Butter, Meat and The Science and Politics of Nutrition l Doctor's Farmacy with Dr. Mark Hyman EP2
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- The story this week on the podcast is as much about politics as it is about science. In my conversation with Nina Teicholz, a leading science journalist, we explore saturated fats, modern nutrition policy, and flawed research on our way to some startling conclusions. Join us.
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Dr. Hyman is a 10 time #1 New York Times bestselling author, family physician and international leader in the field of Functional Medicine. His podcast, The Doctor's Farmacy, is a place for deep conversations about the critical issues of our time in the space of health, wellness, food and politics. New episodes are released every Wednesday here on CZcams, and wherever you listen to podcasts.
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Still watching 4 years later. I'm a diabetic and my glucose was highest at 245. That's the upper limit of high, bordering dangerous. I didn't want meds so I did a very low carb diet, fasting OMAD and cycling for exercise. 6 weeks later my glucose went down to 120. You're right. Our diet is killing us slowly.
Great job!
That is amazing! Good going!
I started at 318 lbs in 2016. I was taking insulin 2 to 3 times per day up to 110 units. I literally searched the web like a madman and found the ketogenic diet. They were not saying it would cure diabetes at that time but it would at least help it and reduce the meds. I started the Keto Diet approx. 3 years ago. Have lost 75 pounds (without exercise, I just had a hip revision and couldn't exercise before now), reduced my blood pressure, reduced my reflux a lot (stopped myself from getting esophagus surgery), stopped Insulin (A1C of between 5 and 5.5), stopped Prilosec, stopped having sleep apnea, reduced my inflammation so my hip replacements are comfortable. I love good satiating Saturated Fats. Why aren't doctors SCREAMING this information to the heavens. I know it's a money issue (from many directions) so I guess they choose to sell their souls to the Devil to keep quiet????? Yes I agree don't listen to the Government anymore.
The Medical Profession never admits when it's wrong... thereby violating their Hippocratic Oaths WHOLESALE.
Biggest problem I saw (retired) was new drugs.... barely better (often worse) than the old generics but $Hundreds per month more. If the generic produced the THERAPEUTIC RESULT (e.g. Lab Results) that should be OK... But whenever bad results occur... Lawyers go after the Doctor for NOT using the best available Drug. So most Doctors just Rx the expensive new stuff. Letting patients decide... always results in their Insurance paying many $Thousands a year (and $Hundreds in Copays to them).... Compared to $30 a month...or often FREE (at Wal-Mart).
Also...DON'T BELIEVE anything the Press Reports... the MSM has become the Mouthpiece of the Unelected part of the Government... and the Mouthpiece of Big Pharma (that does >1/2 of all advertising the Press sells).
You are absolutely RIGHT! It's ALL ABOUT $$$$ Money! Even today, Drs will NOT give truthful information about Diet to patients - and instead either push the "diet" currently advocated for by the ADA (American Diabetic Assoc) the AHA (American Heart Association - OR they just refer you to a nutritionist or dietician who will do the same thing - WHY? because Big Pharma controls what Doctors and Dieticians learn in school. It's disgusting. I had Type 2 Diabetes and was almost 100 lbs overweight, high blood pressure and many other problems - this, despite having tried SO MANY diets that I was told would work. THEY DIDN'T, and I got worse. Finally, 3 yrs ago, I found Ketogenics and low carb. Three years later and I now eat a whole foods, low carb diet (a combination of keto and carnivore) I have been completely grain free, sugar free, and processed food free for over two years and never felt better. I've also lost that 90 lbs - easily - while never being hungry. Not only that, but my blood work has completely changed for the better - including my triglycerides and all of my other cholesterol measures.
Absolutely agree with all that you said!! The "standard of care" is killing us....
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I have been a nurse for 35 years and have seen the explosion of metabolic syndrome. It’s catastrophic effect on the inpatient population can not be overstated. You both are doing amazing work . Information is power.
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I agree Mary . This doctor talking climate change is a donkey,Best country is pastured country . Strongest people eat from pastures. Vegetable oils are toxic .Concentrated sugars and grains lead to chronic disease
And nursing morbidly obese people is awful, for both patient and nurse.
I am a nurse for 37 years who have metabolic disorders. Thyroid and possibly hypopituitarism. All those fastfood meals sent the Hospital when we worked doubles were not healthy meals.
@ Mary Vavrek. But have the doctors caught up with the idea that low carb is the solution?
Wow. I JUST noticed, after watching this all the way to the end that when Nina said the "floaters in my eyes are gone" that I haven't had a floater in my eyes since I changed my diet this year. 6 months in and just never even noticed it before. Another crazy immediate benefit.
Wow. Good to know!
I hope mine goes away!
I am going to change my food intake! I hope it helps my eyes! Changing the food we take in can bring positive change. My dog suddenly had good energy levels, and very clean teeth, when he came off expensive kibble onto meats, cooked and raw. Like a miracle!
I've noticed that, too, with my eyes, 6 weeks in on the carnivore way of eating.
Yes our dogs horrible skin problems vanished when we stopped buying dog food and fed her mostly meat scraps from the same meat we eat. She used to smell so bad no one would let her stay with them when we went out of town. Now she is welcome at other peoples houses @@annadonahue4119
Nina is one of my few living heroes. Truly a brilliant, effective woman.
I was vegan for 2 1/2 years and one day I couldn't stopped craving meat.Had a steak with lemon thyme butter and almost immediately felt my energy level hit the roof.4 mths on and I've never looked back.
Super happy for you!
@jonjo O'Brian haven't you heard? Clinical studies have shown that the healthiest people consume 3 to 5 grams of salt per day. Much more than the dietary guidelines of no more than 2.3 grams.
what did you eat when you went vegan?
@@h-dawg6462 plants?
I was similar Elizabeth. I shifted between vegan and vegetarian on and off for 25 years, and it literally made me so ill. To the point where when I was in my late 30's I could feel my body shutting down. I'm on a meat and dairy diet now and am slowly getting rid of all my auto-immune issues and feel healthier than ever. When I was vegan I literally craved the meat so bad, because my body was screaming for the nutrients and when I ate meat again, I cried, Not because I felt I'd failed, but because I felt so good and satisfied afterwards... I'll never look back. I'm 100% convinced that no-one can sustain a vegan diet. I've heard so many people say they're fine on it, then after 10-15 years they are very ill, have liver and kidney problems and are literally malnourished, but are like "No, it's not because of the vegan diet..." Total denial.
I absolutely LOVE Nina Teicholz and her work - she has brought so much important work and nutritional information into the "light" and exposed the entire "fat is bad, meat is bad, eggs are bad, etc" for the BIG BIG LIES they are. A huge thanks to Nina Teicholz and others like her.
Team Nina!
My 90 year old grandfather ate steak for 40 years because he worked in a slaughterhouse and it was free. He's in great shape today with no major health issues. My father ate the SAD diet and lots of sugar, had a heart attack at age 60 and passed away at 65 from diabetes.
It's not the sugar though it's the fat in the sugar foods. It elevatates blood sugar causes diabetes and hypertensive heart disease. There are good carbs and bad carbs just as there are good fats and junk fats. You seem to come from a line of good genetics. N=1 means nothing.
Well Said
starchaser28 That's funny because steak every day IS THE MAIN FOOD in the SAD diet.
Sorry about losing your dad. Most of us take our parents for granted.
@@megabikie5255 That's misleading, the SAD also contains corn syrups and lots of other nasties...
For what it’s worth. I’ve been (mostly) sugar free, and grain free for about a year. For over 20 years, I’ve had lower back issues (several microdiscectomy procedures, injections, etc.) and was hardly ever NOT in pain. Now, after a year of a Keto-ish lifestyle change, I have forgotten about back pain! About 3 months ago, I broke down and drank some beers with some old Marine buddies, back pain and joint pain the very next day. I’m sold!
I got good news from the doctor the other day, 3 months ago my a1c blood 🩸 test said I was pre diabetic.i was so afraid 😱 didn’t want to be diabetic so I went on keto program ,then the carnivore and had my blood test . It was 5.9 pre diabetic, - my new test 5.5 normal I’m so happy about being healthy eating this way . Thank you 🙏 every body on You Tube for helping me with my success,!
5.9 is not pre diabetic
Fantastic! Pre diabetic is a useless term. It just means they don’t want to give you medication yet. You are already in trouble at that point if you don’t make some changes. Well done on the improved HbA1c
Despite the warnings about saturated fat, I've eaten meat and dairy, including butter, my whole life. I'm 65 and in perfect health.
In this modern diet, the culprit are sugar corporates. They always do nasty propaganda.
Oh, no, you only THINK you are.
Don't listen to your lying body. Change to soy and vegetables, and you will know what real health is.
I can hear the vegans now :)
I have always ate a low fat diet and have struggled with my weight. Long story short my husband and I went to a functional medical Dr. that suggested a diet with meat for breakfast, lunch and dinner with veggies at lunch and dinner and to my surprise the weight came off effortlessly 😱 I was amazed!!! I like what you said Mark - if man made it don’t eat it but if GOD. Made it eat eat 🤩 great podcast thanks for all the info 😊😊
The vegetables are man made. They didn't occur in nature as we know them today
55 years ago I stumbled upon Atkins. Eat meat, fish and
eggs, vegetables and fruit for desert. Easiest way to lose
weight.
I went to Zambia last year to visit my fiancé who was working there at the time and basically the only form of fat was soybean oil. I remember not liking anything because I found it stinky (now I know the oil went rancid because it was unstable) and it was nearly impossible to wash the dishes. I was so relieved to go back home and eat my beloved lard 😁
Lard and Ghee the best
Back in the old days Lard was a key ingredient in Soul Food and in fact all southern food cooking and they used to save the Bacon fat n the bacon drippings to flavor their soups and stews and other things.😊 it was great
@@TheRealNewBlackMusic 😂 I still use it. Because I had a shoulder cuff surgery two weeks ago and repair of severely damaged tendons I was unable to drive so I asked a neighbour to get me some. She laughed at me but got it anyway. She uses vegetable oil 😂 😂 😂
So basically, eat exactly opposite of how we've been told to eat for decades.... 🤷♂️
Yes if you want an heart attack while financing charlatans like this lady go ahead
Ignore the fool who responded already. He/she can continue to eat sugar and carbs and hold on to the lies we've been told forever. Follow the money, just like anything else. This lady followed the conclusions from her research rather than pushing an agenda that so many have over the past 100 years.
I’ve been keto 2.5 yrs and lately *experimenting* increasing beef, mineral salt, pasture eggs, decreasing all other keto foods. I’m 49, great energy, and my mental & emotional health is improving by leaps & bounds! Had labs at 1yr post keto and 2yr - both good. Total cholesterol is 225 not that I’m concerned but other people want to know.
I’m gearing up to start strength training again. I power walk 3-6 miles almost everyday. Thank God for ketosis and the things I’m learning from Internet Docs, testimonials, and other great teachers. So thankful. I believe ketosis and elimination of most frankenfoods is going to improve many people’s health. I’m hoping it makes a difference in years to come with metabolic & cognitive lifestyle based disease. 🙏🏼
Thank you Doc!!
I bought the book "The Obesity Code" by Dr. Jason Fung, MD, and gave the book as a gift to my primary care doctor. The book does an excellent job explaining how hormones make people gain or lose weight in layperson's language. For the doctor, there's a big "Endnotes" section listing all the research that Dr. Fung read to write the book. I highly encourage other people to give that book to their doctors.
do you think your Doctor read it?
@@hotdog5966 , yes. My doctor read it. At my next annual appointment, my doctor thanked me for the book and said their whole family is following what the book says.
@@kimberlycooper4170 Wow, that's amazing!
Wow excellent!
Love Dr. Fung
She made me laugh on another part where she talked about the doctor warning you against the dangerous diet that's making you so healthy. I had gone to my doctor for a blood test when I was 32 days into a 40-day fast. The doctor actually said how nice it was that I had lost 45 lbs in that time and that my blood results were the best he's ever seen, but that I should quit my dangerous fast.
Fart XD
Son of Liberty It would be funny if it wasn't so depressing. I've read Nina's book as well as books written by other low carb advocates after being diagnosed with metabolic syndrome and having other health problems. Doctor just wanted to give me drugs. Refused medication and did research instead. Went low carb high fat and in 3 months all signs of metabolic syndrome disappeared. Doctor confused by results of tests that confirmed this and gave me 'permission' to continue with diet but only if she could monitor it. Best part is that I'm never hungry and my depression has almost completely disappeared. Planning on going to the next stage to eventually eliminating carbs to the minimum and see what happens.
@Irene Ewens
While there are those that propose moving to lowest possible or even zero carbs, it is worth mentioning that there is a plethora phytochemicals available in vegetables that do not exist in any meats. Some can, of course be obtained just by using spices but there are others that necessitate cruciferous vegetables (for example).
A consideration in all of this is that regardless of what you eat, you are still exposed to thousands of toxins that our ancestors were not exposed to and some of these 'available only in plants' compounds have been shown to minimize the damage from such toxins and to promote detoxification.
@@billleach3396 , certain vegetables are permitted in a zero-carb, ketogenic diet. Cruciferous, for example, are an allowed group. Nothing wrong with going zero-carb and in fact, human have no dietary need to eat any carbohydrates. None.
@@kayallen7603
While I do agree with what you posted. There are people that seem to only be fully healthy on a 100% pure carnivore diet (seems to be genetic). Those people seem to have allergies to practically all vegetables and there is even a subgroup that reacts poorly to ingesting any amount of insoluble fiber.
Dr. Hyman, it would be really convenient if the names of your episodes also mentioned the names of your guests. You interview many well known and influential people and their names would create more attention as well as make it easier to search later on. And thank you for the great content.
I love Nina!! Smart and class act!!
Another great interview!! Thanks Dr Hyman❤️
Great interview. Thank you both. Can't wait for evidence based science to help humanity move forward into a healthy future.
She wrote the book and he lectures her - she is very graceful in the way she corrects him.
Thanks for having Nina on. I was 20 pages into her book when I came across this podcast. Nina is brilliant and even with all the science and facts, family and friends all think I’m crazy. Keep up the great science based research! Dr. Hyman you are awesome and I’ve been following you for several years.
Don't be so quick to dismiss what your family and friends say.
My family thought the same thing 6 months ago. I gave them a week's worth of keto dinners, including dessert, and changed their minds. So delicious and they all felt much better as well. Now they don't argue or fuss.
THANK YOU< THANK YOU < THANK YOU!!! I will be 65 on Halloween and when I was 32 I was able to run marathons at a 6 :00 per mile pace... ate like a Spartan, worked full-time, raised a family and trained half as well as an Olympic athlete. I THOUGHT I knew how to eat properly and was lean at 5'10" 145 lbs... about 6% body fat. As I got older, stopped training and slowed down I put on nearly 100 pounds... guess how much of that was FAT storage?
My normal weight, not the super skinny runner weight was probably around 165 to 170, but I had gotten fatter slowly over the next decades even while eating the AMA recommended food pyramid selections. I do not have a sweet tooth and was not a potato chip and soda kind of guy. Four months ago I heard of the Ketogenic Lifestyle and began studying, listening to Dr. Eric Berg, BUTTER BOB, Tom DeLauer and Dr. Ken Berry with their short CZcams clips. During this time I also moved when the home I was renting an apartment in was sold so I did not start this "lifestyle" until ten weeks ago. I have easily moved to 2 meals a day and do this with a 16 to18 hour "intermittent fasting" window. I DO NOT feel like I am dieting and chose NOT to buy a scale and instead only use a tape measure. I have already lost 3 inches off of my waist and feel like I am 1/3 of the way to my goal of 185. I figure at that point I will get a pizza before deciding if that is low enough or should I reach for 175.
The first few weeks felt like a bit of a biological experiment where my gut bio evolved from a carbohydrate seeking medium to a keto adapted one. During those times I experienced bloating, sleep disturbances, changes in my bowel movements, stinky urine and calf muscle cramps (which were more likely a result of the many boxes I had to move) UNTIL I learned the simple foods and spices, like cream of tartar, to get the potassium and magnesium levels up. Oh, and Himalayan sea salt with its 84 additional nutrients. After my body adapted I LOST all hunger until I extended my 2 meal a day regiment from 16 hours to 18, which simply meant, IF YOU ARE NOT HUNGRY DON'T EAT silly! I am not at OMAD (one meal a day) yet but can easily envision progressing to a four hour eating window where I can dine to my heart’s content within the CONSCIENTIOUS nutritional guidelines that ketogenics provides but only plan on doing that if the tape doesn't move. Meanwhile, I am continually learning and fine tuning the keto lifestyle and giving away all of the garbage that I no longer wish to eat.
There is a downside to giving away unwanted food; it is the GUILT of knowing that it is UNHEALTHY! So, in order to combat that infliction I give them my MS Word document, which includes a 2-page overview and 6 additional pages of notes to help them save time and jump start this program should they wish to try this path instead of the crappy one they’re on. If you would like to get a copy for your family, while you are waiting for Nina's book of course : ), just send an e-mail with "KETO" in the subject line and I will be happy to send it to you.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND this lifestyle to EVERYONE... especially the sick and obese and am spreading the word to all of my friends, loved ones and people I see making poor choices at the grocery store. I have only two complaints and they have to do with Brussels sprouts and cauliflower crust pizza. Sorry, NO SALE on those two. I did come up with a kick ass Chili Meat Pie that cures that pizza itch of mine. I'm sure there's a keto cookbook out there but I enjoy my “Frankenstein” recipes and exploring the new journey. The GREATEST THING about this LIFESTYLE is that I AM NOT DIETING!!! I am walking 2 to 4 miles three to four times a week, NOT EVEN lifting weights or anything that physically exerting and still the pounds are melting off. I sleep well, feel fantastic and am still super psyched about this ten weeks into it. I have not hit a wall of any sort and feel confident that even if I do that I can make the minor adjustments needed to climb over it.
Nina's book arrived a few days ago but I always finish the one I’m on before moving to the next. Call me old-fashioned, call me simple minded, just don't call me late for my KETO dinner! BIG SMILES TO ALL AND BIG HUGS TO NINA AND EVERYONE WHO HELP MOVE OUR LOVED ONES ONTO A HEALTHIER PATH.
LP&H
PMA
PS: DON'T BE SO SURE that the negative consequences of the AMA diet was unintentional. I wear a lot of conspiracy hats, I have a hole house full of tin foil hats and I can prove to you that we have been lied to and milked like cows from CRADLE TO GRAVE since the coup d'etat of November 22nd, 1963. Don't be so gentle with the enemies who poison us at every turn... from our foods, to our water to our air to our minds... pick a subject. I'll go first: Why have nearly 100 holistic doctors mysteriously committed suicide? (Especially those who could prove natural cancer cures...) Now that the deciding vote has been secured in Justice Brett Kavanaugh and the Supreme Court is finally back in the hands of the Constitutionalists, please recognize that only being partially truthful and avoiding this hard issue is STILL, in the final analysis a lie, which goes in favor of the transgressors and not the innocents. Please use your platforms more effectively and watch as the swamp creatures are marched out, tried and hung. We can be cowards and defeat the evil that rules over us.
PPS: The TITANIC never sunk... it sailed on for 25 years as the Olympic while the mortally wounded (in two documented sea accidents) was sunk in its place. Now, if we don't even know that fact after 100 years then how the Hell are we ever gong to get to the bottom of 9/11, Sandy Hook, Oklahoma City, WACO, MLK, RFK, JFK, Vietnam, Pearl Harbor... We CAN NOT trust the FDC, CDC or AMA... any more than we can trust the CIA or FBI. These are not unrelated issues... they are ALL part of the same FASCIST plot to destroy the fabric of America, destroy our Constitution and remove the amendments that allow us this free speech of ours and our ability to defend ourselves. You are both doing a lot of good but PLEASE, I implore you, do not choose cowardice over courage.
Great interview. I just want to acknowledge Sally Fallon and the late lipid researcher, Mary Enig who were trying to get the word out about healthy fats many years ago. My second edition copy of Nourishing Traditions is dated 1999. Fallon and others founded the Weston A Price Foundation which has been testifying before congress about the harmful lowfat dietary guidelines for years. The foundation has been on the cutting edge of science based nutrition and healthy safe agricultural practices.
Lynn Kramer They've also done great things in the fight vaccinations and bring back child deaths from preventable diseases.
@@siegfriedfurtwanglerknappe6188 because people won't eat enough meat and fish, eat the organ meats, bone broth, good nutritional foods. I am N.Z. Maori, we did not have flue or STd's, so we didn't have a built in immunity to these diseases and died by the 1000's, when the disease carriers came to our part of the world. We can all build up an immunity to disease. Maori no longer die anymore than any other race from influenza today. We have built up our immunity. Go on tell me that is N=1.
@@roywalker7512 That makes no sense whatsoever
@Jeanmarie Todd That's a false account of history. Many in the the research community investigated trans fats. Including, Kram and the HSPH. The latter probably had the biggest impact.
Sally Fallon doesn't know anything. All the mainstream researchers agree wee need fat just not 43% calories from fat as it guarantees diabetes. Keep it around 20%. czcams.com/video/CT8K6NcAigo/video.html
Eye-opening, even when viewed years after this interview occurred. Thank you, both.
"I would change our dietary guidelines".
May I recommend one step better: the government should stop telling ANYONE what to eat.
No one listens anyway. Look at foods in supermarket. High fat, High sugar, High caloric density, high salt. Guidelines don't mean anything no one follows them.
@Cleaning Up No they do not. People don't eat low fat pasta and they certainly do not eat enough rice and potatoes. Cheese is full fat by definition there is no such thing as low fat cheese. Almost all yoghurt has too many calories in fat, while containing too much sugar. The ideal yoghurt would would be no fat, no sugar. It is hard to find though.
@@TB1M1 yogurt that is not yogurt lmao stop with the nonsense. Fat is not the problem but oils, your body is made from saturated animals fat, omega 3 fats, and cholesterol. Vegetable oils with carbohydrates causes all illnesses not fat.
Mandated "enrichment" can be a problem for those unable to properly metabolize folic acid (MTHR) and iron (hemochromatosis, and many men, postmenopausal women)
or do with most things...
Let us never underestimate the power of CZcams.
I’d say not really YT but ability to share information globally for the benefit of all people around the world!
Tiecholtz is going against WHO guidelines on meat so may get censored
This is such a beautiful conversation. Thank you two for being brave in the face of traditional medicine systems, industry money and opposition, and fear of being outcasts. Even when I tell family about this new book and conversation we are having around butter, meat, and fat, they think I am crazy. We have so much work to do, and you've done a great deal here in this conversation. From the bottom of my heart, thank you, thank you, thank you.
This was incredibly enlightening. I was vegetarian up to a week ago. Now I'm changing to a meat diet. This has been really helpful. Thank you.
I did this a year ago, I'm mostly carnivore now, never felt better
I like that someone with an MD is on this because people don't listen to other people who don't have any degree in the health care field. I remember when many people told me that eating more than one egg a day is bad for me, and that butter is bad; good thing I followed my gut feeling and still ate everything they told me that was bad for me.
Recently I found out I have Gallstones, the largest ones 17mm and 21mm - and also fatty liver. Everything I have looked up says stop consuming dairy fat, and vegetable oils and carbs. Nothing tells me what to eat or use instead. This conversation has been enlightening. Thank you
Bravo to Nina Teicholz and Dr.Hyman!! Thank you and keep up the very important work!
It’s our own health ❤ so we must take 100% responsibility and seek the TRUTH!! Thanks for sharing such IMPORTANT info with the public!! GOD Bless you both 🙏🙏
amazing interview. the history of our food (farming, industrialization, policy, education) is fascinating. We are a country of under-educated people when it comes to any knowledge of food and health. Thank you Dr. Hyman and Nina T. for bucking the system and educating the masses on information that can change our lives for the better! KUDOS! I've started my own business, Training Wheels to Health, to do just what you both are doing! educating for health!
So happy to have found you Mark! This is a Great interview that is so easily understandable! Everyone needs to get informed! Thank you so much for doing this!
Such a pleasant and really informative interview :) You are really great at interviewing, Mark Hyman, and Nina Teicholz is always so very interesting to listen to.
The most frightening part of all of this is that inflammatory/toxic oils soybean, canola, etc. is in EVERYTHING. I almost bought avocado oil mayo but then decided to check the label. IT HAD SOYBEAN OIL listed as one of the first ingredients and avocado oil as one of the last. ugh. you have to be very diligent to be healthy in America bc we are our only advocates and that's with me being knowledgable of marketing ploys.
Thank you for all the education that you bring our way, Dr. Hyman! I have my own journey through weight loss and degraded health. I am now a health educator and am thrilled to have people like Nina to recommend.
Nina was an influence in my wife and I going carnivore last year and dropping over 150lbs between us. The evidence is there for people who will allow their nutrition paradigm to be challenged. The problem for most is that if one wall comes down then they start to doubt other foundational beliefs and are so scared of what that might bring, they never realize that it is the key to real growth as a human.
I completely agree. Once I convinced myself to allow my body to give me feedback and be my guide, my health was transformed. I was lead to mostly meat with low carbs and almost zero sugar. Once I got the seed oils out, I was all set. Covid policy helped the scales fall off my eyes and it affects every decision and research I make now.
I laugh now thinking just how simple human nutrition is for most. Imagine you’re going to lunch at a famous persons house in 1750. The food options were simple and the proper human diet overall.
Thank you for being you, Dr. Hyman!!!!! I can’t thank you enough for all the information you have given us. Your channel has helped Mr so very much. You are doing what you are meant to and thank you for sharing it all with us. Blessings to you and your family.
I was vegan for three years for reproductive health reasons and only lost 15lbs. Ive been healthy keto with IMF and ADF for 8.5 months and Ive lost over 56lbs. I decided on Keto and Fasting after finding out that I have master gland issues which would explain over 35yrs of weight struggles and "yo yo" dieting. I went Keto and decide to Fast for hormonal reasons and after discovering that I am definitely carb sensitive. The 56lbs was obviously necessary, but just a glimpse at the weight loss differences.
Just realize that the weight you lost was water.
@@TB1M1 56 lbs. Of water?
I am a Vegetarian/ Vegan now If Keto Diet! Lost over 50 lbs. Feel great! Most people don’t know how to be a Vegetarian or Vegan! Nothing new here! We always knew not to eat bread, high carbs and processed meat! IF in combination to the diet we are learning how to eat what we want!
@@TB1M1 nobody and I mean absolutely NOBODY is holding on to 56 pounds of "water weight" that's physically impossible
@@TB1M1 Hey - A 56 lb weight loss is NOT water. Wake up. I've studied Nutrition for a long time - A 10 lb weight loss MIGH be water - but a 56 lb weight loss is most definitely NOT.
I did Atkins for many years and never ate more than 20 grams of carbs per day. Tomorrow I'm starting the carnivore diet as done like Jordan Peterson and his daughter. Just beef, salt and water. Nothing else.
@Internet Entity Frank doesn't know what he's talking about. He said Vegan diet is bad for you on his channel then admitted it was good for health on Vegan Gains debate. His either a liar or stupid.
@@jr5296 Frank is a used car salesman.
Hello, how are you doing now?
I skip the salt, you will have diarrhea.
@@lt2339 I did that diet for two months or so. I ended up with gout in my right big toe but was able to cure that with several over the counter things like sour cherry extract and turmeric curcumin. I went back to a carb restricted diet like Adkins (just a keto diet). All's good, but meat only was way too boring.
I just found this and didn't realize it was 4 YEARS ago!! I have been Keto for yrs and NEVER heard this information!!. WOW I'm impressed by this
Great, long-overdue interview. Thank you, Ms. Teicholz and Dr. Hyman!
Ms Teicholz is a Doctor, too, ya know
I know this episode posted almost 5 years ago when most of us still had some faith in our government agencies, looking back at all the disastrous policies and treatments since this episode, I really have to question if this isn't intentional, especially looking at the new 'Food Compass' that is much worse than the plate or pyramid. It is amazing how relevant some of these older episodes still are today. Great show, thanks to both of you for all you do.
Much, much, much-needed info, even tho some of it is appalling. But I'm not surprised considering the times we live in. Thank you Ms. Teicholz and Dr. Hyman for this super-informative podcast. As a budding health coach, this book is in my Amazon cart and I am outlining the tips from this discussion! As I always say, the old ways are better.
Vegetarians keep on arguing about not eating lots of fat meat. Why don't they just go to a youtube channel that agrees with them instead of all this uneducated trolling.
Gary Schneider Yeah keep the low carb echo chamber intact. Debates aren't allowed when you follow a low carb fad diet.
And by Low carb, you mean an eating protocol that:
1. Reduces cellular inflammation;
2. Reduces and stabilses blood sugar, glycated haemoglobin;
3. Significantly lowers Insulin & IGF-1 secretion;
4. Reduces water retention;
5. Lowers weight to natural levels;
6. Lowers, then stabilises metabolism naturally;
7. Reduces food cravings;
8. Improves brain function, memory and concentration;
9. Significantly reduces the glycation of proteins, implicated in tissue inflammation
10. Allows brain neurons to run on beta-hydroxy butyrate, rather than toxic glucose
11. Reduce the fuel for so many hard cancerous tumours (glucose), a point lost on most cancer treatment protocols
The list goes on and on and on....oh yeah, reducing carbs is such a fad diet...do some reading and stop being so dogmatic
High carb, low fat diets have been such a success these last few decades...record cancer levels, T2 diabetes, heart disease...yeah, let's just keep chomping down those carbs, loading up the blood stream and the body with glucose and let the human race disintegrate by the end of the 21st century
Andre Bonner
High fat diets impair cognitive function. Not improve it.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21270386/
Also raises FFAs, methylglyoxal, LDL, lowers muscle mass more than fat mass.
All longest living populations eat high carb. All fat idiots like you eat low carb. If you're just going to make claims without any sources do us a favor and keep your stupidity restricted to the small s-hole where you can call yourself the village idiot.
Regarding the "fat idiots" remark of yours, I neglected to mention I am down 8kgs and continuously under 20% body fat so perhaps you are a little misguided on that. Eating dietary fat whilst keeping dietary carbohydrate low LOWERS BLOOD TRIGLYCERIDES which LOWERS CVD. Elevated glucose triggers higher insulin, a fat storage hormone which triggers the formation of TRIGLYCERIDES before jamming it in to fat cells...the only way to keep those triglycerides from accumulating is to exercise like hell (creating a whole host of other unnecessary problems) or, to lower blood glucose.
Muscle mass is impacted by protein intake, my MUSCLE MASS is UNCHANGED on a higher fat diet as my protein intake is consistent with previous consumption. Muscles retain more fluid when you consume higher carbohydrate intake as it simply stores more water in the muscle tissue. This retained water IS NOT more muscle mass, can you follow that or do you need to read a study written by one of your academic buddies to figure that out for yourself?
The long lived civilisations close to the equater eat higher carb diets (no dispute from me on that) and those 30° or more above or below the equator, do better on high fat (a well known principle in genealogy longevity research)
N=1 is not science. Here's an N=1 for you. My grandmother has smoked for over 70 years and does not have lung cancer. Does that prove smoking is not a risk factor for lung cancer or does it prove N=1 is reserved for village idiots such as yourself
Virta did not reserve diabetes. It's an industry funded study promoting a 4000 dollar program for a diet. Any diet that does not cost 4000 dollars can also achieve those results. They're not impressive.
Seyfried is a quack. Did keto on two people also undergoing conventional treatment. One woman did okayish the other died. whoopdiedoo quack quack.
At least I have a study showing the effects of low-carb on brain function. It gets wrecked. Low-carb impairs cognitive function.
Nina is a true hero of our time ! Thanks Mark. First time I heard her talk - I had my share of doubts, did not trust her from the start and for years heard many other experts- Gary Taubes, Mercola, Jason Fung and many others. My health improved dramatically folllowing her strategy !! My physical strength tests returned to the level of my early 20s, while being now in my mid-50s !!
George Harris awesome! ... I now laugh at all those meatheads who promote creatinine supplements.... a fresh piece of beef is far more superior....cause one week into carnivore I was doubling my reps on all my sets...lol
No/low carb works for me I’m 75 and really feel awesome. I even run HIIT and like to fast. 1/2 days mostly.
I'm 68, Carnivore/Ketovore for almost 3 yrs - and all of my health markers have improved. I agree with you
I stopped eating meat for 8 months and almost starved to death and went back to meat and it saved my life thanks for this information 😊👍
Thank you Dr. Hyman. Thank you Nina Teichilz for this eye-opening information. I learned so much in this episode as I do with all other fascinating and courageous people you have brought on your show. Changing the world one person at a time!!
An amazing conversation between two intelligent people ... not to mention the beautiful, graceful and funny woman Nina is. Thank you both!!
Hadn't the like button been virtual it would most certainly dent or crash as I kept hitting it every minute! Simple transcript of this interview would make a worth-reading book. I've been fascinated by latest developments around food for quite some time and listened to/red numerous Ted-talks, interviews, medical studies and new ideas, though none offered such density of facts and "awe" moments per minute. This is awesome. I was already becoming Nina's fan before youTube even got me here, but now - I'm getting your book and you're going into my hall of heroes! The history we're being taught at school is chiefly about kings and politicians, conquerors and people that won the fights for power - in other words a bunch completely useless to our species. We should be solely taught about scientists, tinkers, explorers, and people like you guys - people that debunk false beliefs, truth seekers that help take us the next step. Thank you.
You Dr. Mark Hyman;we love ❤️ you. Your guest we hope she returns a fantastic mind too.
Great interview. They're both so well-spoken and pack so many facts into each thing they say without filler -- thank you.
My friend told me she lives not far from a plant that makes vegetable oils. Two men who were cleaning one of the big vats died from chemical poisoning in those vats!!
When I asked my plumber what was the worst job he did, he said you would think it was blocked drains from excrement. He told me that wasn't the worst, but it was the block drains in commercial kitchens from fat.
I am in love with this woman.
I got diabetic as a vegetarian and healthier on grass fed meat and butter and full fat organic dairy (sadly its pasteurized). I looked really puffy and bloated as a vegetarian
Diabetes has nothing to do with eating vegan or not. It is a function of insulin metabolism and caloric density. Partly genetic but mainly diet and exercise for T2D. czcams.com/video/BcHHDmuyPv4/video.html
Also eating ice cream and cake doesn't make you a vegetarian.
@@megabikie5255 Did they say they ate that? Or did you just assume?
@@jasonturner6459 Did I say they said they ate that? Or did you assume?
Right. Uh huh. Sure.
Most powerful part: Nina offering her hand at the end when it was quite clear he did everything he could to avoid any form of direct contact. Wow what a babe!
Fantastic program, will pass it on to all of my friends, it can be a dramatic wake up call to some, thanks, greatly appreciated.
Yep. Saturated fat is actually good. But there is also a factor of fat soluble vitamins, that probably wasn't taken into account in these original studies. You take butter and it naturally comes with vitamins A, D, E, B12 and so on. With corn oil you get only corn oil as long as it's not artificially enriched with vitamins.
There is no such thing as corn oil.
Try squeezing an ear of corn and see if you get even a trace of oil on your hand.
@@alexk48 Of course. I hadn't thought of that. If you tread on an olive that has fallen off a tree it squeeze out the oil.
Nina is a pleasure to watch and listen to. This is top quality. Confusing though with Dr. Greger etc. claiming meat is bad.
Thanks for the interview. I find Nina interesting and Dr Hyman is always entertaining, while
being informative. He opens up and tells personal tidbits about himself and seems to
genuinely care.
Nina Teicholz is a national hero!!!
" Shortening, Yeah it shortens your life" LOL! That was awesome!
Biggest problems in science
1) Corellation is not causality
2) biased/externally funded studies
3) drawing conclusions out of unreliable data... 0.18% from unreliable data... that is like NOT EVEN an indication towards any point since the uncertanity of the statistics is in the xx percent range. Scientists should have way more schooling in statistics.
Joel Salatin has for over 50 years, farming with cattle, chickens, and swine. and grow it to other animals. Joel showed that sustainable farming and on which he created a sick farm to a healthy one.
From what Nestor has discovered/re-discovered with breath. Something you thought was so benign.
This is another ancient knowledge re-discovered/clarified.
Society is ever grateful for your work and bringing this to light.
BIG HUG.
Low fat sad diet, makes you sad and depressed and feel deprived all the time. I’ve done WW, eaten vegetarian, I know what makes me feel good. FAT! Having a mother with Alzheimer’s I know that all the cholesterol lowering meds can’t be good for us. Our brains need good fats! I feel better and happier eating good fats. Thankful people are waking up and realizing Ancel Keys had an agenda years ago.
Totally agree Cindy. Cholesterol is made by the liver for a reason, typical of western medicos who think that they are smarter than the human body and prescribe synthetically derived chemicals to "control" it (and make billions for their buddies in the drug profession, what a joke)
Alzheimer's patients are now being administered exogenous KETONES and MCT oil on a ketogenic diet (only by the enlightened specialists that is) and having major improvements in patient brain function. It staggers me that doctors and specialists are not given any training, and show very little interest in the role of diet in human disease (perhaps they might have to find another career if everyone ate better)
The SAD is not low fat. Cholesterol lowering medication may be necessary to reduce stroke. Be careful with fats as they almost always increase cholesterol. Almost all people who suffer strokes run high cholesterol > 200mg/dl combined with depressed HDL and higher blood pressure.
There's no such thing as good fats! All fats, whether it's saturated fat or veggie oils, they all poisons, toxic and you are kidding yourself!
"Low fat sad diet, makes you sad and depressed and feel deprived all the time..." What stupid rubbish! So when did you conduct this study of yours?! I think this Nina Teicholz person is whacko. She even seems a little off in her interviews and talks.
@@olgakim4848 Something your body absolutely cannot survive without is Fat, kinda hard to call it poison, however your body can survive without Carbs.
So much great information. Loved the book and this was a fantastic summary.
How can lay people help to get the guidelines changed?
Great interview of Nina, Mike! I loved and agreed on everything that was said 🙏🏼
Great book, so well researched. It should be required reading for every health care provider or anyone who values their health!
Seriously, I AM PISSED! Thankful that this info for me is finally validated.
careful when you trust your government
Love good, educated conversations like this! Great video!
Thank you Nina, that is something that needed to done for a long time. Just make sure it's your real evidence based science not some big school or company.
Its wonderful to listen to Dr Mark Hyman his food and recipes are inspirational. I hope to be able to get my Thyroid in better condition.
Definitely sending this information to both of my granddaughter's who are going into the medical profession . This was a great informational video.
Hopefully, they will use medical papers (or at least textbooks) rather than poorly-researched CZcams videos as their source of information.
I hope they didn't watch and did their own research
Yea, they'll be very impressed by what a woman with a masters degree in LATIN AMERICAN STUDIES has to say about diet.
@@profd65 Many of us have advanced our studies in fields wider than our original academic degrees, often with great success--especially if newer and more open thought is a factor, as well as diligent perseverance and a thirst for knowledge.
Years ago, when I worked as an RN in a hospital, I was fired for telling a heart patient that he would be better off using butter, instead of margarine. The science has been understood since the 1980s, however, commercial interests work hand in glove with hospital administrations.
I have a very good friend who is an unstable diabetic. Of course his dietitians have told him to eat.a high carb, low fat diet, even though we have known for many years that carbohydrates all break down to sugars. Now, he is on a slew of medications prescribed to fix the side effects of the other medications he is taking, yet, none of his so-called dietitians have even mentioned a ketogenic diet, except to tell him that it would not be safe.
Actually, the ketogenic diet was the standard medical treatment for many chronic conditions prior to the 1900's.
That scary moment when it HITS you.......Power&Wealth.......control the masses!!!
My father gave me a book written by an MD in 1928, The Human Body, he bought when he was a Biology major in college post WW2/GI Bill. He gave to me when I was 9 years old in 1960. In it, he said that medicine's greatest accomplishment up to that time was the diet for diabetics that was meat and vegetables. We had a severe diabetic in my family and so this stood out in the book for me. When insulin was discovered and made available 20 years later, the diabetic diets were chucked out the window. Medical Science had 3-4 decades and millions of patients and experience with a primarily meat diet with some vegetables that they knew worked. Medical doctors today are not doctors. Diabetes became a bigger problem in the 1890s with candy becoming more available. Doctors don't want to be told they have been 180 degrees wrong on every macronutrient, fat, protein and carbs. A good scientist is happy to find out where he is wrong. It explains their failures and frees them to alter their practice. Today's physicians are government/corporate whores and bureaucrats and only want the money and social status of being a doctor, both of which are about to experience a serious decline. They viciously defend the lies they have been taught with Soviet-style viciousness, which you experienced first hand. We have a big problem with heathens masquerading as educated/civil people. McCarthy was right in 1955, he just went about how he was doing his work, all wrong. God Bless for speaking the truth to your patient.
@@kayallen7603 Prior to the 1900's medical science was very, very primitive. It's just been recently that medicine is discovering what we eat affects our health. But somehow they knew about the ketogenic diet prior to 1900's you say? Did you just make this crap up?
The truth is butter isn't any better than margarine or other oils . Glad you were canned.
Thank you so much for this interview! Please keep providing us with the truth whatever it maybe.
AWESOME! So informative!!! Thank you both Nina & Dr Hyman!!
When we look at Ayurvedic medicine dating back centuries and look at their viewpoint, we will note that it isn't 'one diet fits all'. We are still trying to say this/that type of diet is right /wrong without clearly seeing that we can "individualize" nutrition in the same way that we are individualizing medicine. We have nutrigenomics to help support this process and many old wise traditional practices to pave the way. (Body type might factor in.) Studies are broad and helpful but they don't account for the individual. This being said, overall processed foods are not good for us!
Great interview! ... Nina's book is one of the most important in the world.
You guys are great. Thanks for your fantastic work and efforts. Major props and kudos.
Excellent guest and conversation. Thank you both for this.
The government created food pyramid is 180 degrees wrong. But people are wary and slow to change. I only wish I'd caught on to this information in my 30's......
Explain how it is wrong, it says get most of your calories from vegetables fruits and wholegrain unprocessed starch. Thats the centenarian diet.
@@TB1M1 vegetables, beans, and every plant crap is full of poison that impedes your absorption of zinc, calcium, iron, magnesium, potassium, and every other mineral useful for every metabolic process, especially the enzyme centered so, all of them. Then again give you 0 advantages in nutrition compared to any diet takin into consideration the vitamins plants give you are the B's and C which are much more accumulate and obtainable in animal sources. Every other nutrient you need, fat soluble vitamins, fats (03 and saturated), cholesterol, complete amino acid profile (especially tryptophan which is the precursor to serotonin an other important mood hormones) is lacking in all the first half of the food pyramid. So yeah, government advice is trash if I'm generous.
@@TB1M1 you're too far gone dude.
our government lied to us... shocker.
Listening to this makes me think that processed oils were the leading contributor to heart disease and should be outlawed PG should be sued for their lies - wonderful chat - really enjoyed thanks so much
Love you Nina, thankyou for unfolding the truth to us.
Hello dear Doctor and TV reporteters.
Thank you so much for your help and advice,
i do appreciate your job. I wish you peace and happness under the sky of prosperity. All the best. Take care and have a good time.
Your Student from Algeria.
What a great podcast! More please!
Well, it's a great source of misinformation.
Dinar AndFriends Explain
I don't understand why anyone would find this a 'great podcast'. The woman is talking complete nonsense. Surely you can see this?
Dinar AndFriends obviously YOU are misinformed! You have NOT cited ONE thing that she said that is wrong...
I didn't think you were interested in facts: most of the people who watch these things simply get aggressive if I post links to research.
There is no 'scientific debate' about the fact that saturated fats are harmful: the only reviews which show otherwise are either hopelessly badly designed or, more often, are funded by lobby groups.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28444290
I'm trying a low carb/high healthy fats diet now. Seems to be working better for me than the high starch/low carb diet espoused by the likes of Dr. Mcdougal etc. Mainly plant based fats though, avocado/olives/nuts/seeds etc plus wild caught oily fish. Both diets include lots of vegetables, and I'm basically just reducing the starches from the high starch/low fat diet and replacing them with healthy fats. I note some people like Rich Roll thrive on a plant based diet, but not everyone can tolerate a lot of starches. Try both and see what works for you.
By the way Dr Hyman, any chance of getting Rich Roll on your podcast ? That would be an interesting conversation.
Depends what you were eating. No two starches are the same. Also depends what your definition of success is, feeling better or better blood metrics.
True
I felt quite bloated wd starches
@@TB1M1 You can feel better and also have better "blood metrics" at the same time. This is why i've eaten Keto/whole foods/sugar free/gluten free/processed foods free for almost 3 yrs - my blood lipids are perfect now - and i'm 68 yrs.
i keep getting ads for pizza hut, deliveroo etc as i watch these videos and it feels so sinister now 🥶im 19 and the older i get, the less i trust “experts” and the ppl who run things. and that isn’t a healthy society at all
Awesome info....thank you so much Dr. Hyman and your guests!
When you look at the length of this video, it's likely you will have a tendency to just pass it by and look for something shorter. Huge mistake! There are so many very interesting facts in here that everyone should know that you owe it to yourself to watch it. And more important, take notes, then confront your physician when he or she says "fat is bad, you should follow the nutritional guidelines that are currently in place." Absolute bunk from your doctor. Get them up to speed or fire them is the best advice you could ever get.
Totally agree. It's a long video but there are little gems all thru this.
People who care will watch the whole thing. People who don’t care will watch the pretty doctors on the TV show. Those doctors are years behind on this issue!
Can you highlight all interesting facts in your comment?
great! My mom is in a nursing home and I wish she was getting a nourishing diet. This is a wonderful goal. I am aware of this info and find good food sources, but that doesn't help her. I hope this will change all over the world. Ending CAFO operations as discussed here, would be wonderful. Serving meals based on this science would be great but put some industry food and big pharma out of business and that is a huge hurdle. The more people become aware, the better. We need a food revolution, not paris climate accords! It would mean new businesses in a thriving and wholesome way.
Atkins was way ahead of his time. Demonized. Found a book of his at a used book sale over 30 years ago for .25cents. Best money I ever spent. I’ve been chastised by my PCPs for my labs which they didn’t really know how to interpret.
Excellent interview Nina is amazing and you too. Love this show.
Nina is an unsung American heroine!!!!😁👍🏽✌🏽
Thanks for a great interview, much appreciated! I've lost weight recently and my belly has gone down thanks to an organic keto/paleo eating plan and intermittent fasting! I have a mild form of MS and some of my negative symptoms have gone away which has been linked to the Candida and bugs in my gut biome. I'm also taking resistance starch now in filtered water twice a day and hoping to see better results from that along with my meditation, yoga and light weight training. I had been a fitness trainer in the 1990s when my MS was in remission for over 20 years and it's only recently it got a bit worst but I'm keeping it at bay drug free. I also take the necessary vitamins and herbs like Vit D3 with K2 , B Complex, Omega 3 fish oil Tumeric etc. My late husband died three years ago from Diabetes Type 2 even though he tried the diet by Dr. Fuhrman but he was also on 9 meds one of which was Metformin. This is the second time I'm hearing that Metformin causes fluid around the heart and my husband died from Congestive heart failure and pneumonia. So while Diabetes Type 2 puts one at a high risk for cardiac arrest I lay blame also on BIG PHARMA which also led a cousin's 13 year old son to commit suicide. He was suffering from severe depression and they put him on lethal prescription drugs and that pushed him over the edge and he went and hung himself. They sued and won a multi million dollar lawsuit, but no amount of money will bring their son back. I also lost a middle daughter to coma and brain injury from her self medicating her ADHD/Bi Polar and heroin use but then doctors put her on Oxycodin which is heroin based..How do allopathic doctors and BIG Pharma do that without checking a person's personal history..that's unconscionable imho. But I realize someone on rec drugs can always lie just to get prescription pain drugs as well. It's too late for me to sue and I don't have the time or money or energy to do that , but this is one of the reasons why I've gotten completely off any prescription drugs and don't take them any more ever! Like Deepak Chopra said and I said this before I even knew he said it...BIG PHARMA and pharmacists as well as just 'legalized drug pushers" mostly for GREED!
Wow!!! Awesome information. Thanks for sharing Nina & Mark.
Incredible story, incredible effort to bring it to light, incredible results already. Most reformers get locked up either literally or virtually.