the finger tips for sure 😂😂😂 Great vid as always dude 👍🏻
Yeah it is, they're known for failing on Hondas, no one was surprised in the garage when it went :D Haha hey better to warn someone of broken fingers then they might listen :P I actually know someone who did break his little finger too :P Thanks!
I’m with you man, I’m not an electrical man either hahah. Install didn’t look bad and glad you take the bike to Wales. You are the def of a youtube mechanic hahaha
I CAN do it, I just don't want to :P Nah changing stators is honestly pretty easy it's fine! Haha over here that's used as an insult :D I am a mechanical engineer so I'm not completely bumbling around in the dark :P :D I know that's not how you meant it tho worry not :)
Great vid and I love the fact you take a common sense approach to mending your bike, its a breath of fresh air. keep up the good work and more srad vids would be much appreciated lol
Ah I'd be more particular if it was a fancy bike, just have to keep it running eh :) Thanks I'll try :) Oh they'll come back eventually, it's just running well at the moment 😂😂
Hej brother nice video! I had the same thing happening to me 2 nights ago. Luckily I am a member to onroad-services so they helped out and got me home in 1 piece. New stator ordered and will throw that in as soon as it comes in with the mail. Will combine that with oil-change too; will be on the road soon enough!
Thanks! Ah sorry to hear that, it sucks but is easy to fix :) That is very good news, I might eventually join one. I was advised by a lot of people and mechanics to also swap the battery as running it down can fry it, might be worth looking in to too :)
Have replaced a few stators over the years. One job I am comfortable doing. The Healtech Thunderbox looks like a great idea. Might get one for the Griso. Stator should be fine and last a bit longer than Previous one.
It's a grand job to do in fairness :) It's absolutely brilliant man, I'd highly recommend trying one! Just makes linking on any new electronics easy peasy too. Hopefully, but the cooling is a known design flaw with the cbf1000, so I wont hold my breath!
Hi GB, thanks for part 2. I have a couple of questions. Did you need to drain the engine oil to do this job? Also would you be able to give a costing for the replacement stator? Useful video as ever. Cheers :)
No problemo :) Technically I should have to make sure it's clean, but my stator wasn't too burnt so I said I'd let me filter do its job. But as a rule no you don't have to, you'll spill a tiny amount opening the cover but just top up afterwards and you'll be grand. Yes, this one was 230 euro + the battery was about 300 or so. I could have ordered a cheaper one but I just took the first available. Thanks :)
Ah I would have always enjoyed it, on the Aprilia too or even the Magna, it just would have been less comfortable :D Tomen y Mur it was called I think!!
@@TheGorillaBiker for sure it’s just great to be able to get out and enjoy the ride, whatever bike we’re on. Thanks. I’ll look it up. Heading to Wales in May.
I did Over 30,000 kms on my ZZR600 and only had to replace the regulator/rectifier. I assume the original stator was still in the bike at almost 80,000km’s. Kawasaki are the best though. 😉💚🏍💨
Oooooof but my regulator/rectifier was fine....so maybe Honda is truly the champion :P Says me....who currently had 3 different manufacturers on the road :D Good mileage either way really :)
Turbo's are goodness! Love the chair/workbench, that's something I would do. I would have totally knocked off the plastic container of bits sitting on the CBF which would have been promptly followed by hours lost looking for shit that rolled under some other motorbike in the garage. That is just how I roll....😂 You did it wrong, just in case you were wondering....LOL...great job looking forward to vids of Whales. I love my USB chargers when I'm on the road a must now days. Clips look awesome, my fav was that skinny road in the forest. That looked awesome! 14.5 is just fine a volt meter on the bike is cool but yeah, so you know your fucked great, your still fucked. OC: That new stator will last the rest of the time you own the bike. I hope my stator last longer, I've got almost 21k on the ZX10.
Turbos are delicious. Haha you need things near you, it just makes sense eh :P Haha you see I am so large I have had to learn to move really carefully or I break things, so I generally knock those containers only 50% of the time now hahaha. I know, should have used the reverse double twist method :'( Thanks bud, it's an amazing country full of tasty roads!! It's my first ever USB charger but it's so easy fit I'll be doing it again, so handy!! That skinny road was awesome :) Haha exactly my thoughts, like oh good I see it's dying......I'm still generally far from home :D Well I know 15 minutes earlier now :P Hahah you know the secrets :P Ah Kawasaki seems to have designed cooling them better, I think you'll be ok :)
Hi Did the new stator work good? My cbf1000 stator broke now to, so i orderd the same that you put in. I hope it´s good :D btw i bought my cbf1000 in sweden after i found you on youtube, it had 18000 km when i bought it in april this year.
Never ever done a stator GB maybe just lick my XJR has 40 clicks on it but I don't know if that was ever done ,but it looks a reasonably straight forward job to change from you have shown .Like to have a more in depth look at that thunder box though . Good one Saludos .
It might never even need to be done on the XJR you'd never know :) It's a grand job to do to be fair :) There's honestly nothing more in depth to look at, it connects direct to the battery and you plug stuff in to it, it handles the rest! Thanks!
Replaced stator and rectifier last week from Electrex world uk by local mechanic.Went for a 3hr drive Sunday morning,all good.Tried to start up bike Sunday evening then batery was dead. Charged battery over night then bike started straight up.🙈
Glad you managed to get it sorted in time for your trip, have you managed to do a voltage reading at tickover when the bike is hot, and the fan not running, I’d be interested to know, as a comparison with my CBF, I’m at about 12.3v, hope the trip was a good one, the clip looks like you picked some decent roads.
Yeah I'll try to remember to do that when I'm home, 12.3V is mad low though, it shouldn't be that low anyway!! It was indeed, we had a brilliant weekend :)
Thanks for the video's about this subject! I've just removed the stator from mine CBF aswell after watching your video👌 I want to order the electro sport aswell, how is it holding up right now after 3 months?
Not at all! So far it's holding up perfect, it's done about 4000 miles so not a super long time but it's been extremely hot here and I've had no issues. So far so good!! :)
Hey, loving the vids you make things nice and straightforward. Did you have to remove the Topbox rail and side panel or can it be accessed without having to do this?
Thanks! Glad they're useful :) You don't have to, you could get in at it to unplug without it, think I mentioned it that I just did it to show everyone where the reg/rect was too :)
Hi.! Thanks for sharing. My local Honda workshop replaced the stator for me last year. It was expensive, so next time I think I will do it on my own. What did you use to seal the stator cover?
It's worthwhile learning how to do yourself, even just to get you back on the road quickly :) I used standard RTV(room temperature vulcanising) silicone/gasket maker. It's all the same stuff.
Hi mate. Thanks for the vid. I replaced mine based to this but voltage seems bit low when i connect the battery. Any idea what vac should stator be putting out?
@@TheGorillaBiker thanks. Mine shows about 10vac and around 15vdc when disconnected from battery. Once batt is connected than voltage drops to below 13vdc
@@beluil as I know 15 climbing to over 30 when you do your tests with the r/r unplugged should be fine, that's why I just check across the battery terminals first as it's easy and can tell you if the system is ok fairly quick
I am so glad everything came together and I was able to bring the CBF1000 to Wales. What about you? Would you tackle this job yourself after seeing it done? Would you get a Healtech Thunderbox?
Let me know! If you have any questions please leave them below, preferably as a separate comment as they're easier to find later :)
Hi and thanks for sharing your expérience. I’ve also experienced a stator failure two times in 65.000km with my cbf Mk1(2006).
First time at 42.000km, I got it rewound by a professional and it worked fine for 23.000km. Recently It burned up again (65.000km) so I fitted an electrosport stator. But I’m not really satisfied with it ! Voltage at low rpm is really bad (11.5V) measured at the the three phases of the coil coming from the stator. Honda original used to deliver 19V at each phase at idle. I’ve also fitted a Chinese one which was more performant with 14.5V on the three phases. I wrote electrosport for that issue and they explained me that “ A stator which is wound to be powerful at idle will not be as efficient at cruising speed. Our stator is wound to be most efficient at a higher RPM, so while it lacks at lower RPM once you raise RPM it will exceed OEM.” the diameter of their stator is a little bit smaller (112 vs 115). It is supposed to prevent alternator from over heating as I’m not very convinced by that and believe that 11.5V will jot charge the battery when stuck in city traffic. I don’t know if I have to trust this brand or to go looking for an original stator
42000km is almost exactly where my first one has failed too! I looked in to rewinding, but time and cost in Ireland meant that just buying the easiest available new one was easiest!
To be honest I took the first available stator which happened to be the electrosport stator, that explanation also makes sense to me to be honest, I'd actually be happier with it producing less heat at idle as I don't spend much time in traffic, and filter through it when I can. I suppose it makes sense to pick a stator for your needs.
But I'd also be concerned with will it keep the battery charged.
Thanks for posting these helpful videos. I have just, on Friday, got a CBF 1000, AN 08 model with 28k miles. These videos are great. I live in Wales and can do without getting stuck amidst the local hills. Cheers.
Happy they're useful!! Never knew if they would be :D Nice, congrats and best of luck with it!! Haha Wales is an awesome spot for a spin!
@@TheGorillaBiker Cheers. Great videos too.
@@dezmondwhitney1208 Thanks!
Little tip for the battery connections. A little piece of doubled over cable tie tucked in under the nut makes it so much easier. It lifts the nut enough to get a catch on it 👍
Great video, best regards
It was more the angle kept making the slidey bit fall out...which was frustrating especially combined with me being absolutely knackered :D I'll try that next time it's out tho and report back :)
Thanks :)
Pain in the hoop when this happens to try figure out why it actually failed, I think it’s actually a Honda common fault across the board. Not sure on the broken fingers but it’ll give you a good nip on the finger tips for sure 😂😂😂
Great vid as always dude 👍🏻
Yeah it is, they're known for failing on Hondas, no one was surprised in the garage when it went :D Haha hey better to warn someone of broken fingers then they might listen :P I actually know someone who did break his little finger too :P
Thanks!
Very much looking forward to watching your Wales trip... and hearing the "news" 🙂
I reckon that you will not find out how long it'll last 🙂
I suppose I should start editing it so :P Haha no idea what you're talking about :P ;)
I’m with you man, I’m not an electrical man either hahah. Install didn’t look bad and glad you take the bike to Wales. You are the def of a youtube mechanic hahaha
I CAN do it, I just don't want to :P Nah changing stators is honestly pretty easy it's fine! Haha over here that's used as an insult :D I am a mechanical engineer so I'm not completely bumbling around in the dark :P :D I know that's not how you meant it tho worry not :)
Great vid and I love the fact you take a common sense approach to mending your bike, its a breath of fresh air. keep up the good work and more srad vids would be much appreciated lol
Ah I'd be more particular if it was a fancy bike, just have to keep it running eh :)
Thanks I'll try :) Oh they'll come back eventually, it's just running well at the moment 😂😂
Hej brother nice video!
I had the same thing happening to me 2 nights ago.
Luckily I am a member to onroad-services so they helped out and got me home in 1 piece.
New stator ordered and will throw that in as soon as it comes in with the mail.
Will combine that with oil-change too; will be on the road soon enough!
Thanks!
Ah sorry to hear that, it sucks but is easy to fix :)
That is very good news, I might eventually join one.
I was advised by a lot of people and mechanics to also swap the battery as running it down can fry it, might be worth looking in to too :)
Thanks very much for your Brilliant videos.
Glad you found them useful! Thanks for watching!
That thunderbox looks interesting 🤔 love the idea of easily removing stuff, another great vid. Will check out your Wales trip!!!
I'm absolutely delighted with it tbh, and I could wire in 4 more things, each socket can take 16A. Thanks :)
Have replaced a few stators over the years. One job I am comfortable doing.
The Healtech Thunderbox looks like a great idea. Might get one for the Griso.
Stator should be fine and last a bit longer than
Previous one.
It's a grand job to do in fairness :)
It's absolutely brilliant man, I'd highly recommend trying one! Just makes linking on any new electronics easy peasy too.
Hopefully, but the cooling is a known design flaw with the cbf1000, so I wont hold my breath!
Hi GB, thanks for part 2. I have a couple of questions. Did you need to drain the engine oil to do this job? Also would you be able to give a costing for the replacement stator? Useful video as ever. Cheers :)
No problemo :) Technically I should have to make sure it's clean, but my stator wasn't too burnt so I said I'd let me filter do its job.
But as a rule no you don't have to, you'll spill a tiny amount opening the cover but just top up afterwards and you'll be grand.
Yes, this one was 230 euro + the battery was about 300 or so. I could have ordered a cheaper one but I just took the first available.
Thanks :)
@@TheGorillaBiker That's useful to know when my time comes :) thanks
No hassle at all :)
Glad you got the bike fixed so you could enjoy your trip to Wales. Looking forward to those videos. Where was that castle thing?
Ah I would have always enjoyed it, on the Aprilia too or even the Magna, it just would have been less comfortable :D
Tomen y Mur it was called I think!!
@@TheGorillaBiker for sure it’s just great to be able to get out and enjoy the ride, whatever bike we’re on.
Thanks. I’ll look it up. Heading to Wales in May.
That it is :)
Ah yes I remember :) You'll.have a blast the roads there are incredible
super!you id amazing recording,buddy,💪
Thanks!
As it happens, I'm also fitting a thunderbox today on my cbf. Great minds. Cheers!
Ah nice!! Space for it is at a premium but it's well worth squeezing it in :)
I did Over 30,000 kms on my ZZR600 and only had to replace the regulator/rectifier. I assume the original stator was still in the bike at almost 80,000km’s. Kawasaki are the best though. 😉💚🏍💨
Oooooof but my regulator/rectifier was fine....so maybe Honda is truly the champion :P Says me....who currently had 3 different manufacturers on the road :D Good mileage either way really :)
@@TheGorillaBiker Mine was red❤️😉
Turbo's are goodness! Love the chair/workbench, that's something I would do. I would have totally knocked off the plastic container of bits sitting on the CBF which would have been promptly followed by hours lost looking for shit that rolled under some other motorbike in the garage. That is just how I roll....😂 You did it wrong, just in case you were wondering....LOL...great job looking forward to vids of Whales. I love my USB chargers when I'm on the road a must now days. Clips look awesome, my fav was that skinny road in the forest. That looked awesome! 14.5 is just fine a volt meter on the bike is cool but yeah, so you know your fucked great, your still fucked. OC: That new stator will last the rest of the time you own the bike. I hope my stator last longer, I've got almost 21k on the ZX10.
Turbos are delicious. Haha you need things near you, it just makes sense eh :P Haha you see I am so large I have had to learn to move really carefully or I break things, so I generally knock those containers only 50% of the time now hahaha.
I know, should have used the reverse double twist method :'( Thanks bud, it's an amazing country full of tasty roads!!
It's my first ever USB charger but it's so easy fit I'll be doing it again, so handy!! That skinny road was awesome :)
Haha exactly my thoughts, like oh good I see it's dying......I'm still generally far from home :D Well I know 15 minutes earlier now :P
Hahah you know the secrets :P Ah Kawasaki seems to have designed cooling them better, I think you'll be ok :)
Hi
Did the new stator work good? My cbf1000 stator broke now to, so i orderd the same that you put in. I hope it´s good :D
btw i bought my cbf1000 in sweden after i found you on youtube, it had 18000 km when i bought it in april this year.
It's done nearly 7000km now with no issues so yes seems good! :)
Ah very good I hope you're enjoying your one as much as I enjoy mine :)
Well done mate.
Thanks bud :)
Never ever done a stator GB maybe just lick my XJR has 40 clicks on it but I don't know if that was ever done ,but it looks a reasonably straight forward job to change from you have shown .Like to have a more in depth look at that thunder box though . Good one Saludos .
It might never even need to be done on the XJR you'd never know :) It's a grand job to do to be fair :) There's honestly nothing more in depth to look at, it connects direct to the battery and you plug stuff in to it, it handles the rest! Thanks!
Would u say its a millage thing that the stator goes bad or age part . My bike is 2007 with 8k miles
It depends, mileage seems to be a factor but also heat is what kills them, so city riding will probably kill them a lot faster than open road riding.
Replaced stator and rectifier last week from Electrex world uk by local mechanic.Went for a 3hr drive Sunday morning,all good.Tried to start up bike Sunday evening then batery was dead. Charged battery over night then bike started straight up.🙈
That could be that the battery is goosed though if it wasn't changed as well. That's why I swapped mine out with the stator.
@@TheGorillaBiker for sure,ordered a new battery there yesterday. Good luck on the trip. Cant wait to see how you get in👍
Ah very good, I hope that sorts it! I've been and am back already, there's a few clips later in the video :)
Glad you managed to get it sorted in time for your trip, have you managed to do a voltage reading at tickover when the bike is hot, and the fan not running, I’d be interested to know, as a comparison with my CBF, I’m at about 12.3v, hope the trip was a good one, the clip looks like you picked some decent roads.
Yeah I'll try to remember to do that when I'm home, 12.3V is mad low though, it shouldn't be that low anyway!! It was indeed, we had a brilliant weekend :)
Thanks for the video's about this subject! I've just removed the stator from mine CBF aswell after watching your video👌 I want to order the electro sport aswell, how is it holding up right now after 3 months?
Not at all! So far it's holding up perfect, it's done about 4000 miles so not a super long time but it's been extremely hot here and I've had no issues. So far so good!! :)
@@TheGorillaBiker thanks for the reply!
@@rick6738 no bother :)
Hey, loving the vids you make things nice and straightforward. Did you have to remove the Topbox rail and side panel or can it be accessed without having to do this?
Thanks! Glad they're useful :)
You don't have to, you could get in at it to unplug without it, think I mentioned it that I just did it to show everyone where the reg/rect was too :)
Hi.! Thanks for sharing. My local Honda workshop replaced the stator for me last year. It was expensive, so next time I think I will do it on my own. What did you use to seal the stator cover?
It's worthwhile learning how to do yourself, even just to get you back on the road quickly :) I used standard RTV(room temperature vulcanising) silicone/gasket maker. It's all the same stuff.
@@TheGorillaBiker Thank you.!! Love your videos. Going to replace my front brake pads next week after seeing you video. Thanks.!
No hassle! Thanks, glad you like them :) Ah very good! Best of luck with your CBF :)
Could have sworn I seen you in Dublin on Sunday
I was riding home Sunday evening from the ferry, so you might have!
Hi mate. Thanks for the vid. I replaced mine based to this but voltage seems bit low when i connect the battery. Any idea what vac should stator be putting out?
No bother. As far as I remember it's supposed to be 30 at idle. I generally also just check off the battery too as it's a bit easier to manage!.
@@TheGorillaBiker thanks. Mine shows about 10vac and around 15vdc when disconnected from battery. Once batt is connected than voltage drops to below 13vdc
@@beluil did you run the test unplugged from the r/r? You have to do that or it can mess up the results
@@beluil as I know 15 climbing to over 30 when you do your tests with the r/r unplugged should be fine, that's why I just check across the battery terminals first as it's easy and can tell you if the system is ok fairly quick
@@TheGorillaBiker unplugged unfortunately. 1 year warranty so sending it back