Fan Boys are ruining games
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I remember when AAA devs main goal was to make games compelling.
In the old days games development was an art, there wasn't a massive amount of profit in it. But now the industry is run by greedy salesmen and media tycoons.
Harrison Ressler I ask my friend why should I buy escape from tarkov and he told me that the lighting was amazing and it's the most realistic shooter he ever played I still refuse to buy it
Aah yes those were the days. Its all backwards now AAA=crappy mobile games but the graphics is good so it has to be good.
When and in what universe?
Harrison Ressler the problem these days is , today gamers are to young to know that . The majority is kids who were born after the golden are of gaming doesn't know it better.
You know, I refused to play games on my phone or tablet because of how they'll rob you blind through micro transactions. But now they've figured out how to rob us blind on our consoles and PC's as well. I blame this on mobile gaming. They saw how they could grab more money from us through mobile gaming and I can just see them all putting their heads together at a meeting..."How can we make them pay more for all games?".
We're goddamned sheeple, I tell you. Let's just all bend over.
I refuse to pay more for a game that I've already bought. I flat out refuse! It's against everything I believe in and is in keeping with everything that pisses me off about today's consumer world that just keeps ripping us off at every turn. I don't mind paying top dollar for a great game but they can kiss my ass by trying to give me a nice golden shotgun if I preorder, or by giving me better outfits and/or gear if I pay them more money afterward.
Screw them, I should get all of that because I gave them 80 efn bucks already!
I agree with what you said. Back then bonus levels in games or extra hidden characters were unlockables that were given by grinding for it or being good at the game. Now, you have to pay up for a character or for levels because they can make money off it. This is especially true to fighting games that lock characters and you can't get the character by grinding, so you have to pay for it.
That's why I don't like mobile games. BUT there are some game where you just pay a price for the full game. After that no ads no micro transactions and they are quite cheap most if the time. I only find them really hard to find. All the games look the same (at least the icon) and you can't really see what is a micro transaction game and what is a good game. But through this channel I found games like mini metro on mobile. So there are some good games but unfortunately well hidden.
SnowWalker phone games are what started the trend with the masses then everyone followed suit
They've already bumped up the price of AAA gaming to be nearly $100 per game so it's just not worth it anymore.
no u
Fanboys are one of the main reasons I hate the gaming community. They just make this community seem immature, toxic, and brain dead. Which often makes me kind of hide the fact I'm a gamer to fellow peers. These people seriously are hurting gaming because they just let everything slide no matter how harmful it is in the long run. The micros and general lack of quality and innovation need to stop. That's just naming a few of the many issues right now going on it gaming. But with these fools it's never going to stop it will just continue to get worse. Grow a brain people and start punishing these undeserving Devs by closing your wallets.
It's not just gaming, the system fanboys are some of the worst, whether it's for PC, Xbox or Playstation. They come out with the dumbest shit you've ever read. I'm not picking on them but the current highlight is always from PS fanboys with the stupidest comment ever of "Xbox has no games." Really? Do they possess any brain cells? The PC and Xbox fanboys have done similar things too, but that's just a comment I see a lot.
+ultraboy223 Yes, the Xbox does lack exclusives and even though I think exclusives feed into fanboyism and often cause it, it is also something that is definitely holding the Xbox back this generation. But these fanboys rarely mention the term 'exclusive' until they are called out. They say "no games" and that's what makes their comment so stupid. Look at the big games, the ones that truly do well, they are mostly multi-plats.
I'm not taking sides either, I firmly believe that you should get whichever one suits you best and as long as you're happy, then great. If you don't have a PC and want Forza, get an Xbox, if you like some of the PS exclusives then get a PS. If you don't care, then get what your friends have.
If I wanted to buy a console this gen it wouldn't be a PS because I've never liked their controllers and I don't care for most of their exclusives. Too many hack/slash button mashers and blingy Japanese titles. The only truly good one I'd want is The Last Of Us and maybe Spider-Man if it doesn't turn into the QTE fest I think it will. Even putting that aside, I think they are both underpowered for where they should be but also aim too high by going for 4K. They barely got 1080p last gen, now they think they can get 4K? They aren't worth it. If I was getting one I'd probably get a Switch but I have no use for one right now.
I see a big German games review mag has updated their review system to deduct points when games include pay 2 win, release day dlc and micro transactions that effect gameplay in any way. Time everyone started this. Fanboys and whales can’t be reasoned with.
5 stages of fanboys
- denial
- denial
- denial
- denial
- denial
Such fanbois should be studied by neurologists because they are clearly missing some neurological function that a normal person has.
Also "Show Less" is included? ... microtransaction, less quality, gambling casino psychology mecahnics.... the sixth stage: "Show less".
Wait, I thought they were 6 stages..
-denial
-denial
-denial
-denial
-denial
-denial
@@grafmecx2641 holy shit bro thats a 3 year old comment
In the 30 plus years I've been playing video games, never have I been in a situation where time was an issue playing a game that I would have been tempted to pay for a shortcut, nor would I ever do that
CrualBirab same. If I'm bored playing a game, I stop playing it and never play it again. I never understood people saying things like "I played 3000 hours and I'm really bored" like dude I think you got your money's worth, now play something else.
of of the good thing about PCs is instead of paying to skip the grind, you can cheat to use the grind
The thing is, if you don't have enough time to play the game (through work or whatever) then don't play the game. It's that simple and it's how it works with everything else. Find a shorter game and save the other until you do have the time. For example, if you have enough time to watch a 1hr 30min movie, you don't put on a 3hr epic., you watch a 1hr 30min movie. Same should apply to gaming if you have a small amount of common sense.
i can have 10 hours to spare to watch a movie, the problem is that 9 hours of that movie is unintersting pile of crap which you cant wait to just get it over with. thats the whole point of micro transcations, and thats why they are being bought. if games werent boring grind (and consumers werent morons), no one would buy them. in my case i can either use cheats (instead of paying real money) or just delete the game.
+Nikolay Ivanov If it's that boring then you stop playing. Same goes for a movie. As you say though, these morons will keep playing and then pay to get through it faster or skip it. That's not playing the game. Why they do it is another thing, it's like they can't make the decision themselves and think paying more money is the answer. Games didn't use to be boring grinds (whether they were good or bad games is another thing) but the devs have deliberately made them that way to sell mtx's. They found a way in through mobile f2p gaming and now it's infected everything.
It reminds me of people who moan about how bad TV shows have got and how they 'hate' it but they keep watching week after week, season after season. I completely get loyalty to a show but if it gets to the hate or complete boredom stage then it's time to stop. It's almost like they want to torture themselves and will pay to do it.
Pay close attention to the comments on this one guys, you will see the total denial and delusion for yourselves :)
Worth A Buy Mack what is your opinion on the Bioshock franchise?
The early ones were different and fresh
Can I get heart macky daddy
Worth A Buy So the original Bioshock is worth a buy for PC? I've been considering buying it for a while now. I know next to nothing about the game, but from what I can tell, it looks like a good, classic and challenging linear FPS experience. Much like Half Life 2, or Fear.
Actually on that note, would you ever consider reviewing Fear? As in the original Fear game?
On a side note, I just wanted to say that I discovered your channel about 6 months ago and my eyes have genuinely been opened by your content. I was oblivious to a lot of this stuff in my gaming life.
Also, I seriously lose it with some of your videos. You are one of the funniest people on this site and you must make a lot of people's days better.
Good show old chap 👍
i am not trying to defend wot because they are a bit of a greedy company, its also one of my favorite games. the premium amo used to be gold only but for the past two years you can pay with in game money. yes you can buy in game money with real money so yes it is technically pay to get an advantage but its not very significant. some of the premium tanks in the game are for sure pay for an advantage
this video makes me so excited for your Star Citizen Review in 2050 when the game is released
lol 2100 more like
Implying the game will ever be fully released
Good things take time. The game has grown immensely in scope so it will take longer. I've been a backer since day one, and yes i'm mad the final game isn't out yet but i'm certain they will deliver. "A delayed game is eventually good, a rushed game is bad forever." Also you can play a reasonable amount of content right now.
That's a very optimistic date. I can't complain though, since I wasn't dumb enough to back the game.
By the time star citizen is released we will all be living 14 hours a day in full haptic vr and star citizen will be seen as this quaint retro toy rediscovered by the great great great great grandkid of this obscure game maker named chris roberts. The kid will have found the old build 600.02 of the game which was only 10% done in 2089, and for an elementary school project using modern 24th century tech is able to create an AI simulation of a dev team that finishes the full game in two days at max ai acceleration.
The kid will give it away as freeware to a rom site that is only used by snobby eccentric old people who are dorks about the nostalgia of the 21st century like we see the american revolution today.
They will try the game on their vr simulated desktop, much like playing a minimgame in fallout 4, play for a few minutes, find it quaint, and uninstall it to go back to playing minecraft...
Fan Boys are basically unpaid PR for these games. They're just tools being used as tools.
Mack 2018 - "Let's make games great again"
Alex Boitos +
But Escape to Jerkoff is my favourite game. I play with it at least twice a day!
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PAy to win?
manormachine100 what you're saying is escape from tarkov is ass?
Spray to win :D
He is not saying that its ass, its what the ass makes. Crap
*sees notification on phone* "holy sh*t, it's a rant! It's a rant you guys!" *dead sprints to computer with popcorn*
*AND a giant erection.*
lol I'm complimented but it's actually quite tiny
They are rampant in elite dangerous. You cant criticize anything, no matter how constructive you are, they will attack you. They love the grind, they hate the idea of any actual content. Its insane.
Yeah, ED spawned a special breed of fanboys.
Thousands of hours of gameplay, and seemingly, not ONCE did any one of them come out of their frame-shift stupor to ask "Why the hell am I doing this?"
or, "Why did I just buy a custom paint job that NO ONE can really see?"
Actually I don’t think so mate... All the gold rushes should be plenty of evidence of how many players in Elite absolutely hate the way the unrewarding grind gameplay is implemented in that game.
Nothing you Said Anders Lolle disproves what Swan and I said.
Just because there are a lot of players who hate the grind and complain about it, doesn't mean there isn't an ARMY of Fanboys who quite literally ATTACK anyone who criticizes these things. I get it and agree, there are a LOT of people who don't like the game, or criticize it and still play it and aren't fanboys etc. but that isn't the point, the point is the Fanboys in ED are some of the most fanatical insane fanboys I've ever seen.
I swear to Macks best bell that if you go into the Facebook groups for Elite, you will find a den of Fanboyism that is absolutely WRETCHED.
I totally accept and understand that people who like the game, don't want to deal with whiners etc.
But there is a big difference between people discussing ways to improve the game, VS people whining.
Fanboys can't see the difference.
I love ED and Star Citizen. But yoi want to see a shitflinting shitfest? Say one is better on the others page.
The rabid zealots come out of the woodwork.
Life was simpler when you could get Treasure Island Dizzy for 1.99 on cassette tape and not worry about pay to win bullshittery. Everyone who played it had one life and when you lost it you were dead. 😂
Steve simple not better imo
MasterJazz09 agreed, I do have fond memories of some of the old games but the new ones win hands down. 👍
Steve wow.. brings back memories 😂
Techmical all the dizzy games were epic! Jet set willy, everyone's a Wally, feud were some of my fond memories. Getting two cassette players and setting one on play and one on record in my sock drawer to copy a game. Then the commodore Amiga was my next pride and joy. ❤️👍👍
Immy Khan which was your favourite?
I've been saying this for years. Any bug report for some games gets you hostility, attacked by fans AND moderators alike. Hired 'community managers' are the worst example. I interviewed a company called Squad, the guys who made Kerbal Space Program. I noticed they bought and used a HEAP of code from the modding community and asked whether they hired the modders in question or just licensed the content. They laughed and said if they want money they can sue us, good luck, we're in Mexico. So I published the entire interview, including that quote. Next day I was banned everywhere Squad could ban me, even on Steam. I made an account to ask "Is this a mistake? What's going on?" instantly banned again. So I published a follow up to the story. Next thing they tweeted (whilst I was on a plane over the atlantic) that I had 'hacked' their servers and anyone impacted should tell me how angry they are, and included a link to my twitter and my name, etc. Shocking behaviour. And one of the reasons I stopped moonlighting as a 'pro gamer' and reviewer of content, after being a beta tester since the 80's for SEGA I was done. (Screen shots are on my Twitter, yet Squad fans even confronted with this still blindly love them.)
Could you give me some link, please?no offense
Just the other day I made a post on the Rainbow Six subreddit that criticized the game and a bunch of low-rank fanboys came in talking shit and defending it. I've been playing the game since day one and share the same frustrations as many other veterans of the game but now since siege finally has a large following fanboys are ruining the experience for everyone.
The Nacho Magic Wait what did you say? If you said some stoopid shit then yeah expect to get shit. No one cares if you're a veteran if you say some stooopid shit.
I'm assuming you think the new operators are too strong
To put it in simple terms. I said how the game is becoming more and more ridiculous as Ubisoft adds unrealistic operators and armor pieces into the game. Not to mention there’s a ton of exploits used by shit players, essentially making it so that they can compete with better skilled ones. When I was a diamond a couple months ago, I went 19-3 in a match and still lost the game because my team was trash. Absolutely disgraceful as a person whose played the game since it came out. I bought into this game thinking that it would be a tactical shooter but instead was given a pseudo-mil sim with hero abilities that were designed to attract players from casual games.
I love Rainbow Six Siege it's my most played shooter it's my most favorite shooter ever since Halo but I can understand the criticisms people have towards it because there is a lot of flaws that it has
Uncle Herbert there's one that literally has a wall hack
Two games I wanted to get very badly was Battlefront 2 & Shadow of War.
I passed of both of course but it took me years to learn my restraint like that.
Don't worry you didn't miss out. Also, if you really want to play them, just wait for a deep sale and get them for less than 15$.
Couldn't agree more Mack, I don't know how there are so many of these idiots coming out of the woodwork. I miss the good old days when game companies made their money by making the game they wanted to play themselves and make it as good as they possibly could. It's hard to fathom how far we've fallen since then.
I’m so glad I stumbled onto your page. I was starting to think I was the only one who understood what a good game was and how the industry is changing.
This applies so much to the people who defend mgs survive
Go to bed YongYea.
Dresden_stl dunno what that means.
He's a CZcamsr with a hate boner for Survive. I love the guy but he seems a bit too obsessed sometimes.
People defend that horrific buggy mess? $15 per save slot? Enough said...
I don't know anyone defending that game. Its not metal gear in any way except name so idk what theres a fan to be about
Wasn't sure if that was Mack cursing there at the end or if he was trying to talk to us in morse code
I translated the morse code and it said "Fuck all fanboys." ;-)
Well the stash size actually doesn't matter just so you know in terms of "winning". It's the Safe Box that lets you keep your gear after dying that matters and gives you a definitive advantage. I played standard till I finished every quest and was very high level and I never needed a bigger stash.
HOWEVER, if you want to horde gear, then the standard stash won't cut it. I just liquidated my gear into money, which is just as efficient for "winning", but some people enjoy have huge stashes of guns, which I totally understand.
So I would focus on those stupid Safe Boxes which totally defeat the theme of the game (death has big consequences). Focusing on the stash makes it clear you don't quite understand the game, so that's why I'm just letting you know.
I'm tired of fanboys blowing up sunshine up the developers ass in the Steam forums, and bashing everyone that dares to say something against their precious game.
There's more than just pay to win that fanboys defend. Fanboys will defend bad mechanics by tell you to "git gud".
I was PERMANENTLY BANNED on Escape From Tarkov forums because i posted your video in a polite manner... the game is filled with mad fanboys and who do you think are the admins and moderators there, silencing ppl on false claims ?! my god it is bad...
I have lost all hope in the devs because the game runs like total garbage on a good pc to this day from alpha to beta with fps loss...the modelers are top notch, have to say that, but nothing else.
I class myself as a casual gamer. My preference is console gaming and play on both PlayStation and Xbox. Over the last 25 years I’ve enjoyed all kinds of games and experiences and although I’ve spent thousands of pounds on my hobby I don’t smoke, drink or gamble so I have had expendable income to fund it.
The recent loot crate/pay to win implementation is not surprising but disappointing. Investors who don’t game don’t care about gaming. They have a short sighted view focusing solely on turning a quick profit. As you say, if gamers support these practises it will continue to become integral to game design.
Extract from a Reddit post:
"F2P revenue is generally made up of a tiny number of heavy spenders (whales), a small number of medium spenders (dolphins), and a large number of light spenders (minnows). For many F2P games, revenue from those few whales makes up the majority of revenue for a game." -> these are the people ruining the community; them, and shady developers/publishers who take advantage.
Gustavo Morales I'm against actual whale hunting, but uh.. If were hunting human whales, I think I can get behind that. Get your 50. Cals ready and aim and dont miss. Kill all!
You're a game company executive. Your job is to make sure that the company is profitable. There are people who are willing to part with absurd amounts of cash in exchange for in-game items. Hmmmmmm.....
Absolutely 100% spot on Lord Mack. Wish I can afford for you to go to these big gaming events and give these publishers a good roasting.
Weren't you fanboying about Kingdom Come Deliverance the other day despite being a buggy mess
You know who the Fanboys are? It was the kids that were too cool for school and have a following of friends that follow their every move. They decide to play a game that's s*** , they have to tell all their friends about it. All their friends think they're cool and they follow the king of their flock and they all get the s*** game to play together.
Atleast someone has the balls to speak up nicely done mack
Yeah god forbit you suggest any change or offer any form of criticism to their precious little games, a while back a mate of mine got this game kingdom come which he liked A LOT but apparently the saving system is bad so he posted on their forum a suggestion for a save&exit function, he was BOMBARDED by deathwishes and a shitstorm of profanity by these manchildren who act like toddlers when you try to take away their favourite toy.
Gaming is entertainment/escapism but some people are "escaping" too much.
judging by the like/dislike ratio I think the Tarkov fanboys finally understand what you're saying, took them a while but they got there.
I think they grew some hair on their nuts by now hopefully
I really love escape from tarkov, but as a standard edition owner i do agree that the stash size issue needs to be addressed. At my level, 33, it is almost impossible to keep a lot of my good items. I currently was lucky enough to get and item case from a friend so i can hold a bit more, but it still isn’t enough. If they fix this issue and the netcode problems, this game would be 1,000x better. But at its current state, i still do enjoy the intense gunplay because there is nothing else like it on the market.
Definition of fanbois is Star Citizen players
5 years and still no functionally playable game for 95% of the community and yet rabid fan boys defend CiG constant fuck ups, delays, bad coding, bad decision making and feature creep.
Feature creep kills games.
All that money went to their heads. If they just stuck to their original goal, they could have a game released - and then spent all the time after adding those features!
Don't forget P2W virtual land sales.
I think they screwed up when they started selling ships...
We should all start out with a shitty ships imo!
It's paying to skip content to go to other content which to me is crazy....
I want to be a space bum before I get that Andromeda. I want to feel I earnt it!
By selling off your assets you devalue them within the games meta...
greed. ship sales earned lots of cash. marketing is one thing cig is good at
Well, it is by far the most ambitious project in gaming, probably the most ambitious project in programming ever created. By a mile.
So I cut them some slack, especially since they do detailed updates on development several times every goddamn week.
Its just how it is, people can be dead fucking wrong and they'll still defend themselves.
You're right Mack. I've seen people defend Battlefront 2 EA's disgusting Pay-To-Win system because the game is 'fun'
I don't know how GTA/Rockstar have got off so easily with GTA Online too. Extortionate prices for content (cars, businesses, drug factorys), timed cooldowns, shit payouts, literally encourages you to spend real money
I've played every GTA game starting from the first GTA before it was 3D and I love the GTA series. GTA online is a pile of shite. It is designed as a microtransaction vehicle. I got bored of it in a couple of hours. My brother was a massive GTAIV MP junkie, he used to be in the top 10 global ranking. He also can't stand GTA Online. GTAV single player game; that's something else. I think I have finished the game like four times. I'm almost willing to not play another Rockstar game given Rockstar's direction of travel on GTA Online.
John Daly completely agree with you. Rather than be a fun game, it just feels like a job now
There are many different types of gamers. First, the casino gamer. Casino gamers are those who will never play a traditional console, PC, nor cellphone game but will spend many hours playing casino games. Most of our AAA CEO's and their shareholders fit in this category and so naturally they would like to turn all of our AAA titles into something similar. The stock market is a casino lol.
Second, the fanboy gamer. The vast majority of fanboys are kids. Kids, lack experience and therefore lack the necessary critical thinking skills to know any better.
Third, causal gamers. Causal gamers are those who will rarely if ever play a console or PC game but will play cellphone games on occasion in short burst. They are the ones who will buy the COD's, NBA2K's, etc. during the Christmas hype but is usually clueless when it comes to anything controversial going on in the industry.
Lastly, the traditional gamer. Traditional gamers are those who can still remember why we started playing video games in the first place. It was about the challenging game play. Story came second. It was about taking the time to become skilled at something. That gratification one would get once they was able to overcome and achieve something few others could. Like that special skin or achievement, that special ending, that special weapon, etc.. But for years now AAA publishers have been all about making games easier and easier giving gamers the option to pay up front to get all the best stuff instantly and therefore any real sense of accomplishment has been taken away despite what EA has been talking about.
What I hate more than fanboys are fanboys of fanboys!😝
Fanboys are very bad as well at understanding the difference between an opinion and a fact, if it's there opinion it becomes a fact. If someone else points out a criticism that is objectively a fact it is just their opinion, which must also be wrong.
Star Wars: The Old Republic forums are a wasteland of fan boys defending the disgusting lack of content BioWare has produced over the last several years. All they see is Star Wars and ignore how that game delivers a fraction of what others in the genre do. It’s just a micro transaction revenue generator for Anthem development.
Joliet Jerry it could have been so much more... T.T
The worst thing is people who say they hate the bull shit that is now in games but spend money buying the loot boxes and microtransactions or special editions
matthew bassett that's every youtuber out there. "It's just for the channel", yeah, right.
I play EFT and love it myself and unfortunately embarrassing people like the ones in the comments you're showing are ruining the community. Paying more for extra in game content or items that can be used against other players (i.e. starting sniper rifle etc) is defined as paying to win! Whether or not you can lose the items or be killed regardless of possessing them doesn't negate the possible advantage! Its so simple, this should not be a long discussion people! :/
Parallax as a non Tarkov fanboy, i couldn’t agree more
The sniper rifle you get in the EFD edition is trash.
The last minute or so was the pinnacle of CZcams content.
Fanboys don’t acknowledge that reviews are all about opinions. I love Destiny 2, a game you thumbed down, and that’s fine. I understand there are microtransactions and I don’t think they are good for the game, but I like the game. I don’t think your reviews are unfair at all, you thumb down games that I love and that’s okay. I don’t feel obliged to defend a game I like, even if I would see your criticisms as something I disagree with.
At the end of the day, you value games based off what you want in a game. People may disagree with your verdict and see the game completely differently, but they need to understand that’s okay. You don’t have to take a reviewers words (THE WORDS THE WORDS LETS READ) as gospel. It’s just your opinion.
I hope some fanboys see this.
It's not all opinions, though. FanBoys are going to straight up deny facts as well. Like the people who claim that 30 FPS is somehow better than 60, or that buying a stash that is 4 times the size of the standard one doesn't give you an objective advantage.
The sad thing is, people of differing opinions (and this is in the world at large nowadays) will be labled as hate-speech, etc. Logic and reason can't win arguments today. The world is going mental.
Well, it is definitely all just opinions since gamers themselves haven't agreed on certain things such as what pay to win actually stands for, so if you call your definition "facts" and someone else's supposed definition just an "opinion" then you are just being ignorant about other people's frame of reference and essentially your whole argument is rather pointless and one sided waste of breath. Like I support Mack's definition of pay to win, which is extreme but in my opinion fair, however some do not. Hence why Mack's reference to Escape from Tarkov gets so much backlash since some don't consider it pay to win at all. It just isn't part of their frame of reference. So really when it comes down to it, everyone's frame of reference is simply an opinion and not at all about facts.
Hi Mack, great to see you exposing the moneygrabbing scandals in games. Especially MMO and PVP shooters suffer from it. The abusive game communities out there will always be ignorent. When you show them they are being ripped off, they will hate you for it. Dont let it stop you Mack.
They laffin' at ye!
I have skipped many a game this year from your work, Keep it coming.
You make Tarkov players sound like junkies, their stash is the most important part of the game.
Its also not just a game fanboys support, I know a Bethesda fanboy, Bethesda can do no wrong, their buggy broken games they spew out with ugly character creation, why the hell can't Bethesda make a half decent avatar face, hair...but Bethesda fanboys exist and they will try to justify anything wrong in a Bethesda game.
Similarly there are console fanboys, Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo can do no wrong, they will tell you how a console is better than a PC which is a joke. You play a console or a PC because of personal preference or financial or whatever else gives reason to your choice but to say a console is more powerful than a PC is ludicrous, or that they prefer simple, no fuss consoles that are controlled by the parent company over the choice given to a PC because those choices are 1) Too complicated or 2) Take too much time that it eats into their real life. The fanboyism of Console players who misrepresent a PC's set up time for new games or the super complex nature of gaming on a PC in general over the simple no nonsense plug and play and pay Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo to use their net service when you've already paid your telecommunications supplier for the connection is for them, far simpler, more convenient and thus better than a PC....that is the ultimate fanboyism for my mind.
Obsidian fanboys are worse.
Thanks for this video Mack. Always nice to be reminded that I am of the few with some mental sanity left.
ESCAPE FROM TARKOV AHAHAHAHA
Lol So many people defending its micro trans back then XD
@@melodious2261 it was bad, youtubers with 100k subs replying to me defending tarkov pre order loot bonuses because it was popular to do so.
Developers aren’t always happy to add these features. Publishers must also be included, as they direct what is to be produced, created etc. They pay studios to make the projects, either externally or internally.
Rainbow six siege is frustrating with its microtratransactions
But none of it is pay to win so what does it matter
None of it makes any fucking sense. How come a top hat for Blackbeard costs equally as much renown as an operator? Why does a skin cost more than a character alone? Is it because of the first place animation? Why is it $100 for a bunch of packs that are exclusive to the "Outbreak" event when 80% of the contents in it are just the default outfits, but painted yellow? I have no problem paying $5 for a new guy every now and then, but the same price for a hat, or $15 for a skin that makes Blackbeard point to the ground? No thank you
Uncle Herbert yes, and people are still defending the game.
Yawn they are cosmetic items who cares plus if we are walking on that street of milking people look no further than your avatar , call of duty and the worst for this.
MrRocketman88 forget the cosmetics, the fact that you need to play 30 hours to get an operator is pay to win.
Plus call of duty ghost was the last game with no microtransactions, do the reasearch.
Some games I like to buy boosts and upgrades rather than playing it over and over again. I usually buy them when I play games the second, third, etc.
I agree it's bullshit but honestly, if you don't like it just don't buy the game. If this becomes the norm then don't buy any games if you don't like it. If it's bad enough that the developers aren't making enough profit anymore, then they'll change it. It's all a game of money, which is capitalism at its finest. I love capitalism, but the same freedoms that I have also apply to these private developers. Simply put it, don't like it don't buy it. I can live without it.
[90thIN] Seth Prather if you love capitalism you love iniquality campitalism makes the human a virus on this planet. Money is the virus that you live in today. Tell me one thing money does good to the human population. 1% is rich and getting richer and the 99 % are poor gg capitalist fuck
Zincas money allows your parents to buy food and toys for you, kid.
[90thIN] Seth Prather thta is the fucking point moron. Not all ppl are born with money. Maybe you did thats why you defend this system you are a pure blinded person that cant see the human being striped out of emotions like love. No money no love. How is that human. Again think outside of the box. The kid is telling you if you dont have money you wont have kids. Or if you have kids you wont be able to love them. No money no love. And you embrace capitalism. Communism is the same all politics are the same money talks louder then your fellings. Thats why we have ppl more rich then countries. Ppl die becouse they dont have money to eat and rich ppl throw food into the garbage. Did you know more then 40% of the food produced in the world goes to waste? Yet there is ppl with no food to eat. I just dont know how stupid or blind you are.
Perhaps you don't understand why there is a '1%'? Jordan Peterson explains this very clearly and it's quite fascinating the phenomenon. Successful people work hard - harder than you, clearly. Successful people then attract more success and this snowballs - creating a perceived inequality.
As an anology, play the board game Monopoly. Everyone starts equal, then as the game goes on, some players start getting more property and chances increase they'll get more money and property, especially as players start to become bankrupt - ultimately, it leads to one person owning everything - much like the 1%.
It sucks, sure. But also, everyone has an opportunity to better themselves and aim for success -- you just have to work hard for it.
doghous3 This poor soul isn't worth the arguing. It would be like making sense with a brick wall.
I agree. Fanboys are killing gaming. I once posted a criticism of a game on Steam and instantly had twenty people calling me names, digging into my Steam account to tell me I had shit taste, and so on. The developer even jumped in. It was ridiculous.
I'm fine with paying for extra content if it's giving me a significant amount of extra game play (such as an expansion). I'm even fine with games that want to nickel and dime players for cosmetic items (since I'll never give a single cent just so my character can have a golden gun or a fool hat), but this shit with preorders and loot crates and season passes and deluxe editions is just bullshit.
And the people that defend it and support it are bullshit as well. What they don't seem to realize is that the more they're willing to pay for pieces of a game, the more developers are going to keep selling games in pieces. Goddamn, it's gotten to the point where developers are trying to charge for an extra save slot!
These days, I refuse to buy most any AAA game unless it hits a sale price under $25. And even then, I usually wait until it's well under $20. Or else, I'll wait for the "Game of the Year" edition (whatever the fuck that means) which includes everything it should have at release.
Helping the gaming industry get better is really about being a responsible consumer. Thanks for the rant, Mack.
Millennials.
Centurions.
Generation is irrelevant.
Greedy idiots have always been around. And they will be 100 years from now too.
Can't wait for the 6 hour social media rant special by Mack featuring Rabbit.
Mack. It's 1:20 in the morning. I need to go to sleep! Damn it.
Lee Wakadia Same xD
2.35AM Like a true fanboy! O.o
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the tarakov loot thing sucks but lets be honest, its not the biggest problem with the game. I paid $40 and get 20frames at the lowest settings on my gaming laptop
I audibly laughed when you said "gaming laptop". Do your research and make a normal computer.
i said gaming laptop because i bought a laptop by hp: Omen which is advertised as a laptop meant to run games fairly well. Sorry that I don't have a house to put a computer in.
"gaming laptop" maybe for runescape and miniclip haha
I bought the Edge of Darkness edition for EFT to help support a game i though looks really good, but i can definitely agree that the small stash sizes are a clear disadvantage, and should be fixed. Even the large stash you get with EoD feels small in the late game, so i cant even imagine how frustrating a smaller stash would be.
Amen. Gaming is dead
although that is an opinion, even if the ratio is bad there are still more good games coming out than ever before
The tech is getting better but the companies are getting greedier
Buddah - Nah mate I have over 300 game in my steam library. None of them have p2w microtransactions. I'm having a blast. Gaming is alive and kicking. It's the AAA publishers that want games as a service that are the problem. Just avoid them.
Gaming is more mainstream and there are more games being made everyday than in the 90's. The 90's had some good games but they were more simplistic than the ones that can be made today. So, gaming is not dead but you just miss the good old times which i can totally relate to in some ways.
Joe Seabreeze - well I thank you for the compliment. I'm actually 41. In any case, sure 1996 - 2002 was arguably better for gaming but if you look at the size of the market from a commercial perspective, gaming is bigger than it has ever been and there are more gamers now than ever. I think there is some measure of rose tinted glasses going on. There were a lot of crap games too; back in the day. The AAA publishers have sure got greedier but then again they are owned by shareholders so their outlook is indistinguishable from that of McDonalds or BP, i.e. big corporate entities. As an example of good games out recently (not published by big AAA publishers), look no further than Pillars of Eternity 2 and Divinity Original Sin 2, what about Kingdom Come? Tbh those three games alone will keep you busy for ages. I have so many unfinished games in my Steam library that its not even funny. I plan to finish them all at some point, some day.
2000 to 2010 was my personal golden decade of gaming. Gaming has entered the mainstream stage now and it has brought many negative traits with it. Many other industries have gone through this stage and we have seen similar effects. Unfortunately as long as the consumer is dumb enough it is hopeless trying to save the industry. Theres no point complaining anymore let the captalist system play out and let people find out the end game of what they have done now. It's pointless trying to educate them now they are either arrogant or desperately self justifying there purchases/addiction.
Fanboys 🤔 Witcher 3 😂😂😂
Yeah witcher 3 was and still is well over hyped. It was trash when I tried playing it a year ago, the tutorial sucked, the combat sucked, the beginning of the game was just awful. So bad ill never touch it again
Codian Yes it was Mack's said it all untill the fanboys came. 😑
No one cares about your awful opinion Codian, the fact is The Witcher 3 has an amazing amount of content and bang for your dollar. This video isn't about your shit taste, it's about game publishers ripping us for all we're worth.
Another W3 fanboy triggered. As Mack has emphasized, it is just a good game, not an amazing RPG.
no one cares about you either. Witcher series is trash. You can't add some novel with trash level game engine and 0 effort in testing to improve it. Hair physics are more important, right?
13:35 Hahaha! That ending was perfect! You'd think it was mostly the new generation of gamers who have been force fed this stuff all their gaming lives, but I've seen this mentality in people who've been playing games for as long as me and I honestly just don't understand what has gone wrong. Great video as always bud.
you talk about escape from tarkov, you didnt play minute of it...and redit posts you show, are outdated, trading material changed! you are just ranting without even any gameplay experience...
you talk about world of tanks premium ammo, you didn't even master the game or even got good at it..if you did you would know premium ammo means shit if you are bad at game..its not godlike ammo where you aim and shoot and kill everything...there is term for players like you in game..they are called red tomatoes
owned so many of players with that mindset, that premium will make you good..haha joke
Found a fanboy already^
but, the thing is premium ammo can be bought by every player there is in game...and noo if you play like noob it wont give you any advantage at all..if he was master of game, he wouldnt even speek this bullshit out..he is just salty boy, stuck in age of wow vanilla..
True story.
A client of my PC repair business paid me to complete several levels in his Quantum of Solace game.
P2W LIKE A BOSS.
Well Said. I hate people that are so blind to obvious issues in games and will defend bullshit Micro Transactions to the end.
Watching after Cyberpunk's release. Seriously, so many fucking fanboys defending that game's many bugs and performance problems.
While I was pretty excited about the game, at the same time I kind of secretly hoped it would fail just to spite the CDPR fanboys. Looks like I got my wish. Hopefully these fanboys will soon realize that their precious CDPR isn't the "perfect" studio they thought they were.
I feel you soo much i honestly hate thoses fanboys soo much. they hoenstly make me want to give up on gaming cus i cant just ignore something without being called negative / toxic. litraly 2 years they all went on about that trash game before we even knew anything about it and all the warning signs where there but they still to this day deffend it. hell even someone who i thought was my best m8 stopped talking to me because of that trash game "wish i was jokeing there but im not"
Honestly its like a really dumb cult but rather than being part of something great they just deffend a scummy companie that owes them nothing and would just as easly take more money off them for dlc without fixing it.
Unfortunately you are right in what you are saying, I remember when playing games was fun, but it's now more about who is better and who is the best etc etc. Competitive games are really pushing this pay to win agenda, and publishers are taking advantage of the if i`m winning = i'm having fun mentality. I`m really sad to see the gaming industry changing and I don't see how it is going to get any better.
When I first got this game there were no servers in Australia and New Zealand. They introduced them but got a really poor service and the game was unplayable. Anyone that complained got a temp ban. I got a 3 month ban from the forums because I made a post showing my temp ban for asking the devs a "controversial" question. I love EFT, the pay to win didnt seem bad 4-6 months ago as the had promised that stash size feature that we all waited for and it never came. I have put the game down for now.....
All I can say well said my man 💯 % correct I hate pay for advantage
That's why I play online games 2 years after. By then the hype die off and fan boys have moved on! Am just starting Battleborn and it's awesome and the community is very good gamers stayed.
Still one of the best game content makers out there, i can count on Mack for a good discussion,laugh or even a great review. Keep pushing truth mack the gaming community needs it
I won't defend a game unless it deserves it.
I've loved your videos and find them so interesting. I'm 17 and have been slowly rebuying old PS2 and PS3 games you and other channels similar (check out Mark Brown, Game Makers Toolkit) to you suggest and I love it. Ive found some of my favorite games through this, so a huge huge thankyou.
I think its not video games that suck today though its just business. Because its not just old games, its old music and old films (only a matter of time before its books).
I love that your British, like me, your accent just adds to your reviews and *no offence* makes your frustration funnier
NEVER THE LESS THANKYOU. WE NEED MORE CRITICS LIKE YOU IN THE SPOTLIGHT
Cyberpunk fanboys are honestly making me want to give up gaming. im soo sick of people who defend companies like they owe them something. opinions are one thing but you just arnt aloud to not like anything with those kinds of people without them saying you are toxic no matter how true your opinion is. honestly i miss the days when we didnt have reviews and youtube videos about upcoming games, we just sore what was on the shelf in our local game and brought what looked cool now theres all this contravercy and you cant like / not like something without some a hole coming along and calling you dumb or toxic for doing so.
I agree, I was suckered and pre ordered. There's talk of the DLC being not free, delayed etc. Why are they even working on a DLC when the base game isn't even finished? Yet theres thousands of spergs defending these broken products they probably bought from their mothers credit card. "AAA" Games are a joke and have been for several years.
Sadly i have a friend like that, not a fanboy but something along the line, when he finds a game that he likes he start asking us to buy it too to play together, then he proceed to try it and if the game doesnt give him what he want fast or become slightly hard/grindy you can be 100% sure that hes going to look for stuff to make it easier, get what he wants and then leave the game in a week (fucking everybody up)
It's just like politics. Gaming has become just as tribal as politics and most gamers are like, don't talk about that. Yet they act just like it but the only difference. Games don't affect anyone life like politics. It's all pointless meaningless nonsense.
Personally boring frustrating game play makes me want to stop playing, not spend more money on shit. So I really don't get peoples mentality with this.
This business model is everywhere.
Gone are the days when you paid for an item and that was it.
Now you have to buy the Subscription and then upgrade that to a Premium Subscription and then buy the Upgrade for the Upgrade and replace that with Premium Upgrade and so fucking on and on...
In 2017, Blizzard earned 4 BILLION DOLLARS from microtransactions alone. What message is that sending to all game creators and publishers? It's unstoppable at this point, all you can do is focus on indies if you don't want to pay several thousand dollars per "game".
in AC orgins you have to buy their currency you cannot use in game currency to buy anything whatsoever
I love your channel Mack. I just searched and you have no Skyrim or Fallout 3 WAB! WTF!? I know you will thumbs up both but I love hearing your take. Please read the words!
lol. I mean, I'm a huge fan of certain games yet I often manage to name more negative things about them then positive ones. If people are too blind to face the truth, they should not be listened to XD
Nice video man
This is why I enjoy indie games so much more. I haven't played AAA games in years.
I compare fan boys to someone in a long term abusive relationship. It doesn't matter how hard they get beaten, or how many times, they refuse to leave as they're so in love with their abuser. Ignorance is bliss to these fan boys.
In short: Fanboys ruining games because: They are satisfied with every bullshit, often times they´re blind and dont have any standards, defending game mechanics, graphics, bad ports and micro transactions. Honestly i think alot of fanboys dont know better games. I dont want to offend anybody but lets say...alot of fanboys are kids..they grown up with alot of bad games but they dont know any better. Thats what i think and truly believe. If the devs only get good reputation most of the time..well why should they change anything? They make their money even through questionable methods. Win Win for the Devs as long as a huge part of gamers dont wake up.
Gaming is so crap nowadays I just play older games and even mod some of them. Better than the slop being excreted by AAA developers. By this point I’ve set my expectations so low then when something genuinely good comes around it’s a pleasant surprise. Better way to live really, less likely to be disappointed.
Haven't you discussed this before(Full video)?
People don't want to work for anything anymore in games. It makes me very sad. That's why I absolutely love kingdom come deliverance.
I personally don't care about 'pay to win' or 'pay to skip' systems in single player games like far cry 5 or assassins creed. If a game got to the point where it was ridiculously boring unless I had to pay, I simply wouldn't buy it.
But how would you know that before buying it?
I do agree with you that the paying to get a bigger stash size is complete BS. The reason that the devs are not programming the ability to get a bigger stash size right now is because there are WAY bigger problems such as desync making the game sometimes unplayable. Also it is a pretty small dev team. But when the open beta comes out, the ability to get a bigger stash size will be in the game.
Usually Armors in RPGs have STATS and differences that tell them appart. In Assassin`s Creed :Origins, Armors have been REDUCED to COSMETIC items, their stats removed... Thus dumbing down the game and putting them for sale in loot boxes (instead of giving them as rewards for quests or found in-game)....I WISH I would have KNOWN this fact, Because if I would have known, I would NOT have bought the game. These microtransactions need to STOP....Even if they are cosmetic or not, they hurt the game!
What KILLS me every time is how people LOSE THEIR MINDS over CGI trailers at E3 every single year! Show me GAME-PLAY not pretty movies!
12:20 yep. I don't want a game i like, to end. I have a ton of games I haven't finished on purpose, I just start a new character and try to make different outcomes or different spec builds, and never finish it. I think the Mass Effect 3 ending burned me too badly and I am afraid of seeing a travesty like that again in agame I love. But I just keep replaying from scratch and doing things a little differently, especially in a game like Kingdom Come: Deliverance! OMG The banter between lord Hanush and the priest
Priest -"You can't make a knight out of a peasant!'
Hanush - "Yeah well, God made a priest out of a pig!"
Gets me every single time GOTY 10/10. I don't see any game beating the banter in KC:D between the lords. Seriously KC:D is so good. I needed characters like that in my life with Game of Thrones being off this season.
Fanboys exist under the umbrella of apologists. That particular umbrella is one of my least favorites.
I think i will make a game called "Mack's Fuego" where you have to pay to level up and i use the loot system from Destiny ONE, while it is also being a 3RD PERSON SHOOTER with a COD singleplayer campaign. Perfect game for Mac.
I think the only way forward is to legally limit the profit a game published for under 18 can make.
If it makes more it should be given to the government.
This should push the greedy corporate inverters that have taken over the gaming industry(to exploit and abuse children) out.
Because lets be honest, we would not be in this situation if it wasn't for children under 18 years of age who are too immature to understand how much they are being screwed.
Hi Mack. Is the Thief remake worth a buy?