As a newb the first time I went to a charger it was a nightmare. A video of a newb going to a charger to fill up for the 1st time would be good (we just charge from home). 1st the machine did not seem to work as it didn't seem to turn on, then I had to use a phone to do some of it, then it wanted me to subscribe or not, then there were several different charges (this was a council run car park with a station provide by Source London) in the end I just gave up and have never tried again since. A video from start to finish dedicated to newbs getting electric for the 1st time might help people.
Plenty have done these videos, but of course the experience is slightly different with every network and brand of charger. But generally now, you just tap your credit card on the contactless payment panel, select what plug you want to use (CCS or Chademo) and plug it into your car. Its as easy as that. It didn't used to be with phone apps, but those days have mostly gone.
@@GoGreenAutos For me it would not let me just pay and fill. ie from their website "The PAYG option enables you to use Source London charge points immediately without subscribing to any membership and without using a membership card. You will simply need a valid debit/credit card and a MOBILE PHONE WITH INTERNET ACCESS." it was not plug-in and pay. So I take it this is not the usual way at other charging points?
Three phase 22kw charging was a major factor for me buying Mégane. Often cheaper than rapid charger rates and ideal for a shopping trip/cinema visit etc.
This video is absolutely excellent! There are unfortunately quite some parameters to understand and you describe them so we'll. It took me a year to understand what kind of AC-cable that was suitable for my car. This video should go viral!!!
Excellent comprehensive tutorial! The first time I plugged my Masterplug granny charger into the port (located where the petrol cap would normally be on my Fiat), it felt odd because the process had more in common with recharging a cordless vacuum cleaner. Even using the wall charger that was installed nearly two years ago is still a novelty to me, and something of a pleasure compared with queuing at a petrol station!
Thank you and good to hear. Charging an EV is so easy (and clean!) which is something that non-EV drivers don't appreciate. Their assumptions are that its worst.
Very comprehensive. I was caught out when I had my 1st EV (with existing wall charger) and found the charger was a type 1 and EV was type 2 😱. Solved with an good quality adapter though 🙂
Thank you so much for clarifying which cable end goes where (at 3:16)! Hallelujah! So many 'experts' say everything but the most important things: which end goes where and in which order (should I plug the car first or the charging post). Again, thank you so much!😎
All Vag group are 3 phase. ID3 etc, the newer Kia ranges, charge at 11kw ac and here in Scotland most of the ChargePlace Scotland offer 7, 11 and 22 kw fast chargers and the 50Kw Rapids have up to 43kw AC tethered plugs.
Great video very informative, also you will only get cheap rate electricity if you have a 2 rate meter and have that as part of your contract with your supplier
I find my type2 supplied with my Mégane is too tight on the socket of my dads Zoe (2016) but his lead works on both. have you seen this and do you have any Zoe lead recommendations
Check for a rubber o-ring and make sure its not twisted up. This can happen on the type1 plugs as they age and the o-ring gets twisted up and comes out of its mounting place. The type2 plug doesn't have a o-ring (well most don't) but check to see if there's one in the socket on the car.
I am looking to fit a home charger. But don't want to ruin the esthetic look of the front of my house. The option I have is to have it fitted round near my electric connection to the house about 10+ metres away from the parking. Is there anything I need to consider when considering this option as in, are there type 2 cables that would stretch that far to charge the vehicle and also will the length of cable effect the rate of charge?
I've experienced some vehicles that don't like long charge cables. I used to have a 10 mtr cable and some vehicles just wont charge when using it. You'll be far better off putting the charger near the vehicles. There are chargers which have different face plates so you can make it match your house colour scheme. There's also smaller chargers. Many go with the Anderson (andersen-ev.com/) charges where the look or colour matching is important. Or the other option is to put it on a post away from the house, at the side of your drive.
@@GoGreenAutos that's interesting and I did wonder if that would be an issue as I read it can be. It's not the charger that is the issue it's more the cabling running from the electrical box to where the charger can be situated it needs to up and around the front door which isn't ideal
I want to fit a 7kw home charger but I measured the distance to my car and it's 15 metres. Is that too far to charge effectively? It will be a type two for an ioniq
You can get 15, 20 or even 30 metre type2 cables. However, I have experienced issues with some EVs when using long charge cables. Not tried on the Ioniq though. Can you not get the charger any closer? i.e. using a post to mount the charger closer to the parked car. That's what I've done myself.
@@GoGreenAutos thank you for the reply I appreciate it. I wish I could get it closer but my car is parked in a council owned car park so it's not really feasible to put a post mounted charger there, I'm not technically supposed to charge at home there but I would do it using a anti trip cover as the lead would only run across one pavement which is rarely used by pedestrians. Tbh it's the only stumbling block to going ev for me but I think I can make it work. Maybe it would be with speaking to Hyundai?
11:30 Is running a portable charger to an indoor socket allowed in the UK? In my location (Norway) it is strictly forbidden to plug any outdoor appliance (including an EV charger) into an inside socket, as indoor sockets does not have as strict ground fault monitoring as an outdoor socket, which is required when operating anything exposed to rain (in case of a damaged cable etc)
Im getting a new kangoo but I will be charging it with a granny cable over 15 metres for a couple of times a week for about 100 miles in total and once a week at the supermarket for a full charge. Would thus be a safe and viable option
You can, but do make sure the socket you are using is sound and the wires are done up tightly at the rear as using a granny cable for many many hours will highlight any loose connections with bad results. See www.gogreenautos.co.uk/using-portable-chargers You're much better off getting a proper wall charger installed and even though it will cost ~£1,000, you can then offset the cost by using a cheap rate overnight tariff. See czcams.com/users/shorts5bm6pp80x3U?si=fMbzIjOP7a_iL9Mq
@@GoGreenAutos thank you for your reply, much appreciated. I did read in the link that it's best not charged from a socket run from a spur, unfortunately that's what mine will be. I can't actually have a proper ev charger because of my parking situation. I'm in a new build and the socket for the ev has just been installed by an electrician so hopefully it should be OK. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated.
@@carlodellamico Use a granny cable then, but one which has selectable amperage and reduce it to 8 amps. Something like this czcams.com/video/8eYrX14vdCk/video.htmlsi=Y4-GZ_WttgWi02cf
my family and friends would never buy electric cars, No electric car is worth paying more than £3000 because it takes 30 minutes to rapid charge causing inconvenience time consuming and battery damages degrades faster when rapid charging its expensive to repair ev car when it becomes faulty and out of warranty in winter ev uses alot of battery for heating same with summer with air con with cost of living people now have very less money to buy It’s Not full self driving I would Not pay any more than £2000 for your car the battery degrades every year then car become useless and more inconvenience as it degrades electric cars Not worth it’s value anymore
This all is load of bull.. In Finland we had -39°C last winter and never get nothing to worry about with ev. Cabin was always warm and windows frost free. Costs of driving was adout 8€/100km. I charge my car while i'm working or at night while sleeping so no hasle there. Service costs. First service at 2year or 40.000km costs 150€ next one 4years or 80.000km and costs 350€. next on is 6years or 120.000km and 150€. Car costs about 40.000€ total with all bels and whisles. That makes about 310€/month + electrics about 60€. So can you tell me what kind of petrol car you can beat that? Even used one.
Thanks from new Aussie EV owner, this is very helpful.
Thank you. Glad it was useful.
As a newb the first time I went to a charger it was a nightmare. A video of a newb going to a charger to fill up for the 1st time would be good (we just charge from home). 1st the machine did not seem to work as it didn't seem to turn on, then I had to use a phone to do some of it, then it wanted me to subscribe or not, then there were several different charges (this was a council run car park with a station provide by Source London) in the end I just gave up and have never tried again since.
A video from start to finish dedicated to newbs getting electric for the 1st time might help people.
Plenty have done these videos, but of course the experience is slightly different with every network and brand of charger. But generally now, you just tap your credit card on the contactless payment panel, select what plug you want to use (CCS or Chademo) and plug it into your car. Its as easy as that.
It didn't used to be with phone apps, but those days have mostly gone.
@@GoGreenAutos For me it would not let me just pay and fill. ie from their website "The PAYG option enables you to use Source London charge points immediately without subscribing to any membership and without using a membership card. You will simply need a valid debit/credit card and a MOBILE PHONE WITH INTERNET ACCESS." it was not plug-in and pay. So I take it this is not the usual way at other charging points?
Three phase 22kw charging was a major factor for me buying Mégane. Often cheaper than rapid charger rates and ideal for a shopping trip/cinema visit etc.
Absolutely, but its just a shame 3-phase AC isn't more common in the UK.
great. very helpful. much appreciated.
Glad to hear it
This video is absolutely excellent! There are unfortunately quite some parameters to understand and you describe them so we'll. It took me a year to understand what kind of AC-cable that was suitable for my car. This video should go viral!!!
Thank you very much.
Excellent comprehensive tutorial!
The first time I plugged my Masterplug granny charger into the port (located where the petrol cap would normally be on my Fiat), it felt odd because the process had more in common with recharging a cordless vacuum cleaner. Even using the wall charger that was installed nearly two years ago is still a novelty to me, and something of a pleasure compared with queuing at a petrol station!
Thank you and good to hear. Charging an EV is so easy (and clean!) which is something that non-EV drivers don't appreciate. Their assumptions are that its worst.
I haven't splashed any electrons on the forecourt yet!@@GoGreenAutos
Very comprehensive. I was caught out when I had my 1st EV (with existing wall charger) and found the charger was a type 1 and EV was type 2 😱. Solved with an good quality adapter though 🙂
For futureproofing I'd advise anyone getting an EV with Type 1 to get Type 2 cables and a decent Type 1 to Type 2 adapter.
Thank you so much for clarifying which cable end goes where (at 3:16)! Hallelujah! So many 'experts' say everything but the most important things: which end goes where and in which order (should I plug the car first or the charging post). Again, thank you so much!😎
Glad you found the video helpful.
All Vag group are 3 phase. ID3 etc, the newer Kia ranges, charge at 11kw ac and here in Scotland most of the ChargePlace Scotland offer 7, 11 and 22 kw fast chargers and the 50Kw Rapids have up to 43kw AC tethered plugs.
Great video very informative, also you will only get cheap rate electricity if you have a 2 rate meter and have that as part of your contract with your supplier
Thanks.
As for the meters, you just need a smart meter as they do half hour readings.
I find my type2 supplied with my Mégane is too tight on the socket of my dads Zoe (2016) but his lead works on both. have you seen this and do you have any Zoe lead recommendations
Check for a rubber o-ring and make sure its not twisted up. This can happen on the type1 plugs as they age and the o-ring gets twisted up and comes out of its mounting place. The type2 plug doesn't have a o-ring (well most don't) but check to see if there's one in the socket on the car.
I am looking to fit a home charger. But don't want to ruin the esthetic look of the front of my house. The option I have is to have it fitted round near my electric connection to the house about 10+ metres away from the parking. Is there anything I need to consider when considering this option as in, are there type 2 cables that would stretch that far to charge the vehicle and also will the length of cable effect the rate of charge?
I've experienced some vehicles that don't like long charge cables. I used to have a 10 mtr cable and some vehicles just wont charge when using it.
You'll be far better off putting the charger near the vehicles. There are chargers which have different face plates so you can make it match your house colour scheme. There's also smaller chargers. Many go with the Anderson (andersen-ev.com/) charges where the look or colour matching is important. Or the other option is to put it on a post away from the house, at the side of your drive.
@@GoGreenAutos that's interesting and I did wonder if that would be an issue as I read it can be. It's not the charger that is the issue it's more the cabling running from the electrical box to where the charger can be situated it needs to up and around the front door which isn't ideal
I want to fit a 7kw home charger but I measured the distance to my car and it's 15 metres. Is that too far to charge effectively? It will be a type two for an ioniq
You can get 15, 20 or even 30 metre type2 cables. However, I have experienced issues with some EVs when using long charge cables. Not tried on the Ioniq though.
Can you not get the charger any closer? i.e. using a post to mount the charger closer to the parked car. That's what I've done myself.
@@GoGreenAutos thank you for the reply I appreciate it. I wish I could get it closer but my car is parked in a council owned car park so it's not really feasible to put a post mounted charger there, I'm not technically supposed to charge at home there but I would do it using a anti trip cover as the lead would only run across one pavement which is rarely used by pedestrians. Tbh it's the only stumbling block to going ev for me but I think I can make it work.
Maybe it would be with speaking to Hyundai?
@@GoGreenAutos what has been your experience with longer cables? Slower charging? No charging at all? What length and vehicle?
11:30 Is running a portable charger to an indoor socket allowed in the UK? In my location (Norway) it is strictly forbidden to plug any outdoor appliance (including an EV charger) into an inside socket, as indoor sockets does not have as strict ground fault monitoring as an outdoor socket, which is required when operating anything exposed to rain (in case of a damaged cable etc)
Yes it is, in the UK.
Im getting a new kangoo but I will be charging it with a granny cable over 15 metres for a couple of times a week for about 100 miles in total and once a week at the supermarket for a full charge. Would thus be a safe and viable option
You can, but do make sure the socket you are using is sound and the wires are done up tightly at the rear as using a granny cable for many many hours will highlight any loose connections with bad results. See www.gogreenautos.co.uk/using-portable-chargers
You're much better off getting a proper wall charger installed and even though it will cost ~£1,000, you can then offset the cost by using a cheap rate overnight tariff. See czcams.com/users/shorts5bm6pp80x3U?si=fMbzIjOP7a_iL9Mq
@@GoGreenAutos thank you for your reply, much appreciated. I did read in the link that it's best not charged from a socket run from a spur, unfortunately that's what mine will be. I can't actually have a proper ev charger because of my parking situation. I'm in a new build and the socket for the ev has just been installed by an electrician so hopefully it should be OK. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated.
@@carlodellamico Use a granny cable then, but one which has selectable amperage and reduce it to 8 amps. Something like this czcams.com/video/8eYrX14vdCk/video.htmlsi=Y4-GZ_WttgWi02cf
@@GoGreenAutos thank you for your advice, much appreciated
Or your house may have already got one
my family and friends would never buy electric cars, No electric car is worth paying more than £3000 because it takes 30 minutes to rapid charge causing inconvenience time consuming and battery damages degrades faster when rapid charging
its expensive to repair ev car when it becomes faulty and out of warranty
in winter ev uses alot of battery for heating same with summer with air con
with cost of living people now have very less money to buy
It’s Not full self driving
I would Not pay any more than £2000 for your car
the battery degrades every year then car become useless and more inconvenience as it degrades
electric cars Not worth it’s value anymore
This all is load of bull.. In Finland we had -39°C last winter and never get nothing to worry about with ev. Cabin was always warm and windows frost free. Costs of driving was adout 8€/100km.
I charge my car while i'm working or at night while sleeping so no hasle there. Service costs. First service at 2year or 40.000km costs 150€ next one 4years or 80.000km and costs 350€. next on is 6years or 120.000km and 150€.
Car costs about 40.000€ total with all bels and whisles. That makes about 310€/month + electrics about 60€.
So can you tell me what kind of petrol car you can beat that? Even used one.
Thanks
Glad you found the video useful