Warlock Multiclass Tier Ranking in D&D 5e

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  • @scandelsavage
    @scandelsavage Před rokem +185

    If you want to be the strangest character at your table; play as a fairy, be a warlock with a sprite familiar and a swarm ranger with a pixie swarm. You get to roll up to any situation with your fey pose

    • @sanojo2551
      @sanojo2551 Před rokem +30

      I did a take on this that was a fairy princess and her Patron was her fairy godmother

    • @1manApocalypse_CP
      @1manApocalypse_CP Před 11 měsíci +6

      Every other one is your body double, which is the real PC? They'll never know. xD

  • @FrankiePeanuts
    @FrankiePeanuts Před rokem +384

    I like the idea of an Artillerist/Warlock with Pact of the Chain having their Imp carrying their cannon as sort of a flying turret.

    • @fatgumthegoat
      @fatgumthegoat Před rokem +44

      they basically didn't talk about not taking hexblade and pact of the blade at all I think their biases show way more this video than most of the other ones

    • @jimglenn6972
      @jimglenn6972 Před rokem +30

      I’m sorry but it seems like the Dudes only like the Pact of the Blade. I think it is the least interesting Pact. The Chain and the Tome are great but it seems like they don’t exists here 😢

    • @voicetest6019
      @voicetest6019 Před rokem +8

      I saw a video elsewhere that talked about getting two levels of any warlock, but I guess fiend would be good for THP.
      Concept is to use those two pact slots primarily for cannon generation.
      Don't get Eldritch Blast as a warlock spell, but do grab Agonizing Blast. You can then get EB via the Artificer-only magic item All-Purpose-Tool.
      Get Blade Ward as second warlock cantrip.
      Cast EB using high INT for the to-hit, then add your at least +1 CHA per bolt.
      So if you're level 11(9 arti/2 warlock), you're doing 3x1d10+1(min) EB and then a 3d8+1d8(arcane firearm) force from the ballista.
      And at that point you also have the ability to detonate the cannon, replacing it with pact slots, in which case that spell becomes 3d8 force(+1d8 from arcane firearm) with a 20ft radius as an action, which you can fly into position with an imp.

    • @MrDavidKord
      @MrDavidKord Před rokem +3

      Or just giving your imp a cannon 😋

    • @peterriverajr6899
      @peterriverajr6899 Před rokem

      That's a great idea

  • @flaminmonkey02
    @flaminmonkey02 Před rokem +173

    For Warlock vs Cleric worship, the Cleric deity is your big boss, your warlock patron is your manager. You could easily have overlap between Life/Light Domains + Celestial, or Trickery + Archfey.

    • @phantom31017
      @phantom31017 Před rokem +15

      I had a Kythri Tiefling Fathomless Warlock who was so devout, that he accidentally became a Tempest Cleric. He was worshiping The Devourer from Eberron. Great character.

    • @fearthepiggaming2998
      @fearthepiggaming2998 Před rokem +7

      I had a Cleric Warlock
      He was a grave domain cleric pact of the undying warlock multi
      His patrons were actually the spirits of his ancestors and his deity was the Raven Queen who his family considers to be their patron god.

    • @JohnKlekamp
      @JohnKlekamp Před rokem +2

      I’m so happy 😁 😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

    • @Dramatic_Gaming
      @Dramatic_Gaming Před rokem +10

      To paraphrase an old meme: Gods are just patrons with a good marketing department.

    • @the_Royal_Crow
      @the_Royal_Crow Před rokem +7

      I love the idea of a devil and a deity that have been fucking with each other for centuries just picking a mortal and both trying to pull them to their side as a sort of competition.

  • @markr8259
    @markr8259 Před rokem +83

    One of the best parts of this series is watching them come into a new class with a grade already in mind, then coming up with cool new combos on the fly and struggling to justify raising that grade.

  • @dracone4370
    @dracone4370 Před rokem +100

    I mentioned this in the Paladin multiclassing list, but the Celestial Warlock and just about any Paladin subclass synergize surprisingly well.

    • @mellowtron1166
      @mellowtron1166 Před rokem +8

      Yes! I could see the Oaths of Devotion and redemption working great with the Celestial warlock!

    • @dracone4370
      @dracone4370 Před rokem +3

      @@mellowtron1166 and you can flavor the pacts however you want, they can tie into your character's backstory or say something about the being they made a pact with. Pact of the Blade could say you patron is a Celestial warrior of kind, Pact of the Tome could say your patron is a celestial archivist of some kind, Pact of the Chain could be your patron wants to keep an eye on you for whatever reason, and those are just the examples I can think of off the top of my head.

    • @TheJulioToboso
      @TheJulioToboso Před rokem +11

      Also great combinations:
      - Undead + Oathbreaker (I call this one “Barbosa”)
      - Ancients + Genie (The Primordial)
      - Conquest + Fathomless (Namor)
      - Crown + Fiend (Hellraiser, Knight of Asmodeus)
      - Great Old One + Vengeance (Return Of The Fallen)
      - Undead + Vengeance (Horror Movie Monster)
      - Archfey + Crown (The Green Knight)
      - Devotion + Fiend/GOO (The Cultist)
      - Glory + Hexblade (The Faustian Deal / Soul for Fame)
      - Redemption + Undying (The Second Chance)
      - Watchers + GOO (Venom)
      - Celestial + Watcher (Guardian of the Galaxy)
      I could keep going

    • @mardshima2070
      @mardshima2070 Před rokem +5

      @@TheJulioToboso Undead + Vengeance, literally Revendread Slayer / Avendread Savior from Yugioh.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 Před rokem +2

      @@mardshima2070 That's a deep cut from Yugimans :)

  • @twicedeadmage
    @twicedeadmage Před rokem +266

    Finally, Warlock my beloved

    • @lloydlineske2642
      @lloydlineske2642 Před rokem +3

      Indeed. Warlock and Bard are my favorites. And when you combine them 🤯

    • @JSA501stNormandy
      @JSA501stNormandy Před rokem +1

      I agree I've been looking forward to this

    • @iTzLagz1995
      @iTzLagz1995 Před 8 měsíci

      Eldritch Blast go Burr ❤

  • @tristansutton2956
    @tristansutton2956 Před rokem +91

    I was expecting the Sorcerer video, but I love the warlock one too!

    • @DungeonDudes
      @DungeonDudes  Před rokem +94

      We had a scheduling mishap. It will be out soon.

    • @Lcngopher
      @Lcngopher Před rokem +8

      @@DungeonDudesoops😂

    • @deadmanmouse2463
      @deadmanmouse2463 Před rokem +7

      Lol cool, I was also looking forward to the sorcerer video.

    • @fatgumthegoat
      @fatgumthegoat Před rokem +7

      @@DungeonDudes not a bad thing, but this video showed a definite bias to hexblade. you guys barely talked about any other subclass for anything but barbarian, and you never even mentioned any pact except blade. not a big deal, just wanted to let you guys know

  • @flyxan1041
    @flyxan1041 Před rokem +111

    Draconic sorcerers can be paired with either the Celestial (as Bahamut resides on Mt. Celestia, one of his subordinates can be the patron) or the Fiend (in that case, you pick one of Tiamat's lackeys). Undead works too, if the patron is a powerful drakolich.

    • @odinulveson9101
      @odinulveson9101 Před rokem

      Yeah but unlike bloodline, gifts abd clerics deity worships. A warlocks pact are VERY serious, you cant break the contracts easly. Sure magic in the bloodline you cant get rid of easly but theres no higher power forcing you to abide to a pact, contract

    • @MVCx_xB
      @MVCx_xB Před rokem +10

      @@odinulveson9101 yes you can lol. most famous conceptual warlocks go against their pact after getting their main benefits rather easily. there are just consequences of making an enemy of your patron. spawn is one example, he made a deal with a devil to be sent back and was on the condition he'd kill for malboga, which he doesn't and as a result gets hunted by demons and demon hunters. once the patron gives the warlock their powers, the patron cannot take those powers back any more than an angry employer can take their previous checks to your salary back - unlike a cleric, whose power derives directly from their god, in which a god simply stops empowering them until they get their shit together. the lead rules designer when asked about this said "the warlock does not have to be on good terms with their pact broker. they made a magical transaction, and now the warlock has power.", which is a big difference compared to a sorcerer who's power is just their own with no strings attached and a cleric whose power is 100% derived from a continuous supply from their god.

    • @fishraposo7192
      @fishraposo7192 Před rokem +2

      ​@@MVCx_xBin theory, you can't gain any more warlock levels if you break your pact, unless you get a new patron, but that's up to the dm lol

    • @spatha08
      @spatha08 Před rokem +6

      ​@@fishraposo7192that is false. There are no rules on how to deal with a warlock breaking it's pact.

    • @fishraposo7192
      @fishraposo7192 Před rokem

      @@spatha08 and that's why it's up to the DM. Did you even read my whole comment? Lol

  • @flamefyr
    @flamefyr Před rokem +38

    My favorite idea from this is the Fiend Lock with a Barbarian dip! If you go Berzerker, it could just be your patron taking over and not caring if you live so long as their desire is met!

    • @warrenwiley5656
      @warrenwiley5656 Před rokem +6

      As they were discribing the Warlock/Barbarian with a Fiend Patron, I was getting instant Elric of Melnibone vibes. Temp HP, Pact weapon...
      "Blood & Souls for Arioch !!!"

  • @joshpool1137
    @joshpool1137 Před rokem +207

    I wonder what build idea Colby will come up with for the unoptimized choice

    • @mage4423
      @mage4423 Před rokem +4

      BUT it will always be cool

    • @Kingmaster64
      @Kingmaster64 Před rokem +20

      Ends up with bladesinger version 5 :D

    • @nicomaas9319
      @nicomaas9319 Před rokem +8

      By suggestion of colby, i'm playing loxodon star druid with (lvl1) dao genie pact magic with crusher feat; and its lots of fun!

    • @aidandunne5978
      @aidandunne5978 Před rokem +3

      I feel like it'll be one of the Pact of the Blade non-hexbade options. A barbalock using Armor of Agathys which upcasts that for damage? Maybe a zealot barbarian fiend pact as a yin-yang thing?

    • @aaronwillems8519
      @aaronwillems8519 Před rokem +3

      @@aidandunne5978 a zealot is just fanatically religious. could be yin-yang, could be double down devotion to the patron. You start the build as a fanatic worshiper of said being/fiend/celestial, and your devotion pays off and they notice you and decide to become your patron and grant you a pack.

  • @corymorse4271
    @corymorse4271 Před rokem +32

    3 levels of bard is fantastic. College of Eloquence gives so many options for making your warlock spells hit harder from Mind Sliver to bard dice cutting from saves.

    • @goodgulfgas
      @goodgulfgas Před rokem +3

      people always dismiss the bard as a dip. It's a great dip.

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega Před rokem +3

      @@goodgulfgas Two levels was my answer. One is kind of meh, but two gives you Jack of All Trades and oh boy is that good on a Warlock, especially if you are Mask of Many Faces infiltrator guy. You can get by in almost any situation. Three is probably better still for the subclass, but two is still very powerful.

    • @boangherrazvan3977
      @boangherrazvan3977 Před 5 měsíci +1

      People get to overly invested that if you multiclass you will not be as strong .
      Correction you wont have higher level spells but the combos you get are better .
      My favorite was a lw 6 eloquence bad/ lw 7-14 fire genie warlock.
      Start with lw1 bard - then lw7 warlock - then lw6 bard - then rest warlock
      -(Face/Infiltration)- Have actor feat + mask of many faces + misty visions to be high class illusionist and manipulator + eloquence bard + expertise in Deception and perception ( Rank S)
      -(Scouting )- Pact of the chain imp to scout situation + high perception from expertise (Rank A)
      ---(Utility)---Even you your skills are not in History or arcane or religion you do have useful skills (Comp Languages, Detect magic, Identify) And jack of all trades for a little boost (Rank B)
      -(Dps)- Fireball for low lw crowds(Slots from bard and Warlock) + Concentrated damage from Eldritch blast and summon aberration while flying (Rank A)
      -(Control)- Class has good combo ,Unsettling Words + Silvery barbs + Hold person/ Raulothim's Psychic Lance to almost guarantee a success on a boss. (Rank A)
      -(Survivability)- You are not a tank but you do have Armor of agahtis + fly from genie + Misty step to avoid damage (Rank B)
      -(Support)- Class does not have good support but you can give healing potions if if party has goodbeRry to imp for easy heals for dropped players and bardic inspiration (Rank C)

    • @destroyerinazuma96
      @destroyerinazuma96 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@LupineShadowOmegaJoAT also works on Counterspell checks. That's +2 at level 9, and a SAD Cha build bound to have a +4 already. You Counterspell level 7 spells with 50/50 odds.

  • @brisketbill
    @brisketbill Před rokem +46

    Wizard 2 level dip is a hidden gem that was missed here. Any multiclass will delay spell progression for a warlock, but a small dip into wizard can round out the defensive/utility options. Shield, absorb elements, silvery barbs, etc don’t need Int and can be the difference between losing concentration on a big warlock spell or not without “wasting” 1 of the 2 warlock spells slots. Yes a sorcerer can use any of these spells too, but they can’t learn them all without big level investment because sorcerers know so few spells.
    Other spells like sleep and magic missile upscale very well. Arcane recovery recharges some slots on a short rest and will get more spell slots over an adventure than other casting classes. Any wizard subclass can work but war magic and bladesinger give good and cheap defensive options even for non-melee builds

    • @benjaminholcomb9478
      @benjaminholcomb9478 Před rokem +4

      Oooo, strong argument indeed

    • @farrex0
      @farrex0 Před rokem +10

      Plus, with the dip, you get the ability to learn new spells and rituals. You could have a familiar, without having to have pact of the chain. You get three more cantrips and six spells with just one level. With two levels of wizard, you get any subclass and 8 spells known, To have 8 spells known in warlock you need 7 levels.
      Also, I cant stress how good war magic is for this. A warlock can do without having to use an spell a round, so you get defensive options for free without having to use your spell slots.
      But also, most people think that Portent is OP.... Imagine any multiclass, where you could just have portent. I think, wizard often is overlooked as a multiclass option, because of intelligence, but just with two levels, you get a lot.
      Sure having to dip into intelligence sucks, but you could still have great stats. With point buy and a +2/+1 race, you could have 16 charisma, 16 constitution, 14 dexterity and 13 intelligence.... Every other ability but one, would be an 8, which is not ideal but it is not that bad either.

    • @fireguardianx
      @fireguardianx Před rokem +3

      @@farrex0 Could also go 16 cha, 14 con/dex, 14 int then leave str at 8 and put wis at 10, done.

    • @brisketbill
      @brisketbill Před rokem +2

      @@farrex0 Completely agree, Portent, Chronal Shift, and/or silvery barbs are all great ways to ensure a big save or suck spell works (warlocks only have two big spell slots so they need to make them count right?).
      Being able to swap out prepared spells on a long rest is another huge advantage for the wizard in order to cycle in all the utility 1st level spells out there.

    • @Ahglock
      @Ahglock Před rokem +1

      Yeah the spell access is always useful arcane recovery is nice for one more spell and some of the sub class features are solid. A war mages arcane deflections limit of only cantrips doesn't really hit a warlock the same way. The +2 to AC is pretty weak since its for the attack but the +4 to a save will probably cover all a warlocks concentration needs.

  • @TrickyVic13
    @TrickyVic13 Před rokem +56

    it really feels like sorcerer and warlock synergize more with each other than with the classes alone
    Like, the late levels of warlock just aren’t worth it compared to grabbing sorcerer levels, and that’s not even worth it compared to just warlock 2/sorcerer 18
    also, shoutout to my favorite multiclass name, sorlockadin
    it’s an abomination and it’s my son and I love it very much

    • @allenfortenberry9924
      @allenfortenberry9924 Před rokem +5

      That just sounds like a creature from Star Wars

    • @Halinspark
      @Halinspark Před rokem +7

      5e is best played by either going full minmax munchkin abomination, or mixing the craziest shit together to see what new shenanigans we can get banned from "civilized" tables. I want my character to end up immortalized in a greentext, not the next Lord of the Rings descendant.

    • @TsorovanZero
      @TsorovanZero Před rokem +1

      @@Halinspark This is the way.

    • @saltypork101
      @saltypork101 Před rokem +6

      I'm a firm believer that as the evil variant of a class, all Warlock multiclass names should start with "wa-": waladin, warcerer, etc.
      They should also all have zig zag mustaches, and upside down letters on their hats.

    • @destroyerinazuma96
      @destroyerinazuma96 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@saltypork101"Waaaaaaagh!!"

  • @keziickfirelight7822
    @keziickfirelight7822 Před rokem +18

    I love how well the barblock can adapt to a bunch of different combat and social interactions. Easily my favorite off-meta build!

  • @MrAthens25
    @MrAthens25 Před rokem +44

    Hexblade Warlock is funny on the Monk. Short rest Shield spell, invocation for Mage Armor, and Hexblade’s Curse adds Proficiency Bonus damage to damage rolls - which scales with your total level, not single class level.
    Also, using Dedicated Weapon lets you take your non-heavy Pact of the Blade weapon and make it a monk weapon.

    • @peterriverajr6899
      @peterriverajr6899 Před rokem +5

      Not to mention if you take pact of the blade and take the thirsting blade invocation you can get 6 attacks per round

    • @hoid4121
      @hoid4121 Před rokem

      @@peterriverajr6899how are you doing 6 attacks per round I can only count 5 at max for monk/warlock

    • @peterriverajr6899
      @peterriverajr6899 Před rokem

      @@hoid4121 thristing blade you attack twice per attack action. Monks attack twice that 4. Plus flurry of blows is 6

    • @hoid4121
      @hoid4121 Před rokem +5

      @@peterriverajr6899 you can’t stack extra attack and thirsting blade as per the multi-classing rules

    • @CallenExile
      @CallenExile Před rokem

      ​@@peterriverajr6899Thirsting Blade does not stack with Extra Attack, and even if it did it would add 1, not 2 attacks for a maximum of 5 with Flurry of Blows.

  • @antimatters6283
    @antimatters6283 Před rokem +6

    One thing these videos do is showcase the *stunning number of combinations* and ideas. It is great to see the Dudes fired up and tossing around character concepts and builds like this.

  • @jimanderson7316
    @jimanderson7316 Před rokem +20

    Just built a Sorlock - Aberrant Mind/Fathomless is a really cool combo for a weird sea-monster/Cthulhu connected character.

    • @Cappybara33
      @Cappybara33 Před rokem +8

      Sounds perfect for someone with an Aboleth patron!

    • @sirarlandis5127
      @sirarlandis5127 Před rokem

      Hey, I'm in the process of building one following the previous video, would you agree to share what you did ? 🙏

  • @muditjohar5323
    @muditjohar5323 Před rokem +6

    Love all the thinking you guys did with part of the blade instead of just thinking about hexblade

  • @tec006
    @tec006 Před rokem +7

    I love playing sorcerer, and every campaign my DMs have mentioned “have you thought about multiclassing with warlock?” both for mechanical and RP reasons. I’d love to see an in depth Sorlock video from you guys like you mentioned in this one

  • @weasel_in_a_tophat
    @weasel_in_a_tophat Před rokem +23

    Ok, so hear me out:
    Fey Warlock with 2 levels of Trickery domain Cleric.
    Be a gnome, take the feat fade away.
    Take the repelling blast invocation.
    By level 8, you can: set up a doppelganger image of yourself, turn invisible upon getting hit, teleport away after getting hit, and blast enemies away from you.
    You're impossible to pin down, and that's all without using spell slots

    • @jwktiger05
      @jwktiger05 Před 3 měsíci

      Monty should make that an NPC boss guy in Drakkenheim

  • @lexmtaylor
    @lexmtaylor Před rokem +9

    Rogue is really good for Expertise in Deception. The other Rogue features are good but increasing your skills on a Warlock really works so well with all day invocations like Mask of Many Faces/Disguise Self.

  • @lunatickgeo
    @lunatickgeo Před rokem +7

    I think with the wizard dip is to treat it like the fighter or cleric, it's not there to increase spellcasting but to give access to the 2nd level subclass features. Granted, not all of them are useful to the warlock but Chronal Shift and Portent would really help with warlocks spells that need to saving throws to avoid. Hypnotic Gaze and to a lesser degree, Arcane Ward (because the ward won't have too many points but Armor of Shadows would keep it up pretty much indefinitely), can be pretty useful, too. And you can use the wizard spells to get utility spells so you don't have to get higher than 13 Int (Shield, Feather Fall, Absorb Elements, Silent Image and all the 1st level ritual spells - detect magic, find familiar, identify, etc). Plus Sleep doesn't require high Int to be effective.

  • @beastninjai8251
    @beastninjai8251 Před rokem +18

    I've played a Fallen Aasimar Fiend Warlock with a few levels of Divine Soul Sorcerer for metamagic and some of the nice cleric spells and he hit like a truck in combat but also had some of my favourite story moments of all the characters I've played.

    • @orishahar
      @orishahar Před rokem +1

      that does sound like a very interesting character!

    • @nooneknows3520
      @nooneknows3520 Před rokem

      And all of that can come online at level 6. 5 levels of hexblade, 1 level in divine soul, and take the metamagic adept feat. Make sure one of your learned spells for the divine soul is inflict wounds. For Invocations, make sure you have taken pact of the blade so that you can take Improved Pact Weapon, Eldritch Smite, and Thirsting Blade. Make sure one of the metamagics you take from the feat is quicken. Enjoy.

  • @kevrowsome-smith8597
    @kevrowsome-smith8597 Před rokem +7

    I'm currently playing a Genie Swarmkeeper, whose Dao patron demands that he retrieve his bodyweight in sufficiently valuable gems as payment for rescuing him from slavery in a duergar mine. The swarm and his eldritch blasts are reflavoured as pebbles and stones which, as he progresses, transform into more and more precious gemstones. It's not especially more powerful (though the swarm + crusher + invocation forced movement + spike growth is *delicious*), but it's a ton of fun!

    • @solar4planeta923
      @solar4planeta923 Před rokem +1

      I designed a Dao warlock as an NPC and that was fun. He was a mountain dwarf obsessed with the secrets of the earth, and was an interesting guide, foil, and eventual benefactor for the party. After they cleared out the Forge of Fury he took over management, and promised them magic items made at the forge a year later in payment.

  • @ryanball8944
    @ryanball8944 Před rokem +3

    A friend and I, disappointed with the lack of a dragon patron, made the Pact of the Dragon our first homebrew subclass

  • @drunyonator
    @drunyonator Před rokem +10

    Ancestors Barbarian can really get a lot out of Warlock's Armor of Agathas spell (works with clockwork soul sorcerer too). Rage granting resistance to most damage doubles the benefit of the temp HP and maximizes the number of chances you can deal the cold damage. Reckless attack and the 3rd level ancestors ability really encourages enemies to hit you. It's a fun build. Ancestors Barbarian/Fiend Warlock would be especially fun for some very angsty RP (or an evil campaign).

    • @Bondonb
      @Bondonb Před rokem +3

      Also consider the Undead patron. Got a 1d12 greataxe? At level 6 it's 2d12, and necrotic.
      You also get temp HP, frightened immunity, and force frightened on anything that survives your attacks.
      Pact of the Blade it and eventually you can just Armor of Agathys and use your other slot(s) to eldritch smite.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda Před rokem +27

    Guys, I haven't even gotten into Baldur's Gate, and now I need to make a Barbarian/Warlock build.
    Edit: Can't wait to see Colby bust out the Monk/Warlock build. He's pretty much got to, it includes Monk levels.

  • @nicktapio2822
    @nicktapio2822 Před rokem +4

    Dudes, this video was so fun! I was kinda dreading it for hexblade reasons, but you guys made it so much more interesting than that! The sans hexblade theory crafting was a really fun listen.

  • @mattnelson2501
    @mattnelson2501 Před rokem +6

    I love the mention of GOOlock/Watchers Paladin - it's a concept I'm playing in an upcoming mini campaign. The flavor is a bit different, though I love the story you came up with, but the mechanics are pretty solid as well for a non-hexblade lockadin.

  • @nolanwright3949
    @nolanwright3949 Před rokem +9

    You said alchemist doesnt excite you but i think thats the coolest mulitclass with artificer here. The potions you make last until your next long rest and you can get your spell slots back on a short rest from warlock alowing you to chain short rests similarly to a coffelock to make a bunch of potions

    • @MrAjerguy
      @MrAjerguy Před rokem +2

      My thoughts exactly! This one seems wild to me

    • @toddhadley9002
      @toddhadley9002 Před rokem +5

      I agree. The biggest weakness of the alchemist is that it has nothing to do in combat. Eldritch Blast solves that problem nicely.
      The ability to make potions using spell slots should not be underestimated, especially if your spell slots come back on a short rest. Think of each potion option as another known spell on your spell list. A spell that you can cast and save for later by converting it into a potion. A spell that's concentration free, cannot be counterspelled or dispelled, and can even be given to someone else to cast for you.
      This gives you the ability to have any unused spell slots carry over from one short rest to another, by "storing" these specialized spells in potions.
      The healing potion option alone makes this a worthwhile multiclass for a warlock. There are only 3 ways I know of in the game to gain a "heal others" power that comes back on a short rest (Way of Mercy monk using ki points, Celestial warlock via the Cure Wounds spell, and now this multiclass). A healing potion created this way may not be as numerically powerful as a simple cure wounds spell from a celestial warlock, but if I drop to 0 HP in battle, I'd rather have a minor healing potion in the hands of an ally than be a Level 20 Life domain cleric.
      The other potion options are similar, but one of the biggest advantages is that they free up your known spells. The Fly spell is faster than the potion of flight and can be upcast to target more than one person, but how often do you need 30 feet of flying speed when 10 feet won't work nearly as well? If I knew I could always make a potion of slow flight, I wouldn't learn Fly, giving me what amounts to an extra known spell.
      And what about Alter Self? The only other way for a warlock to gain the spell is with a high level invocation. This not only lets you gain the benefits, it also lets you give the benefits to someone else. Even your entire party if you're willing to spend the spell slots. And it's concentration free so you don't have to worry about losing your water breathing if you're underwater.
      And let me reiterate, all of this comes back on a short rest.
      The other nice thing about this multiclass is that it doesn't require any particular build. Go with your favorite patron and pact boon. You don't need Hexblade/Pact of the Blade to make this work.

    • @ye4thorn
      @ye4thorn Před rokem +3

      Finally the Barista.

    • @skywandering7042
      @skywandering7042 Před rokem

      @@toddhadley9002i want to make this character so what level splits do u recommend

  • @natejablonski
    @natejablonski Před rokem +17

    I will bring up the War Wizard subclass to potentially boost your blaster character a bit. You get the ability to use a reaction to boost AC and saving throws as long as you don't cast a non-cantrip spell next turn. If you're casting Eldritch Blast anyway, that's not really a cost.
    I'd probably still also pick up Sorcerer levels with this, but it's not a bad option.

  • @1rotzy
    @1rotzy Před rokem +7

    Despite the lower rankings this video, this one is kinda my favorite of this tier list. This encourages creativity on how these classes could work together in new ways. It's sad that the interesting ones are never used, but it makes sense in the grand scheme. Taking these multiclasses from levels 1-12 could be a painful experience.

  • @bukharagunboat8466
    @bukharagunboat8466 Před rokem +7

    I like the idea of an artificer-genie warlock build. Both are concerned with making things, so there's a concept. The trick is making the Genie Bottle a Homunculus Servant, so it can fly around with you inside it! It's better the other way around, with the higher level in Artificer (and especially if the DM will allow the same trick with a Steel Defender).

  • @mellowtron1166
    @mellowtron1166 Před rokem +26

    I love these multiclass combo videos for each class! Keep up the great work, Dudes!

  • @MrAveryLuke
    @MrAveryLuke Před rokem +8

    This channel is one of my favs for a reason. Always coming with the best D&D content

  • @andreaspersson5639
    @andreaspersson5639 Před rokem +5

    Suddenly I hope for a video about "Best Arcane Archer" (if only because I love the concept, but am left completely cold by the actual implementation...). You've opened my eyes to how to achieve something fun there, just need to get over my fear of charisma

  • @sandmanlives3
    @sandmanlives3 Před rokem +12

    20:15 Also there is a Warlock Invocation that allows for max healing for yourself! 😊

  • @danwebber9494
    @danwebber9494 Před rokem +5

    Love the warlock barbarian mix. Invocations can give a barbarian a lot of badly needed utility, but this video is about a warlock dipping into barb. Lots of potential I think.

  • @mojojomoo
    @mojojomoo Před rokem +2

    Conquest / Undead wasn't even mentioned in the paladin breakdown and I am devastated. One of my favorite characters I have ever played.

  • @iammattis1479
    @iammattis1479 Před rokem +10

    I’m glad the Barbarian got some recognition in here; I think if I play a Barbarian in a full campaign, it’s probably going to be a Zealot or Ancestral Guardian with some levels of Celestial Warlock.

  • @samjohnston5877
    @samjohnston5877 Před rokem +7

    For the “dragon patron” I made a Fiend Draconic Bloodline combo who was the child of a dark ritual performed by the cult of the dragon. Since Tiamat is currently in Avernus and even made a dragon-demon hybrid race

  • @urvidhnarula6362
    @urvidhnarula6362 Před rokem +5

    Something interesting you can do with warlock/paladin multiclasses is you can take Pact of the Tome for Shillelagh to attack using Charisma. in that case you end up taking Paladin up to 6 for the Aura and Extra Attack because you don't have access to that invocation anymore, but you can be awesome as a caster and as a melee character. It's something interesting to consider for small parties.

  • @FruitcakeSOOP
    @FruitcakeSOOP Před 11 měsíci +2

    One of my favorite characters that I've played was a phantom rogue/fey warlock. The focus was on rogue but adding some warlock spells did a lot to keep the character moving. Even more fun were the shenanigans that happened.

  • @stevenwhitehead8468
    @stevenwhitehead8468 Před rokem +4

    Playing a Warlock Hexblade/Rogue Swashbuckler in "Rime of the Frost Maiden." been a blast, so far. Mask of Many Faces has come in handy many times and Misty visions gives me a heavily obscured area from which to attack and then break off and hide. Looking forward to relentless Hex invocation. I'll be a true mobility nightmare for my DM.

  • @Zamun
    @Zamun Před rokem +3

    Love seeing your call out to D4. You certainly gave me some unexpected builds for upcoming one-shots

  • @theblindbuildergrandminuti5648

    I loved these! Close to complete though, it’s been fun watching all of these, and all the things Colby comes up with from your promos :)

  • @TheBadasstracks
    @TheBadasstracks Před 11 měsíci +1

    Currently playing a HexBuckler in a Spelljammer campaign and it is a lot of fun. Booming blade and free disengage is serving me very well. Great vid dudes!

  • @willburns7329
    @willburns7329 Před rokem +1

    I'm currently playing a Swashbuckler Rogue 6/Archfey Warlock 3 and I cannot oversell how amazingly the two classes play off of each other

  • @archibaldzidlicka8960
    @archibaldzidlicka8960 Před rokem +10

    Good video as always. I think there is an interesting case for the undear warlock/ barbarian combo, because of the form of the dread. It would be interesting to play like Zealot barbarian/Undead Warlock.

    • @warrenwiley5656
      @warrenwiley5656 Před rokem +2

      As they were discribing the Warlock/Barbarian with a Fiend Patron, I was getting instant Elric of Melnibone vibes. Temp HP, Pact weapon...
      "Blood & Souls for Arioch !!!"

  • @darcraven01
    @darcraven01 Před rokem +8

    11:20 you could use the genie warlock for the extra damage from genie's wrath
    16:37 as for bard lock multiclassing, ive wanted to do a great old one college of whispers multiclass for a while now
    46:53 i'd pair draconic sorc with hexblade to use the ac and hp bonuses from the draconic resistance with a melee warlock..

  • @Doyoulikeadacheese
    @Doyoulikeadacheese Před 11 měsíci +2

    One amazing combination of subclasses that I think you guys totally glossed over for Warlock/Rogue is combining the Swashbuckler with the Hexblade. They work really well off of each other since the Swashbuckler relies on their Charisma score as well. Also, if you want to make a cool magical pirate themed character, the Swashbuckler Rogue/Fathomless Warlock is an outstanding combination.

  • @kruvken8582
    @kruvken8582 Před rokem +4

    I actually made a celestial warlock pact of the blade. Cause i wanted to play around with a different type of character, but still get that gish feel. So i made my dex the main stat on my character to multiclass into rouge or fighter. Is it optimal. no not at all. But the theme and feel of the character is a blast! And having contant healing in fight on bonus action has been really nice in fights, to get up people getting knocked unconscious. Sometimes going against the norm is just fun cause it's different flavour of icecream!

  • @lsamaknight
    @lsamaknight Před rokem +3

    You guys really need to check out the modern magic unearthed arcana. Gives you the Ghost in the Machine patron to pair with the clockwork soul or artificer

  • @simounobrien9096
    @simounobrien9096 Před rokem +2

    Pact of the Blade+Paladin has one monumental advantage, Extra Attack with your Pact weapon. That means, you could literally do three Smites in a turn

  • @ADirtyLeviathan
    @ADirtyLeviathan Před rokem +1

    Great to see this video! I hope you you both enjoyed your time in my hometown here in Indy for Gen Con!!

  • @andrewdyjach7305
    @andrewdyjach7305 Před rokem +3

    On thing the tempest Cleric 2/Fathomless Warlock 5 can do is a max damage lightning bolt 1/short rest.

  • @kyomasa1
    @kyomasa1 Před rokem +2

    Treantmonk did an incredible Fey Wanderer/Undead build that focused on causing fear.

    • @PatRiot-le7rd
      @PatRiot-le7rd Před rokem

      Fey Wanderer/Arch Fey is thematically easier to explain, though it has fewer uses to trigger fear or charm to use the 7th level subclass feature Beguiling Twist. The issue with Fey Wanderer/Warlock is the build comes online late and is primarily a Ranger dipping into Warlock, where as this video is focusing on Warlock as the primary class.

  • @chrisforbus9794
    @chrisforbus9794 Před rokem +1

    Great options for the Warlock/Barbarian: Fathomless Warlock can use BA to summon tentacles for more damage and a little battlefield control.
    Celestial Warlock can heal as a BA and it isn't a spell so can use while raging. And what's worse than a barbarian taking half damage, smacking you, and then healing itself??
    You mentioned the fiend and that's fun.
    ALSO, wild magic barbarian can use Bolstering Magic to give itself spell slots back which you might need in a pinch if you can't get that short rest!
    Path of the Beast can also use the bite attack to regain HP too so if combined with Celestial Warlock, or Fiend Warlock for more temp HP, this can be incredibly dangerous

  • @jasonrichard8448
    @jasonrichard8448 Před rokem +2

    Dude warlocks are my favorite class and I feel like the simple concept of getting magic power from an entity makes a lot of sense in fantasy. I love all the interesting combos that you guys have here! I can't wait to try the swarm ranger and warlock. Maybe with chain and fey pact.

  • @heimtime_lifting
    @heimtime_lifting Před rokem +7

    Any class that uses charisma: “I wish there was a way to spice up my build”
    Hexblade: 👁️👄👁️

  • @menarg1549
    @menarg1549 Před rokem +3

    barbarian warlock with Armour of agathys and Fire shield with fiend patron is a lot of "thorns" damage, with a lot of temp HP on you
    it's pretty cool
    doesn't the fire genie also get fire shield? and flight! that'd be pretty nasty?

  • @bl9127
    @bl9127 Před rokem +2

    I played a 9 warlock (hexblade) combined with 3 ranger (gloomstalker) while taking advantage of shadows of moil, and elven accuracy. Using the darkness rules to gain invisibility and become immune to opportunity attacks while having improved advantage as well as great defence due to the imposed disadvantage felt very strong and a lot of fun.

  • @anthonycook2366
    @anthonycook2366 Před rokem +1

    another fun thing with the warlock paladin if you dont wanna go hexblade is going pact of the tome and picking up shillalagh as a warlock spell so you can still use your charisma bonus for your attacks. did this for my oath of ancients archfey warlock "green knight" and was a ton of fun

  • @MadnessOpus
    @MadnessOpus Před rokem +7

    Wait, shouldn’t Sorcerer come before this?

    • @GhostlyGrimace
      @GhostlyGrimace Před rokem

      I feel like they're gonna do that and Wizard as one video as there aren't as many combinations as the other classes, especially for Wizard

    • @Akira-ss6cm
      @Akira-ss6cm Před rokem +1

      ​@@GhostlyGrimaceI kinda hope not. Given the limit of known spells for sorcerers combined with their different casting abilities, the combinations are worth their own video imo.

  • @atingley0913
    @atingley0913 Před rokem +3

    Dang, we're already at Warlock? Did I miss the Sorcerer one? I don't remember seeing it!

  • @paytonjames2876
    @paytonjames2876 Před rokem +2

    Actually finished through a campaign with a Archfae Wood elf with a dip into rogue, 3 for Mastermind, Between ridiculously high persuasion and deception and the general feel of being the trickster in the back, with the help action. It was chaos and amazing.

  • @rcschmidt668
    @rcschmidt668 Před rokem +1

    Thanks again for this series! The alternative options are always fun to think about.
    Missed the new episode of Shadows last week, and look forward to seeing it when released.

  • @LukiecharmzTV
    @LukiecharmzTV Před rokem +3

    Did we skip the sorcerer?

  • @inazumaryuu
    @inazumaryuu Před rokem +4

    I just wanted to share the Sorlock I made for my friend's campaign:
    She is a Reborn, Undead/Draconic Bloodline Warlock/Sorcerer and even though there is a bit of overlap between Undead and Reborn, I did it all specifically for the flavoring. The idea behind her is that she is a full-blooded wyrmling that was cut down defending her homeland from an army of invaders. A necromancer shortly after found her remains (specifically her head) and brought her back to life with a few other body pieces that worked well enough to allow her life in a humanoid body again. She appears as an awkward Dragonborn with some peculiar proportions, but keeps herself cloaked to hide that away when not in her form of dread. Her patron is a dracolich that has been based on an ancient relative that was able to persist through the assaults and she has her Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer line for.... fairly obvious reasons. The DM has taken inspiration from you two and crafted a few spells specific to my character's DB spell list to draw from. Once my character is fully leveled, she will be 6 Sorcerer and 14 Warlock, 6 for the Charisma bonus to my spells and 14 for Spirit Projection. The latter of which will be 20th level and her spirit will have the appearance of her full-blooded dragon self.
    Hope you found my character to be interesting enough to read through all that! I've been anxiously awaiting leveling her up and revealing her secrets to the rest of her party.

    • @dcoffinh
      @dcoffinh Před rokem

      She sounds great! Hope you have fun playing her and she finds some peace in her new form!

  • @CallenExile
    @CallenExile Před rokem +1

    Fighter/Warlock is my favorite multiclass in the game, specifically Battlemaster/Celestial or Hexblade, and always as Pact of the Blade. I recomend 6 levels of Fighter so you still get all 5 ASIs, and your Patron's capstone ability at level 14.

  • @mcphadenmike
    @mcphadenmike Před rokem +1

    Oh MAN do I like the idea of any warlock build that managed to pry apart pact of the blade and hexblade!!

  • @Mo-Joe99
    @Mo-Joe99 Před rokem +3

    What about the sorcerer multi-class video?

  • @jyabriel08
    @jyabriel08 Před rokem

    I always love the shout outs between the dudes and D4 while I bounce from video to video on the respective channels.

  • @justinschmelzel8806
    @justinschmelzel8806 Před rokem +2

    With the barbarian you can still take EB and AB as a solid ranged option for when you struggle to get in melee. This is a really cool way to deal with the low number of spells a lock gets.

    • @shanelilly9673
      @shanelilly9673 Před rokem

      Yeah! I look at Rage as more of a fighting stance, not just “blind rage”… If the enemy starts far away, pelt them with EB, maybe one good concentration spell, let them come to you. Then when they close, Rage! I love the way rage and Armor of Agathys works together with this.

  • @thetennessee
    @thetennessee Před rokem +1

    I actually played a Warlock/Druid combo before. It was a Feypact Warlock with a dip into Stars Druid (and a bit into Scout Rogue too by the end of it). Anyways, one thing you tend to forget about is that a staff of the Woodlands benefits all spell attack rolls, even Eldritch Blast, and the RP was nice too. He had a personal quest to map out the ways back and forth from the material plane to the feywild, in order to bring lost souls in need of guidance to the archfey he was pacted to. Add a plucky Sprite from the pact of the Chain, and it was a great character to RP. Plus since I had high wisdom and charisma already, it wasn't bad at combat either.

  • @DanSolo41
    @DanSolo41 Před rokem +1

    I really like that Watchers Paladin/Great Old One Warlock idea.

  • @ICDndchat
    @ICDndchat Před 7 měsíci

    Firstly, great video lads, gave me plenty of ideas, secondly, you can always count on Kelly to wear something eye-catching that often brings nostalgia 😁

  • @timvallier9701
    @timvallier9701 Před rokem +2

    I would love to see you guys do a build guide for your theory crafted multi classes in these videos. I really want to see this arcane archer come to life.

  • @xcission8304
    @xcission8304 Před rokem +2

    I did a hexblade 6 arcane trickster 10 in a campaign not too long ago. Almost all my wizard spells were utility based so I didn't really have issues with different spellcasting mods. Getting those low level spell slots for things like shield or silvery barbs really makes the warlock feel a lot more comfortable using their magic, knowing that they'll have a few decently leveled smites on deck still.

  • @domaniac9119
    @domaniac9119 Před rokem +1

    I've played an Archfey Warlock/Gloomstalker Ranger in a Westmarch campaign, with the concept of an acolyte of the WIld Hunt (more like the traditional myth, less like Witcher), focusing on the bow with Improved Pact Weapon. It definitely takes time to pick up speed in lower levels, especially when you're not playing on a regular basis, and didn't go very far. I'm really looking forward to picking it up again for a higher level one-shot.

  • @tylernelson310
    @tylernelson310 Před 11 měsíci +1

    For the warlock/sorcerer, and maybe i missed it, you didnt include about the coffee lock, which is where you turn your sorcery points into spell slots, turn your warlock spell slots into sorcery points and take a short rest, you keep your converted spell slots as they only go away on a long rest, you get your warlock spell slots back, then you convert your sorcery points into sorcerer spell slots, your warlock spell slots into sorcery points and repeat as much as you want

  • @DarkAuraLord
    @DarkAuraLord Před rokem

    Colby is a beautiful, creative, and magnificent bastard of a theory crafter! Love that man, his build ideas are so damn cool!

  • @SS4Xani
    @SS4Xani Před rokem +2

    You have my attention at the Creation Bard/Genie Warlock combination. I'm going to run with that idea if you don't mind. :D

  • @fledgling9097
    @fledgling9097 Před rokem +1

    2 levels of tempest cleric and the rest into fathomless warlock, you get lightning bolt, thunder wave, and thunder step that you can max out. You also get heavy armor, a swimming speed and water breathing. Could be dope. Especially since Cleric channel divinity and Warlock spell slots both recover on a short rest. Then you can also have bless, which is still gold.

  • @TheLockFox7
    @TheLockFox7 Před 11 měsíci

    I wish I got to witness them realizing the broken power of echoknight and hexblade. But wow this channel is so comforting.

  • @aussiechicken6737
    @aussiechicken6737 Před rokem

    Dao/Tome Warlock (to 10) and Lore Bard (to 10) with Actor, Fey and Shadow Touched to max charisma and extra spells, and then Inspiring Leader and resilient Con to round out ASI/Feats. Driving goal is wall of force or hold monster pretty much at will (2 5th level bard slots and 2 short rest with warlock....)
    Plus 3rd and 5tl level magic secrets, free spells from the "Touched" feats, free ritual spells and support from the Tome, and a great general blaster.....
    This is my favorite play so far, I think. Holds her own in combat, bolsters her friends with inspiration, spells and HP, and rules all social interactions lol
    Love the videos!! Please keep em coming 😎

  • @TheMightyBattleSquid
    @TheMightyBattleSquid Před rokem

    This video is everything I could want of this concept. You did exactly what I do in other games I'm more experienced in, look for a fun idea conceptually, discover an interesting synergy(s), and completely lean into it before deciding whether or not to devote myself to the idea.

  • @bray2964
    @bray2964 Před rokem +1

    A Chromatic Dragonborn from Fizban's with the Dragon Fear feat who is a Conquest Paladin with two levels in Undead Warlock is a character that I'd love to play at some point. Their patron would be a dracolich. Frightened conditions for everyone!

  • @Animaniac461
    @Animaniac461 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I will actually be multiclassing my genie warlock into dragon sorcerer. The elemental flavor translates nicely between the two. The aberrant dragonmark feat adds additional flavor and utility

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hexblade Warlock + Abjuration Wizard is pretty good if your DM is lenient.
    The Armour of Shadows invocation is what makes it strong. You can keep your Arcane Ward at max levels between battles. And then you can get Temporary HP from Armour of Agathys.

  • @eleishar18
    @eleishar18 Před rokem +2

    Colby made a Hexbladesinger, check it 😉
    Also Redemption (or Vengeance) Paladin/Fiend Warlock, I present You: Ghost Rider 😈

    • @eleishar18
      @eleishar18 Před rokem

      Also for Artificer, Armorer/Any patron, any pact (especially Hexblade of course), heavy armored Warlock, without strength investment sounds pretty good.

  • @orishahar
    @orishahar Před rokem +1

    I would love a sorlock video from you guys!
    I really want to build an aasimar divine soul celestial patron now…

  • @alanmaxwell9105
    @alanmaxwell9105 Před rokem

    I did make a Dao Genie Warlock with the crusher feat and a 3 lv Arcane Archer fighter dip with the archery fighting style and improved bow pact weapon. So much fun. Imagine casting spike growth, action surge, fire a shot and hit, you add grasping arrow to the shot, then push them with crusher through the spiked growth, and tack on an eldritch smite to top it off. Well you’ve used your spell slots, but then you get that 10 min short rest in your vessel to get your arcane shots and spell slots back. Beautiful.

  • @Smoldar
    @Smoldar Před rokem +1

    My favorite multiclass for Warlock focused is what I call "Padlock" 7 Paladin 13 Warlock. Obviously being hexblade and the paladin side I normally go for Ancients. You have so much survival, tankiness and options for a full bruiser style build.

    • @gibbousmoon35
      @gibbousmoon35 Před rokem +1

      Surely a Padlock must go with pact of the chain, no?

  • @Seraphim_MTG
    @Seraphim_MTG Před rokem +1

    These videos have been an endless source of cool character ideas to experiment with

  • @saltypork101
    @saltypork101 Před rokem

    I think the most underrated multiclass for a Warlock by both the Dudes and their community poll is the Druid.
    First off, you don't need a high Wisdom to get a lot of value out of the Druid spell list, thanks to spells like Goodberry, Absorb Elements, Healing Word, Pass Without Trace, Locate Object, and Spike Growth. There are plenty of others, but these are the very best for mediocre Wisdom at low Druid levels.
    Druid levels on any Warlock gives you short rest spell slots for Goodberry and Pass Without Trace. Extremely good. Congrats, you now have as much out of combat healing as you could ever want, and all the surprise rounds you could ever ask for.
    If you're going mostly Hexblade, dipping any class with Spellcasting is nice because it gives you Shield slots. You don't want to be casting Shield with high level Warlock spell slots. Druid doesn't normally get Shield, but Hexblade does, and Druid gets the low level slots to use it.
    Or if you really like hanging out in wildshape, GOO gives you telepathy right at level 1 for all your communication needs.
    Meanwhile, Druids get some of the premier AoE control spells in the game, and Warlocks get Repelling Blast to push enemies into (or through, looking at you, Spike Growth) said spell effects.
    Wildfire Druid plus EB lets you control ally and enemy position a whole heaping lot, which is very fun and very valuable, while Stars would instead help you protect your precious concentration. As a multiclassed character which is primarily Warlock, this is really important as you only get at most 2 high level slots per combat until very late levels.
    Oh, and conceptually? It's a witch. Arguably the strongest fantasy character flavour that can't easily be reduced to a single class in 5e.
    Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

  • @chrisg8989
    @chrisg8989 Před rokem

    Warlock Barbarian sounds cool the way you guys are building it. Reminds me of my Barbarian Paladin. Raging Smites!

  • @sarahgardner8856
    @sarahgardner8856 Před měsícem

    Watching you two think through the warlock barbarian combo was so cool

  • @dyeager152
    @dyeager152 Před rokem

    "sad" at 24:59 made me cackle in the middle of my meeting at work xD

  • @jeremyleonjonas7657
    @jeremyleonjonas7657 Před rokem +1

    Currently playing a Warlock (Archfey) and Fighter (2 level dip) multiclass and am doing exactly what Monty said: an arcane archer in cool. And yes, its amazingly fun. As is turning eldritch blast into a genkidama with action surge, honestly xD